[RBW] Re: I raced my Riv.

2014-06-07 Thread 'pb' via RBW Owners Bunch


On Monday, June 2, 2014 7:21:13 PM UTC-7, Tony McG wrote:

 I ...really love passing guys half my age on carbon fiber 'cross bikes...


Tony, could you explain why you love that?  Thanks.   

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Re: [RBW] Re: I raced my Riv.

2014-06-07 Thread Chris Chen
Maybe because it makes him feel alive? Oh I don't know.


On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 11:13 PM, 'pb' via RBW Owners Bunch 
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 On Monday, June 2, 2014 7:21:13 PM UTC-7, Tony McG wrote:

 I ...really love passing guys half my age on carbon fiber 'cross bikes...


 Tony, could you explain why you love that?  Thanks.

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Re: [RBW] Re: I raced my Riv.

2014-06-06 Thread Wildcat96
The gravel in Flint Hills of Kansas is notorious for shredding tires.  Its not 
unusual for people to get 6 flats during the race.  Consider that the Native 
Americans used the flint for their arrowheads.  Just google Dirty Kanza tire 
choice sometime if you are up for some light reading...

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[RBW] Re: I raced my Riv.

2014-06-06 Thread Wildcat96
Tony, I hear you about the tunnel vision.  On the car ride along the route back 
to Emporia, I realized I had passed several herds of cattle and not even 
noticed them.  Maybe coming from a rural background I'm just used to being 
around cattle.  The Sam handled the rough roads beautifully!  I've even taken 
it out on some smoother single track and am surprised at how capable it is.  I 
actually swapped out the albatross bars for noodle drop bars two days before 
the race.  IMHO, the alba bars are hands down the most comfortable bars I've 
ever ridden, but it's hard to get a good aero position and I like the brakes 
out front when riding down the rough and lose hills.  They seemed to be a 
better choice for the DK especially if the winds would have been stronger.  I 
went with cork tape versus shellacked cloth on the drops to dampen some of the 
vibration.  I figured either the Force Field Fatty Rumpkins or Schwalbe 
Marathons were the best options for riding roads covered in sharp flint.  Not a 
lot of other options in 650b.  I could not believe how many riders were 
flatting.  I saw a least a couple people flat in the first mile or two.  I will 
probably save the Rumpkins for next years DK and go with a lighter, faster, 
more supple tire.  I was also running them at 45 PSI and probably should have 
gone lower.  How did the roads in the DK compare to the Alamanzo and 
Trans-Iowa.  I also should have used a Revelate type frame bag with a bladder 
and easy access to food.  The Riv Boxy Bag I used for food and energy 
supplements swayed a lot and the zippers were hard to open while riding.  I 
also would have preferred not to use my Camelback.  Like you Tony, I went a 
little overboard and was too much stuff.

Chad

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[RBW] Re: I raced my Riv.

2014-06-05 Thread Wildcat96
Those pics are awesome.  Despite my failed BB, I still had a blast and plan 
to be there again next year with my Sam!

On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 9:26:23 AM UTC-5, Tony McG wrote:

 Here are links to pictures of the race:
 You do not need a facebook account to view these pics.

 https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.664251316961829.1073741948.357965467590417type=1

 http://adventuremonkey.com/blog/dirty-kanza-200-2014-edition




 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-JlyB_Hn0W2E/U40w_8fY_OI/ACk/U43mvfA3SuQ/s1600/DK_1225-%28ZF-0500-46390-1-001%29.jpg



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[RBW] Re: I raced my Riv.

2014-06-05 Thread 'Tony McG' via RBW Owners Bunch
Chad,
I can't believe I rode by without noticing your bike!!!  I must have had 
the tunnel vision going with the road being so crowded early in the race. 
 How did the Sam perform on the rough roads with your tire choice and 
mustache bars?  I was amazed at how stable the Atlantis was in the rough 
stuff and how fast and far I was able to coast down the hills.  The 
vibrations from the stiff tires with too much air pressure really wore on 
me towards the end of the race; I might wrap a layer of cork tape on the 
handlebars to see if it absorbs some of the vibrations.  Fortunately the 
roads smoothed out for the last 20-30 miles.  I am sorry to hear about your 
mechanical problems; you will have to give it a try again next year.

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Re: [RBW] Re: I raced my Riv.

2014-06-05 Thread Bill Lindsay
Force Field Fatty Rumpkins!  Awesome.  Way to thumb your nose at the Supple 
Zealots.  Those FFFs are S for Stout, not S for Supple.  

On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 6:01:13 PM UTC-7, Wildcat96 wrote:

 It started with a light grinding sound and I thought I had a peddle or 
 something in my chain.  I looked down and my crank was wobbling side to 
 side so I wasn't able to use my big ring.  I though a crank arm was lose 
 and made sure both sides were tight.  I tried to soldier on, but the 
 grinding turned in to creaking and my left side crank arm was pushed over 
 and  rubbing through the lip of the bottom bracket and the drive side arm 
 was pushed out and could be wiggled up and down and metal grounds were 
 coming out.  The BB was toast.  I had never crashed or  hit any objects 
 with the crank.  My LBS mechanic was at the race for support and agreed it 
 was toast.  It was the 107mm bottom bracket (Tange?)that came installed in 
 my Sam when I got the frame from Riv and I had the bike shop prep and 
 assemble the bike and thoroughly check everything during assembly and 2 
 days before the race.  I was pretty upset, but can't really blame Riv or 
 the LBS for a bad BB.  I've attached pics of my Sam 2 days before (country 
 bike version) and a day after the race (gravel racer).

 On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 7:20:09 PM UTC-5, Christopher Chen wrote:

 what happened to your bottom bracket?



  

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[RBW] Re: I raced my Riv.

2014-06-04 Thread 'Tony McG' via RBW Owners Bunch
Here are links to pictures of the race:
You do not need a facebook account to view these pics.
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.664251316961829.1073741948.357965467590417type=1

http://adventuremonkey.com/blog/dirty-kanza-200-2014-edition




 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-JlyB_Hn0W2E/U40w_8fY_OI/ACk/U43mvfA3SuQ/s1600/DK_1225-%28ZF-0500-46390-1-001%29.jpg


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[RBW] Re: I raced my Riv.

2014-06-04 Thread Wildcat96
Tony, you were not the only Riv in the Dirty Kanza this year.  I was riding 
my new Sage Green 650B Sam in the Half Pint and saw you pass me when we 
first hit gravel.  I also saw your Atlantis outside the theatre Friday 
night and had to take a pic since I figured the Rivs would be few and far 
between in the DK.  Unfortunately, I had to drop out at the water stop 28 
miles in because my bottom bracket went out.  I was really disappointed 
since I probably had less than 200 miles on the Sam and was just getting in 
to the fun part of the race.  I will say the 28 miles I rode were tough and 
I'm not sure I could of made the full 111.  This was my first endurance 
event, but definitely not my first time on gravel.  My goal was to at least 
make it to the 59 mile checkpoint.  The guys I rode with that finished were 
pretty beat up.  I can't imagine doing 200.  FWIW, most of the guys I rode 
with were running Clements MSO 40mm or Surly Knards and did not have any 
flats.  I was running the Force Field Fatty Rumpkins and also had no 
problems.  I can't believe how many people were flatting!

Chad in KC

On Monday, June 2, 2014 9:21:13 PM UTC-5, Tony McG wrote:

 My Atlantis was not the only Rivendell in the Almonzo 100, but I am pretty 
 sure that there was not another Riv in the Dirty Kanza 200 or Half Pint. 
  The bike performed flawlessly except for my sloppy friction shifting.   
 About a year ago, I drove up to Spring Valley, MN and rode with Jim Thill 
 and a bunch of country bike cyclist on the Almonzo 100 course.  After that 
 experience, I decided that gravel was a lot safer and more scenic than 
 riding on pavement.  I built a Surly LHT into a gravel grinder and started 
 riding with Guitar Ted on Saturday mornings for a 3-hour gravel ride.  I 
 found the Atlantis on this forum and realized that it was a much nicer ride 
 than the Trucker; the Surly has been hanging in the garage since.

 I wasn't out to win, just finish.  I haven't heard where I placed in the 
 Almonzo, but I finished the DK Half Pint in the top 1/4 of the starters and 
 the top 1/3 of the finishers.  I carried too much stuff, and should have 
 run lower air pressure in the tires.  I was afraid of pinch flats on the 
 cattle grates, but I was able to wheelie or hop the bike over most of them. 
  After the race, one of the more experienced riders suggested 35# in the 
 front and 40# in the back; I was running 45# in both of the Schwalbe Dureme 
 700cX40.  I am looking forward to trying the Half Pint (111 miles) again 
 next year, but I doubt if I will ever do the 200.  After 8 hours of gravel, 
 wind, hills, heat, and sun, I am ready to get off of the bike.


 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-JlyB_Hn0W2E/U40w_8fY_OI/ACk/U43mvfA3SuQ/s1600/DK_1225-%28ZF-0500-46390-1-001%29.jpg
 I love this bike and really love passing guys half my age on carbon fiber 
 'cross bikes...


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Re: [RBW] Re: I raced my Riv.

2014-06-04 Thread Chris Chen
what happened to your bottom bracket?


On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Wildcat96 cschoentha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Tony, you were not the only Riv in the Dirty Kanza this year.  I was
 riding my new Sage Green 650B Sam in the Half Pint and saw you pass me when
 we first hit gravel.  I also saw your Atlantis outside the theatre Friday
 night and had to take a pic since I figured the Rivs would be few and far
 between in the DK.  Unfortunately, I had to drop out at the water stop 28
 miles in because my bottom bracket went out.  I was really disappointed
 since I probably had less than 200 miles on the Sam and was just getting in
 to the fun part of the race.  I will say the 28 miles I rode were tough and
 I'm not sure I could of made the full 111.  This was my first endurance
 event, but definitely not my first time on gravel.  My goal was to at least
 make it to the 59 mile checkpoint.  The guys I rode with that finished were
 pretty beat up.  I can't imagine doing 200.  FWIW, most of the guys I rode
 with were running Clements MSO 40mm or Surly Knards and did not have any
 flats.  I was running the Force Field Fatty Rumpkins and also had no
 problems.  I can't believe how many people were flatting!

 Chad in KC


 On Monday, June 2, 2014 9:21:13 PM UTC-5, Tony McG wrote:

 My Atlantis was not the only Rivendell in the Almonzo 100, but I am
 pretty sure that there was not another Riv in the Dirty Kanza 200 or Half
 Pint.  The bike performed flawlessly except for my sloppy friction
 shifting.   About a year ago, I drove up to Spring Valley, MN and rode with
 Jim Thill and a bunch of country bike cyclist on the Almonzo 100 course.
  After that experience, I decided that gravel was a lot safer and more
 scenic than riding on pavement.  I built a Surly LHT into a gravel grinder
 and started riding with Guitar Ted on Saturday mornings for a 3-hour gravel
 ride.  I found the Atlantis on this forum and realized that it was a much
 nicer ride than the Trucker; the Surly has been hanging in the garage since.

 I wasn't out to win, just finish.  I haven't heard where I placed in the
 Almonzo, but I finished the DK Half Pint in the top 1/4 of the starters and
 the top 1/3 of the finishers.  I carried too much stuff, and should have
 run lower air pressure in the tires.  I was afraid of pinch flats on the
 cattle grates, but I was able to wheelie or hop the bike over most of them.
  After the race, one of the more experienced riders suggested 35# in the
 front and 40# in the back; I was running 45# in both of the Schwalbe Dureme
 700cX40.  I am looking forward to trying the Half Pint (111 miles) again
 next year, but I doubt if I will ever do the 200.  After 8 hours of gravel,
 wind, hills, heat, and sun, I am ready to get off of the bike.


 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-JlyB_Hn0W2E/U40w_8fY_OI/ACk/U43mvfA3SuQ/s1600/DK_1225-%28ZF-0500-46390-1-001%29.jpg
 I love this bike and really love passing guys half my age on carbon fiber
 'cross bikes...

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Re: [RBW] Re: I raced my Riv.

2014-06-03 Thread Eric Platt
Congrats!  Knowing through friends how tough that course is, I'm extremely
impressed.  Glad to know the Atlantis is perfect for that type of riding.
 Did one (Westside Dirty Benjamin) on a Fargo with 2.1 inch tires and my
hands were numb for days.

Am totally in awe of your accomplishments.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN


On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 10:55 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Living in MD, it is hard to imagine riding on 100 miles of gravel
 road/trail.

 I just don't know of anything like that around here.
 That looks like some fun and beautiful scenery to ride through.
 Congrats on the great accomplishment!

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[RBW] Re: I raced my Riv.

2014-06-03 Thread Deacon Patrick
Fantastic! You are right, dirt roads are far more relaxing.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: I raced my Riv.

2014-06-03 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Tony, 
This is so awesome. Love the pic, Shoji

On Monday, June 2, 2014 10:21:13 PM UTC-4, Tony McG wrote:

 My Atlantis was not the only Rivendell in the Almonzo 100, but I am pretty 
 sure that there was not another Riv in the Dirty Kanza 200 or Half Pint. 
  The bike performed flawlessly except for my sloppy friction shifting.   
 About a year ago, I drove up to Spring Valley, MN and rode with Jim Thill 
 and a bunch of country bike cyclist on the Almonzo 100 course.  After that 
 experience, I decided that gravel was a lot safer and more scenic than 
 riding on pavement.  I built a Surly LHT into a gravel grinder and started 
 riding with Guitar Ted on Saturday mornings for a 3-hour gravel ride.  I 
 found the Atlantis on this forum and realized that it was a much nicer ride 
 than the Trucker; the Surly has been hanging in the garage since.

 I wasn't out to win, just finish.  I haven't heard where I placed in the 
 Almonzo, but I finished the DK Half Pint in the top 1/4 of the starters and 
 the top 1/3 of the finishers.  I carried too much stuff, and should have 
 run lower air pressure in the tires.  I was afraid of pinch flats on the 
 cattle grates, but I was able to wheelie or hop the bike over most of them. 
  After the race, one of the more experienced riders suggested 35# in the 
 front and 40# in the back; I was running 45# in both of the Schwalbe Dureme 
 700cX40.  I am looking forward to trying the Half Pint (111 miles) again 
 next year, but I doubt if I will ever do the 200.  After 8 hours of gravel, 
 wind, hills, heat, and sun, I am ready to get off of the bike.


 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-JlyB_Hn0W2E/U40w_8fY_OI/ACk/U43mvfA3SuQ/s1600/DK_1225-%28ZF-0500-46390-1-001%29.jpg
 I love this bike and really love passing guys half my age on carbon fiber 
 'cross bikes...


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[RBW] Re: I raced my Riv.

2014-06-03 Thread Ryan
Awesomeyou da man!
On Monday, June 2, 2014 9:21:13 PM UTC-5, Tony McG wrote: 

 My Atlantis was not the only Rivendell in the Almonzo 100, but I am pretty 
 sure that there was not another Riv in the Dirty Kanza 200 or Half Pint. 
  The bike performed flawlessly except for my sloppy friction shifting.   
 About a year ago, I drove up to Spring Valley, MN and rode with Jim Thill 
 and a bunch of country bike cyclist on the Almonzo 100 course.  After that 
 experience, I decided that gravel was a lot safer and more scenic than 
 riding on pavement.  I built a Surly LHT into a gravel grinder and started 
 riding with Guitar Ted on Saturday mornings for a 3-hour gravel ride.  I 
 found the Atlantis on this forum and realized that it was a much nicer ride 
 than the Trucker; the Surly has been hanging in the garage since. 

 I wasn't out to win, just finish.  I haven't heard where I placed in the 
 Almonzo, but I finished the DK Half Pint in the top 1/4 of the starters and 
 the top 1/3 of the finishers.  I carried too much stuff, and should have 
 run lower air pressure in the tires.  I was afraid of pinch flats on the 
 cattle grates, but I was able to wheelie or hop the bike over most of them. 
  After the race, one of the more experienced riders suggested 35# in the 
 front and 40# in the back; I was running 45# in both of the Schwalbe Dureme 
 700cX40.  I am looking forward to trying the Half Pint (111 miles) again 
 next year, but I doubt if I will ever do the 200.  After 8 hours of gravel, 
 wind, hills, heat, and sun, I am ready to get off of the bike.

  
 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-JlyB_Hn0W2E/U40w_8fY_OI/ACk/U43mvfA3SuQ/s1600/DK_1225-%28ZF-0500-46390-1-001%29.jpg
 I love this bike and really love passing guys half my age on carbon fiber 
 'cross bikes...


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[RBW] Re: I raced my Riv.

2014-06-03 Thread Bill Lindsay
I love that butched-up Atlantis.  LOVE

On Monday, June 2, 2014 7:21:13 PM UTC-7, Tony McG wrote:

 My Atlantis was not the only Rivendell in the Almonzo 100, but I am pretty 
 sure that there was not another Riv in the Dirty Kanza 200 or Half Pint. 
  The bike performed flawlessly except for my sloppy friction shifting.   
 About a year ago, I drove up to Spring Valley, MN and rode with Jim Thill 
 and a bunch of country bike cyclist on the Almonzo 100 course.  After that 
 experience, I decided that gravel was a lot safer and more scenic than 
 riding on pavement.  I built a Surly LHT into a gravel grinder and started 
 riding with Guitar Ted on Saturday mornings for a 3-hour gravel ride.  I 
 found the Atlantis on this forum and realized that it was a much nicer ride 
 than the Trucker; the Surly has been hanging in the garage since.

 I wasn't out to win, just finish.  I haven't heard where I placed in the 
 Almonzo, but I finished the DK Half Pint in the top 1/4 of the starters and 
 the top 1/3 of the finishers.  I carried too much stuff, and should have 
 run lower air pressure in the tires.  I was afraid of pinch flats on the 
 cattle grates, but I was able to wheelie or hop the bike over most of them. 
  After the race, one of the more experienced riders suggested 35# in the 
 front and 40# in the back; I was running 45# in both of the Schwalbe Dureme 
 700cX40.  I am looking forward to trying the Half Pint (111 miles) again 
 next year, but I doubt if I will ever do the 200.  After 8 hours of gravel, 
 wind, hills, heat, and sun, I am ready to get off of the bike.


 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-JlyB_Hn0W2E/U40w_8fY_OI/ACk/U43mvfA3SuQ/s1600/DK_1225-%28ZF-0500-46390-1-001%29.jpg
 I love this bike and really love passing guys half my age on carbon fiber 
 'cross bikes...


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[RBW] Re: I raced my Riv.

2014-06-03 Thread 'Tony McG' via RBW Owners Bunch
This photo was taken at the top of a very steep climb.  The gravel looks 
pretty tame in the pic, but the slope I had just climbed was covered with 
huge slabs of rock that I had to go over instead of picking a line through. 
 Ride with GPS list 3800' of elevation for the Half Pint, but my Garmin 
only measured a little over 3400'.  I was able to ride the whole course in 
the middle ring with a 11-34 cassette.  I used the small ring several times 
on the Almonzo because there was many more long and steep hills with my 
Garmin measuring over 5400' in 102 miles.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-rzETNadtcyU/U44VzYpBDLI/AC4/wqcyfxur0Kg/s1600/photo.JPG
I rode the Duremes because they were already on the bike and I had heard 
horror stories of the razor-like flint cutting tires to shreds; I saw 
scores of cyclists changing flats.  Before the race, I had thought about 
buying a Rawland Stag and using some of the parts off of the Trucker to 
make a dedicated gravel grinder, but I think I will upgrade the wheelset on 
the Atlantis and try some of the new gravel tires that are hitting the 
market.  The Clement MSO was by far the most popular tire and I will 
seriously consider these when I get the new wheels.  I took this picture of 
my bike after I got back to the dorm room at ESU...

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Re: [RBW] Re: I raced my Riv.

2014-06-03 Thread Chris Chen
Riv's look so good when they get dirty.

SRSLY


On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 11:38 AM, 'Tony McG' via RBW Owners Bunch 
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:

 This photo was taken at the top of a very steep climb.  The gravel looks
 pretty tame in the pic, but the slope I had just climbed was covered with
 huge slabs of rock that I had to go over instead of picking a line through.
  Ride with GPS list 3800' of elevation for the Half Pint, but my Garmin
 only measured a little over 3400'.  I was able to ride the whole course in
 the middle ring with a 11-34 cassette.  I used the small ring several times
 on the Almonzo because there was many more long and steep hills with my
 Garmin measuring over 5400' in 102 miles.


 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-rzETNadtcyU/U44VzYpBDLI/AC4/wqcyfxur0Kg/s1600/photo.JPG
 I rode the Duremes because they were already on the bike and I had heard
 horror stories of the razor-like flint cutting tires to shreds; I saw
 scores of cyclists changing flats.  Before the race, I had thought about
 buying a Rawland Stag and using some of the parts off of the Trucker to
 make a dedicated gravel grinder, but I think I will upgrade the wheelset on
 the Atlantis and try some of the new gravel tires that are hitting the
 market.  The Clement MSO was by far the most popular tire and I will
 seriously consider these when I get the new wheels.  I took this picture of
 my bike after I got back to the dorm room at ESU...

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[RBW] Re: I raced my Riv.

2014-06-03 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
Just out of curiosity, did you see many people running MTB handlebars 
rather than drops?



On Monday, June 2, 2014 9:21:13 PM UTC-5, Tony McG wrote:

 My Atlantis was not the only Rivendell in the Almonzo 100, but I am pretty 
 sure that there was not another Riv in the Dirty Kanza 200 or Half Pint. 
  The bike performed flawlessly except for my sloppy friction shifting.   
 About a year ago, I drove up to Spring Valley, MN and rode with Jim Thill 
 and a bunch of country bike cyclist on the Almonzo 100 course.  After that 
 experience, I decided that gravel was a lot safer and more scenic than 
 riding on pavement.  I built a Surly LHT into a gravel grinder and started 
 riding with Guitar Ted on Saturday mornings for a 3-hour gravel ride.  I 
 found the Atlantis on this forum and realized that it was a much nicer ride 
 than the Trucker; the Surly has been hanging in the garage since.

 I wasn't out to win, just finish.  I haven't heard where I placed in the 
 Almonzo, but I finished the DK Half Pint in the top 1/4 of the starters and 
 the top 1/3 of the finishers.  I carried too much stuff, and should have 
 run lower air pressure in the tires.  I was afraid of pinch flats on the 
 cattle grates, but I was able to wheelie or hop the bike over most of them. 
  After the race, one of the more experienced riders suggested 35# in the 
 front and 40# in the back; I was running 45# in both of the Schwalbe Dureme 
 700cX40.  I am looking forward to trying the Half Pint (111 miles) again 
 next year, but I doubt if I will ever do the 200.  After 8 hours of gravel, 
 wind, hills, heat, and sun, I am ready to get off of the bike.


 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-JlyB_Hn0W2E/U40w_8fY_OI/ACk/U43mvfA3SuQ/s1600/DK_1225-%28ZF-0500-46390-1-001%29.jpg
 I love this bike and really love passing guys half my age on carbon fiber 
 'cross bikes...


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[RBW] Re: I raced my Riv.

2014-06-03 Thread Jim M.
Very cool! I think a tubeless setup would be ideal for gravel rides.

jim m
wc ca

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[RBW] Re: I raced my Riv.

2014-06-03 Thread 'Tony McG' via RBW Owners Bunch
Chris,
I would guestimate 25% of the bikes had MTB bars.  Most of the bicycles 
were 'cross bikes and Salsa Vaya, Fargo, or Warbird.  There were several 
x-country type MTB, some hybrids, a few fat bikes, off-road tandems, and 
regular road bikes.

Jim M.,
A lot of the serious gravel racers that I know run tubeless.  They tell me 
that they can run lower tire pressures and not have to worry about pinching 
the tube when they hit something harsh.

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[RBW] Re: I raced my Riv.

2014-06-03 Thread dougP
Tony:

Congrats on a great ride.  I'm a firm believer my Atlantis can do things I 
shouldn't be doing anyway  so is the perfect bike for my needs.  Sounds 
like yours is close to standard Riv spec  you enjoyed the ride  didn't 
suffer for lack of equipment.  Good to hear confirmation that lower 
pressure chubby tires can survive sharp gravel.  I love 40mm tires but 
haven't tried below 50 psi.  The 35f/40r suggestion is worth a try.  

dougP

On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 2:29:35 PM UTC-7, Tony McG wrote:

 Chris,
 I would guestimate 25% of the bikes had MTB bars.  Most of the bicycles 
 were 'cross bikes and Salsa Vaya, Fargo, or Warbird.  There were several 
 x-country type MTB, some hybrids, a few fat bikes, off-road tandems, and 
 regular road bikes.

 Jim M.,
 A lot of the serious gravel racers that I know run tubeless.  They tell me 
 that they can run lower tire pressures and not have to worry about pinching 
 the tube when they hit something harsh.


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[RBW] Re: I raced my Riv.

2014-06-02 Thread Mike Schiller
very cool Tony.   Sounds like you had a good time. I would also suggest a 
more supple tire like the Clement MSO next time, the Duremes are bombproof 
but make the ride a little too rough I think.
~mike
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Re: [RBW] Re: I raced my Riv.

2014-06-02 Thread cyclotourist
That is just so awesome, Tony. I am quite the fan of the homegrown gravel
race/ride scene. I think it's a really healthy infusion of sensibility into
bike culture.



Cheers,
David

it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 8:33 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.com
wrote:

 very cool Tony.   Sounds like you had a good time. I would also suggest a
 more supple tire like the Clement MSO next time, the Duremes are bombproof
 but make the ride a little too rough I think.
 ~mike
 Carlsbad Ca.


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[RBW] Re: I raced my Riv.

2014-06-02 Thread Michael


 Living in MD, it is hard to imagine riding on 100 miles of gravel 
 road/trail.

I just don't know of anything like that around here. 
That looks like some fun and beautiful scenery to ride through.
Congrats on the great accomplishment! 

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[RBW] Re: I raced my Riv in a mountain bike race

2013-05-28 Thread Scott G.


On Tuesday, May 28, 2013 1:08:01 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:

 HA! Rivendell makes race bikes!


The sponsorship check and team jerseys are in the mail.
A packet of 24 additional Rivendell logos to put on your bike are
being sent under separate cover.  Dr. Fuentes will send you a
'special' packet soon, welcome to racing.


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[RBW] Re: I raced my Riv in a mountain bike race

2013-05-28 Thread Alex Moll
HA - good one!

I forgot to mention one snide remark from a fellow asking where my racks, 
bags, and panniers were. Pretty sure I kicked his ass.

I also meant to point out in my original post that I'm NOT a racer. Don't 
have the knack for it, not good at it, don't really enjoy it, haven't 
really raced anything since college days more than two decades ago. I much 
prefer to just ride, but I'm also not totally averse to riding hard once in 
awhile. And this mixed surface course was pretty fun to ride.

This event is a bit different, though. I think one of the S2S slogans is 
more than just a race. As you can sense from the pics, it was a fun boys 
weekend - hanging out, joking and laughing with a bunch of colleagues as 
another school year draws to a close.

The top teams recruit racers from all over the world, and they get 
national, olympic, and worlds caliber athletes (thus the S2S nickname 
Bellingham Olympics.) Those teams finish hours ahead of us. My team is 
mostly 40ish guys in better than average (USA) shape, that somehow find the 
whole event (weekend) fun. One guy is a triathlete, but I think he's the 
only racer in the bunch. Still, we finished 144th out of nearly 500 teams - 
many of those teams finished hours behind us (and they had fun, too.)

I think these sorts of events are becoming more popular, and they are 
pretty laid back and fun. So if you get an invite - consider it.


On Tuesday, May 28, 2013 5:56:56 AM UTC-7, Scott G. wrote:



 On Tuesday, May 28, 2013 1:08:01 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:

 HA! Rivendell makes race bikes!


 The sponsorship check and team jerseys are in the mail.
 A packet of 24 additional Rivendell logos to put on your bike are
 being sent under separate cover.  Dr. Fuentes will send you a
 'special' packet soon, welcome to racing.




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Re: [RBW] Re: I raced my Riv in a mountain bike race

2013-05-28 Thread Bertin753


Patrick Moore
iPhone

On May 28, 2013, at 7:34 AM, Alex Moll alex_m...@lkstevens.wednet.edu wrote:

 HA - good one!
 
 I forgot to mention one snide remark from a fellow asking where my racks, 
 bags, and panniers were. Pretty sure I kicked his ass.

Spoken and done like a true Rivendellian!

Patrick Just Kick Ass Moore
 
 I also meant to point out in my original post that I'm NOT a racer. Don't 
 have the knack for it, not good at it, don't really enjoy it, haven't really 
 raced anything since college days more than two decades ago. I much prefer to 
 just ride, but I'm also not totally averse to riding hard once in awhile. And 
 this mixed surface course was pretty fun to ride.
 
 This event is a bit different, though. I think one of the S2S slogans is 
 more than just a race. As you can sense from the pics, it was a fun boys 
 weekend - hanging out, joking and laughing with a bunch of colleagues as 
 another school year draws to a close.
 
 The top teams recruit racers from all over the world, and they get national, 
 olympic, and worlds caliber athletes (thus the S2S nickname Bellingham 
 Olympics.) Those teams finish hours ahead of us. My team is mostly 40ish 
 guys in better than average (USA) shape, that somehow find the whole event 
 (weekend) fun. One guy is a triathlete, but I think he's the only racer in 
 the bunch. Still, we finished 144th out of nearly 500 teams - many of those 
 teams finished hours behind us (and they had fun, too.)
 
 I think these sorts of events are becoming more popular, and they are pretty 
 laid back and fun. So if you get an invite - consider it.
 
 
 On Tuesday, May 28, 2013 5:56:56 AM UTC-7, Scott G. wrote:
 
 
 
 On Tuesday, May 28, 2013 1:08:01 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
 
 HA! Rivendell makes race bikes!
 
 The sponsorship check and team jerseys are in the mail.
 A packet of 24 additional Rivendell logos to put on your bike are
 being sent under separate cover.  Dr. Fuentes will send you a
 'special' packet soon, welcome to racing.
 
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[RBW] Re: I raced my Riv in a mountain bike race

2013-05-27 Thread grant
Of course it needn't be said that, ahem, we don't want to encourage the use 
of our beautiful bikes for such lowly pursuits as racing...*way to go, Alex 
! *Fantastic pics of the bike, great story, you've got it all. Thanks for 
posting.

On Monday, May 27, 2013 9:03:15 PM UTC-7, Alex Moll wrote:

 Ski to Sea (aka the Bellingham Olympics) is a 93 mile, 7-leg relay race 
 from Mount Baker to Bellingham Bay. My principal and a group of teacher 
 buddies have been doing this event for a few years. XC Ski-downhill 
 ski-run-road bike-canoe-XC bike-kayak. Their mountain biker decided to 
 retire, so I was asked to join the team. The mountain bike leg is about 13 
 miles long and mixed terrain and surfaces, but not extremely technical. 
 They started allowing cyclocross bikes a couple years ago, and though the 
 mountain bike would be more comfortable in a lot of spots, the 'cross bikes 
 are faster overall. They also decided to change the name of the leg to 
 Cross-Country Bike.

 Country Bike? Sounds like a job for my Riv! I have a couple of mountain 
 bikes, but knew the Riv would be faster overall.

 I pre-rode the course on Saturday with JB greens. What fun! The tires 
 worked great on the fairly dry course. Alas, it rained all night, and all 
 day Sunday - which required a last minute switch to 'cross mud tires. The 
 Michelin Tires were labelled 700x30, but actually measured 34mm (pleasant 
 surprise!) The Silver sidepulls had plenty of mud clearance, and worked 
 fine in the muck. I did have one mishap fairly early in the event - I 
 leaned over to far on wet pavement, lost the front and laid it down. 
 Luckily, it was a slow/tight/technical 90 degree turn. That did cause me to 
 be a bit more cautious, and possibly the minute I needed to crack Top 100 
 glory.

 So, the bike did great and the engine wasn't as weak as I'd feared. I 
 finished 170 out of nearly 500.

 Pics here: 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/39151498@N07/sets/72157633729826500/


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[RBW] Re: I raced my Riv in a mountain bike race

2013-05-27 Thread Joe Bernard
HA! Rivendell makes race bikes!

On Monday, May 27, 2013 9:58:33 PM UTC-7, grant wrote:

 Of course it needn't be said that, ahem, we don't want to encourage the 
 use of our beautiful bikes for such lowly pursuits as racing...*way to 
 go, Alex ! *Fantastic pics of the bike, great story, you've got it all. 
 Thanks for posting.

 On Monday, May 27, 2013 9:03:15 PM UTC-7, Alex Moll wrote:

 Ski to Sea (aka the Bellingham Olympics) is a 93 mile, 7-leg relay race 
 from Mount Baker to Bellingham Bay. My principal and a group of teacher 
 buddies have been doing this event for a few years. XC Ski-downhill 
 ski-run-road bike-canoe-XC bike-kayak. Their mountain biker decided to 
 retire, so I was asked to join the team. The mountain bike leg is about 13 
 miles long and mixed terrain and surfaces, but not extremely technical. 
 They started allowing cyclocross bikes a couple years ago, and though the 
 mountain bike would be more comfortable in a lot of spots, the 'cross bikes 
 are faster overall. They also decided to change the name of the leg to 
 Cross-Country Bike.

 Country Bike? Sounds like a job for my Riv! I have a couple of mountain 
 bikes, but knew the Riv would be faster overall.

 I pre-rode the course on Saturday with JB greens. What fun! The tires 
 worked great on the fairly dry course. Alas, it rained all night, and all 
 day Sunday - which required a last minute switch to 'cross mud tires. The 
 Michelin Tires were labelled 700x30, but actually measured 34mm (pleasant 
 surprise!) The Silver sidepulls had plenty of mud clearance, and worked 
 fine in the muck. I did have one mishap fairly early in the event - I 
 leaned over to far on wet pavement, lost the front and laid it down. 
 Luckily, it was a slow/tight/technical 90 degree turn. That did cause me to 
 be a bit more cautious, and possibly the minute I needed to crack Top 100 
 glory.

 So, the bike did great and the engine wasn't as weak as I'd feared. I 
 finished 170 out of nearly 500.

 Pics here: 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/39151498@N07/sets/72157633729826500/



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