Re: [RBW] Re: Lightest, fastest, comfortablest 622 tires in the 37 to 45 mm range?

2013-04-05 Thread Shaun Meehan
The 38mm Schwalbwe Marathon Racers are lighter than the Supremes and
arguably more compliant. At the expense of less flat protection.


On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 10:43 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'd try them if they came in a 559 size that fit my frames (I bet a true
 37 would fit).

 I have pretty decent 559X32 mm (32 actual, 34/1.35 labeled) Kojaks on one
 of the Rivs and even so, not like the gofast.

 Seriously, if a fat, cush tire would climb as fast as the skinnies, I'd
 switch.


 On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 9:38 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:

 Patrick,

 These aren't skinny but as someone who road 23c tires for years (Michelin
 pro 3 and others) the Hetre's are amazingly fast. Just saying best of both
 worlds fat  fast!

 Hugh
 Sunland, CA


 On Thursday, April 4, 2013 7:27:59 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Regarding fat tires: I'm going to put 35s on the new Ram (bro brought
 wheelset -- last item!) and I use fat ones on the Fargo and 1.35s on the
 commuter Riv fixie, but I've been climbing a steep, 1 mile hill on various
 bikes and I have to say that the 17.5 lb 75 gofast, with sub 200 gram 22
 mm 650C (see) skinnies, climbs that hill and all others better than any
 other bike I own or have owned, and this consistently over 10 years or more.

 I won't be giving up the lightweight, skinny wheelset. Fatter tires on
 all other bikes, but not on this one: well, I will probably replace the 23s
 -- Michelin Pro Race 3s -- with 25s, but not any fatter or heavier, until
 someone can tell me what makes this bike climb so well.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Lightest, fastest, comfortablest 622 tires in the 37 to 45 mm range?

2013-04-05 Thread René Sterental
I'm going to give them a try. Didn't know they were available in that width.

Thanks!

René

On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 8:09 AM, Shaun Meehan meehan.sh...@gmail.com wrote:

 The 38mm Schwalbwe Marathon Racers are lighter than the Supremes and
 arguably more compliant. At the expense of less flat protection.




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Re: [RBW] Re: Lightest, fastest, comfortablest 622 tires in the 37 to 45 mm range?

2013-04-05 Thread Eric Platt
They are.  Definitely lighter than the Supremes.  Less flat protection but
didn't have any problems.  Also, in my use, they wear faster than the
Supremes.

Just pulled the Racers off my Hillborne for a set of Baby Big Bens.
Haven't ridden them yet (it's snowing out right now).  More tread which is
what I'm looking for at present.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 3:42 PM, René Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm going to give them a try. Didn't know they were available in that
 width.

 Thanks!

 René

 On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 8:09 AM, Shaun Meehan meehan.sh...@gmail.comwrote:

 The 38mm Schwalbwe Marathon Racers are lighter than the Supremes and
 arguably more compliant. At the expense of less flat protection.



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[RBW] Re: Lightest, fastest, comfortablest 622 tires in the 37 to 45 mm range?

2013-04-04 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Regarding fat tires: I'm going to put 35s on the new Ram (bro brought
wheelset -- last item!) and I use fat ones on the Fargo and 1.35s on the
commuter Riv fixie, but I've been climbing a steep, 1 mile hill on various
bikes and I have to say that the 17.5 lb 75 gofast, with sub 200 gram 22
mm 650C (see) skinnies, climbs that hill and all others better than any
other bike I own or have owned, and this consistently over 10 years or more.

I won't be giving up the lightweight, skinny wheelset. Fatter tires on all
other bikes, but not on this one: well, I will probably replace the 23s --
Michelin Pro Race 3s -- with 25s, but not any fatter or heavier, until
someone can tell me what makes this bike climb so well.

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[RBW] Re: Lightest, fastest, comfortablest 622 tires in the 37 to 45 mm range?

2013-04-04 Thread hsmitham
Patrick,

These aren't skinny but as someone who road 23c tires for years (Michelin 
pro 3 and others) the Hetre's are amazingly fast. Just saying best of both 
worlds fat  fast!

Hugh
Sunland, CA

On Thursday, April 4, 2013 7:27:59 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Regarding fat tires: I'm going to put 35s on the new Ram (bro brought 
 wheelset -- last item!) and I use fat ones on the Fargo and 1.35s on the 
 commuter Riv fixie, but I've been climbing a steep, 1 mile hill on various 
 bikes and I have to say that the 17.5 lb 75 gofast, with sub 200 gram 22 
 mm 650C (see) skinnies, climbs that hill and all others better than any 
 other bike I own or have owned, and this consistently over 10 years or more.

 I won't be giving up the lightweight, skinny wheelset. Fatter tires on all 
 other bikes, but not on this one: well, I will probably replace the 23s -- 
 Michelin Pro Race 3s -- with 25s, but not any fatter or heavier, until 
 someone can tell me what makes this bike climb so well.
  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Lightest, fastest, comfortablest 622 tires in the 37 to 45 mm range?

2013-04-04 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I'd try them if they came in a 559 size that fit my frames (I bet a true 37
would fit).

I have pretty decent 559X32 mm (32 actual, 34/1.35 labeled) Kojaks on one
of the Rivs and even so, not like the gofast.

Seriously, if a fat, cush tire would climb as fast as the skinnies, I'd
switch.


On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 9:38 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:

 Patrick,

 These aren't skinny but as someone who road 23c tires for years (Michelin
 pro 3 and others) the Hetre's are amazingly fast. Just saying best of both
 worlds fat  fast!

 Hugh
 Sunland, CA


 On Thursday, April 4, 2013 7:27:59 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Regarding fat tires: I'm going to put 35s on the new Ram (bro brought
 wheelset -- last item!) and I use fat ones on the Fargo and 1.35s on the
 commuter Riv fixie, but I've been climbing a steep, 1 mile hill on various
 bikes and I have to say that the 17.5 lb 75 gofast, with sub 200 gram 22
 mm 650C (see) skinnies, climbs that hill and all others better than any
 other bike I own or have owned, and this consistently over 10 years or more.

 I won't be giving up the lightweight, skinny wheelset. Fatter tires on
 all other bikes, but not on this one: well, I will probably replace the 23s
 -- Michelin Pro Race 3s -- with 25s, but not any fatter or heavier, until
 someone can tell me what makes this bike climb so well.

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[RBW] Re: Lightest, fastest, comfortablest 622 tires in the 37 to 45 mm range?

2013-03-30 Thread charlie
I like  my Schwalbe Supremes 700x40 (actual about 37mm) both fast (to me) 
cushy and durable. I have these on my Surly Trucker and would like them on 
my Hillborne but with fenders they are a little tight on that frame.

On Saturday, March 30, 2013 12:51:46 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I know this list is the hotspot for fat-tired-ness. Close to building up 
 the Ram, which will take over some grocery and errand riding from the 
 Fargo, I plan to steal the very, very nice Kojaks from the Fargo to install 
 on the Ram. (STILL waiting for a wheelset -- brother has inched one closer 
 to ABQ, but it's still 100 miles away in Crownpoint, NM.)

 That leaves the skinny wheelset for the Fargo needing tires: Rhyno Lite 
 27 mm wide rims. No point in putting skinny 35s back on it; might was well 
 put on something fattter.

 But not too fat: after all, I have the SnoCat SL/60mm Big Apple Liteskin 
 set, too.

 So: for a change of pace for the Fargo, for 80% pavement, with a bias 
 toward light, fast, cushy and a bias against sturdy, long-lasting, 
 flat-resistant: what is out there, what do you recommend, and why?

 I know about the 37 mm Paselas (no Tourguards) and those are on my short 
 list, but I'd like to learn of others.

 Gracias.

 Thanks.

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[RBW] Re: Lightest, fastest, comfortablest 622 tires in the 37 to 45 mm range?

2013-03-30 Thread Garth
 Vittoria Randonneur Hyper Tire, though they have changed the name to 
Voyager Hyper !!  38mm and 40mm

http://www.iminusd.com/vittoria-randonneur-hyper-700x40c/

http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product_10053_10052_207658_-1_201485_1_201490


Schwalbe Marathon Racer :)  

http://www.schwalbetires.com/bike_tires/road_tires/marathon_racer_429

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