[RBW] Re: Leah Peterson Takes A Stand

[Joe Bernard]

I've had one derailleur bike ever in my life get that right every time and 
that's my Riv Custom. All those  pays for perfectly aligned dropouts. 
I like it! 



On Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 5:29:56 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:

> Watched that also; well done.  Reminds me that I rarely get the wheel in 
> perfectly straight & the brake nearly always drags.  I drop it out of the 
> work stand & re-set the quick release when the rear wheel has weight on 
> it.  The wheel only has to be a tiny bit off at the drop out & that makes 
> the rim way out of position.
>
> dougP
>
> On Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 4:55:58 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>>
>> I saw the video Leah posted of her wheel removal and reinstall - which 
>> she nailed first try - and man oh man this reminds me how much of a bugger 
>> that job is no matter how many times I've done it. I didn't nail it first 
>> try all those years ago! 
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>> On Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 6:50:21 AM UTC-8 Tom Wyland wrote:
>>
>>> Good for you, Leah!  I serviced my first headset and bottom bracket last 
>>> fall.  It felt good.
>>> I have a fender-mounted taillight but always wound the wire under the 
>>> bottom bracket, out the non-driveside chainstay and out the fender 
>>> support.  Aesthetics aside, I never understood the under-fender approach.  
>>> It seems like it it would leave the wire open to damage by rocks or ice 
>>> chunks getting kicked up under the fender.  I guess that's not too 
>>> different from under-bottom bracket damage potential.  
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 9, 2021 at 11:00:09 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 Tomorrow I am doing a new thing because Leah Peterson Took A Stand and 
 now has no excuses. 

 The crappy electrical tape the LBS used to tape my dyno wire under my 
 fender is (predictably) falling off...again. I need to remove the rear 
 wheel, which I have never ever done - and clean the fender (I’m thinking 
 with alcohol) and then try to secure the wire until the good tape arrives 
 from Analog. I’m afraid that this will all go south on me and I will have 
 a 
 unicycle. 

 I’m going to watch like 15 YouTubes tonight. Wish me luck. 

 Darn this new stand,
 Leah 

 On Tuesday, January 26, 2021 at 10:54:26 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:

> I like my Bike Hand stand but it's my first so no point of reference 
> with other stands. I agree it is a pain to work on a bike on the ground. 
> The Bike Hand isn't great at rotating the position of the bike but it 
> holds 
> a heavy bike well.
> Doug
>
> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 10:04:27 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> Ok, that got your attention. 
>>
>> I’m not actually taking a stand so much as BUYING a stand. I have had 
>> it with trying to work on a bike on its kickstand. Tonight I tried to 
>> put 
>> sealant in my tire and the tire deflated and my Clementine tipped over. 
>> Hopping mad...that would be an apt description of me in the garage 
>> tonight. 
>> I’m sick and tired of wrecking my back and fed up with the awkwardness 
>> of 
>> working on a bike that is always threatening to tip over. I’m taking a 
>> stand against not having a stand.
>>
>> I know Rivendell sells a stand but last I checked, it is sold out and 
>> also $$$. Is there anything that makes their stand worth waiting for? 
>>
>> I don’t have many preferences, save two: I don’t want something that 
>> takes up a bunch of room, and I want the clamp to be on the seat post. 
>> (Not 
>> the frame.)
>>
>> You’re the best!
>> Leah
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Leah Peterson Takes A Stand

[dougP]

Watched that also; well done.  Reminds me that I rarely get the wheel in 
perfectly straight & the brake nearly always drags.  I drop it out of the 
work stand & re-set the quick release when the rear wheel has weight on 
it.  The wheel only has to be a tiny bit off at the drop out & that makes 
the rim way out of position.

dougP

On Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 4:55:58 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

>
> I saw the video Leah posted of her wheel removal and reinstall - which she 
> nailed first try - and man oh man this reminds me how much of a bugger that 
> job is no matter how many times I've done it. I didn't nail it first try 
> all those years ago! 
>
> Joe Bernard
> On Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 6:50:21 AM UTC-8 Tom Wyland wrote:
>
>> Good for you, Leah!  I serviced my first headset and bottom bracket last 
>> fall.  It felt good.
>> I have a fender-mounted taillight but always wound the wire under the 
>> bottom bracket, out the non-driveside chainstay and out the fender 
>> support.  Aesthetics aside, I never understood the under-fender approach.  
>> It seems like it it would leave the wire open to damage by rocks or ice 
>> chunks getting kicked up under the fender.  I guess that's not too 
>> different from under-bottom bracket damage potential.  
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 9, 2021 at 11:00:09 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> Tomorrow I am doing a new thing because Leah Peterson Took A Stand and 
>>> now has no excuses. 
>>>
>>> The crappy electrical tape the LBS used to tape my dyno wire under my 
>>> fender is (predictably) falling off...again. I need to remove the rear 
>>> wheel, which I have never ever done - and clean the fender (I’m thinking 
>>> with alcohol) and then try to secure the wire until the good tape arrives 
>>> from Analog. I’m afraid that this will all go south on me and I will have a 
>>> unicycle. 
>>>
>>> I’m going to watch like 15 YouTubes tonight. Wish me luck. 
>>>
>>> Darn this new stand,
>>> Leah 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 26, 2021 at 10:54:26 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 I like my Bike Hand stand but it's my first so no point of reference 
 with other stands. I agree it is a pain to work on a bike on the ground. 
 The Bike Hand isn't great at rotating the position of the bike but it 
 holds 
 a heavy bike well.
 Doug

 On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 10:04:27 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

> Ok, that got your attention. 
>
> I’m not actually taking a stand so much as BUYING a stand. I have had 
> it with trying to work on a bike on its kickstand. Tonight I tried to put 
> sealant in my tire and the tire deflated and my Clementine tipped over. 
> Hopping mad...that would be an apt description of me in the garage 
> tonight. 
> I’m sick and tired of wrecking my back and fed up with the awkwardness of 
> working on a bike that is always threatening to tip over. I’m taking a 
> stand against not having a stand.
>
> I know Rivendell sells a stand but last I checked, it is sold out and 
> also $$$. Is there anything that makes their stand worth waiting for? 
>
> I don’t have many preferences, save two: I don’t want something that 
> takes up a bunch of room, and I want the clamp to be on the seat post. 
> (Not 
> the frame.)
>
> You’re the best!
> Leah
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Leah Peterson Takes A Stand

[Joe Bernard]

I saw the video Leah posted of her wheel removal and reinstall - which she 
nailed first try - and man oh man this reminds me how much of a bugger that 
job is no matter how many times I've done it. I didn't nail it first try 
all those years ago! 

Joe Bernard
On Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 6:50:21 AM UTC-8 Tom Wyland wrote:

> Good for you, Leah!  I serviced my first headset and bottom bracket last 
> fall.  It felt good.
> I have a fender-mounted taillight but always wound the wire under the 
> bottom bracket, out the non-driveside chainstay and out the fender 
> support.  Aesthetics aside, I never understood the under-fender approach.  
> It seems like it it would leave the wire open to damage by rocks or ice 
> chunks getting kicked up under the fender.  I guess that's not too 
> different from under-bottom bracket damage potential.  
>
> On Tuesday, February 9, 2021 at 11:00:09 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Tomorrow I am doing a new thing because Leah Peterson Took A Stand and 
>> now has no excuses. 
>>
>> The crappy electrical tape the LBS used to tape my dyno wire under my 
>> fender is (predictably) falling off...again. I need to remove the rear 
>> wheel, which I have never ever done - and clean the fender (I’m thinking 
>> with alcohol) and then try to secure the wire until the good tape arrives 
>> from Analog. I’m afraid that this will all go south on me and I will have a 
>> unicycle. 
>>
>> I’m going to watch like 15 YouTubes tonight. Wish me luck. 
>>
>> Darn this new stand,
>> Leah 
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 26, 2021 at 10:54:26 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> I like my Bike Hand stand but it's my first so no point of reference 
>>> with other stands. I agree it is a pain to work on a bike on the ground. 
>>> The Bike Hand isn't great at rotating the position of the bike but it holds 
>>> a heavy bike well.
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 10:04:27 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 Ok, that got your attention. 

 I’m not actually taking a stand so much as BUYING a stand. I have had 
 it with trying to work on a bike on its kickstand. Tonight I tried to put 
 sealant in my tire and the tire deflated and my Clementine tipped over. 
 Hopping mad...that would be an apt description of me in the garage 
 tonight. 
 I’m sick and tired of wrecking my back and fed up with the awkwardness of 
 working on a bike that is always threatening to tip over. I’m taking a 
 stand against not having a stand.

 I know Rivendell sells a stand but last I checked, it is sold out and 
 also $$$. Is there anything that makes their stand worth waiting for? 

 I don’t have many preferences, save two: I don’t want something that 
 takes up a bunch of room, and I want the clamp to be on the seat post. 
 (Not 
 the frame.)

 You’re the best!
 Leah




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[RBW] Re: Leah Peterson Takes A Stand

[Tom Wyland]

Good for you, Leah!  I serviced my first headset and bottom bracket last 
fall.  It felt good.
I have a fender-mounted taillight but always wound the wire under the 
bottom bracket, out the non-driveside chainstay and out the fender 
support.  Aesthetics aside, I never understood the under-fender approach.  
It seems like it it would leave the wire open to damage by rocks or ice 
chunks getting kicked up under the fender.  I guess that's not too 
different from under-bottom bracket damage potential.  

On Tuesday, February 9, 2021 at 11:00:09 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Tomorrow I am doing a new thing because Leah Peterson Took A Stand and now 
> has no excuses. 
>
> The crappy electrical tape the LBS used to tape my dyno wire under my 
> fender is (predictably) falling off...again. I need to remove the rear 
> wheel, which I have never ever done - and clean the fender (I’m thinking 
> with alcohol) and then try to secure the wire until the good tape arrives 
> from Analog. I’m afraid that this will all go south on me and I will have a 
> unicycle. 
>
> I’m going to watch like 15 YouTubes tonight. Wish me luck. 
>
> Darn this new stand,
> Leah 
>
> On Tuesday, January 26, 2021 at 10:54:26 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> I like my Bike Hand stand but it's my first so no point of reference with 
>> other stands. I agree it is a pain to work on a bike on the ground. The 
>> Bike Hand isn't great at rotating the position of the bike but it holds a 
>> heavy bike well.
>> Doug
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 10:04:27 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, that got your attention. 
>>>
>>> I’m not actually taking a stand so much as BUYING a stand. I have had it 
>>> with trying to work on a bike on its kickstand. Tonight I tried to put 
>>> sealant in my tire and the tire deflated and my Clementine tipped over. 
>>> Hopping mad...that would be an apt description of me in the garage tonight. 
>>> I’m sick and tired of wrecking my back and fed up with the awkwardness of 
>>> working on a bike that is always threatening to tip over. I’m taking a 
>>> stand against not having a stand.
>>>
>>> I know Rivendell sells a stand but last I checked, it is sold out and 
>>> also $$$. Is there anything that makes their stand worth waiting for? 
>>>
>>> I don’t have many preferences, save two: I don’t want something that 
>>> takes up a bunch of room, and I want the clamp to be on the seat post. (Not 
>>> the frame.)
>>>
>>> You’re the best!
>>> Leah
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Leah Peterson Takes A Stand

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Tomorrow I am doing a new thing because Leah Peterson Took A Stand and now 
has no excuses. 

The crappy electrical tape the LBS used to tape my dyno wire under my 
fender is (predictably) falling off...again. I need to remove the rear 
wheel, which I have never ever done - and clean the fender (I’m thinking 
with alcohol) and then try to secure the wire until the good tape arrives 
from Analog. I’m afraid that this will all go south on me and I will have a 
unicycle. 

I’m going to watch like 15 YouTubes tonight. Wish me luck. 

Darn this new stand,
Leah 

On Tuesday, January 26, 2021 at 10:54:26 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:

> I like my Bike Hand stand but it's my first so no point of reference with 
> other stands. I agree it is a pain to work on a bike on the ground. The 
> Bike Hand isn't great at rotating the position of the bike but it holds a 
> heavy bike well.
> Doug
>
> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 10:04:27 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Ok, that got your attention. 
>>
>> I’m not actually taking a stand so much as BUYING a stand. I have had it 
>> with trying to work on a bike on its kickstand. Tonight I tried to put 
>> sealant in my tire and the tire deflated and my Clementine tipped over. 
>> Hopping mad...that would be an apt description of me in the garage tonight. 
>> I’m sick and tired of wrecking my back and fed up with the awkwardness of 
>> working on a bike that is always threatening to tip over. I’m taking a 
>> stand against not having a stand.
>>
>> I know Rivendell sells a stand but last I checked, it is sold out and 
>> also $$$. Is there anything that makes their stand worth waiting for? 
>>
>> I don’t have many preferences, save two: I don’t want something that 
>> takes up a bunch of room, and I want the clamp to be on the seat post. (Not 
>> the frame.)
>>
>> You’re the best!
>> Leah
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Leah Peterson Takes A Stand

[Doug H.]

I like my Bike Hand stand but it's my first so no point of reference with 
other stands. I agree it is a pain to work on a bike on the ground. The 
Bike Hand isn't great at rotating the position of the bike but it holds a 
heavy bike well.
Doug

On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 10:04:27 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Ok, that got your attention. 
>
> I’m not actually taking a stand so much as BUYING a stand. I have had it 
> with trying to work on a bike on its kickstand. Tonight I tried to put 
> sealant in my tire and the tire deflated and my Clementine tipped over. 
> Hopping mad...that would be an apt description of me in the garage tonight. 
> I’m sick and tired of wrecking my back and fed up with the awkwardness of 
> working on a bike that is always threatening to tip over. I’m taking a 
> stand against not having a stand.
>
> I know Rivendell sells a stand but last I checked, it is sold out and also 
> $$$. Is there anything that makes their stand worth waiting for? 
>
> I don’t have many preferences, save two: I don’t want something that takes 
> up a bunch of room, and I want the clamp to be on the seat post. (Not the 
> frame.)
>
> You’re the best!
> Leah
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Leah Peterson Takes A Stand

[Roberta]

Linda, That is a GREAT idea!

Bruce, Currently I put my bike on my car's bike carrier, which is a "hang 
it from the tube" type vs "tires in the tray type."  Is this what you mean 
(George's question)?

Aeroperf, I'll probably be getting the one you recommend because I'm tired 
of fixing my car in the parking lot.   I won't be a heavy duty user.

Roberta



On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 11:49:16 AM UTC-5 Linda G wrote:

> Ana,
> I'm sure you are not the only one who has difficulty manipulating a 25 
> (or more) pound bike with one hand while working a seatpost clamp with the 
> other. I can do it but my back does not like it. I have an older Ultimate 
> Support  stand with a clamp that is at a fixed height but it does rotate. I 
> turn over a tall plastic bucket and place it under where the front wheel 
> will be when it is in the stand. Then I place the front wheel of the bike 
> on the bucket and lift the rear of the bike up to the clamp and tighten it. 
> Then I take out the bucket and rotate the clamp to level the bike. When I'm 
> done working I rotate it again so that the front wheel is at bucket height. 
> It's not a perfect system but it does make the lifting easier and stabilize 
> the bike while I work the clamp .
> Linda
>
> On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 8:00:58 AM UTC-8 Ana Candela wrote:
>
>> Hi Leah,
>>
>> I am currently selling my two bike stands: one is the one Riv sells 
>> (about 2 years old); the other, a Feedback mid range model (about 6-8 years 
>> old?). I'm selling them locally because shipping would be a downside (I 
>> would think at least $40),  but I'm open to negotiation. They're both 
>> great, but I'm selling because I need a third hand to set my bike on them, 
>> and that's something you may want to consider when getting a. stand, 
>> whatever model you choose. I can't carry my bike with one hand while 
>> affixing the clamp with the other. I've hurt my bike and myself in the 
>> process, and I'm looking for a different kind of stand, but apparently it 
>> doesn't exist yet, unless I want a huge hydraulic stand for e-bikes. Why 
>> can't they make a version of a car/moped jack for bikes? Way cheaper and 
>> even way less cumbersome.
>>
>> Anyway, if you're interested, I can send pics.
>>
>> -Ana
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 7:04:27 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, that got your attention. 
>>>
>>> I’m not actually taking a stand so much as BUYING a stand. I have had it 
>>> with trying to work on a bike on its kickstand. Tonight I tried to put 
>>> sealant in my tire and the tire deflated and my Clementine tipped over. 
>>> Hopping mad...that would be an apt description of me in the garage tonight. 
>>> I’m sick and tired of wrecking my back and fed up with the awkwardness of 
>>> working on a bike that is always threatening to tip over. I’m taking a 
>>> stand against not having a stand.
>>>
>>> I know Rivendell sells a stand but last I checked, it is sold out and 
>>> also $$$. Is there anything that makes their stand worth waiting for? 
>>>
>>> I don’t have many preferences, save two: I don’t want something that 
>>> takes up a bunch of room, and I want the clamp to be on the seat post. (Not 
>>> the frame.)
>>>
>>> You’re the best!
>>> Leah
>>>
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Leah Peterson Takes A Stand

[George Schick]

Bruce - a "rack bar"?  Not sure what you mean.  Got a pic?  This might help 
solve the problem that a number of posters on this thread are having.
TX, George


On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 2:29:00 PM UTC-6 Fullylugged wrote:

> George:
>
>  I got a rack bar to carry my wife’s step through bike on our car trunk 
> rack.  It also works great. To put her bike in my stand, acting like a top 
> tube.  Under $20 iirc.
>
> Bruce
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jan 25, 2021, at 11:44 AM, George Schick  wrote:
>
> Yes, that's true - I have a problem lifting bikes like that, too.  If I'm 
> working on one of my road bikes it's not as much of an issue because I 
> clamp around the top tube and all I have to do is lift the bike up onto the 
> clamp.  But if I'm doing maintenance on the dual-boinger Trek MTB literally 
> the only place it can be clamped is around the seat post.  I have a Park 
> PCS-4 work stand so I can easily lift the upper part of it out of the lower 
> support, which enables me to place the clamp around the seat post and 
> adjust it to the right amount of tension.  Then, I put it back, swivel the 
> clamp around so it's pointed down at an angle where I'm lifting the bike up 
> with the front wheel still on the ground in order to clamp the post. 
>  Having done that, I can lift the front of the bike with one hand and 
> swivel it back toward level and tighten the swivel clamp with the other. 
>  It's still a PITA, though, compared to clamping around the top tube.
>
>
>
> On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 10:49:16 AM UTC-6 Linda G wrote:
>
>> Ana,
>> I'm sure you are not the only one who has difficulty manipulating a 
>> 25 (or more) pound bike with one hand while working a seatpost clamp with 
>> the other. I can do it but my back does not like it. I have an older 
>> Ultimate Support  stand with a clamp that is at a fixed height but it does 
>> rotate. I turn over a tall plastic bucket and place it under where the 
>> front wheel will be when it is in the stand. Then I place the front wheel 
>> of the bike on the bucket and lift the rear of the bike up to the clamp and 
>> tighten it. Then I take out the bucket and rotate the clamp to level the 
>> bike. When I'm done working I rotate it again so that the front wheel is at 
>> bucket height. It's not a perfect system but it does make the lifting 
>> easier and stabilize the bike while I work the clamp .
>> Linda
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 8:00:58 AM UTC-8 Ana Candela wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Leah,
>>>
>>> I am currently selling my two bike stands: one is the one Riv sells 
>>> (about 2 years old); the other, a Feedback mid range model (about 6-8 years 
>>> old?). I'm selling them locally because shipping would be a downside (I 
>>> would think at least $40),  but I'm open to negotiation. They're both 
>>> great, but I'm selling because I need a third hand to set my bike on them, 
>>> and that's something you may want to consider when getting a. stand, 
>>> whatever model you choose. I can't carry my bike with one hand while 
>>> affixing the clamp with the other. I've hurt my bike and myself in the 
>>> process, and I'm looking for a different kind of stand, but apparently it 
>>> doesn't exist yet, unless I want a huge hydraulic stand for e-bikes. Why 
>>> can't they make a version of a car/moped jack for bikes? Way cheaper and 
>>> even way less cumbersome.
>>>
>>> Anyway, if you're interested, I can send pics.
>>>
>>> -Ana
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 7:04:27 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 Ok, that got your attention. 

 I’m not actually taking a stand so much as BUYING a stand. I have had 
 it with trying to work on a bike on its kickstand. Tonight I tried to put 
 sealant in my tire and the tire deflated and my Clementine tipped over. 
 Hopping mad...that would be an apt description of me in the garage 
 tonight. 
 I’m sick and tired of wrecking my back and fed up with the awkwardness of 
 working on a bike that is always threatening to tip over. I’m taking a 
 stand against not having a stand.

 I know Rivendell sells a stand but last I checked, it is sold out and 
 also $$$. Is there anything that makes their stand worth waiting for? 

 I don’t have many preferences, save two: I don’t want something that 
 takes up a bunch of room, and I want the clamp to be on the seat post. 
 (Not 
 the frame.)

 You’re the best!
 Leah


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Re: [RBW] Re: Leah Peterson Takes A Stand

[Bruce Herbitter]

George:

 I got a rack bar to carry my wife’s step through bike on our car trunk rack.  
It also works great. To put her bike in my stand, acting like a top tube.  
Under $20 iirc.

Bruce

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> On Jan 25, 2021, at 11:44 AM, George Schick  wrote:
> 
> Yes, that's true - I have a problem lifting bikes like that, too.  If I'm 
> working on one of my road bikes it's not as much of an issue because I clamp 
> around the top tube and all I have to do is lift the bike up onto the clamp.  
> But if I'm doing maintenance on the dual-boinger Trek MTB literally the only 
> place it can be clamped is around the seat post.  I have a Park PCS-4 work 
> stand so I can easily lift the upper part of it out of the lower support, 
> which enables me to place the clamp around the seat post and adjust it to the 
> right amount of tension.  Then, I put it back, swivel the clamp around so 
> it's pointed down at an angle where I'm lifting the bike up with the front 
> wheel still on the ground in order to clamp the post.  Having done that, I 
> can lift the front of the bike with one hand and swivel it back toward level 
> and tighten the swivel clamp with the other.  It's still a PITA, though, 
> compared to clamping around the top tube.
> 
> 
>> On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 10:49:16 AM UTC-6 Linda G wrote:
>> Ana,
>> I'm sure you are not the only one who has difficulty manipulating a 25 
>> (or more) pound bike with one hand while working a seatpost clamp with the 
>> other. I can do it but my back does not like it. I have an older Ultimate 
>> Support  stand with a clamp that is at a fixed height but it does rotate. I 
>> turn over a tall plastic bucket and place it under where the front wheel 
>> will be when it is in the stand. Then I place the front wheel of the bike on 
>> the bucket and lift the rear of the bike up to the clamp and tighten it. 
>> Then I take out the bucket and rotate the clamp to level the bike. When I'm 
>> done working I rotate it again so that the front wheel is at bucket height. 
>> It's not a perfect system but it does make the lifting easier and stabilize 
>> the bike while I work the clamp .
>> Linda
>> 
>>> On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 8:00:58 AM UTC-8 Ana Candela wrote:
>>> Hi Leah,
>>> 
>>> I am currently selling my two bike stands: one is the one Riv sells (about 
>>> 2 years old); the other, a Feedback mid range model (about 6-8 years old?). 
>>> I'm selling them locally because shipping would be a downside (I would 
>>> think at least $40),  but I'm open to negotiation. They're both great, but 
>>> I'm selling because I need a third hand to set my bike on them, and that's 
>>> something you may want to consider when getting a. stand, whatever model 
>>> you choose. I can't carry my bike with one hand while affixing the clamp 
>>> with the other. I've hurt my bike and myself in the process, and I'm 
>>> looking for a different kind of stand, but apparently it doesn't exist yet, 
>>> unless I want a huge hydraulic stand for e-bikes. Why can't they make a 
>>> version of a car/moped jack for bikes? Way cheaper and even way less 
>>> cumbersome.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, if you're interested, I can send pics.
>>> 
>>> -Ana
>>> 
 On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 7:04:27 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:
 Ok, that got your attention. 
 
 I’m not actually taking a stand so much as BUYING a stand. I have had it 
 with trying to work on a bike on its kickstand. Tonight I tried to put 
 sealant in my tire and the tire deflated and my Clementine tipped over. 
 Hopping mad...that would be an apt description of me in the garage 
 tonight. I’m sick and tired of wrecking my back and fed up with the 
 awkwardness of working on a bike that is always threatening to tip over. 
 I’m taking a stand against not having a stand.
 
 I know Rivendell sells a stand but last I checked, it is sold out and also 
 $$$. Is there anything that makes their stand worth waiting for? 
 
 I don’t have many preferences, save two: I don’t want something that takes 
 up a bunch of room, and I want the clamp to be on the seat post. (Not the 
 frame.)
 
 You’re the best!
 Leah
 
 
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[RBW] Re: Leah Peterson Takes A Stand

[George Schick]

Yes, that's true - I have a problem lifting bikes like that, too.  If I'm 
working on one of my road bikes it's not as much of an issue because I 
clamp around the top tube and all I have to do is lift the bike up onto the 
clamp.  But if I'm doing maintenance on the dual-boinger Trek MTB literally 
the only place it can be clamped is around the seat post.  I have a Park 
PCS-4 work stand so I can easily lift the upper part of it out of the lower 
support, which enables me to place the clamp around the seat post and 
adjust it to the right amount of tension.  Then, I put it back, swivel the 
clamp around so it's pointed down at an angle where I'm lifting the bike up 
with the front wheel still on the ground in order to clamp the post. 
 Having done that, I can lift the front of the bike with one hand and 
swivel it back toward level and tighten the swivel clamp with the other. 
 It's still a PITA, though, compared to clamping around the top tube.


On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 10:49:16 AM UTC-6 Linda G wrote:

> Ana,
> I'm sure you are not the only one who has difficulty manipulating a 25 
> (or more) pound bike with one hand while working a seatpost clamp with the 
> other. I can do it but my back does not like it. I have an older Ultimate 
> Support  stand with a clamp that is at a fixed height but it does rotate. I 
> turn over a tall plastic bucket and place it under where the front wheel 
> will be when it is in the stand. Then I place the front wheel of the bike 
> on the bucket and lift the rear of the bike up to the clamp and tighten it. 
> Then I take out the bucket and rotate the clamp to level the bike. When I'm 
> done working I rotate it again so that the front wheel is at bucket height. 
> It's not a perfect system but it does make the lifting easier and stabilize 
> the bike while I work the clamp .
> Linda
>
> On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 8:00:58 AM UTC-8 Ana Candela wrote:
>
>> Hi Leah,
>>
>> I am currently selling my two bike stands: one is the one Riv sells 
>> (about 2 years old); the other, a Feedback mid range model (about 6-8 years 
>> old?). I'm selling them locally because shipping would be a downside (I 
>> would think at least $40),  but I'm open to negotiation. They're both 
>> great, but I'm selling because I need a third hand to set my bike on them, 
>> and that's something you may want to consider when getting a. stand, 
>> whatever model you choose. I can't carry my bike with one hand while 
>> affixing the clamp with the other. I've hurt my bike and myself in the 
>> process, and I'm looking for a different kind of stand, but apparently it 
>> doesn't exist yet, unless I want a huge hydraulic stand for e-bikes. Why 
>> can't they make a version of a car/moped jack for bikes? Way cheaper and 
>> even way less cumbersome.
>>
>> Anyway, if you're interested, I can send pics.
>>
>> -Ana
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 7:04:27 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, that got your attention. 
>>>
>>> I’m not actually taking a stand so much as BUYING a stand. I have had it 
>>> with trying to work on a bike on its kickstand. Tonight I tried to put 
>>> sealant in my tire and the tire deflated and my Clementine tipped over. 
>>> Hopping mad...that would be an apt description of me in the garage tonight. 
>>> I’m sick and tired of wrecking my back and fed up with the awkwardness of 
>>> working on a bike that is always threatening to tip over. I’m taking a 
>>> stand against not having a stand.
>>>
>>> I know Rivendell sells a stand but last I checked, it is sold out and 
>>> also $$$. Is there anything that makes their stand worth waiting for? 
>>>
>>> I don’t have many preferences, save two: I don’t want something that 
>>> takes up a bunch of room, and I want the clamp to be on the seat post. (Not 
>>> the frame.)
>>>
>>> You’re the best!
>>> Leah
>>>
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Leah Peterson Takes A Stand

[masmojo]

Leah, I know I'm a day late, et al. . . . .
But, in case someone else has this same issue, I also have an older version 
of the Minoura Stand (mine is steel & not nearly as easily collapsible, but 
it works very well
The new fancy one below is aluminum and folds down more completely.
https://www.amazon.com/Minoura-bike-repair-stand-RS-5000/dp/B000OYJFR6/ref=sr_1_13?dchild=1=CjwKCAiA9bmABhBbEiwASb35V6jasRtw1wNF1G8QForOXtL5afpVY0jSx1vRcne7uXfaw_o8zhfVvBoC8XYQAvD_BwE=174217916055=c=9026840=g=e=4273509292444638979=kwd-1967002148=9382_9621520=minoura+bike+stand=1611595330=8-13=googhydr-20

In all actuality I am pretty sure I chose the less portable Steel one on 
purpose for 3 reasons: it was cheaper, I didn't plan on moving it around 
too much, and because it was heavier, I envisaged it to be more stable.

True a park shop stand would be my ideal, but sort of a road block, speed 
bump, hurdle when not being used



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[RBW] Re: Leah Peterson Takes A Stand

[Linda G]

Ana,
I'm sure you are not the only one who has difficulty manipulating a 25 
(or more) pound bike with one hand while working a seatpost clamp with the 
other. I can do it but my back does not like it. I have an older Ultimate 
Support  stand with a clamp that is at a fixed height but it does rotate. I 
turn over a tall plastic bucket and place it under where the front wheel 
will be when it is in the stand. Then I place the front wheel of the bike 
on the bucket and lift the rear of the bike up to the clamp and tighten it. 
Then I take out the bucket and rotate the clamp to level the bike. When I'm 
done working I rotate it again so that the front wheel is at bucket height. 
It's not a perfect system but it does make the lifting easier and stabilize 
the bike while I work the clamp .
Linda

On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 8:00:58 AM UTC-8 Ana Candela wrote:

> Hi Leah,
>
> I am currently selling my two bike stands: one is the one Riv sells (about 
> 2 years old); the other, a Feedback mid range model (about 6-8 years old?). 
> I'm selling them locally because shipping would be a downside (I would 
> think at least $40),  but I'm open to negotiation. They're both great, but 
> I'm selling because I need a third hand to set my bike on them, and that's 
> something you may want to consider when getting a. stand, whatever model 
> you choose. I can't carry my bike with one hand while affixing the clamp 
> with the other. I've hurt my bike and myself in the process, and I'm 
> looking for a different kind of stand, but apparently it doesn't exist yet, 
> unless I want a huge hydraulic stand for e-bikes. Why can't they make a 
> version of a car/moped jack for bikes? Way cheaper and even way less 
> cumbersome.
>
> Anyway, if you're interested, I can send pics.
>
> -Ana
>
> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 7:04:27 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Ok, that got your attention. 
>>
>> I’m not actually taking a stand so much as BUYING a stand. I have had it 
>> with trying to work on a bike on its kickstand. Tonight I tried to put 
>> sealant in my tire and the tire deflated and my Clementine tipped over. 
>> Hopping mad...that would be an apt description of me in the garage tonight. 
>> I’m sick and tired of wrecking my back and fed up with the awkwardness of 
>> working on a bike that is always threatening to tip over. I’m taking a 
>> stand against not having a stand.
>>
>> I know Rivendell sells a stand but last I checked, it is sold out and 
>> also $$$. Is there anything that makes their stand worth waiting for? 
>>
>> I don’t have many preferences, save two: I don’t want something that 
>> takes up a bunch of room, and I want the clamp to be on the seat post. (Not 
>> the frame.)
>>
>> You’re the best!
>> Leah
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Leah Peterson Takes A Stand

[dougP]

I also used to do the eye bolt & strap set-up.  Simple & no storage 
issues.  My wife called it "bicycles in bondage".  

The downside to this is the bicycle swinging side to side as you work on 
it.  I'm now a firm believer in work stands.

dougP

On Thursday, January 21, 2021 at 1:17:09 AM UTC-8 Nick Payne wrote:

> I have the same Feedback Sports stand that someone else has mentioned, and 
> I use it sometimes and it works well, but my preferred method of working on 
> bikes is to hang them from a pair of widely spaced ropes fastened to 
> eyebolts in the wall each side of my garage:
>
> [image: IMG_20190403_073415.jpg]
>
> Nick
>
> On Wednesday, 20 January 2021 at 2:04:27 pm UTC+11 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> Ok, that got your attention. 
>>
>> I’m not actually taking a stand so much as BUYING a stand. I have had it 
>> with trying to work on a bike on its kickstand. Tonight I tried to put 
>> sealant in my tire and the tire deflated and my Clementine tipped over. 
>> Hopping mad...that would be an apt description of me in the garage tonight. 
>> I’m sick and tired of wrecking my back and fed up with the awkwardness of 
>> working on a bike that is always threatening to tip over. I’m taking a 
>> stand against not having a stand.
>>
>> I know Rivendell sells a stand but last I checked, it is sold out and 
>> also $$$. Is there anything that makes their stand worth waiting for? 
>>
>> I don’t have many preferences, save two: I don’t want something that 
>> takes up a bunch of room, and I want the clamp to be on the seat post. (Not 
>> the frame.)
>>
>> You’re the best!
>> Leah
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Leah Peterson Takes A Stand

[Leah Peterson]

Joe - thanks. I figure why put off the inevitable. I needed sealant, time to 
stop dreading and start doing.

Ben - for heaven’s sake go get a stand! I can’t imagine you doing all that 
maintenance upside down and backwards! Your back!!! And then report back here. 
You will be in heaven, and you deserve this more than I do with my limited 
capabilities. Think of the gas money, time and labor fees you will save since 
you won’t be tempted to haul your bike to the shop. Yes, this one’s easy.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 21, 2021, at 4:35 AM, Ben Mihovk  wrote:
> 
> I'm inspired to take a stand as well, Leah. I've always worked on my bikes 
> "Pasadena style" and I hate it because everything's flipped backwards, I have 
> a tendency to drop tools (and one of them took a healthy chip out of the 
> paint on the underside of my top tube/head tube lug), and it's hard to test 
> shifting with inboard thumbies when the bike is upside down, and sitting on 
> the ground to work on my bike KILLS my back. I haven't done a deep clean/lube 
> on my drivetrain yet...and I"m just dreading doing it with the bike upside 
> down. I've been tempted to take the Atlantis to a bike shop to have them do a 
> full tune up when winter is over here. I'm thinking you have inspired me to 
> take that money and put it towards a stand instead.
> 
> Ben 
> 
>> On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 4:39:00 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>> Thank you so much, everyone! I’m set, and it feels so good.
>> 
>> I went to REI today and got the Feedback Sports Sport Mechanic Repair 
>> Stand. It’s quality, as best I can tell. Got home, ripped it out of the box 
>> and set it up so do a tubeless sealant refresh. This was what went 
>> disastrously for me yesterday, because Leah Peterson had not taken a stand. 
>> But today...today was a great day.
>> 
>> I made a video of my sealant refresh so you can see the 99 things I 
>> certainly did wrong. It won’t go through here, but you can see it on IG or 
>> I’ll email you if you want.
>> Warmly,
>> Leah
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jan 20, 2021, at 11:31 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
 
>>> Available from Rene Herse 
>> 
>>> https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/tools/nitto-bike-stand/
>>> 
> On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 1:53:44 PM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:
> I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Nitto C2 display stand. Riv used 
> to sell it (or something similar). Gets the back end elevated. Doesn't 
> solve the problem of getting your bike up to a comfortable working 
> height, though. 
> 
> Here it is in a page from Catalog No. 6, Spring-Summer 2000. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 11:22:39 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>> Efficient Velo Tools makes a stand with a pulley and counterweight that 
>> allows you to put the clamp on the bike while it is on the floor, then 
>> raise it. Down sides - $2750, eight month wait, and NOT portable. 
>> 
>> https://www.efficientvelo.com/tools/ez-lift-repair-stand
>> 
>> I want one, but will have to "make do" with the Park Shop Stand. 
>> Previously, I worked on bikes on the floor or one of these for over 40 
>> years .
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Laing
>> 
>>> On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 11:00:58 AM UTC-5 Ana Candela wrote:
>>> Hi Leah,
>>> 
>>> I am currently selling my two bike stands: one is the one Riv sells 
>>> (about 2 years old); the other, a Feedback mid range model (about 6-8 
>>> years old?). I'm selling them locally because shipping would be a 
>>> downside (I would think at least $40),  but I'm open to negotiation. 
>>> They're both great, but I'm selling because I need a third hand to set 
>>> my bike on them, and that's something you may want to consider when 
>>> getting a. stand, whatever model you choose. I can't carry my bike with 
>>> one hand while affixing the clamp with the other. I've hurt my bike and 
>>> myself in the process, and I'm looking for a different kind of stand, 
>>> but apparently it doesn't exist yet, unless I want a huge hydraulic 
>>> stand for e-bikes. Why can't they make a version of a car/moped jack 
>>> for bikes? Way cheaper and even way less cumbersome.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, if you're interested, I can send pics.
>>> 
>>> -Ana
>>> 
 On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 7:04:27 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:
 Ok, that got your attention. 
 
 I’m not actually taking a stand so much as BUYING a stand. I have had 
 it with trying to work on a bike on its kickstand. Tonight I tried to 
 put sealant in my tire and the tire deflated and my Clementine tipped 
 over. Hopping mad...that would be an apt description of me in the 
 garage tonight. I’m sick and tired of wrecking my back and fed up with 

Re: [RBW] Re: Leah Peterson Takes A Stand

[Ben Mihovk]

I'm inspired to take a stand as well, Leah. I've always worked on my bikes 
"Pasadena style" and I hate it because everything's flipped backwards, I 
have a tendency to drop tools (and one of them took a healthy chip out of 
the paint on the underside of my top tube/head tube lug), and it's hard to 
test shifting with inboard thumbies when the bike is upside down, and 
sitting on the ground to work on my bike KILLS my back. I haven't done a 
deep clean/lube on my drivetrain yet...and I"m just dreading doing it with 
the bike upside down. I've been tempted to take the Atlantis to a bike shop 
to have them do a full tune up when winter is over here. I'm thinking you 
have inspired me to take that money and put it towards a stand instead.

Ben 

On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 4:39:00 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Thank you so much, everyone! I’m set, and it feels so good.
>
> I went to REI today and got the Feedback Sports Sport Mechanic Repair 
> Stand. It’s quality, as best I can tell. Got home, ripped it out of the box 
> and set it up so do a tubeless sealant refresh. This was what went 
> disastrously for me yesterday, because Leah Peterson had not taken a stand. 
> But today...today was a great day.
>
> I made a video of my sealant refresh so you can see the 99 things I 
> certainly did wrong. It won’t go through here, but you can see it on IG or 
> I’ll email you if you want.
> Warmly,
> Leah
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 20, 2021, at 11:31 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>
> Available from Rene Herse 
>
> https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/tools/nitto-bike-stand/
>
> On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 1:53:44 PM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:
>
>> I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Nitto C2 display stand. Riv used 
>> to sell it (or something similar). Gets the back end elevated. Doesn't 
>> solve the problem of getting your bike up to a comfortable working height, 
>> though. 
>>
>> Here it is in a page from Catalog No. 6, Spring-Summer 2000. 
>>
>> [image: IMG_2AF05D436B61-1.jpeg]
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 11:22:39 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>>
>>> Efficient Velo Tools makes a stand with a pulley and counterweight that 
>>> allows you to put the clamp on the bike while it is on the floor, then 
>>> raise it. Down sides - $2750, eight month wait, and NOT portable. 
>>>
>>> https://www.efficientvelo.com/tools/ez-lift-repair-stand
>>>
>>> I want one, but will have to "make do" with the Park Shop Stand. 
>>> Previously, I worked on bikes on the floor or one of these for over 40 
>>> years .
>>>
>>> [image: s-l300.jpg]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Laing
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 11:00:58 AM UTC-5 Ana Candela wrote:
>>>
 Hi Leah,

 I am currently selling my two bike stands: one is the one Riv sells 
 (about 2 years old); the other, a Feedback mid range model (about 6-8 
 years 
 old?). I'm selling them locally because shipping would be a downside (I 
 would think at least $40),  but I'm open to negotiation. They're both 
 great, but I'm selling because I need a third hand to set my bike on them, 
 and that's something you may want to consider when getting a. stand, 
 whatever model you choose. I can't carry my bike with one hand while 
 affixing the clamp with the other. I've hurt my bike and myself in the 
 process, and I'm looking for a different kind of stand, but apparently it 
 doesn't exist yet, unless I want a huge hydraulic stand for e-bikes. Why 
 can't they make a version of a car/moped jack for bikes? Way cheaper and 
 even way less cumbersome.

 Anyway, if you're interested, I can send pics.

 -Ana

 On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 7:04:27 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

> Ok, that got your attention. 
>
> I’m not actually taking a stand so much as BUYING a stand. I have had 
> it with trying to work on a bike on its kickstand. Tonight I tried to put 
> sealant in my tire and the tire deflated and my Clementine tipped over. 
> Hopping mad...that would be an apt description of me in the garage 
> tonight. 
> I’m sick and tired of wrecking my back and fed up with the awkwardness of 
> working on a bike that is always threatening to tip over. I’m taking a 
> stand against not having a stand.
>
> I know Rivendell sells a stand but last I checked, it is sold out and 
> also $$$. Is there anything that makes their stand worth waiting for? 
>
> I don’t have many preferences, save two: I don’t want something that 
> takes up a bunch of room, and I want the clamp to be on the seat post. 
> (Not 
> the frame.)
>
> You’re the best!
> Leah
>
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[RBW] Re: Leah Peterson Takes A Stand

[Fullylugged]

Hi Leah:

I have used the Minoura RS-5000 for years.  Similar to the Park, but 
includes a tray that is handy to put tolls and especially small bits you 
remove and need to re install.  The head rotates to clamp a top tube or 
seat post.  When working on a bike like a Clem L, a TT carry bar is very 
handy. That way, you don't have to un do saddle bags or pull out the seat 
post. I also have a little bar that goes in the clamp and lets me hang the 
bike by the saddle, which is very quick and easy for simple things.  There 
is a less expensive saddle only stand too.

https://www.amazon.com/Minoura-bike-repair-stand-RS-5000/dp/B000OYJFR6

http://www.minoura.jp/english/tool/repairstand/hms-10.html

On Thursday, January 21, 2021 at 3:17:09 AM UTC-6 Nick Payne wrote:

> I have the same Feedback Sports stand that someone else has mentioned, and 
> I use it sometimes and it works well, but my preferred method of working on 
> bikes is to hang them from a pair of widely spaced ropes fastened to 
> eyebolts in the wall each side of my garage:
>
> [image: IMG_20190403_073415.jpg]
>
> Nick
>
> On Wednesday, 20 January 2021 at 2:04:27 pm UTC+11 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> Ok, that got your attention. 
>>
>> I’m not actually taking a stand so much as BUYING a stand. I have had it 
>> with trying to work on a bike on its kickstand. Tonight I tried to put 
>> sealant in my tire and the tire deflated and my Clementine tipped over. 
>> Hopping mad...that would be an apt description of me in the garage tonight. 
>> I’m sick and tired of wrecking my back and fed up with the awkwardness of 
>> working on a bike that is always threatening to tip over. I’m taking a 
>> stand against not having a stand.
>>
>> I know Rivendell sells a stand but last I checked, it is sold out and 
>> also $$$. Is there anything that makes their stand worth waiting for? 
>>
>> I don’t have many preferences, save two: I don’t want something that 
>> takes up a bunch of room, and I want the clamp to be on the seat post. (Not 
>> the frame.)
>>
>> You’re the best!
>> Leah
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Leah Peterson Takes A Stand

[Joe Bernard]

Yesterday you didn't have a repair stand or a way to keep air in that tire. 
Today there's a video of you with a repair stand showing people how to 
properly add sealant and air to a tubeless tire. Nice work! 

Joe Bernard 

On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 2:39:00 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Thank you so much, everyone! I’m set, and it feels so good.
>
> I went to REI today and got the Feedback Sports Sport Mechanic Repair 
> Stand. It’s quality, as best I can tell. Got home, ripped it out of the box 
> and set it up so do a tubeless sealant refresh. This was what went 
> disastrously for me yesterday, because Leah Peterson had not taken a stand. 
> But today...today was a great day.
>
> I made a video of my sealant refresh so you can see the 99 things I 
> certainly did wrong. It won’t go through here, but you can see it on IG or 
> I’ll email you if you want.
> Warmly,
> Leah
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 20, 2021, at 11:31 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>
> Available from Rene Herse 
>
> https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/tools/nitto-bike-stand/
>
> On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 1:53:44 PM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:
>
>> I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Nitto C2 display stand. Riv used 
>> to sell it (or something similar). Gets the back end elevated. Doesn't 
>> solve the problem of getting your bike up to a comfortable working height, 
>> though. 
>>
>> Here it is in a page from Catalog No. 6, Spring-Summer 2000. 
>>
>> [image: IMG_2AF05D436B61-1.jpeg]
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 11:22:39 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>>
>>> Efficient Velo Tools makes a stand with a pulley and counterweight that 
>>> allows you to put the clamp on the bike while it is on the floor, then 
>>> raise it. Down sides - $2750, eight month wait, and NOT portable. 
>>>
>>> https://www.efficientvelo.com/tools/ez-lift-repair-stand
>>>
>>> I want one, but will have to "make do" with the Park Shop Stand. 
>>> Previously, I worked on bikes on the floor or one of these for over 40 
>>> years .
>>>
>>> [image: s-l300.jpg]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Laing
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 11:00:58 AM UTC-5 Ana Candela wrote:
>>>
 Hi Leah,

 I am currently selling my two bike stands: one is the one Riv sells 
 (about 2 years old); the other, a Feedback mid range model (about 6-8 
 years 
 old?). I'm selling them locally because shipping would be a downside (I 
 would think at least $40),  but I'm open to negotiation. They're both 
 great, but I'm selling because I need a third hand to set my bike on them, 
 and that's something you may want to consider when getting a. stand, 
 whatever model you choose. I can't carry my bike with one hand while 
 affixing the clamp with the other. I've hurt my bike and myself in the 
 process, and I'm looking for a different kind of stand, but apparently it 
 doesn't exist yet, unless I want a huge hydraulic stand for e-bikes. Why 
 can't they make a version of a car/moped jack for bikes? Way cheaper and 
 even way less cumbersome.

 Anyway, if you're interested, I can send pics.

 -Ana

 On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 7:04:27 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

> Ok, that got your attention. 
>
> I’m not actually taking a stand so much as BUYING a stand. I have had 
> it with trying to work on a bike on its kickstand. Tonight I tried to put 
> sealant in my tire and the tire deflated and my Clementine tipped over. 
> Hopping mad...that would be an apt description of me in the garage 
> tonight. 
> I’m sick and tired of wrecking my back and fed up with the awkwardness of 
> working on a bike that is always threatening to tip over. I’m taking a 
> stand against not having a stand.
>
> I know Rivendell sells a stand but last I checked, it is sold out and 
> also $$$. Is there anything that makes their stand worth waiting for? 
>
> I don’t have many preferences, save two: I don’t want something that 
> takes up a bunch of room, and I want the clamp to be on the seat post. 
> (Not 
> the frame.)
>
> You’re the best!
> Leah
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Leah Peterson Takes A Stand

[Leah Peterson]

Thank you so much, everyone! I’m set, and it feels so good.

I went to REI today and got the Feedback Sports Sport Mechanic Repair Stand. 
It’s quality, as best I can tell. Got home, ripped it out of the box and set it 
up so do a tubeless sealant refresh. This was what went disastrously for me 
yesterday, because Leah Peterson had not taken a stand. But today...today was a 
great day.

I made a video of my sealant refresh so you can see the 99 things I certainly 
did wrong. It won’t go through here, but you can see it on IG or I’ll email you 
if you want.
Warmly,
Leah


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 20, 2021, at 11:31 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
> 
> Available from Rene Herse 
> https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/tools/nitto-bike-stand/
> 
>> On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 1:53:44 PM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:
>> I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Nitto C2 display stand. Riv used to 
>> sell it (or something similar). Gets the back end elevated. Doesn't solve 
>> the problem of getting your bike up to a comfortable working height, though. 
>> 
>> Here it is in a page from Catalog No. 6, Spring-Summer 2000. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 11:22:39 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>>> Efficient Velo Tools makes a stand with a pulley and counterweight that 
>>> allows you to put the clamp on the bike while it is on the floor, then 
>>> raise it. Down sides - $2750, eight month wait, and NOT portable. 
>>> 
>>> https://www.efficientvelo.com/tools/ez-lift-repair-stand
>>> 
>>> I want one, but will have to "make do" with the Park Shop Stand. 
>>> Previously, I worked on bikes on the floor or one of these for over 40 
>>> years .
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Laing
>>> 
 On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 11:00:58 AM UTC-5 Ana Candela wrote:
 Hi Leah,
 
 I am currently selling my two bike stands: one is the one Riv sells (about 
 2 years old); the other, a Feedback mid range model (about 6-8 years 
 old?). I'm selling them locally because shipping would be a downside (I 
 would think at least $40),  but I'm open to negotiation. They're both 
 great, but I'm selling because I need a third hand to set my bike on them, 
 and that's something you may want to consider when getting a. stand, 
 whatever model you choose. I can't carry my bike with one hand while 
 affixing the clamp with the other. I've hurt my bike and myself in the 
 process, and I'm looking for a different kind of stand, but apparently it 
 doesn't exist yet, unless I want a huge hydraulic stand for e-bikes. Why 
 can't they make a version of a car/moped jack for bikes? Way cheaper and 
 even way less cumbersome.
 
 Anyway, if you're interested, I can send pics.
 
 -Ana
 
> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 7:04:27 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
> Ok, that got your attention. 
> 
> I’m not actually taking a stand so much as BUYING a stand. I have had it 
> with trying to work on a bike on its kickstand. Tonight I tried to put 
> sealant in my tire and the tire deflated and my Clementine tipped over. 
> Hopping mad...that would be an apt description of me in the garage 
> tonight. I’m sick and tired of wrecking my back and fed up with the 
> awkwardness of working on a bike that is always threatening to tip over. 
> I’m taking a stand against not having a stand.
> 
> I know Rivendell sells a stand but last I checked, it is sold out and 
> also $$$. Is there anything that makes their stand worth waiting for? 
> 
> I don’t have many preferences, save two: I don’t want something that 
> takes up a bunch of room, and I want the clamp to be on the seat post. 
> (Not the frame.)
> 
> You’re the best!
> Leah
> 
> 
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[RBW] Re: Leah Peterson Takes A Stand

[Eric Marth]

Available from Rene Herse 
https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/tools/nitto-bike-stand/

On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 1:53:44 PM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:

> I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Nitto C2 display stand. Riv used to 
> sell it (or something similar). Gets the back end elevated. Doesn't solve 
> the problem of getting your bike up to a comfortable working height, 
> though. 
>
> Here it is in a page from Catalog No. 6, Spring-Summer 2000. 
>
> [image: IMG_2AF05D436B61-1.jpeg]
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 11:22:39 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>
>> Efficient Velo Tools makes a stand with a pulley and counterweight that 
>> allows you to put the clamp on the bike while it is on the floor, then 
>> raise it. Down sides - $2750, eight month wait, and NOT portable. 
>>
>> https://www.efficientvelo.com/tools/ez-lift-repair-stand
>>
>> I want one, but will have to "make do" with the Park Shop Stand. 
>> Previously, I worked on bikes on the floor or one of these for over 40 
>> years .
>>
>> [image: s-l300.jpg]
>>
>>
>>
>> Laing
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 11:00:58 AM UTC-5 Ana Candela wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Leah,
>>>
>>> I am currently selling my two bike stands: one is the one Riv sells 
>>> (about 2 years old); the other, a Feedback mid range model (about 6-8 years 
>>> old?). I'm selling them locally because shipping would be a downside (I 
>>> would think at least $40),  but I'm open to negotiation. They're both 
>>> great, but I'm selling because I need a third hand to set my bike on them, 
>>> and that's something you may want to consider when getting a. stand, 
>>> whatever model you choose. I can't carry my bike with one hand while 
>>> affixing the clamp with the other. I've hurt my bike and myself in the 
>>> process, and I'm looking for a different kind of stand, but apparently it 
>>> doesn't exist yet, unless I want a huge hydraulic stand for e-bikes. Why 
>>> can't they make a version of a car/moped jack for bikes? Way cheaper and 
>>> even way less cumbersome.
>>>
>>> Anyway, if you're interested, I can send pics.
>>>
>>> -Ana
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 7:04:27 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 Ok, that got your attention. 

 I’m not actually taking a stand so much as BUYING a stand. I have had 
 it with trying to work on a bike on its kickstand. Tonight I tried to put 
 sealant in my tire and the tire deflated and my Clementine tipped over. 
 Hopping mad...that would be an apt description of me in the garage 
 tonight. 
 I’m sick and tired of wrecking my back and fed up with the awkwardness of 
 working on a bike that is always threatening to tip over. I’m taking a 
 stand against not having a stand.

 I know Rivendell sells a stand but last I checked, it is sold out and 
 also $$$. Is there anything that makes their stand worth waiting for? 

 I don’t have many preferences, save two: I don’t want something that 
 takes up a bunch of room, and I want the clamp to be on the seat post. 
 (Not 
 the frame.)

 You’re the best!
 Leah




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[RBW] Re: Leah Peterson Takes A Stand

[lconley]

Efficient Velo Tools makes a stand with a pulley and counterweight that 
allows you to put the clamp on the bike while it is on the floor, then 
raise it. Down sides - $2750, eight month wait, and NOT portable. 

https://www.efficientvelo.com/tools/ez-lift-repair-stand

I want one, but will have to "make do" with the Park Shop Stand. 
Previously, I worked on bikes on the floor or one of these for over 40 
years .

[image: s-l300.jpg]



Laing

On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 11:00:58 AM UTC-5 Ana Candela wrote:

> Hi Leah,
>
> I am currently selling my two bike stands: one is the one Riv sells (about 
> 2 years old); the other, a Feedback mid range model (about 6-8 years old?). 
> I'm selling them locally because shipping would be a downside (I would 
> think at least $40),  but I'm open to negotiation. They're both great, but 
> I'm selling because I need a third hand to set my bike on them, and that's 
> something you may want to consider when getting a. stand, whatever model 
> you choose. I can't carry my bike with one hand while affixing the clamp 
> with the other. I've hurt my bike and myself in the process, and I'm 
> looking for a different kind of stand, but apparently it doesn't exist yet, 
> unless I want a huge hydraulic stand for e-bikes. Why can't they make a 
> version of a car/moped jack for bikes? Way cheaper and even way less 
> cumbersome.
>
> Anyway, if you're interested, I can send pics.
>
> -Ana
>
> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 7:04:27 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Ok, that got your attention. 
>>
>> I’m not actually taking a stand so much as BUYING a stand. I have had it 
>> with trying to work on a bike on its kickstand. Tonight I tried to put 
>> sealant in my tire and the tire deflated and my Clementine tipped over. 
>> Hopping mad...that would be an apt description of me in the garage tonight. 
>> I’m sick and tired of wrecking my back and fed up with the awkwardness of 
>> working on a bike that is always threatening to tip over. I’m taking a 
>> stand against not having a stand.
>>
>> I know Rivendell sells a stand but last I checked, it is sold out and 
>> also $$$. Is there anything that makes their stand worth waiting for? 
>>
>> I don’t have many preferences, save two: I don’t want something that 
>> takes up a bunch of room, and I want the clamp to be on the seat post. (Not 
>> the frame.)
>>
>> You’re the best!
>> Leah
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Leah Peterson Takes A Stand

[velomann]

I have 2 stands - a Park and an old Blackburn. Currently each has a bike in 
it, and that's true more often than not. But I also have 2 short loops of 
sewn webbing (rock climbing slings, actually) hanging from eye bolts in my 
basement ceiling joists that get as much use as my stands. I use 2 other 
slings, each with a carabiner attached. loop a sling around the top of the 
seat stays behind the seat, the other at front of toptube, use slings to 
lift the bike and clip carabiners to ceiling slings. works great for 
getting to both sides of the bike to clean it and lube chain without having 
to stoop over. 
If you have a garage or basement with exposed joists where you can attach a 
couple slings, I recommend this even if just as a backup, or when you don't 
feel like raising the seat to get enough seatpost to clamp in the stand 
(the drawback to "almost a fistful of seatpost" is it's usually not quite 
enough to get in the clamp. Ditto if you already have something attached to 
the seatpost.)  I wrecked the decal on a Bridgestone MB-3 years ago when I 
got lazy and clamped the seat tube. Won't make that mistake again.

Mike M

On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 7:04:27 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Ok, that got your attention. 
>
> I’m not actually taking a stand so much as BUYING a stand. I have had it 
> with trying to work on a bike on its kickstand. Tonight I tried to put 
> sealant in my tire and the tire deflated and my Clementine tipped over. 
> Hopping mad...that would be an apt description of me in the garage tonight. 
> I’m sick and tired of wrecking my back and fed up with the awkwardness of 
> working on a bike that is always threatening to tip over. I’m taking a 
> stand against not having a stand.
>
> I know Rivendell sells a stand but last I checked, it is sold out and also 
> $$$. Is there anything that makes their stand worth waiting for? 
>
> I don’t have many preferences, save two: I don’t want something that takes 
> up a bunch of room, and I want the clamp to be on the seat post. (Not the 
> frame.)
>
> You’re the best!
> Leah
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Leah Peterson Takes A Stand

[Ana Candela]

Hi Leah,

I am currently selling my two bike stands: one is the one Riv sells (about 
2 years old); the other, a Feedback mid range model (about 6-8 years old?). 
I'm selling them locally because shipping would be a downside (I would 
think at least $40),  but I'm open to negotiation. They're both great, but 
I'm selling because I need a third hand to set my bike on them, and that's 
something you may want to consider when getting a. stand, whatever model 
you choose. I can't carry my bike with one hand while affixing the clamp 
with the other. I've hurt my bike and myself in the process, and I'm 
looking for a different kind of stand, but apparently it doesn't exist yet, 
unless I want a huge hydraulic stand for e-bikes. Why can't they make a 
version of a car/moped jack for bikes? Way cheaper and even way less 
cumbersome.

Anyway, if you're interested, I can send pics.

-Ana

On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 7:04:27 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Ok, that got your attention. 
>
> I’m not actually taking a stand so much as BUYING a stand. I have had it 
> with trying to work on a bike on its kickstand. Tonight I tried to put 
> sealant in my tire and the tire deflated and my Clementine tipped over. 
> Hopping mad...that would be an apt description of me in the garage tonight. 
> I’m sick and tired of wrecking my back and fed up with the awkwardness of 
> working on a bike that is always threatening to tip over. I’m taking a 
> stand against not having a stand.
>
> I know Rivendell sells a stand but last I checked, it is sold out and also 
> $$$. Is there anything that makes their stand worth waiting for? 
>
> I don’t have many preferences, save two: I don’t want something that takes 
> up a bunch of room, and I want the clamp to be on the seat post. (Not the 
> frame.)
>
> You’re the best!
> Leah
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Leah Peterson Takes A Stand

[aeroperf]

This one works for me, is inexpensive, sturdy, folds up for storage.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ZF2QV9C/



On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 9:31:50 AM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:

> If you have a workbench you could use something like this for under $100.  
>
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B011NJ3P5I/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1
> On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 9:06:44 AM UTC-5 ascpgh wrote:
>
>> I'm with Ian from Alberta for expediency and cost effectiveness. Instead 
>> of hooks I make loops of rope. Rear goes over a support, length through the 
>> show end's loop and cinched around the beam with the long loop end having 
>> down to catch the saddle nose. A second loop of rope goes over a 
>> beam/joist/heavy nail in wood at its middle, each loop holding a handlebar 
>> end. The front end won't pivot freely (corking you in the head with a 
>> swinging end of the handlebar). Used in all sorts of improvised work 
>> stations including using a 2 x 4 sitting on the rungs of two ladders. Life 
>> and bike repair in a construction site. 
>>
>> Robert T.'s Feedback Sports stand is an excellent suggestion too. Bought 
>> them for the shop from the original owners (Ultimate) who modified a guitar 
>> stand concept to create them. The clamp jaw is pretty compact compared to 
>> others. 
>>
>> Andy Cheatham
>> (Not working on anything for a while)
>> Pittsburgh 
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 10:04:27 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, that got your attention. 
>>>
>>> I’m not actually taking a stand so much as BUYING a stand. I have had it 
>>> with trying to work on a bike on its kickstand. Tonight I tried to put 
>>> sealant in my tire and the tire deflated and my Clementine tipped over. 
>>> Hopping mad...that would be an apt description of me in the garage tonight. 
>>> I’m sick and tired of wrecking my back and fed up with the awkwardness of 
>>> working on a bike that is always threatening to tip over. I’m taking a 
>>> stand against not having a stand.
>>>
>>> I know Rivendell sells a stand but last I checked, it is sold out and 
>>> also $$$. Is there anything that makes their stand worth waiting for? 
>>>
>>> I don’t have many preferences, save two: I don’t want something that 
>>> takes up a bunch of room, and I want the clamp to be on the seat post. (Not 
>>> the frame.)
>>>
>>> You’re the best!
>>> Leah
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Leah Peterson Takes A Stand

[ascpgh]

I'm with Ian from Alberta for expediency and cost effectiveness. Instead of 
hooks I make loops of rope. Rear goes over a support, length through the 
show end's loop and cinched around the beam with the long loop end having 
down to catch the saddle nose. A second loop of rope goes over a 
beam/joist/heavy nail in wood at its middle, each loop holding a handlebar 
end. The front end won't pivot freely (corking you in the head with a 
swinging end of the handlebar). Used in all sorts of improvised work 
stations including using a 2 x 4 sitting on the rungs of two ladders. Life 
and bike repair in a construction site. 

Robert T.'s Feedback Sports stand is an excellent suggestion too. Bought 
them for the shop from the original owners (Ultimate) who modified a guitar 
stand concept to create them. The clamp jaw is pretty compact compared to 
others. 

Andy Cheatham
(Not working on anything for a while)
Pittsburgh 

On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 10:04:27 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Ok, that got your attention. 
>
> I’m not actually taking a stand so much as BUYING a stand. I have had it 
> with trying to work on a bike on its kickstand. Tonight I tried to put 
> sealant in my tire and the tire deflated and my Clementine tipped over. 
> Hopping mad...that would be an apt description of me in the garage tonight. 
> I’m sick and tired of wrecking my back and fed up with the awkwardness of 
> working on a bike that is always threatening to tip over. I’m taking a 
> stand against not having a stand.
>
> I know Rivendell sells a stand but last I checked, it is sold out and also 
> $$$. Is there anything that makes their stand worth waiting for? 
>
> I don’t have many preferences, save two: I don’t want something that takes 
> up a bunch of room, and I want the clamp to be on the seat post. (Not the 
> frame.)
>
> You’re the best!
> Leah
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Leah Peterson Takes A Stand

[Tom Palmer]

Hi Leah,
I have a Bontrager (Trek) branded stand that has a built in place to rest 
the seat nose (and the weight of the bike) while you tighten the clamp. It 
is helpful with heavier bikes. I even had a Surly big dummy on it. 
I applaud your "go after it" attitude.

Tom Palmer
Twin Lake MI


On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 10:04:27 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Ok, that got your attention. 
>
> I’m not actually taking a stand so much as BUYING a stand. I have had it 
> with trying to work on a bike on its kickstand. Tonight I tried to put 
> sealant in my tire and the tire deflated and my Clementine tipped over. 
> Hopping mad...that would be an apt description of me in the garage tonight. 
> I’m sick and tired of wrecking my back and fed up with the awkwardness of 
> working on a bike that is always threatening to tip over. I’m taking a 
> stand against not having a stand.
>
> I know Rivendell sells a stand but last I checked, it is sold out and also 
> $$$. Is there anything that makes their stand worth waiting for? 
>
> I don’t have many preferences, save two: I don’t want something that takes 
> up a bunch of room, and I want the clamp to be on the seat post. (Not the 
> frame.)
>
> You’re the best!
> Leah
>
>
>

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