[RBW] Re: Laken aluminum watter bottles rattle in cages?

2011-04-05 Thread George Schick
Can't speak for the Laken specifically, but I had the same rattle
problem with bottle cages (Nitto 'R', Blackburn, Specialized, you-name-
it) with Klean Kanteen bottles.  I found these
http://www.logocoolies.com/bottle-bag-insulator.php laying around the
house - they're vendor give-away insulators and they work perfectly.
Not only do they cinch up tightly around the bottle neck and keep the
bottle from rattling, but they also make the bottle fit the cage more
snugly - less likely to bounce out.


On Mar 14, 12:01 pm, Forrest  wrote:
> For those of you who have used them (or I guess ridden in close
> proximity to them), do the Laken aluminum watter bottles sold by RBW
> tend to rattle in cages such as the King and the Nitto? Or pretty
> solid/silent in those? Thanks.  -- Forrest

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[RBW] Re: Laken aluminum watter bottles rattle in cages?

2011-04-05 Thread LBleriot
I've tried the VO Classic, the VO Moderniste and King cages with
varying degrees of success in securing my Kleen Canteens.  The
Modernistes seem to be the weekest and require a squeeze every now and
again to hold the canteens quietly.  The King cages work the best for
me.

On Mar 14, 1:01 pm, Forrest  wrote:
> For those of you who have used them (or I guess ridden in close
> proximity to them), do the Laken aluminum watter bottles sold by RBW
> tend to rattle in cages such as the King and the Nitto? Or pretty
> solid/silent in those? Thanks.  -- Forrest

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[RBW] Re: Laken aluminum watter bottles rattle in cages?

2011-04-05 Thread EricP
Another vote for the King Iris.  Have them on my Sam Hillborne.

Luckily, my LBS (Hiawatha Cyclery) usually has them in stock.

The inexpensive Planet Bike cages seem to do a good job of holding
Kleen Kanteen bottles without excess noise.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Apr 4, 11:37 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> +1 for the King Iris cages.  Just bought them last week, and very
> happy with them. Work great w/ 23oz metal bottles and are slightly
> bendable.    Good stuff.  FWIW, I got 'em from these guys on 
> ebay:http://tinyurl.com/4xa9cdz
>
> On 4/4/11, Jim Cloud  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Just a personal opinion, but I don't think the Nitto cages are
> > particularly sturdy.  Very handsome, and obviously well made, but not
> > very tough.  I've had two of them on my Riv Road and took them off,
> > after bending one somewhat askew when I shouldered my bike to carry it
> > up some stairs.  At the time, I was using a conventional large size
> > plastic water bottle (not a Klean Kanteen).  I think the larger size
> > of the Kleen Kanteen (27 oz.) would be particularly ill suited for a
> > Nitto cage, although the 18 oz. bottle would probably work
> > sufficiently well.
>
> > At this point, I'm using a classic Specialites T..A. steel water
> > bottle cage, which is sturdy as all git out, and another T.A. cage
> > that was originally marketed for the "Randonneur" aluminum water
> > bottles that T.A. made.  These cages are squarish in configuration,
> > and held the aluminum bottle that was either 750ml or 1000ml in size.
> > The original water bottle had a "Grolsch" beer type cap.  Just by
> > luck, I purchase a couple of Laken Prisma water bottles from REI last
> > year that are virtually the same form factor and have a sport cap,
> > with a capacity of 1000 ml
>
> > Jim Cloud
> > Tucson, AZ
>
> > On Apr 4, 6:24 pm, Eric Norris  wrote:
> >> I had one of those fail, but not as quickly as yours. VO promptly sent me
> >> a replacement, and I haven't had any trouble since then (about a year
> >> ago).
>
> >> During that time, on another bike, a genuine Nitto cage broke. I checked
> >> with Rivendell, and the said it was out of warranty.
>
> >> Bike stuff breaks. Some manufacturers stand behind their stuff better than
> >> others.
>
> >> --Eric N
> >> Sent from the iPad 2
>
> >> On Apr 4, 2011, at 6:00 PM, Benedikt  wrote:
>
> >> > I had two VO Retro Waterbottle cages
> >> >http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/water-bottles-cage...
> >> > and I a weld broke on one within 50 miles.  Granted I may have
> >> > squeezed it a little to much but it seemed pretty flimsy.
>
> >> > I just picked up two King Cage Iris
> >> > cageshttp://www.kingcage.com/assets/img/Cage3.jpg
> >> > and, while I haven't rode with them yet, they look far superior.  Less
> >> > welds.  Stronger looking welds.  Thicker tubing.  They appear to hold
> >> > the Kleen Canteen waterbottles pretty snug and standard plastic
> >> > cycling waterbottles VERY well.
>
> >> > On Mar 14, 10:01 am, Forrest  wrote:
> >> >> For those of you who have used them (or I guess ridden in close
> >> >> proximity to them), do the Laken aluminum watter bottles sold by RBW
> >> >> tend to rattle in cages such as the King and the Nitto? Or pretty
> >> >> solid/silent in those? Thanks.  -- Forrest
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Laken aluminum watter bottles rattle in cages?

2011-04-04 Thread cyclotourist
+1 for the King Iris cages.  Just bought them last week, and very
happy with them. Work great w/ 23oz metal bottles and are slightly
bendable.Good stuff.  FWIW, I got 'em from these guys on ebay:
http://tinyurl.com/4xa9cdz

On 4/4/11, Jim Cloud  wrote:
> Just a personal opinion, but I don't think the Nitto cages are
> particularly sturdy.  Very handsome, and obviously well made, but not
> very tough.  I've had two of them on my Riv Road and took them off,
> after bending one somewhat askew when I shouldered my bike to carry it
> up some stairs.  At the time, I was using a conventional large size
> plastic water bottle (not a Klean Kanteen).  I think the larger size
> of the Kleen Kanteen (27 oz.) would be particularly ill suited for a
> Nitto cage, although the 18 oz. bottle would probably work
> sufficiently well.
>
> At this point, I'm using a classic Specialites T..A. steel water
> bottle cage, which is sturdy as all git out, and another T.A. cage
> that was originally marketed for the "Randonneur" aluminum water
> bottles that T.A. made.  These cages are squarish in configuration,
> and held the aluminum bottle that was either 750ml or 1000ml in size.
> The original water bottle had a "Grolsch" beer type cap.  Just by
> luck, I purchase a couple of Laken Prisma water bottles from REI last
> year that are virtually the same form factor and have a sport cap,
> with a capacity of 1000 ml
>
> Jim Cloud
> Tucson, AZ
>
> On Apr 4, 6:24 pm, Eric Norris  wrote:
>> I had one of those fail, but not as quickly as yours. VO promptly sent me
>> a replacement, and I haven't had any trouble since then (about a year
>> ago).
>>
>> During that time, on another bike, a genuine Nitto cage broke. I checked
>> with Rivendell, and the said it was out of warranty.
>>
>> Bike stuff breaks. Some manufacturers stand behind their stuff better than
>> others.
>>
>> --Eric N
>> Sent from the iPad 2
>>
>> On Apr 4, 2011, at 6:00 PM, Benedikt  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > I had two VO Retro Waterbottle cages
>> >http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/water-bottles-cage...
>> > and I a weld broke on one within 50 miles.  Granted I may have
>> > squeezed it a little to much but it seemed pretty flimsy.
>>
>> > I just picked up two King Cage Iris
>> > cageshttp://www.kingcage.com/assets/img/Cage3.jpg
>> > and, while I haven't rode with them yet, they look far superior.  Less
>> > welds.  Stronger looking welds.  Thicker tubing.  They appear to hold
>> > the Kleen Canteen waterbottles pretty snug and standard plastic
>> > cycling waterbottles VERY well.
>>
>> > On Mar 14, 10:01 am, Forrest  wrote:
>> >> For those of you who have used them (or I guess ridden in close
>> >> proximity to them), do the Laken aluminum watter bottles sold by RBW
>> >> tend to rattle in cages such as the King and the Nitto? Or pretty
>> >> solid/silent in those? Thanks.  -- Forrest
>>
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[RBW] Re: Laken aluminum watter bottles rattle in cages?

2011-04-04 Thread Jim Cloud
Just a personal opinion, but I don't think the Nitto cages are
particularly sturdy.  Very handsome, and obviously well made, but not
very tough.  I've had two of them on my Riv Road and took them off,
after bending one somewhat askew when I shouldered my bike to carry it
up some stairs.  At the time, I was using a conventional large size
plastic water bottle (not a Klean Kanteen).  I think the larger size
of the Kleen Kanteen (27 oz.) would be particularly ill suited for a
Nitto cage, although the 18 oz. bottle would probably work
sufficiently well.

At this point, I'm using a classic Specialites T..A. steel water
bottle cage, which is sturdy as all git out, and another T.A. cage
that was originally marketed for the "Randonneur" aluminum water
bottles that T.A. made.  These cages are squarish in configuration,
and held the aluminum bottle that was either 750ml or 1000ml in size.
The original water bottle had a "Grolsch" beer type cap.  Just by
luck, I purchase a couple of Laken Prisma water bottles from REI last
year that are virtually the same form factor and have a sport cap,
with a capacity of 1000 ml

Jim Cloud
Tucson, AZ

On Apr 4, 6:24 pm, Eric Norris  wrote:
> I had one of those fail, but not as quickly as yours. VO promptly sent me a 
> replacement, and I haven't had any trouble since then (about a year ago).
>
> During that time, on another bike, a genuine Nitto cage broke. I checked with 
> Rivendell, and the said it was out of warranty.
>
> Bike stuff breaks. Some manufacturers stand behind their stuff better than 
> others.
>
> --Eric N
> Sent from the iPad 2
>
> On Apr 4, 2011, at 6:00 PM, Benedikt  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > I had two VO Retro Waterbottle cages
> >http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/water-bottles-cage...
> > and I a weld broke on one within 50 miles.  Granted I may have
> > squeezed it a little to much but it seemed pretty flimsy.
>
> > I just picked up two King Cage Iris 
> > cageshttp://www.kingcage.com/assets/img/Cage3.jpg
> > and, while I haven't rode with them yet, they look far superior.  Less
> > welds.  Stronger looking welds.  Thicker tubing.  They appear to hold
> > the Kleen Canteen waterbottles pretty snug and standard plastic
> > cycling waterbottles VERY well.
>
> > On Mar 14, 10:01 am, Forrest  wrote:
> >> For those of you who have used them (or I guess ridden in close
> >> proximity to them), do the Laken aluminum watter bottles sold by RBW
> >> tend to rattle in cages such as the King and the Nitto? Or pretty
> >> solid/silent in those? Thanks.  -- Forrest
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Laken aluminum watter bottles rattle in cages?

2011-04-04 Thread Eric Norris
I had one of those fail, but not as quickly as yours. VO promptly sent me a 
replacement, and I haven't had any trouble since then (about a year ago).

During that time, on another bike, a genuine Nitto cage broke. I checked with 
Rivendell, and the said it was out of warranty.

Bike stuff breaks. Some manufacturers stand behind their stuff better than 
others.

--Eric N
Sent from the iPad 2

On Apr 4, 2011, at 6:00 PM, Benedikt  wrote:

> I had two VO Retro Waterbottle cages
> http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/water-bottles-cages/vo-retro-cage-type-i-no-hook.html
> and I a weld broke on one within 50 miles.  Granted I may have
> squeezed it a little to much but it seemed pretty flimsy.
> 
> I just picked up two King Cage Iris cages 
> http://www.kingcage.com/assets/img/Cage3.jpg
> and, while I haven't rode with them yet, they look far superior.  Less
> welds.  Stronger looking welds.  Thicker tubing.  They appear to hold
> the Kleen Canteen waterbottles pretty snug and standard plastic
> cycling waterbottles VERY well.
> 
> On Mar 14, 10:01 am, Forrest  wrote:
>> For those of you who have used them (or I guess ridden in close
>> proximity to them), do the Laken aluminum watter bottles sold by RBW
>> tend to rattle in cages such as the King and the Nitto? Or pretty
>> solid/silent in those? Thanks.  -- Forrest
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[RBW] Re: Laken aluminum watter bottles rattle in cages?

2011-04-04 Thread Benedikt
I had two VO Retro Waterbottle cages
http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/water-bottles-cages/vo-retro-cage-type-i-no-hook.html
and I a weld broke on one within 50 miles.  Granted I may have
squeezed it a little to much but it seemed pretty flimsy.

I just picked up two King Cage Iris cages 
http://www.kingcage.com/assets/img/Cage3.jpg
and, while I haven't rode with them yet, they look far superior.  Less
welds.  Stronger looking welds.  Thicker tubing.  They appear to hold
the Kleen Canteen waterbottles pretty snug and standard plastic
cycling waterbottles VERY well.

On Mar 14, 10:01 am, Forrest  wrote:
> For those of you who have used them (or I guess ridden in close
> proximity to them), do the Laken aluminum watter bottles sold by RBW
> tend to rattle in cages such as the King and the Nitto? Or pretty
> solid/silent in those? Thanks.  -- Forrest

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Re: [RBW] Re: Laken aluminum watter bottles rattle in cages?

2011-03-14 Thread PATRICK MOORE
For the record: I broke three Nitto butterfly cages after relatively few
miles holding 28 oz Eleven Gear thermos (= double wall) water bottles, and
they were designed for regular bike cages. King Iris cages are far more
secure and, for that matter, far more quiet.

Point of this mss: Nitto cages aren't up to all metal bottles.

On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Brad Gantt  wrote:

> I have both types cages and the Laken bottles are silent in each. The Kings
> are super solid, even off-road.
>
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[RBW] Re: Laken aluminum watter bottles rattle in cages?

2011-03-14 Thread Brad Gantt
I have both types cages and the Laken bottles are silent in each. The Kings 
are super solid, even off-road.

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