[RBW] Re: In praise of versatility
Earlier this year the minimum was SEVEN! What happened? And even though I would be happy with one bike... I do have three. I would love a Fargo. And a Roadeo. And before that, I wanted a Pugsley. And before that, a Kogswell Porteur. But I just keep riding my Quickbeam, and my mountain bike, and my 'pick up the slack Ross. Sometimes I ride my wife's 3-speed Steyr, but I'm forbidden to raise the seat. I noticed a while ago that everyone buys the same jacket again and again. No one else even knows they got a new jacket. It's the same with bikes. What I need a bike to do is carry me and some groceries to work and home. Go for longer rides in the countryside on steep gravel roads with a dog. That's not an extensive spec. The mountain bike won't carry groceries, the Ross won't sketch down the vertical trails around here. The Quickbeam will do both, but the Ross is better at the CSA run, and the Bontrager is better at hanging off the back and rolling out the steep bits. A real front rack and a narrower saddle, and the QB would be 98% of the other two, instead of 90%. Philip www.biketinker.com this song is about a murder at a drive-in... On Sep 1, 8:21 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: The Powers that Be have just cut the statutory minimum number of bicycles from five to four: gofast; gofast commuter (just first gofast but with fenders, lights, rack); beater that is as close to the second gofast as possible but much cheaper so that you actually enjoy riding it to Costco or Albertsons but, if it were stolen, you would week only briefly. Next, off road bike; and, I had added tourer. But I am hoping that the Fargo will coalesce the last two into a unity with two separate wheelsets. On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 6:45 PM, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Well, I'm at 4 (or 3 1/2 since one is a folder). And to be quite honest, three are somewhat overlapping. Yes, I could maybe, possibly, get by with one bike (my Sam Hillborne). But then I'd feel guilty riding it through the slush/ice/snow of winter knowing the frame will probably rot in about 5 or 6 years due to inattentive maintenance. Right there, need a winter beater. Then riding a poorly maintained rail-trail a week or so ago on the Hillborne, realized that a bike that takes wider than 40s would be more appropriate for that task. Again, another bike. So, while something like a Hunqapillar could, in theory, work as an only, too many other variables intervene. Not the least of which is my history of collecting/hoarding stuff. Then again, while in college, did only have one bike. A Specialized Stumpjumper. So have done it. Just not positive I'd want to go that route again. BTW, I'm in the opposite camp on racing. Do have some interest in the pros, but no interest whatsoever in a gofast type of bike. My riding style is just entirely wrong for it. On Sep 1, 4:56 pm, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote: I'm down to a nearly all-time low of 3 bikes. What i've figured out with the single bike notion is that, for me, the goal of having one bike isn't worth the hassle of changing that bike for different uses. I do switch my 'cross bike from commuter to racer and back once a year, but i get tired of swapping out wheels and bags and whatnot just for a weekend of dirt riding. Likewise, i rode many years on a MB4 and got tired of the way it handled on the road with slicks. I'm not a racer or extreme rider by any means, but i do enjoy tools that are reasonably well-suited to the job, and my riding is diverse enough that i have a hard time getting below 2-3 bikes. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:26 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Define enough. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Pondero cj.spin...@gmail.com wrote: ...but can one bike do enough? -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: In praise of versatility
Enough, as I imagined it, would be sufficient for a given person. In other words, might it possible that someone might have a sufficiently narrow use range, so that one versatile bike could satisfy? Yeah, you're right, probably not. Not if that someone really likes bicycles. On Aug 31, 8:26 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Define enough. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: In praise of versatility
OK, I'll play: one bike can't do it all - I've tried. define can't. With a Bombadil and maybe 4 sets of tires and maybe 3 handlebar/cockpit setups, I'd argue that there is no ride under the big umbrella of it all' that this theoretical one bike can't do. In order to say that it can't, I think you'd have to bring in qualitative stuff like my Bombadil with road tires and drop bars can't be 23 lbs. Or that a moderate fitness level person can't keep up with similarly fit riders on MRCBs. Or that nobody could win the Tuesday night Crit on it. Don't get me wrong, I'm the last person in the world that would try to get by with one bike, but if I did want to live in a studio apartment and have only one bike, I bet I could have something that could cover everything I wanted to do on a bike, and that there would be nothing that I wanted to do on a bike that could not be done on that one bike. On Aug 31, 6:26 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Define enough. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Pondero cj.spin...@gmail.com wrote: ...but can one bike do enough? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: In praise of versatility
define can't. With a Bombadil and maybe 4 sets of tires and maybe 3 handlebar/cockpit setups, I'd argue that there is no ride under the big umbrella of it all' that this theoretical one bike can't do. In order to say that it can't, I think you'd have to bring in qualitative stuff like my Bombadil with road tires and drop bars can't be 23 lbs. Or that a moderate fitness level person can't keep up with similarly fit riders on MRCBs. Or that nobody could win the Tuesday night Crit on it. Not so much the competition stuff - I could care less about organized amateur (or pro for that matter) riding. But rather the certain magical ride quality a bike made with thin wall tubing, be it 531, Columbia SL or the modern equivalents the Bomb could never match. If the Bomb owner does not care about this admittedly subjective pleasure, than maybe the Bomb is the only bike needed. For me if I were to have only one bike it would probably be a Hilsen. Maybe 650b so I could use real fat tires for off/rough road. On Sep 1, 9:43 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I'll play: one bike can't do it all - I've tried. define can't. With a Bombadil and maybe 4 sets of tires and maybe 3 handlebar/cockpit setups, I'd argue that there is no ride under the big umbrella of it all' that this theoretical one bike can't do. In order to say that it can't, I think you'd have to bring in qualitative stuff like my Bombadil with road tires and drop bars can't be 23 lbs. Or that a moderate fitness level person can't keep up with similarly fit riders on MRCBs. Or that nobody could win the Tuesday night Crit on it. Don't get me wrong, I'm the last person in the world that would try to get by with one bike, but if I did want to live in a studio apartment and have only one bike, I bet I could have something that could cover everything I wanted to do on a bike, and that there would be nothing that I wanted to do on a bike that could not be done on that one bike. On Aug 31, 6:26 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Define enough. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Pondero cj.spin...@gmail.com wrote: ...but can one bike do enough? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: In praise of versatility
I've considered this subject a few times recently. I am hoping to semi- retire next year and relocate to smaller place near the ocean, perhaps with only a one car garage. what bike or what few bikes would I choose to do the riding Ilike to do. I would want a lightweight fast road bike with 28mm tires, an allrounder that could handle 40mm tires, a touring bike with racks, a bomber mountain bike with 2.2 knobbies and a cheap urban bike that won't attack attention locked to a pole. I also need to consider space for our tandem and wifes urban bike. I can't see to get down to below 2. Maybe a 650B Hilsen with two wheelsets and perhaps a Hunqapillar, Bombadil or Fargo would work. On 2nd thought I better look for a two car garage. ~Mike~ On Sep 1, 8:20 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: define can't. With a Bombadil and maybe 4 sets of tires and maybe 3 handlebar/cockpit setups, I'd argue that there is no ride under the big umbrella of it all' that this theoretical one bike can't do. In order to say that it can't, I think you'd have to bring in qualitative stuff like my Bombadil with road tires and drop bars can't be 23 lbs. Or that a moderate fitness level person can't keep up with similarly fit riders on MRCBs. Or that nobody could win the Tuesday night Crit on it. Not so much the competition stuff - I could care less about organized amateur (or pro for that matter) riding. But rather the certain magical ride quality a bike made with thin wall tubing, be it 531, Columbia SL or the modern equivalents the Bomb could never match. If the Bomb owner does not care about this admittedly subjective pleasure, than maybe the Bomb is the only bike needed. For me if I were to have only one bike it would probably be a Hilsen. Maybe 650b so I could use real fat tires for off/rough road. On Sep 1, 9:43 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I'll play: one bike can't do it all - I've tried. define can't. With a Bombadil and maybe 4 sets of tires and maybe 3 handlebar/cockpit setups, I'd argue that there is no ride under the big umbrella of it all' that this theoretical one bike can't do. In order to say that it can't, I think you'd have to bring in qualitative stuff like my Bombadil with road tires and drop bars can't be 23 lbs. Or that a moderate fitness level person can't keep up with similarly fit riders on MRCBs. Or that nobody could win the Tuesday night Crit on it. Don't get me wrong, I'm the last person in the world that would try to get by with one bike, but if I did want to live in a studio apartment and have only one bike, I bet I could have something that could cover everything I wanted to do on a bike, and that there would be nothing that I wanted to do on a bike that could not be done on that one bike. On Aug 31, 6:26 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Define enough. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Pondero cj.spin...@gmail.com wrote: ...but can one bike do enough? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: In praise of versatility
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 8:43 AM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I'll play: one bike can't do it all - I've tried. define can't. Well parried. I mean, in my own case, I *do* want at least one, light, fast as possible road bike with all the qualities of top road bike handling -- and this is what rules out a heavier, heavier wheeled, slower handling bike -- can't speak of the Bombadil since I've not ridden it, but it certainly rules out the Sam Hill. I know what you mean; I tried it myself once, but gave up -- too much compromise between -- in my case -- ability to negotiate sandy soil and fast road type handling and feel. Each to his own, I guess. But I do maintain that it is not possible for me. With a Bombadil and maybe 4 sets of tires and maybe 3 handlebar/cockpit setups, I'd argue that there is no ride under the big umbrella of it all' that this theoretical one bike can't do. In order to say that it can't, I think you'd have to bring in qualitative stuff like my Bombadil with road tires and drop bars can't be 23 lbs. Or that a moderate fitness level person can't keep up with similarly fit riders on MRCBs. Or that nobody could win the Tuesday night Crit on it. Don't get me wrong, I'm the last person in the world that would try to get by with one bike, but if I did want to live in a studio apartment and have only one bike, I bet I could have something that could cover everything I wanted to do on a bike, and that there would be nothing that I wanted to do on a bike that could not be done on that one bike. On Aug 31, 6:26 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Define enough. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Pondero cj.spin...@gmail.com wrote: ...but can one bike do enough? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: In praise of versatility
Well parried. I'm glad you took as intended, just playing with words. I'm totally on board with the notion that there is a broad range of ride qualities that no one bike can provide, and I think you are spot on with tubing dimensions. I think what you'd need is a bike with a couple dials on the handlebars that can adjust the diameter and wall thickness of your frame tubing. Build me a bike with that feature, and that bike could 'do it all' for me. On Sep 1, 9:03 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 8:43 AM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I'll play: one bike can't do it all - I've tried. define can't. Well parried. I mean, in my own case, I *do* want at least one, light, fast as possible road bike with all the qualities of top road bike handling -- and this is what rules out a heavier, heavier wheeled, slower handling bike -- can't speak of the Bombadil since I've not ridden it, but it certainly rules out the Sam Hill. I know what you mean; I tried it myself once, but gave up -- too much compromise between -- in my case -- ability to negotiate sandy soil and fast road type handling and feel. Each to his own, I guess. But I do maintain that it is not possible for me. With a Bombadil and maybe 4 sets of tires and maybe 3 handlebar/cockpit setups, I'd argue that there is no ride under the big umbrella of it all' that this theoretical one bike can't do. In order to say that it can't, I think you'd have to bring in qualitative stuff like my Bombadil with road tires and drop bars can't be 23 lbs. Or that a moderate fitness level person can't keep up with similarly fit riders on MRCBs. Or that nobody could win the Tuesday night Crit on it. Don't get me wrong, I'm the last person in the world that would try to get by with one bike, but if I did want to live in a studio apartment and have only one bike, I bet I could have something that could cover everything I wanted to do on a bike, and that there would be nothing that I wanted to do on a bike that could not be done on that one bike. On Aug 31, 6:26 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Define enough. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Pondero cj.spin...@gmail.com wrote: ...but can one bike do enough? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: In praise of versatility
Another side of the question is whether or not you demand the the ultimate in performance for various types of riding. If you intend to go on the weekly racers training ride on Thurs and rock hopping on Saturday, you need a couple of very different bicycles. OTH, if you like friendly pavement rides, S24Os, some hiking trails and fire roads, pretty much anything Riv makes can handle those. I've portaged my Atlantis across some rock falls that may have been passable on a double suspended MTB (not by me, mind you!) and chased some fast guys (downhill works best). It's obviously less than ideal for those situations, but not so much as to create serious bike lust. FWIW, as much as I love my Atlantis, I'll venture a Bomba or Hunqa, set up the same way, would perform just as well. dougP On Sep 1, 5:23 am, Pondero cj.spin...@gmail.com wrote: Enough, as I imagined it, would be sufficient for a given person. In other words, might it possible that someone might have a sufficiently narrow use range, so that one versatile bike could satisfy? Yeah, you're right, probably not. Not if that someone really likes bicycles. On Aug 31, 8:26 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Define enough.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: In praise of versatility
I'm with Joel on the competitive riding. Sometimes I feel like I should care, but I just don't. I kind of wish I'd been the one to call Alberto Contador that tri guy. I have three bikes, and would be happy with just the Quickbeam. If it was my only bike, I wouldn't switch out the cockpit, since it's perfectly dialed, but I'd change the tires and remove the fenders sometimes. I'd also figure out an easy way to remove the dynamo lighting. When I bought it, I really wanted the ability to run fatter tires, but 40mm is plenty for what I ever do. I've ridden the QB on everything I ride my mountain bike on. With 28mm tires, the bike feels fast, and light 25s, more so. I don't see ever running 25s again, though. I would probably end up with a few wheels. Philip On Sep 1, 8:20 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: define can't. With a Bombadil and maybe 4 sets of tires and maybe 3 handlebar/cockpit setups, I'd argue that there is no ride under the big umbrella of it all' that this theoretical one bike can't do. In order to say that it can't, I think you'd have to bring in qualitative stuff like my Bombadil with road tires and drop bars can't be 23 lbs. Or that a moderate fitness level person can't keep up with similarly fit riders on MRCBs. Or that nobody could win the Tuesday night Crit on it. Not so much the competition stuff - I could care less about organized amateur (or pro for that matter) riding. But rather the certain magical ride quality a bike made with thin wall tubing, be it 531, Columbia SL or the modern equivalents the Bomb could never match. If the Bomb owner does not care about this admittedly subjective pleasure, than maybe the Bomb is the only bike needed. For me if I were to have only one bike it would probably be a Hilsen. Maybe 650b so I could use real fat tires for off/rough road. On Sep 1, 9:43 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I'll play: one bike can't do it all - I've tried. define can't. With a Bombadil and maybe 4 sets of tires and maybe 3 handlebar/cockpit setups, I'd argue that there is no ride under the big umbrella of it all' that this theoretical one bike can't do. In order to say that it can't, I think you'd have to bring in qualitative stuff like my Bombadil with road tires and drop bars can't be 23 lbs. Or that a moderate fitness level person can't keep up with similarly fit riders on MRCBs. Or that nobody could win the Tuesday night Crit on it. Don't get me wrong, I'm the last person in the world that would try to get by with one bike, but if I did want to live in a studio apartment and have only one bike, I bet I could have something that could cover everything I wanted to do on a bike, and that there would be nothing that I wanted to do on a bike that could not be done on that one bike. On Aug 31, 6:26 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Define enough. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Pondero cj.spin...@gmail.com wrote: ...but can one bike do enough? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: In praise of versatility
I'm down to a nearly all-time low of 3 bikes. What i've figured out with the single bike notion is that, for me, the goal of having one bike isn't worth the hassle of changing that bike for different uses. I do switch my 'cross bike from commuter to racer and back once a year, but i get tired of swapping out wheels and bags and whatnot just for a weekend of dirt riding. Likewise, i rode many years on a MB4 and got tired of the way it handled on the road with slicks. I'm not a racer or extreme rider by any means, but i do enjoy tools that are reasonably well-suited to the job, and my riding is diverse enough that i have a hard time getting below 2-3 bikes. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:26 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Define enough. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Pondero cj.spin...@gmail.com wrote: ...but can one bike do enough? -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: In praise of versatility
Well, I'm at 4 (or 3 1/2 since one is a folder). And to be quite honest, three are somewhat overlapping. Yes, I could maybe, possibly, get by with one bike (my Sam Hillborne). But then I'd feel guilty riding it through the slush/ice/snow of winter knowing the frame will probably rot in about 5 or 6 years due to inattentive maintenance. Right there, need a winter beater. Then riding a poorly maintained rail-trail a week or so ago on the Hillborne, realized that a bike that takes wider than 40s would be more appropriate for that task. Again, another bike. So, while something like a Hunqapillar could, in theory, work as an only, too many other variables intervene. Not the least of which is my history of collecting/hoarding stuff. Then again, while in college, did only have one bike. A Specialized Stumpjumper. So have done it. Just not positive I'd want to go that route again. BTW, I'm in the opposite camp on racing. Do have some interest in the pros, but no interest whatsoever in a gofast type of bike. My riding style is just entirely wrong for it. On Sep 1, 4:56 pm, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote: I'm down to a nearly all-time low of 3 bikes. What i've figured out with the single bike notion is that, for me, the goal of having one bike isn't worth the hassle of changing that bike for different uses. I do switch my 'cross bike from commuter to racer and back once a year, but i get tired of swapping out wheels and bags and whatnot just for a weekend of dirt riding. Likewise, i rode many years on a MB4 and got tired of the way it handled on the road with slicks. I'm not a racer or extreme rider by any means, but i do enjoy tools that are reasonably well-suited to the job, and my riding is diverse enough that i have a hard time getting below 2-3 bikes. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:26 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Define enough. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Pondero cj.spin...@gmail.com wrote: ...but can one bike do enough? -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: In praise of versatility
The Powers that Be have just cut the statutory minimum number of bicycles from five to four: gofast; gofast commuter (just first gofast but with fenders, lights, rack); beater that is as close to the second gofast as possible but much cheaper so that you actually enjoy riding it to Costco or Albertsons but, if it were stolen, you would week only briefly. Next, off road bike; and, I had added tourer. But I am hoping that the Fargo will coalesce the last two into a unity with two separate wheelsets. On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 6:45 PM, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Well, I'm at 4 (or 3 1/2 since one is a folder). And to be quite honest, three are somewhat overlapping. Yes, I could maybe, possibly, get by with one bike (my Sam Hillborne). But then I'd feel guilty riding it through the slush/ice/snow of winter knowing the frame will probably rot in about 5 or 6 years due to inattentive maintenance. Right there, need a winter beater. Then riding a poorly maintained rail-trail a week or so ago on the Hillborne, realized that a bike that takes wider than 40s would be more appropriate for that task. Again, another bike. So, while something like a Hunqapillar could, in theory, work as an only, too many other variables intervene. Not the least of which is my history of collecting/hoarding stuff. Then again, while in college, did only have one bike. A Specialized Stumpjumper. So have done it. Just not positive I'd want to go that route again. BTW, I'm in the opposite camp on racing. Do have some interest in the pros, but no interest whatsoever in a gofast type of bike. My riding style is just entirely wrong for it. On Sep 1, 4:56 pm, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote: I'm down to a nearly all-time low of 3 bikes. What i've figured out with the single bike notion is that, for me, the goal of having one bike isn't worth the hassle of changing that bike for different uses. I do switch my 'cross bike from commuter to racer and back once a year, but i get tired of swapping out wheels and bags and whatnot just for a weekend of dirt riding. Likewise, i rode many years on a MB4 and got tired of the way it handled on the road with slicks. I'm not a racer or extreme rider by any means, but i do enjoy tools that are reasonably well-suited to the job, and my riding is diverse enough that i have a hard time getting below 2-3 bikes. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:26 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Define enough. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Pondero cj.spin...@gmail.com wrote: ...but can one bike do enough? -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: In praise of versatility
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Re: [RBW] Re: In praise of versatility
Define enough. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Pondero cj.spin...@gmail.com wrote: ...but can one bike do enough? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: In praise of versatility
Patrick: Seeing how Rene S had his Bombadil set up (with such a wide variety of configurations) is what ultimately drew me to this bike. When I get my hands on it, I'm going to try setting it up with 2 basic configurations: as roadish as I can, and as beastly (ie fat-tired monster bike) as I can. I've attempted this with other bikes (including a Salsa Ala Carte, which was alot of fun), but somehow I think the Bombadil can stretch the limit in both directions... we shall see... h. BB On Aug 31, 8:05 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: There is a huge difference between a bike that can roll over things with 60 mm Big Apples at sub-20 psi and a light, nimble Riv Road-type bike. Climbing, particularly, is different, but cornering and handling generally is also very different with light, narrower wheels. I love both kinds; one bike can't do it all - I've tried. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Kip Otteson kip.otte...@gmail.com wrote: I love my Bombadil's versatility. I don't know how a do-all bike should feel but this one can ride the trails and the street seamlessly. I don't think I'll be hucking rock gardens as I did with the knobbies and no fenders, but this setup still will allow me to ride some reasonable dirt. I really like how the Schwalbe Fatties are rolling along. However, they are very heavy! I feel like this bike is a green Hummer type thing. Just what I wanted. On a side note...am I missing a bunch by not having a more roadish Riv? http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/4935360348/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: In praise of versatility
Nice bike. I have pondered which first riv to get and the Bombadil makes the top two everytime. I know exactly the setup I want for it if I choose the Bomba, just don't know if it will beat out the Atlantis that I have built in my head as my first Riv. On Aug 31, 6:56 pm, Kip Otteson kip.otte...@gmail.com wrote: I love my Bombadil's versatility. I don't know how a do-all bike should feel but this one can ride the trails and the street seamlessly. I don't think I'll be hucking rock gardens as I did with the knobbies and no fenders, but this setup still will allow me to ride some reasonable dirt. I really like how the Schwalbe Fatties are rolling along. However, they are very heavy! I feel like this bike is a green Hummer type thing. Just what I wanted. On a side note...am I missing a bunch by not having a more roadish Riv? http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/4935360348/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
