[RBW] Re: Lanky 'Lantis Thought Thread on the FB

2018-04-16 Thread Lester Lammers
About 10-12 years ago I was looking for a roadish bike with fatter tires. 
There weren't many. I stumbled on the Rivendell site, read a bit and took a 
chance on a Bleriot. Many smiling miles for sure. 

Grant and company have no doubt been pioneers. The new MIT frame 
direction should allow them to get more bikes to more people in less time. 
A smart move business wise. I had my doubts about the new long chainstays 
until I tried them. Another big smile. I hope they sell a lot of them.

I'm sure the 53 MIT Atlantis will be my go to ride until I can't balance 
myself on two wheels.


On Monday, April 16, 2018 at 12:33:25 AM UTC-4, iamkeith wrote:
>
> Thanks for posting.  I've never followed anything on facebook too closely 
> (even before the current dust-up), so I wouldn't have seen this.  I thought 
> that page was more about pictures than conversations.  From a quick read, 
> it didn't sound too inflammatory or troll-ish, thankfully.  Mostly a bunch 
> of hand wringing over such crucial things as:
>
> *"Should the new Atlantis have been called something else because it is 
> built in Taiwan and has a sloped top tube, in order to avoid 'diluting' the 
> brand?,"* and  
>
> *"I suspect that long chainstays will be a liability in singletrack... 
> even though I've never tried them."*
>
> All pretty benign in the grand scheme of things, and I suspect that the 
> reason most people comment is because they actually care about Rivendell.  
>  Some are just less aware of how critical sounding their comments actually 
> come across.   Others are just curious.
>
> I've been thinking recently about how vocal I myself have been on this 
> forum over the years, about frustrations over how a particular model was 
> not  made in my size, or in saying that *"if only it had X feature, then 
> Rivendell's Y product would be perfect." * I'm not sure my intentions or 
> good will are always clear.  So what's funny about the new Atlantis is that 
> it has now evolved into the EXACT bike I've been screaming about, and it 
> rectifies every criticism, and it eliminates every excuse I've ever had for 
> not getting one:  Because of the sloped top tube, there is now a size that 
> fits me;  I can afford it;  It has a better, more nimble wheel size for my 
> intended use;  It eliminates toe clip overlap;  It will be less twitchy and 
> more stable.  Put that frame together with the forthcoming new "wider 
> albatross" bar that I and others endlessly whine about wanting, and Riv 
> basically just released my dream bike at a non-custom price.
>
> So for everyone who laments the changes, there's probably someone else 
> like me who couldn't be happier, and who will actually spend their money.  
> Whoever posted that collage on the other thread, about the Porsche 911 
> chronology,  said it perfectly in so many words.  Remember how people 
> freaked out when it became liquid cooled?!  Bottom line was that the car 
> remained geared toward a specific type of driving, and toward a specific 
> type of customer.   The fact that the Atlantis continues to evolve and 
> innovate is precisely what makes it the timeless classic that it is.   What 
> would be silly is NOT changing it up once in a while.
>

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[RBW] Re: Lanky 'Lantis Thought Thread on the FB

2018-04-15 Thread iamkeith
Thanks for posting.  I've never followed anything on facebook too closely 
(even before the current dust-up), so I wouldn't have seen this.  I thought 
that page was more about pictures than conversations.  From a quick read, 
it didn't sound too inflammatory or troll-ish, thankfully.  Mostly a bunch 
of hand wringing over such crucial things as:

*"Should the new Atlantis have been called something else because it is 
built in Taiwan and has a sloped top tube, in order to avoid 'diluting' the 
brand?,"* and  

*"I suspect that long chainstays will be a liability in singletrack... even 
though I've never tried them."*

All pretty benign in the grand scheme of things, and I suspect that the 
reason most people comment is because they actually care about Rivendell.  
 Some are just less aware of how critical sounding their comments actually 
come across.   Others are just curious.

I've been thinking recently about how vocal I myself have been on this 
forum over the years, about frustrations over how a particular model was 
not  made in my size, or in saying that *"if only it had X feature, then 
Rivendell's Y product would be perfect." * I'm not sure my intentions or 
good will are always clear.  So what's funny about the new Atlantis is that 
it has now evolved into the EXACT bike I've been screaming about, and it 
rectifies every criticism, and it eliminates every excuse I've ever had for 
not getting one:  Because of the sloped top tube, there is now a size that 
fits me;  I can afford it;  It has a better, more nimble wheel size for my 
intended use;  It eliminates toe clip overlap;  It will be less twitchy and 
more stable.  Put that frame together with the forthcoming new "wider 
albatross" bar that I and others endlessly whine about wanting, and Riv 
basically just released my dream bike at a non-custom price.

So for everyone who laments the changes, there's probably someone else like 
me who couldn't be happier, and who will actually spend their money.  
Whoever posted that collage on the other thread, about the Porsche 911 
chronology,  said it perfectly in so many words.  Remember how people 
freaked out when it became liquid cooled?!  Bottom line was that the car 
remained geared toward a specific type of driving, and toward a specific 
type of customer.   The fact that the Atlantis continues to evolve and 
innovate is precisely what makes it the timeless classic that it is.   What 
would be silly is NOT changing it up once in a while.

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