[RBW] Re: Latest Atlantis update

[Lungimsam]

Upright bars for slow riding ?
Try telling that to Freddie Hoffman:
18mph average speeds on his 100lb. steeds, over 1-2 million miles, according to 
the rivarticle i read, iirc.

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[RBW] Re: Latest Atlantis update

[Lungimsam]

Hands behind steering  axis:

With Albatross bars and 8(?) cm stem at max height on my Sam the steering felt 
just as good as with drops with 8 cm stem. Smooth and stable.
Standing climbing holding the bar ends on the grips was same. Excellent control 
and leverage.
Never used a longer stem though. Some people use those really long stems. 
Theyll jave to chime in.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Latest Atlantis update

[Ryan Fleming]

Hi Rene,

Yes, those   Berthoud mudflaps are  robust, I grant you that

On Tuesday, March 1, 2016 at 4:44:29 PM UTC-6, René wrote:
>
> Thanks Ryan!
>
> On the Atlantis I'm actually using a Brooks leather mudflap because I had 
> it and like it in brown. On the Hunqapillar, I actually had the Berthoud in 
> black; it's even thicker and larger than the Brooks. Fit well with the 60mm 
> Berthoud fenders I had on it, but I think it's overkill. The Brooks are 
> actually very nice and a bit lighter. They also fit better on 50mm and 
> under fenders. Haven't tried them on Honjos, though, I wonder if they're 
> still too heavy for the lighter aluminum fenders. I saw the Honjo mudguards 
> at NAHBS, but haven't been able to find them; they're smaller and much 
> lighter, although only come in black and not real leather.
>
> René 
>

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[RBW] Re: Latest Atlantis update

[WETH]

Rene,
I just installed a set of Diacompe Guidonnet levers on the Albatross bars 
on my Atlantis.  So far only one commute with them.  I will give an update 
after a few more rides with them.
Erl

On Tuesday, March 1, 2016 at 9:40:49 PM UTC-5, René wrote:
>
> I thought about it, but I think it would look very crowded. I don't really 
> need to brake from the flats, as ,y hands typically go on the bends and I 
> can easily reach the levers with my ring and pinky fingers with a small 
> shift. The new inverted shape and stem extension make it even easier than 
> before, as I only extend my reach when pedaling hard when I don't need to 
> brake. For more maneuvering or situations when I may need to brake, my 
> hands naturally go a bit rearward of the bends where they reach the levers 
> effortlessly. Since that position is still ahead of the steering axis, the 
> handling is not affected negatively like it was a bit more before this 
> change. 
>
> I did think about putting Diacompe Guidonnet levers and ordered a set, but 
> will hold off from doing that change at this time. It just rides so well as 
> it is now... Maybe when it's time to retape the bars, or I get fidgety 
> about it... ;-)
>
> On Monday, February 29, 2016, BSWP  
> wrote:
>
>> Rene, have you ever used interrupter levers? To my eye, your cockpit 
>> would perfection if you could also brake while up on the flats. I might try 
>> something similar on the QuickBeam, though with a shorter extension. Thanks 
>> for sharing the update.
>>
>> - Andrew, Berkeley
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[RBW] Re: Latest Atlantis update

[Daniel Jackson]

I read with interest your short comment about hands being either in front 
of or behind the steering axis. Would someone (and Rene too) expand on this 
variable of handling? What effect does it have?

Thanks all.

On Tuesday, March 1, 2016 at 9:40:49 PM UTC-5, René wrote:
>
> I thought about it, but I think it would look very crowded. I don't really 
> need to brake from the flats, as ,y hands typically go on the bends and I 
> can easily reach the levers with my ring and pinky fingers with a small 
> shift. The new inverted shape and stem extension make it even easier than 
> before, as I only extend my reach when pedaling hard when I don't need to 
> brake. For more maneuvering or situations when I may need to brake, my 
> hands naturally go a bit rearward of the bends where they reach the levers 
> effortlessly. Since that position is still ahead of the steering axis, the 
> handling is not affected negatively like it was a bit more before this 
> change. 
>
> I did think about putting Diacompe Guidonnet levers and ordered a set, but 
> will hold off from doing that change at this time. It just rides so well as 
> it is now... Maybe when it's time to retape the bars, or I get fidgety 
> about it... ;-)
>
> On Monday, February 29, 2016, BSWP  
> wrote:
>
>> Rene, have you ever used interrupter levers? To my eye, your cockpit 
>> would perfection if you could also brake while up on the flats. I might try 
>> something similar on the QuickBeam, though with a shorter extension. Thanks 
>> for sharing the update.
>>
>> - Andrew, Berkeley
>>
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[RBW] Re: Latest Atlantis update

[René Sterental]

Thanks Dennis!

On Tuesday, March 1, 2016, Dennis Hogan  wrote:

> Just "WOW!"
> Dennis in PDX
>
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[RBW] Re: Latest Atlantis update

[Dennis Hogan]

Just "WOW!"
Dennis in PDX

On Tuesday, March 1, 2016 at 6:11:41 PM UTC-8, René wrote:
>
> Ha ha ha ha! That's right!
>
> When I had the new low trail fork made, it had to be painted. I debated 
> for months on what color to have it repainted, but finally realized that 
> there just was no better color for the Atlantis than its own original 
> color. Wanting me to somehow still personalize it, Rick, RBW's local 
> painter suggested the panels and I loved the idea. I got my personalized 
> look while keeping the original color. 
>
> Here are some new photos taken today on my evening commute showing the 
> loaded bike: 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/25425670565/in/album-72157625129486363/
>  
> - click to the right.
>
> René 
>
> On Tuesday, March 1, 2016, Bill Lindsay  
> wrote:
>
>> The only Atlantis that has downtube white panels is the one that you pay 
>> to get custom painted that way.  Rene did that on his own dime long after 
>> he acquired it.  
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 1, 2016 at 2:55:08 PM UTC-8, Lungimsam wrote:
>>>
>>> Gorgeous!
>>> But what edition of Atlantis is this that has the white (collegiate?) 
>>> tubes under the decals? Never seen that before.
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Latest Atlantis update

[René Sterental]

I thought about it, but I think it would look very crowded. I don't really
need to brake from the flats, as ,y hands typically go on the bends and I
can easily reach the levers with my ring and pinky fingers with a small
shift. The new inverted shape and stem extension make it even easier than
before, as I only extend my reach when pedaling hard when I don't need to
brake. For more maneuvering or situations when I may need to brake, my
hands naturally go a bit rearward of the bends where they reach the levers
effortlessly. Since that position is still ahead of the steering axis, the
handling is not affected negatively like it was a bit more before this
change.

I did think about putting Diacompe Guidonnet levers and ordered a set, but
will hold off from doing that change at this time. It just rides so well as
it is now... Maybe when it's time to retape the bars, or I get fidgety
about it... ;-)

On Monday, February 29, 2016, BSWP  wrote:

> Rene, have you ever used interrupter levers? To my eye, your cockpit would
> perfection if you could also brake while up on the flats. I might try
> something similar on the QuickBeam, though with a shorter extension. Thanks
> for sharing the update.
>
> - Andrew, Berkeley
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[RBW] Re: Latest Atlantis update

[WETH]

Gorgeous! Absolutely stunning!

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[RBW] Re: Latest Atlantis update

[René Sterental]

Ha ha ha ha! That's right!

When I had the new low trail fork made, it had to be painted. I debated for
months on what color to have it repainted, but finally realized that there
just was no better color for the Atlantis than its own original color.
Wanting me to somehow still personalize it, Rick, RBW's local painter
suggested the panels and I loved the idea. I got my personalized look while
keeping the original color.

Here are some new photos taken today on my evening commute showing the
loaded bike:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/25425670565/in/album-72157625129486363/
- click to the right.

René

On Tuesday, March 1, 2016, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> The only Atlantis that has downtube white panels is the one that you pay
> to get custom painted that way.  Rene did that on his own dime long after
> he acquired it.
>
> On Tuesday, March 1, 2016 at 2:55:08 PM UTC-8, Lungimsam wrote:
>>
>> Gorgeous!
>> But what edition of Atlantis is this that has the white (collegiate?)
>> tubes under the decals? Never seen that before.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Latest Atlantis update

[Bill Lindsay]

The only Atlantis that has downtube white panels is the one that you pay to 
get custom painted that way.  Rene did that on his own dime long after he 
acquired it.  

On Tuesday, March 1, 2016 at 2:55:08 PM UTC-8, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> Gorgeous!
> But what edition of Atlantis is this that has the white (collegiate?) 
> tubes under the decals? Never seen that before.
>

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[RBW] Re: Latest Atlantis update

[Lungimsam]

Gorgeous!
But what edition of Atlantis is this that has the white (collegiate?) tubes 
under the decals? Never seen that before.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Latest Atlantis update

[René Sterental]

Thanks Ryan!

On the Atlantis I'm actually using a Brooks leather mudflap because I had
it and like it in brown. On the Hunqapillar, I actually had the Berthoud in
black; it's even thicker and larger than the Brooks. Fit well with the 60mm
Berthoud fenders I had on it, but I think it's overkill. The Brooks are
actually very nice and a bit lighter. They also fit better on 50mm and
under fenders. Haven't tried them on Honjos, though, I wonder if they're
still too heavy for the lighter aluminum fenders. I saw the Honjo mudguards
at NAHBS, but haven't been able to find them; they're smaller and much
lighter, although only come in black and not real leather.

René

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Re: [RBW] Re: Latest Atlantis update

[Ryan Fleming]

That is one of the nicest Atlanti I've seen. I do like the look of those 
bars, too and the reverse levers look intriguing, I have to sayhmmm. 
Anyway, sounds like it rides as good as it looks!

And the Berthoud fenders are  very classy...Mark R in Winnipegif you 
search the archives, somebody posted a site with a ridiculously low 
price...although for us Canucks..not so much of a bargain. The  Berthoud 
mudflaps are a classy touch tooreally good quality leather as I recall. 
I have them on my A/R. I have another set for the my Riv road...they were 
Christmas gifts. Rene, it looks like you are using the Berthoud mudflaps as 
well

On Tuesday, March 1, 2016 at 10:23:22 AM UTC-6, René wrote:
>
> Thank you all for the compliments! 
>
> Third ride this morning on the new setup, the full 15.5 miles to work 
> commute. I like the setup more and more, and may actually not even try 
> putting the dropbars yet. The reversed bar does make it ergonomically more 
> comfortable, and it was already comfortable before. Like Grant says, 3% 
> ergonomic improvement by reversing the bars! 
>
> I don't know if it's the extra 1cm stem or the purely front load, but now, 
> when I have my hands on the ends of the bar when riding upright, they are 
> about level or just slightly behind the steerer axis and the control is 
> significantly improved. Before, especially when turning at speed, it would 
> feel a bit awkward, but now if feels smooth and controlled.
>
> Mark, I do have a custom low trail fork. You can search the list for my 
> long posts on the story. :-)
>
> I'll post more photos of the loaded bike on this evening's commute.
>
> René 
>
> On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 8:04 AM, Mark Reimer  > wrote:
>
>> Beauty!! What a fantastic looking Atlantis...
>>
>> From my personal experience, I noticed an improvement in handling with 
>> the campee rack mounted on the lower eyelettes behind the axle. I haven't 
>> been able to actually use them for a while though, for the same reasons as 
>> you. There just isn't room with a fender. But I did have room with the 
>> Barlow Pass and VO 50mm fenders. It's always puzzled me that the campee 
>> doesn't have a fender mount. I've been considering handing the rack to a 
>> friend to braze one on, but then I'd have the issue of replating it or 
>> something. Gets expensive quickly. 
>>
>> Also those Berthoud fenders look SO good. My VO fenders are getting 
>> pretty beat and I've considered adding new ones. What size are they? I see 
>> they come up to 60mm, which makes me wonder if you could squeeze Schwalbe 
>> super moto's under them. 
>>
>> I'm late to the party...do you have a custom fork here? 
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 1, 2016 at 8:58:22 AM UTC-6, JohnS wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Rene,
>>>
>>> Nice build! I've used inverse brake levers on a couple of bikes now and 
>>> really liked them since I still can reach them with my pinkies if needed. I 
>>> plan to use a pair with mustache bars in the near future, just need time 
>>> and maybe a new stem to make the conversion.
>>>
>>> JohnS
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 5:53:55 PM UTC-5, René wrote:
>>>
 Hi all,

 My Atlantis just got it's latest makeover that to me, makes it finally 
 perfect! Well, I may still try to put the Compass Randonneur bars with a 
 5cm stem on to see what it feels like (marvelous on the Homer), but aside 
 from that, it's now the way I always dreamt it.

 I installed the Berthoud 50mm fenders but used Honjo stays because I 
 lost the Berthoud stays. The honjo stays are definitely more elegant, but 
 take a bit more room. Gave the fenders maximum clearance so I can fit the 
 new Soma 42mm SL tires (made by Panaracer) which I'm hoping to compare 
 with 
 the wonderful 38mm Barlow Pass. 

 After last week's dreadful shimmy experience with the rear load that 
 was pushed behind the rear axle by the rack, I decided to go for the front 
 and rear Nitto Campee racks that have the removable low riders. I'd always 
 loved their look, so finally went for it. I installed them yesterday 
 (Sunday) and I was marveled at how well they make the bike look. So 
 elegant! I installed the front lowriders only (for now) and set it up with 
 my old Acorn tan Rando bag plus a pair of Brooks Norfolk panniers where my 
 laptop fits perfectly inside its thick padded sleeve.

 Last, for the final ergonomic improvement, I swapped my 11cm stem for a 
 12cm and reversed the Compass Elysees handlebars. The fit is now much 
 better, I guess that now I'm naturally extending a bit more as I'm riding 
 faster, and it seems more comfortable and efficient. I'm feeling very 
 tempted to give the Compass Randonneur bars a chance on the Atlantis, as I 
 love them on the Homer, but on the other hand, I love how the Elysees bar 
 look and personalize it, so we'll see. I retaped the bars with 

[RBW] Re: Latest Atlantis update

[Mark Reimer]

Beauty!! What a fantastic looking Atlantis...

>From my personal experience, I noticed an improvement in handling with the 
campee rack mounted on the lower eyelettes behind the axle. I haven't been 
able to actually use them for a while though, for the same reasons as you. 
There just isn't room with a fender. But I did have room with the Barlow 
Pass and VO 50mm fenders. It's always puzzled me that the campee doesn't 
have a fender mount. I've been considering handing the rack to a friend to 
braze one on, but then I'd have the issue of replating it or something. 
Gets expensive quickly. 

Also those Berthoud fenders look SO good. My VO fenders are getting pretty 
beat and I've considered adding new ones. What size are they? I see they 
come up to 60mm, which makes me wonder if you could squeeze Schwalbe super 
moto's under them. 

I'm late to the party...do you have a custom fork here? 

On Tuesday, March 1, 2016 at 8:58:22 AM UTC-6, JohnS wrote:
>
> Hello Rene,
>
> Nice build! I've used inverse brake levers on a couple of bikes now and 
> really liked them since I still can reach them with my pinkies if needed. I 
> plan to use a pair with mustache bars in the near future, just need time 
> and maybe a new stem to make the conversion.
>
> JohnS
>
>
> On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 5:53:55 PM UTC-5, René wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> My Atlantis just got it's latest makeover that to me, makes it finally 
>> perfect! Well, I may still try to put the Compass Randonneur bars with a 
>> 5cm stem on to see what it feels like (marvelous on the Homer), but aside 
>> from that, it's now the way I always dreamt it.
>>
>> I installed the Berthoud 50mm fenders but used Honjo stays because I lost 
>> the Berthoud stays. The honjo stays are definitely more elegant, but take a 
>> bit more room. Gave the fenders maximum clearance so I can fit the new Soma 
>> 42mm SL tires (made by Panaracer) which I'm hoping to compare with the 
>> wonderful 38mm Barlow Pass. 
>>
>> After last week's dreadful shimmy experience with the rear load that was 
>> pushed behind the rear axle by the rack, I decided to go for the front and 
>> rear Nitto Campee racks that have the removable low riders. I'd always 
>> loved their look, so finally went for it. I installed them yesterday 
>> (Sunday) and I was marveled at how well they make the bike look. So 
>> elegant! I installed the front lowriders only (for now) and set it up with 
>> my old Acorn tan Rando bag plus a pair of Brooks Norfolk panniers where my 
>> laptop fits perfectly inside its thick padded sleeve.
>>
>> Last, for the final ergonomic improvement, I swapped my 11cm stem for a 
>> 12cm and reversed the Compass Elysees handlebars. The fit is now much 
>> better, I guess that now I'm naturally extending a bit more as I'm riding 
>> faster, and it seems more comfortable and efficient. I'm feeling very 
>> tempted to give the Compass Randonneur bars a chance on the Atlantis, as I 
>> love them on the Homer, but on the other hand, I love how the Elysees bar 
>> look and personalize it, so we'll see. I retaped the bars with Brooks 
>> Cambium tape, and have to say that this second time I did a much better job 
>> than the first time, when the tape felt very unwieldy. 
>>
>> As it stands now, I feel my Atlantis is 99% perfect. I love how it rides, 
>> I love how it looks, and I love how it makes me feel when I ride it. Riding 
>> it with just the front load really takes advantage of its low trail fork 
>> and the handling is just magical.
>>
>> I'm still adding a fender tailight and when I get to try the 42mm Soma SL 
>> tires I'll report on how they compare with the Compass 38 BP.
>>
>> Pictures prove the bike is indeed a dream come true: 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/25260813432/in/album-72157625129486363/
>>  
>> (click to the right for more images)
>>
>> René 
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Latest Atlantis update

[René Sterental]

Thank you all for the compliments!

Third ride this morning on the new setup, the full 15.5 miles to work
commute. I like the setup more and more, and may actually not even try
putting the dropbars yet. The reversed bar does make it ergonomically more
comfortable, and it was already comfortable before. Like Grant says, 3%
ergonomic improvement by reversing the bars!

I don't know if it's the extra 1cm stem or the purely front load, but now,
when I have my hands on the ends of the bar when riding upright, they are
about level or just slightly behind the steerer axis and the control is
significantly improved. Before, especially when turning at speed, it would
feel a bit awkward, but now if feels smooth and controlled.

Mark, I do have a custom low trail fork. You can search the list for my
long posts on the story. :-)

I'll post more photos of the loaded bike on this evening's commute.

René

On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 8:04 AM, Mark Reimer  wrote:

> Beauty!! What a fantastic looking Atlantis...
>
> From my personal experience, I noticed an improvement in handling with the
> campee rack mounted on the lower eyelettes behind the axle. I haven't been
> able to actually use them for a while though, for the same reasons as you.
> There just isn't room with a fender. But I did have room with the Barlow
> Pass and VO 50mm fenders. It's always puzzled me that the campee doesn't
> have a fender mount. I've been considering handing the rack to a friend to
> braze one on, but then I'd have the issue of replating it or something.
> Gets expensive quickly.
>
> Also those Berthoud fenders look SO good. My VO fenders are getting pretty
> beat and I've considered adding new ones. What size are they? I see they
> come up to 60mm, which makes me wonder if you could squeeze Schwalbe super
> moto's under them.
>
> I'm late to the party...do you have a custom fork here?
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 1, 2016 at 8:58:22 AM UTC-6, JohnS wrote:
>>
>> Hello Rene,
>>
>> Nice build! I've used inverse brake levers on a couple of bikes now and
>> really liked them since I still can reach them with my pinkies if needed. I
>> plan to use a pair with mustache bars in the near future, just need time
>> and maybe a new stem to make the conversion.
>>
>> JohnS
>>
>>
>> On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 5:53:55 PM UTC-5, René wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> My Atlantis just got it's latest makeover that to me, makes it finally
>>> perfect! Well, I may still try to put the Compass Randonneur bars with a
>>> 5cm stem on to see what it feels like (marvelous on the Homer), but aside
>>> from that, it's now the way I always dreamt it.
>>>
>>> I installed the Berthoud 50mm fenders but used Honjo stays because I
>>> lost the Berthoud stays. The honjo stays are definitely more elegant, but
>>> take a bit more room. Gave the fenders maximum clearance so I can fit the
>>> new Soma 42mm SL tires (made by Panaracer) which I'm hoping to compare with
>>> the wonderful 38mm Barlow Pass.
>>>
>>> After last week's dreadful shimmy experience with the rear load that was
>>> pushed behind the rear axle by the rack, I decided to go for the front and
>>> rear Nitto Campee racks that have the removable low riders. I'd always
>>> loved their look, so finally went for it. I installed them yesterday
>>> (Sunday) and I was marveled at how well they make the bike look. So
>>> elegant! I installed the front lowriders only (for now) and set it up with
>>> my old Acorn tan Rando bag plus a pair of Brooks Norfolk panniers where my
>>> laptop fits perfectly inside its thick padded sleeve.
>>>
>>> Last, for the final ergonomic improvement, I swapped my 11cm stem for a
>>> 12cm and reversed the Compass Elysees handlebars. The fit is now much
>>> better, I guess that now I'm naturally extending a bit more as I'm riding
>>> faster, and it seems more comfortable and efficient. I'm feeling very
>>> tempted to give the Compass Randonneur bars a chance on the Atlantis, as I
>>> love them on the Homer, but on the other hand, I love how the Elysees bar
>>> look and personalize it, so we'll see. I retaped the bars with Brooks
>>> Cambium tape, and have to say that this second time I did a much better job
>>> than the first time, when the tape felt very unwieldy.
>>>
>>> As it stands now, I feel my Atlantis is 99% perfect. I love how it
>>> rides, I love how it looks, and I love how it makes me feel when I ride it.
>>> Riding it with just the front load really takes advantage of its low trail
>>> fork and the handling is just magical.
>>>
>>> I'm still adding a fender tailight and when I get to try the 42mm Soma
>>> SL tires I'll report on how they compare with the Compass 38 BP.
>>>
>>> Pictures prove the bike is indeed a dream come true:
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/25260813432/in/album-72157625129486363/
>>> (click to the right for more images)
>>>
>>> René
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Latest Atlantis update

[Hugh Smitham]

René,

I don't throw these out often, but your Atlantis is a rockstar!! Just 
gorgeous and the attention to detail is phenomenal. 

~Hugh

On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 2:53:55 PM UTC-8, René wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> My Atlantis just got it's latest makeover that to me, makes it finally 
> perfect! Well, I may still try to put the Compass Randonneur bars with a 
> 5cm stem on to see what it feels like (marvelous on the Homer), but aside 
> from that, it's now the way I always dreamt it.
>
> I installed the Berthoud 50mm fenders but used Honjo stays because I lost 
> the Berthoud stays. The honjo stays are definitely more elegant, but take a 
> bit more room. Gave the fenders maximum clearance so I can fit the new Soma 
> 42mm SL tires (made by Panaracer) which I'm hoping to compare with the 
> wonderful 38mm Barlow Pass. 
>
> After last week's dreadful shimmy experience with the rear load that was 
> pushed behind the rear axle by the rack, I decided to go for the front and 
> rear Nitto Campee racks that have the removable low riders. I'd always 
> loved their look, so finally went for it. I installed them yesterday 
> (Sunday) and I was marveled at how well they make the bike look. So 
> elegant! I installed the front lowriders only (for now) and set it up with 
> my old Acorn tan Rando bag plus a pair of Brooks Norfolk panniers where my 
> laptop fits perfectly inside its thick padded sleeve.
>
> Last, for the final ergonomic improvement, I swapped my 11cm stem for a 
> 12cm and reversed the Compass Elysees handlebars. The fit is now much 
> better, I guess that now I'm naturally extending a bit more as I'm riding 
> faster, and it seems more comfortable and efficient. I'm feeling very 
> tempted to give the Compass Randonneur bars a chance on the Atlantis, as I 
> love them on the Homer, but on the other hand, I love how the Elysees bar 
> look and personalize it, so we'll see. I retaped the bars with Brooks 
> Cambium tape, and have to say that this second time I did a much better job 
> than the first time, when the tape felt very unwieldy. 
>
> As it stands now, I feel my Atlantis is 99% perfect. I love how it rides, 
> I love how it looks, and I love how it makes me feel when I ride it. Riding 
> it with just the front load really takes advantage of its low trail fork 
> and the handling is just magical.
>
> I'm still adding a fender tailight and when I get to try the 42mm Soma SL 
> tires I'll report on how they compare with the Compass 38 BP.
>
> Pictures prove the bike is indeed a dream come true: 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/25260813432/in/album-72157625129486363/
>  
> (click to the right for more images)
>
> René 
>

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[RBW] Re: Latest Atlantis update

[JohnS]

Hello Rene,

Nice build! I've used inverse brake levers on a couple of bikes now and 
really liked them since I still can reach them with my pinkies if needed. I 
plan to use a pair with mustache bars in the near future, just need time 
and maybe a new stem to make the conversion.

JohnS


On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 5:53:55 PM UTC-5, René wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> My Atlantis just got it's latest makeover that to me, makes it finally 
> perfect! Well, I may still try to put the Compass Randonneur bars with a 
> 5cm stem on to see what it feels like (marvelous on the Homer), but aside 
> from that, it's now the way I always dreamt it.
>
> I installed the Berthoud 50mm fenders but used Honjo stays because I lost 
> the Berthoud stays. The honjo stays are definitely more elegant, but take a 
> bit more room. Gave the fenders maximum clearance so I can fit the new Soma 
> 42mm SL tires (made by Panaracer) which I'm hoping to compare with the 
> wonderful 38mm Barlow Pass. 
>
> After last week's dreadful shimmy experience with the rear load that was 
> pushed behind the rear axle by the rack, I decided to go for the front and 
> rear Nitto Campee racks that have the removable low riders. I'd always 
> loved their look, so finally went for it. I installed them yesterday 
> (Sunday) and I was marveled at how well they make the bike look. So 
> elegant! I installed the front lowriders only (for now) and set it up with 
> my old Acorn tan Rando bag plus a pair of Brooks Norfolk panniers where my 
> laptop fits perfectly inside its thick padded sleeve.
>
> Last, for the final ergonomic improvement, I swapped my 11cm stem for a 
> 12cm and reversed the Compass Elysees handlebars. The fit is now much 
> better, I guess that now I'm naturally extending a bit more as I'm riding 
> faster, and it seems more comfortable and efficient. I'm feeling very 
> tempted to give the Compass Randonneur bars a chance on the Atlantis, as I 
> love them on the Homer, but on the other hand, I love how the Elysees bar 
> look and personalize it, so we'll see. I retaped the bars with Brooks 
> Cambium tape, and have to say that this second time I did a much better job 
> than the first time, when the tape felt very unwieldy. 
>
> As it stands now, I feel my Atlantis is 99% perfect. I love how it rides, 
> I love how it looks, and I love how it makes me feel when I ride it. Riding 
> it with just the front load really takes advantage of its low trail fork 
> and the handling is just magical.
>
> I'm still adding a fender tailight and when I get to try the 42mm Soma SL 
> tires I'll report on how they compare with the Compass 38 BP.
>
> Pictures prove the bike is indeed a dream come true: 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/25260813432/in/album-72157625129486363/
>  
> (click to the right for more images)
>
> René 
>

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[RBW] Re: Latest Atlantis update

[Michael Hechmer]

Gorgeous setup Rene.  I'll bet it turns some heads.  I use the same rack 
setup on our tandem and really like it.  I'm also a big fan of DT shifters, 
though for commuting I did prefer something closer at hand.  The bars are 
very elegant and comfortable looking, which tempts me to try them on my 
Saluki, which is what I use to carry stuff these days.  My past experience 
with bars other than drops has not been good.  My buns don't like it, and I 
find that as I raise any bar above the saddle, it gets harder to standup an 
rock the bike over the top of steep risers.

Michael


On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 5:53:55 PM UTC-5, René wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> My Atlantis just got it's latest makeover that to me, makes it finally 
> perfect! Well, I may still try to put the Compass Randonneur bars with a 
> 5cm stem on to see what it feels like (marvelous on the Homer), but aside 
> from that, it's now the way I always dreamt it.
>
> I installed the Berthoud 50mm fenders but used Honjo stays because I lost 
> the Berthoud stays. The honjo stays are definitely more elegant, but take a 
> bit more room. Gave the fenders maximum clearance so I can fit the new Soma 
> 42mm SL tires (made by Panaracer) which I'm hoping to compare with the 
> wonderful 38mm Barlow Pass. 
>
> After last week's dreadful shimmy experience with the rear load that was 
> pushed behind the rear axle by the rack, I decided to go for the front and 
> rear Nitto Campee racks that have the removable low riders. I'd always 
> loved their look, so finally went for it. I installed them yesterday 
> (Sunday) and I was marveled at how well they make the bike look. So 
> elegant! I installed the front lowriders only (for now) and set it up with 
> my old Acorn tan Rando bag plus a pair of Brooks Norfolk panniers where my 
> laptop fits perfectly inside its thick padded sleeve.
>
> Last, for the final ergonomic improvement, I swapped my 11cm stem for a 
> 12cm and reversed the Compass Elysees handlebars. The fit is now much 
> better, I guess that now I'm naturally extending a bit more as I'm riding 
> faster, and it seems more comfortable and efficient. I'm feeling very 
> tempted to give the Compass Randonneur bars a chance on the Atlantis, as I 
> love them on the Homer, but on the other hand, I love how the Elysees bar 
> look and personalize it, so we'll see. I retaped the bars with Brooks 
> Cambium tape, and have to say that this second time I did a much better job 
> than the first time, when the tape felt very unwieldy. 
>
> As it stands now, I feel my Atlantis is 99% perfect. I love how it rides, 
> I love how it looks, and I love how it makes me feel when I ride it. Riding 
> it with just the front load really takes advantage of its low trail fork 
> and the handling is just magical.
>
> I'm still adding a fender tailight and when I get to try the 42mm Soma SL 
> tires I'll report on how they compare with the Compass 38 BP.
>
> Pictures prove the bike is indeed a dream come true: 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/25260813432/in/album-72157625129486363/
>  
> (click to the right for more images)
>
> René 
>

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[RBW] Re: Latest Atlantis update

[René Sterental]

Hi Tim,

Thanks for your comments. I did try the front rack on the lower mounting
tang, but it hits the top of the fender and reduces the clearance. It might
be OK if I reduce the overall clearance for the 38mm tires I currently
have, but I wanted maximum clearance for safety off road and to try to
fit 42mm tires to see how they compare to the 38s, which are magnificent so
far.

If I don't like the 42s, then I may consider readjusting the fender
clearance so the rack moves rearward and lower. I'd still have to check
that they don't touch, even with the fender's vibrations while riding rough
roads, since the rack doesn't have a fender attachment and the fender would
rattle.

It's a minor detail, but good observation!

My rides to work and back today were awesome. The bike feels so different
and fast now, compared to the previous setup. My speeds show it as well as
the fact I find myself pedaling @ 95+ rpm sustainably with no effort. And
the handling... Oh, the handling. It's amazing what the little detail of
reversing the handlebar and extending the reach 1 cm have done, as well as
the new weight distribution.

René

On Monday, February 29, 2016, Tim Wood  wrote:

> Rene, I scanned through your Flickr page and must say, you have/had an
> awesome collection!  Wow.  And all the builds are very clean and classy,
> well done!
>
> Looking at the latest additions to the Atlantis, specifically the front
> campee rack, did you try and line up the lower mounting tang with the rear
> braze on shared with the fender?  It appears it would bring the rack in
> closer to the rider as well as lower it a bit. Maybe there isn't clearance
> around the skewer head.  Not critiquing, just wondering if it would work as
> I have always been interested in that rack.
>
> Nice job!
>
> Tim
>
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[RBW] Re: Latest Atlantis update

[BSWP]

Rene, have you ever used interrupter levers? To my eye, your cockpit would 
perfection if you could also brake while up on the flats. I might try 
something similar on the QuickBeam, though with a shorter extension. Thanks 
for sharing the update.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: Latest Atlantis update

[René Sterental]

Thanks Steve. You are correct.

John, 70mm rake for 40mm of trail.

René

On Monday, February 29, 2016, John Hawrylak 
wrote:

> Rene
>
> What fork rake did you use and what is the geometric trail?
>
> The Atlantis looks very sharp, especially the racks
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
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[RBW] Re: Latest Atlantis update

[John Hawrylak]

Rene

What fork rake did you use and what is the geometric trail?

The Atlantis looks very sharp, especially the racks

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

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