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I never used the chain hanger on my Quickbeam, since I had already hooked the chain over the fork ends in order to remove the wheel. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Wow, that is beautiful, simple beauty. Nicely done. Thanks for sharing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Looks great. I think I see a chain catcher thing on the stay you left off the inventory, nice touch that's very handy. You might consider the mks track chain tensioner as an alternative to the monkey nuts. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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ted - Thanks for the suggestion on the tensioner. The monkey nuts are already coming so we'll see how they work out, and I think they will solve a different issue of freewheel rub (which I discovered due to the short chain) beside chain tension (which I may discover). Good catch on the Columbine Chain Hanger; I thought it would come in handy when I flipped the hub to the flop side. Other items I forgot to note: Nitto Bar Plugs, Tektro R559 Brakes (recessed), Jagwire cable housing - sterling silver. I appreciate the compliment WETH. On Monday, March 31, 2014 9:57:48 PM UTC-4, ted wrote: Looks great. I think I see a chain catcher thing on the stay you left off the inventory, nice touch that's very handy. You might consider the mks track chain tensioner as an alternative to the monkey nuts. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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ted - Thanks for the suggestion on the tensioner. The monkey nuts are already coming so we'll see how they work out but I think the tensioner was probably a better call. Good catch on the Columbine Chain Hanger; I thought it would come in handy when I flipped the hub to the flop side. Other items I forgot to note: Nitto Bar Plugs, Tektro R559 Brakes (recessed), Jagwire cable housing - sterling silver. I appreciate the compliment WETH. On Monday, March 31, 2014 9:57:48 PM UTC-4, ted wrote: Looks great. I think I see a chain catcher thing on the stay you left off the inventory, nice touch that's very handy. You might consider the mks track chain tensioner as an alternative to the monkey nuts. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Cool. I have the same hanger on my SO. It's nice having something to keep the chain back where I can hook it easily with the rear axel. The monkey nuts look neat I'm curious how they work out for you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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the frame? 3) Hubs - Not sure which brand to go with. I saw these on Ben's: https://www.benscycle.com/p-3458-milwaukee-bicycle-co-hubset-32h-fixfree.aspx They achieve a 42mm chainline and have a classic look without breaking the bank, but i am not wedded to these. 4) Rims Velocity Synergy 650b with DT double butted spokes. 5) Cog - with a 46t ring, a 17t cog achieves 70. Again - a good place to start. I live in an area that is pretty flat with a few rolling hills but nothing too steep. I really like the WI DOS ENO 2-Speed 17/19 from a quality and versatility perspective. The fact that, for a lot of you, the QB is your favorite among many other great Rivendells (I have a Custom, Atlantis and Sam) is exciting - each of mine serves a different purpose and I never get tired of them. Thank you again for your help! On Thursday, March 6, 2014 9:09:06 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.comwrote: I have a WI 17/19 on mine, and really like that option. Gives just enough difference at times. But I rarely go to the 32T front chainring. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.a...@skadden.com wrote: I agree with Minh that when you’re on a SS, it changes your perspective. I just don’t mind walking if the need arises – just another pleasant way to get where I’m going. *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Minh *Sent:* Thursday, March 06, 2014 4:50 PM *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam My QB came with the 40x26, ended up moving it to my SH as i never bothered shifting to the 26. I now use a single 42, it may depend on your terrain, but i can handle hills fine, and those i can't i just get off and walk, it's not that big a deal. i have a WI Dos FW 17/19, and even that i rarely switch. a single-speed changes your perspective, it's hard to understand coming from a multi-gear bike. i strongly suggest you get the bike rideable as soon as possible and see what works for you. i ride 42/17, i'm not the strongest rider but it works for me! also concur with Tom, QB is my favorite bike in the bunch. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 9:14:40 PM UTC-5, djbardwil wrote: The more I hear about the fixed gear bicycle experience, the more it seems that putting on a 2 speed kickback hub is missing the point. It seems that dialing in on the gearing is half the fun - it's a bike for tinkerers. My QB originally had the Sugino XD Double; does the double chainring typically get used in both rings or do most just keep it on the larger 40 ring with the 26 ring for the rare occasion? I'm wondering if a single crank like the Sugino RD with either a 46 or 48 ring is best. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 12:48:51 PM UTC-5, Esteban wrote: Oh, yea. I have a QB too. Had one years ago, too big. This one, just right. 40x16 free 15 fixed. 68 gets me up almost any hill in town (with some zig zag), and I try to spin out on flats for exercise. Its a fantastic bike. You'll love it. Everyone should have one :) Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Thursday, February 27, 2014 12:04:36 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote: I have a Quickbeam. I'm obsessed with gearing, and always come back to about a 72. Currently I'm re-enamored of fixed gear riding, with a single 44t ring, a 15t cog and a 17/21 dingle cog. I do have a Sachs Automatic wheel with a coaster brake, and I agree that the coaster brake messes up my mojo. I have considered the S2 (no C) hub, and will probably build one at some point. The Quickbeam is great - I'd ride mine anywhere, in any terrain, on any surface. Philip www.biketinker.com On Thursday, February 27, 2014 8:42:58 AM UTC-8, djbardwil wrote: Pudge - If I go with the SA 2 speed, it would be without coaster brake. Minh - You are right on the argument. Simple and pure is what I want with this build as well as a new perspective on riding. A broadening of horizons On Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:37:38 AM UTC-5, Minh wrote: Just a thought, when i got my QB, i also was (unnecessarily) worried about gearing, additional speeds and now that i've had it i never both switching in the rear (WI DUO) and switched to a single-ring front. if you have the wheels already to get it on the road, you might be surprised at how fast you adjust to a single gear. nothing wrong if you really want to mess with the SA 2 speeds, but there is something pure about a single-speed QB that changes your perspective on riding. On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 10:54:23 PM UTC-5, djbardwil wrote: Well, I am thrilled to be the very lucky winner
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the frame? 3) Hubs - Not sure which brand to go with. I saw these on Ben's: https://www.benscycle.com/p-3458-milwaukee-bicycle-co-hubset-32h-fixfree.aspx They achieve a 42mm chainline and have a classic look without breaking the bank, but i am not wedded to these. 4) Rims Velocity Synergy 650b with DT double butted spokes. 5) Cog - with a 46t ring, a 17t cog achieves 70. Again - a good place to start. I live in an area that is pretty flat with a few rolling hills but nothing too steep. I really like the WI DOS ENO 2-Speed 17/19 from a quality and versatility perspective. The fact that, for a lot of you, the QB is your favorite among many other great Rivendells (I have a Custom, Atlantis and Sam) is exciting - each of mine serves a different purpose and I never get tired of them. Thank you again for your help! On Thursday, March 6, 2014 9:09:06 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.comwrote: I have a WI 17/19 on mine, and really like that option. Gives just enough difference at times. But I rarely go to the 32T front chainring. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.a...@skadden.com wrote: I agree with Minh that when you’re on a SS, it changes your perspective. I just don’t mind walking if the need arises – just another pleasant way to get where I’m going. *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Minh *Sent:* Thursday, March 06, 2014 4:50 PM *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam My QB came with the 40x26, ended up moving it to my SH as i never bothered shifting to the 26. I now use a single 42, it may depend on your terrain, but i can handle hills fine, and those i can't i just get off and walk, it's not that big a deal. i have a WI Dos FW 17/19, and even that i rarely switch. a single-speed changes your perspective, it's hard to understand coming from a multi-gear bike. i strongly suggest you get the bike rideable as soon as possible and see what works for you. i ride 42/17, i'm not the strongest rider but it works for me! also concur with Tom, QB is my favorite bike in the bunch. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 9:14:40 PM UTC-5, djbardwil wrote: The more I hear about the fixed gear bicycle experience, the more it seems that putting on a 2 speed kickback hub is missing the point. It seems that dialing in on the gearing is half the fun - it's a bike for tinkerers. My QB originally had the Sugino XD Double; does the double chainring typically get used in both rings or do most just keep it on the larger 40 ring with the 26 ring for the rare occasion? I'm wondering if a single crank like the Sugino RD with either a 46 or 48 ring is best. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 12:48:51 PM UTC-5, Esteban wrote: Oh, yea. I have a QB too. Had one years ago, too big. This one, just right. 40x16 free 15 fixed. 68 gets me up almost any hill in town (with some zig zag), and I try to spin out on flats for exercise. Its a fantastic bike. You'll love it. Everyone should have one :) Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Thursday, February 27, 2014 12:04:36 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote: I have a Quickbeam. I'm obsessed with gearing, and always come back to about a 72. Currently I'm re-enamored of fixed gear riding, with a single 44t ring, a 15t cog and a 17/21 dingle cog. I do have a Sachs Automatic wheel with a coaster brake, and I agree that the coaster brake messes up my mojo. I have considered the S2 (no C) hub, and will probably build one at some point. The Quickbeam is great - I'd ride mine anywhere, in any terrain, on any surface. Philip www.biketinker.com On Thursday, February 27, 2014 8:42:58 AM UTC-8, djbardwil wrote: Pudge - If I go with the SA 2 speed, it would be without coaster brake. Minh - You are right on the argument. Simple and pure is what I want with this build as well as a new perspective on riding. A broadening of horizons On Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:37:38 AM UTC-5, Minh wrote: Just a thought, when i got my QB, i also was (unnecessarily) worried about gearing, additional speeds and now that i've had it i never both switching in the rear (WI DUO) and switched to a single-ring front. if you have the wheels already to get it on the road, you might be surprised at how fast you adjust to a single gear. nothing wrong if you really want to mess with the SA 2 speeds, but there is something pure about a single-speed QB that changes your perspective on riding. On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 10:54:23 PM UTC-5, djbardwil wrote: Well, I am thrilled to be the very lucky winner
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are using standard geared bike ring and chain, chain line is not really all that critical. If you do want to get chain line just so, the phil bb and its two ended adjustment is real handy. Mounting your chosen crank on the bb that came in your frame will let you decide what length bb you want to use. Just measure the line you get with the one thats already there, and adjust accordingly before ordering a new one. On Thursday, March 6, 2014 7:20:38 PM UTC-8, djbardwil wrote: I am blocked at work from checking the RBW postings and tonight I found I couldn't wait to get home to check - thanks Patrick (dig the shirt much), ted, Pudge, David and Minh for your perspectives. And with that, the order by which to choose components and considerations seems: 1) Crankset - single ring makes sense; modest number of teeth, between 40 and 46; I like the Sugino RD and it comes in 165mm arm (I am a short legged being), with choice of 46t or 48t. Many of you have a lower # of teeth but I need to start somewhere. Not sure of the RD's chainline (i've seen conflicting 44 or 42) but as close to the rear hub / cog chainline as possible. 2) Bottom bracket - my QB came with a 113mm but each crankset has its own recommended BB mm. The Sugino RD, with 130 BCD, is coupled with a 103mm BB. If I go with Sugino's recommended 103mm, which is lower than Riv's 110mm general recommendation, must I worry about ring clearance against the frame? 3) Hubs - Not sure which brand to go with. I saw these on Ben's: https://www.benscycle.com/p-3458-milwaukee-bicycle-co-hubset-32h-fixfree.aspx They achieve a 42mm chainline and have a classic look without breaking the bank, but i am not wedded to these. 4) Rims Velocity Synergy 650b with DT double butted spokes. 5) Cog - with a 46t ring, a 17t cog achieves 70. Again - a good place to start. I live in an area that is pretty flat with a few rolling hills but nothing too steep. I really like the WI DOS ENO 2-Speed 17/19 from a quality and versatility perspective. The fact that, for a lot of you, the QB is your favorite among many other great Rivendells (I have a Custom, Atlantis and Sam) is exciting - each of mine serves a different purpose and I never get tired of them. Thank you again for your help! On Thursday, March 6, 2014 9:09:06 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.comwrote: I have a WI 17/19 on mine, and really like that option. Gives just enough difference at times. But I rarely go to the 32T front chainring. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.a...@skadden.com wrote: I agree with Minh that when you’re on a SS, it changes your perspective. I just don’t mind walking if the need arises – just another pleasant way to get where I’m going. *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Minh *Sent:* Thursday, March 06, 2014 4:50 PM *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam My QB came with the 40x26, ended up moving it to my SH as i never bothered shifting to the 26. I now use a single 42, it may depend on your terrain, but i can handle hills fine, and those i can't i just get off and walk, it's not that big a deal. i have a WI Dos FW 17/19, and even that i rarely switch. a single-speed changes your perspective, it's hard to understand coming from a multi-gear bike. i strongly suggest you get the bike rideable as soon as possible and see what works for you. i ride 42/17, i'm not the strongest rider but it works for me! also concur with Tom, QB is my favorite bike in the bunch. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 9:14:40 PM UTC-5, djbardwil wrote: The more I hear about the fixed gear bicycle experience, the more it seems that putting on a 2 speed kickback hub is missing the point. It seems that dialing in on the gearing is half the fun - it's a bike for tinkerers. My QB originally had the Sugino XD Double; does the double chainring typically get used in both rings or do most just keep it on the larger 40 ring with the 26 ring for the rare occasion? I'm wondering if a single crank like the Sugino RD with either a 46 or 48 ring is best. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 12:48:51 PM UTC-5, Esteban wrote: Oh, yea. I have a QB too. Had one years ago, too big. This one, just right. 40x16 free 15 fixed. 68 gets me up almost any hill in town (with some zig zag), and I try to spin out on flats for exercise. Its a fantastic bike. You'll love it. Everyone should have one :) Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Thursday, February 27, 2014 12:04:36 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote: I have a Quickbeam. I'm obsessed with gearing, and always come back to about a 72. Currently I'm re
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Good call on checking the BB ted and I may go to 170 on the crank for the smidge of leverage gain. I also found this slick new White Industries Track Hubset which would mate well with the DOS ENO: https://www.benscycle.com/p-1524-white-industries-track-hubset-fixfree-32h-120mm.aspx? From what I can tell, it seems that Fixed Gear hubs are differentiated from Track hubs based on rear spacing of 130 vs 120 (the QB span) respectively. On Friday, March 7, 2014 12:33:13 AM UTC-5, ted wrote: All sounds very nice. Shorter cranks are traditional track gear. Where 175 may be normal for mtn bikes and 170 normal for road bikes, 165 is sort of normal for a track bike. With a single ring and normal single speed chain line you shouldn't have any trouble with clearance between the ring and frame. If you are using standard geared bike ring and chain, chain line is not really all that critical. If you do want to get chain line just so, the phil bb and its two ended adjustment is real handy. Mounting your chosen crank on the bb that came in your frame will let you decide what length bb you want to use. Just measure the line you get with the one thats already there, and adjust accordingly before ordering a new one. On Thursday, March 6, 2014 7:20:38 PM UTC-8, djbardwil wrote: I am blocked at work from checking the RBW postings and tonight I found I couldn't wait to get home to check - thanks Patrick (dig the shirt much), ted, Pudge, David and Minh for your perspectives. And with that, the order by which to choose components and considerations seems: 1) Crankset - single ring makes sense; modest number of teeth, between 40 and 46; I like the Sugino RD and it comes in 165mm arm (I am a short legged being), with choice of 46t or 48t. Many of you have a lower # of teeth but I need to start somewhere. Not sure of the RD's chainline (i've seen conflicting 44 or 42) but as close to the rear hub / cog chainline as possible. 2) Bottom bracket - my QB came with a 113mm but each crankset has its own recommended BB mm. The Sugino RD, with 130 BCD, is coupled with a 103mm BB. If I go with Sugino's recommended 103mm, which is lower than Riv's 110mm general recommendation, must I worry about ring clearance against the frame? 3) Hubs - Not sure which brand to go with. I saw these on Ben's: https://www.benscycle.com/p-3458-milwaukee-bicycle-co-hubset-32h-fixfree.aspx They achieve a 42mm chainline and have a classic look without breaking the bank, but i am not wedded to these. 4) Rims Velocity Synergy 650b with DT double butted spokes. 5) Cog - with a 46t ring, a 17t cog achieves 70. Again - a good place to start. I live in an area that is pretty flat with a few rolling hills but nothing too steep. I really like the WI DOS ENO 2-Speed 17/19 from a quality and versatility perspective. The fact that, for a lot of you, the QB is your favorite among many other great Rivendells (I have a Custom, Atlantis and Sam) is exciting - each of mine serves a different purpose and I never get tired of them. Thank you again for your help! On Thursday, March 6, 2014 9:09:06 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: I have a WI 17/19 on mine, and really like that option. Gives just enough difference at times. But I rarely go to the 32T front chainring. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.a...@skadden.com wrote: I agree with Minh that when you’re on a SS, it changes your perspective. I just don’t mind walking if the need arises – just another pleasant way to get where I’m going. *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Minh *Sent:* Thursday, March 06, 2014 4:50 PM *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam My QB came with the 40x26, ended up moving it to my SH as i never bothered shifting to the 26. I now use a single 42, it may depend on your terrain, but i can handle hills fine, and those i can't i just get off and walk, it's not that big a deal. i have a WI Dos FW 17/19, and even that i rarely switch. a single-speed changes your perspective, it's hard to understand coming from a multi-gear bike. i strongly suggest you get the bike rideable as soon as possible and see what works for you. i ride 42/17, i'm not the strongest rider but it works for me! also concur with Tom, QB is my favorite bike in the bunch. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 9:14:40 PM UTC-5, djbardwil wrote: The more I hear about the fixed gear bicycle experience, the more it seems that putting on a 2 speed kickback hub is missing the point. It seems that dialing in on the gearing is half the fun - it's a bike for tinkerers. My QB originally had the Sugino XD Double; does the double chainring typically get used
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David: I used a set of those hubs (green in color!) to build the wheelset for the green Quickbeam I built for my son – here’s a pic of the hub, showing the nice finish: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/5646012976/in/set-72157626433454817 And one of the bike, after mods for Riv Rally East 2012 on the Great Allegheny Passage: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7107219303/in/set-72157626433454817/ The hubs look great, and are still going strong after several thousand miles of tough city riding in Philadelphia. My son loves the bike. Tom From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of djbardwil Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 10:21 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam I am blocked at work from checking the RBW postings and tonight I found I couldn't wait to get home to check - thanks Patrick (dig the shirt much), ted, Pudge, David and Minh for your perspectives. And with that, the order by which to choose components and considerations seems: 1) Crankset - single ring makes sense; modest number of teeth, between 40 and 46; I like the Sugino RD and it comes in 165mm arm (I am a short legged being), with choice of 46t or 48t. Many of you have a lower # of teeth but I need to start somewhere. Not sure of the RD's chainline (i've seen conflicting 44 or 42) but as close to the rear hub / cog chainline as possible. 2) Bottom bracket - my QB came with a 113mm but each crankset has its own recommended BB mm. The Sugino RD, with 130 BCD, is coupled with a 103mm BB. If I go with Sugino's recommended 103mm, which is lower than Riv's 110mm general recommendation, must I worry about ring clearance against the frame? 3) Hubs - Not sure which brand to go with. I saw these on Ben's: https://www.benscycle.com/p-3458-milwaukee-bicycle-co-hubset-32h-fixfree.aspx They achieve a 42mm chainline and have a classic look without breaking the bank, but i am not wedded to these. 4) Rims Velocity Synergy 650b with DT double butted spokes. 5) Cog - with a 46t ring, a 17t cog achieves 70. Again - a good place to start. I live in an area that is pretty flat with a few rolling hills but nothing too steep. I really like the WI DOS ENO 2-Speed 17/19 from a quality and versatility perspective. The fact that, for a lot of you, the QB is your favorite among many other great Rivendells (I have a Custom, Atlantis and Sam) is exciting - each of mine serves a different purpose and I never get tired of them. Thank you again for your help! On Thursday, March 6, 2014 9:09:06 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.commailto:cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: I have a WI 17/19 on mine, and really like that option. Gives just enough difference at times. But I rarely go to the 32T front chainring. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.a...@skadden.comjavascript: wrote: I agree with Minh that when you’re on a SS, it changes your perspective. I just don’t mind walking if the need arises – just another pleasant way to get where I’m going. From: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: [mailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:] On Behalf Of Minh Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 4:50 PM To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: Subject: [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam My QB came with the 40x26, ended up moving it to my SH as i never bothered shifting to the 26. I now use a single 42, it may depend on your terrain, but i can handle hills fine, and those i can't i just get off and walk, it's not that big a deal. i have a WI Dos FW 17/19, and even that i rarely switch. a single-speed changes your perspective, it's hard to understand coming from a multi-gear bike. i strongly suggest you get the bike rideable as soon as possible and see what works for you. i ride 42/17, i'm not the strongest rider but it works for me! also concur with Tom, QB is my favorite bike in the bunch. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 9:14:40 PM UTC-5, djbardwil wrote: The more I hear about the fixed gear bicycle experience, the more it seems that putting on a 2 speed kickback hub is missing the point. It seems that dialing in on the gearing is half the fun - it's a bike for tinkerers. My QB originally had the Sugino XD Double; does the double chainring typically get used in both rings or do most just keep it on the larger 40 ring with the 26 ring for the rare occasion? I'm wondering if a single crank like the Sugino RD with either a 46 or 48 ring is best. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 12:48:51 PM UTC-5, Esteban wrote: Oh, yea. I have a QB too. Had one years ago, too big. This one, just right. 40x16 free 15 fixed. 68 gets me up almost any hill in town (with some zig zag), and I try to spin out on flats for exercise. Its a fantastic bike. You'll love it. Everyone should have one :) Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Thursday, February 27, 2014 12:04
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against the frame? 3) Hubs - Not sure which brand to go with. I saw these on Ben's: https://www.benscycle.com/p-3458-milwaukee-bicycle-co-hubset-32h-fixfree.aspx They achieve a 42mm chainline and have a classic look without breaking the bank, but i am not wedded to these. 4) Rims Velocity Synergy 650b with DT double butted spokes. 5) Cog - with a 46t ring, a 17t cog achieves 70. Again - a good place to start. I live in an area that is pretty flat with a few rolling hills but nothing too steep. I really like the WI DOS ENO 2-Speed 17/19 from a quality and versatility perspective. The fact that, for a lot of you, the QB is your favorite among many other great Rivendells (I have a Custom, Atlantis and Sam) is exciting - each of mine serves a different purpose and I never get tired of them. Thank you again for your help! On Thursday, March 6, 2014 9:09:06 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: I have a WI 17/19 on mine, and really like that option. Gives just enough difference at times. But I rarely go to the 32T front chainring. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.a...@skadden.com wrote: I agree with Minh that when you’re on a SS, it changes your perspective. I just don’t mind walking if the need arises – just another pleasant way to get where I’m going. *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Minh *Sent:* Thursday, March 06, 2014 4:50 PM *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam My QB came with the 40x26, ended up moving it to my SH as i never bothered shifting to the 26. I now use a single 42, it may depend on your terrain, but i can handle hills fine, and those i can't i just get off and walk, it's not that big a deal. i have a WI Dos FW 17/19, and even that i rarely switch. a single-speed changes your perspective, it's hard to understand coming from a multi-gear bike. i strongly suggest you get the bike rideable as soon as possible and see what works for you. i ride 42/17, i'm not the strongest rider but it works for me! also concur with Tom, QB is my favorite bike in the bunch. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 9:14:40 PM UTC-5, djbardwil wrote: The more I hear about the fixed gear bicycle experience, the more it seems that putting on a 2 speed kickback hub is missing the point. It seems that dialing in on the gearing is half the fun - it's a bike for tinkerers. My QB originally had the Sugino XD Double; does the double chainring typically get used in both rings or do most just keep it on the larger 40 ring with the 26 ring for the rare occasion? I'm wondering if a single crank like the Sugino RD with either a 46 or 48 ring is best. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 12:48:51 PM UTC-5, Esteban wrote: Oh, yea. I have a QB too. Had one years ago, too big. This one, just right. 40x16 free 15 fixed. 68 gets me up almost any hill in town (with some zig zag), and I try to spin out on flats for exercise. Its a fantastic bike. You'll love it. Everyone should have one :) Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Thursday, February 27, 2014 12:04:36 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote: I have a Quickbeam. I'm obsessed with gearing, and always come back to about a 72. Currently I'm re-enamored of fixed gear riding, with a single 44t ring, a 15t cog and a 17/21 dingle cog. I do have a Sachs Automatic wheel with a coaster brake, and I agree that the coaster brake messes up my mojo. I have considered the S2 (no C) hub, and will probably build one at some point. The Quickbeam is great - I'd ride mine anywhere, in any terrain, on any surface. Philip www.biketinker.com On Thursday, February 27, 2014 8:42:58 AM UTC-8, djbardwil wrote: Pudge - If I go with the SA 2 speed, it would be without coaster brake. Minh - You are right on the argument. Simple and pure is what I want with this build as well as a new perspective on riding. A broadening of horizons On Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:37:38 AM UTC-5, Minh wrote: Just a thought, when i got my QB, i also was (unnecessarily) worried about gearing, additional speeds and now that i've had it i never both switching in the rear (WI DUO) and switched to a single-ring front. if you have the wheels already to get it on the road, you might be surprised at how fast you adjust to a single gear. nothing wrong if you really want to mess with the SA 2 speeds, but there is something pure about a single-speed QB that changes your perspective on riding. On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 10:54:23 PM UTC-5, djbardwil wrote: Well, I am thrilled to be the very lucky winner of the auction
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couldn't wait to get home to check - thanks Patrick (dig the shirt much), ted, Pudge, David and Minh for your perspectives. And with that, the order by which to choose components and considerations seems: 1) Crankset - single ring makes sense; modest number of teeth, between 40 and 46; I like the Sugino RD and it comes in 165mm arm (I am a short legged being), with choice of 46t or 48t. Many of you have a lower # of teeth but I need to start somewhere. Not sure of the RD's chainline (i've seen conflicting 44 or 42) but as close to the rear hub / cog chainline as possible. 2) Bottom bracket - my QB came with a 113mm but each crankset has its own recommended BB mm. The Sugino RD, with 130 BCD, is coupled with a 103mm BB. If I go with Sugino's recommended 103mm, which is lower than Riv's 110mm general recommendation, must I worry about ring clearance against the frame? 3) Hubs - Not sure which brand to go with. I saw these on Ben's: https://www.benscycle.com/p-3458-milwaukee-bicycle-co-hubset-32h-fixfree.aspx They achieve a 42mm chainline and have a classic look without breaking the bank, but i am not wedded to these. 4) Rims Velocity Synergy 650b with DT double butted spokes. 5) Cog - with a 46t ring, a 17t cog achieves 70. Again - a good place to start. I live in an area that is pretty flat with a few rolling hills but nothing too steep. I really like the WI DOS ENO 2-Speed 17/19 from a quality and versatility perspective. The fact that, for a lot of you, the QB is your favorite among many other great Rivendells (I have a Custom, Atlantis and Sam) is exciting - each of mine serves a different purpose and I never get tired of them. Thank you again for your help! On Thursday, March 6, 2014 9:09:06 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: I have a WI 17/19 on mine, and really like that option. Gives just enough difference at times. But I rarely go to the 32T front chainring. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.a...@skadden.com wrote: I agree with Minh that when you’re on a SS, it changes your perspective. I just don’t mind walking if the need arises – just another pleasant way to get where I’m going. *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Minh *Sent:* Thursday, March 06, 2014 4:50 PM *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam My QB came with the 40x26, ended up moving it to my SH as i never bothered shifting to the 26. I now use a single 42, it may depend on your terrain, but i can handle hills fine, and those i can't i just get off and walk, it's not that big a deal. i have a WI Dos FW 17/19, and even that i rarely switch. a single-speed changes your perspective, it's hard to understand coming from a multi-gear bike. i strongly suggest you get the bike rideable as soon as possible and see what works for you. i ride 42/17, i'm not the strongest rider but it works for me! also concur with Tom, QB is my favorite bike in the bunch. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 9:14:40 PM UTC-5, djbardwil wrote: The more I hear about the fixed gear bicycle experience, the more it seems that putting on a 2 speed kickback hub is missing the point. It seems that dialing in on the gearing is half the fun - it's a bike for tinkerers. My QB originally had the Sugino XD Double; does the double chainring typically get used in both rings or do most just keep it on the larger 40 ring with the 26 ring for the rare occasion? I'm wondering if a single crank like the Sugino RD with either a 46 or 48 ring is best. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 12:48:51 PM UTC-5, Esteban wrote: Oh, yea. I have a QB too. Had one years ago, too big. This one, just right. 40x16 free 15 fixed. 68 gets me up almost any hill in town (with some zig zag), and I try to spin out on flats for exercise. Its a fantastic bike. You'll love it. Everyone should have one :) Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Thursday, February 27, 2014 12:04:36 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote: I have a Quickbeam. I'm obsessed with gearing, and always come back to about a 72. Currently I'm re-enamored of fixed gear riding, with a single 44t ring, a 15t cog and a 17/21 dingle cog. I do have a Sachs Automatic wheel with a coaster brake, and I agree that the coaster brake messes up my mojo. I have considered the S2 (no C) hub, and will probably build one at some point. The Quickbeam is great - I'd ride mine anywhere, in any terrain, on any surface. Philip www.biketinker.com On Thursday, February 27, 2014 8:42:58 AM UTC-8, djbardwil wrote: Pudge - If I go with the SA 2 speed, it would be without coaster brake. Minh - You are right
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-industries-track-hubset-fixfree-32h-120mm.aspxsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNGthDg6vCqdmZcPcTpFwjdadpBdfQ ? From what I can tell, it seems that Fixed Gear hubs are differentiated from Track hubs based on rear spacing of 130 vs 120 (the QB span) respectively. On Friday, March 7, 2014 12:33:13 AM UTC-5, ted wrote: All sounds very nice. Shorter cranks are traditional track gear. Where 175 may be normal for mtn bikes and 170 normal for road bikes, 165 is sort of normal for a track bike. With a single ring and normal single speed chain line you shouldn't have any trouble with clearance between the ring and frame. If you are using standard geared bike ring and chain, chain line is not really all that critical. If you do want to get chain line just so, the phil bb and its two ended adjustment is real handy. Mounting your chosen crank on the bb that came in your frame will let you decide what length bb you want to use. Just measure the line you get with the one thats already there, and adjust accordingly before ordering a new one. On Thursday, March 6, 2014 7:20:38 PM UTC-8, djbardwil wrote: I am blocked at work from checking the RBW postings and tonight I found I couldn't wait to get home to check - thanks Patrick (dig the shirt much), ted, Pudge, David and Minh for your perspectives. And with that, the order by which to choose components and considerations seems: 1) Crankset - single ring makes sense; modest number of teeth, between 40 and 46; I like the Sugino RD and it comes in 165mm arm (I am a short legged being), with choice of 46t or 48t. Many of you have a lower # of teeth but I need to start somewhere. Not sure of the RD's chainline (i've seen conflicting 44 or 42) but as close to the rear hub / cog chainline as possible. 2) Bottom bracket - my QB came with a 113mm but each crankset has its own recommended BB mm. The Sugino RD, with 130 BCD, is coupled with a 103mm BB. If I go with Sugino's recommended 103mm, which is lower than Riv's 110mm general recommendation, must I worry about ring clearance against the frame? 3) Hubs - Not sure which brand to go with. I saw these on Ben's: https://www.benscycle.com/p-3458-milwaukee-bicycle-co-hubset-32h-fixfree.aspx They achieve a 42mm chainline and have a classic look without breaking the bank, but i am not wedded to these. 4) Rims Velocity Synergy 650b with DT double butted spokes. 5) Cog - with a 46t ring, a 17t cog achieves 70. Again - a good place to start. I live in an area that is pretty flat with a few rolling hills but nothing too steep. I really like the WI DOS ENO 2-Speed 17/19 from a quality and versatility perspective. The fact that, for a lot of you, the QB is your favorite among many other great Rivendells (I have a Custom, Atlantis and Sam) is exciting - each of mine serves a different purpose and I never get tired of them. Thank you again for your help! On Thursday, March 6, 2014 9:09:06 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.comwrote: I have a WI 17/19 on mine, and really like that option. Gives just enough difference at times. But I rarely go to the 32T front chainring. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.a...@skadden.com wrote: I agree with Minh that when you’re on a SS, it changes your perspective. I just don’t mind walking if the need arises – just another pleasant way to get where I’m going. *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Minh *Sent:* Thursday, March 06, 2014 4:50 PM *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam My QB came with the 40x26, ended up moving it to my SH as i never bothered shifting to the 26. I now use a single 42, it may depend on your terrain, but i can handle hills fine, and those i can't i just get off and walk, it's not that big a deal. i have a WI Dos FW 17/19, and even that i rarely switch. a single-speed changes your perspective, it's hard to understand coming from a multi-gear bike. i strongly suggest you get the bike rideable as soon as possible and see what works for you. i ride 42/17, i'm not the strongest rider but it works for me! also concur with Tom, QB is my favorite bike in the bunch. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 9:14:40 PM UTC-5, djbardwil wrote: The more I hear about the fixed gear bicycle experience, the more it seems that putting on a 2 speed kickback hub is missing the point. It seems that dialing in on the gearing is half the fun - it's a bike for tinkerers. My QB originally had the Sugino XD Double; does the double chainring typically get used in both rings or do most just keep it on the larger 40 ring with the 26 ring for the rare occasion? I'm wondering if a single crank like the Sugino RD with either a 46
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if you were a masher. I have a 170 track set that I have had for decades on my Simple One now, and that has always seemed fine. When I bought a bike that came with 165s on it that worked great. I had 172.5 on my race bike but eventually went back to 170 and I think I prefer it that way. If I had built my SO up from from scratch with no stuff on hand I probably would have gone with 165 or 167.5. I think you won't know what you like until you try some variations. On Friday, March 7, 2014 4:26:01 AM UTC-8, djbardwil wrote: Good call on checking the BB ted and I may go to 170 on the crank for the smidge of leverage gain. I also found this slick new White Industries Track Hubset which would mate well with the DOS ENO: https://www.benscycle.com/p-1524-white-industries-track-hubset-fixfree-32h-120mm.aspxhttps://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.benscycle.com%2Fp-1524-white-industries-track-hubset-fixfree-32h-120mm.aspxsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNGthDg6vCqdmZcPcTpFwjdadpBdfQ ? From what I can tell, it seems that Fixed Gear hubs are differentiated from Track hubs based on rear spacing of 130 vs 120 (the QB span) respectively. On Friday, March 7, 2014 12:33:13 AM UTC-5, ted wrote: All sounds very nice. Shorter cranks are traditional track gear. Where 175 may be normal for mtn bikes and 170 normal for road bikes, 165 is sort of normal for a track bike. With a single ring and normal single speed chain line you shouldn't have any trouble with clearance between the ring and frame. If you are using standard geared bike ring and chain, chain line is not really all that critical. If you do want to get chain line just so, the phil bb and its two ended adjustment is real handy. Mounting your chosen crank on the bb that came in your frame will let you decide what length bb you want to use. Just measure the line you get with the one thats already there, and adjust accordingly before ordering a new one. On Thursday, March 6, 2014 7:20:38 PM UTC-8, djbardwil wrote: I am blocked at work from checking the RBW postings and tonight I found I couldn't wait to get home to check - thanks Patrick (dig the shirt much), ted, Pudge, David and Minh for your perspectives. And with that, the order by which to choose components and considerations seems: 1) Crankset - single ring makes sense; modest number of teeth, between 40 and 46; I like the Sugino RD and it comes in 165mm arm (I am a short legged being), with choice of 46t or 48t. Many of you have a lower # of teeth but I need to start somewhere. Not sure of the RD's chainline (i've seen conflicting 44 or 42) but as close to the rear hub / cog chainline as possible. 2) Bottom bracket - my QB came with a 113mm but each crankset has its own recommended BB mm. The Sugino RD, with 130 BCD, is coupled with a 103mm BB. If I go with Sugino's recommended 103mm, which is lower than Riv's 110mm general recommendation, must I worry about ring clearance against the frame? 3) Hubs - Not sure which brand to go with. I saw these on Ben's: https://www.benscycle.com/p-3458-milwaukee-bicycle-co-hubset-32h-fixfree.aspx They achieve a 42mm chainline and have a classic look without breaking the bank, but i am not wedded to these. 4) Rims Velocity Synergy 650b with DT double butted spokes. 5) Cog - with a 46t ring, a 17t cog achieves 70. Again - a good place to start. I live in an area that is pretty flat with a few rolling hills but nothing too steep. I really like the WI DOS ENO 2-Speed 17/19 from a quality and versatility perspective. The fact that, for a lot of you, the QB is your favorite among many other great Rivendells (I have a Custom, Atlantis and Sam) is exciting - each of mine serves a different purpose and I never get tired of them. Thank you again for your help! On Thursday, March 6, 2014 9:09:06 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.comwrote: I have a WI 17/19 on mine, and really like that option. Gives just enough difference at times. But I rarely go to the 32T front chainring. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.a...@skadden.com wrote: I agree with Minh that when you’re on a SS, it changes your perspective. I just don’t mind walking if the need arises – just another pleasant way to get where I’m going. *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Minh *Sent:* Thursday, March 06, 2014 4:50 PM *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam My QB came with the 40x26, ended up moving it to my SH as i never bothered shifting to the 26. I now use a single 42, it may depend on your terrain, but i can handle hills fine, and those i can't i just get off and walk, it's not that big a deal. i have a WI Dos FW 17/19, and even that i rarely switch
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a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.a...@skadden.com wrote: I agree with Minh that when you’re on a SS, it changes your perspective. I just don’t mind walking if the need arises – just another pleasant way to get where I’m going. *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Minh *Sent:* Thursday, March 06, 2014 4:50 PM *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam My QB came with the 40x26, ended up moving it to my SH as i never bothered shifting to the 26. I now use a single 42, it may depend on your terrain, but i can handle hills fine, and those i can't i just get off and walk, it's not that big a deal. i have a WI Dos FW 17/19, and even that i rarely switch. a single-speed changes your perspective, it's hard to understand coming from a multi-gear bike. i strongly suggest you get the bike rideable as soon as possible and see what works for you. i ride 42/17, i'm not the strongest rider but it works for me! also concur with Tom, QB is my favorite bike in the bunch. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 9:14:40 PM UTC-5, djbardwil wrote: The more I hear about the fixed gear bicycle experience, the more it seems that putting on a 2 speed kickback hub is missing the point. It seems that dialing in on the gearing is half the fun - it's a bike for tinkerers. My QB originally had the Sugino XD Double; does the double chainring typically get used in both rings or do most just keep it on the larger 40 ring with the 26 ring for the rare occasion? I'm wondering if a single crank like the Sugino RD with either a 46 or 48 ring is best. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 12:48:51 PM UTC-5, Esteban wrote: Oh, yea. I have a QB too. Had one years ago, too big. This one, just right. 40x16 free 15 fixed. 68 gets me up almost any hill in town (with some zig zag), and I try to spin out on flats for exercise. Its a fantastic bike. You'll love it. Everyone should have one :) Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Thursday, February 27, 2014 12:04:36 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote: I have a Quickbeam. I'm obsessed with gearing, and always come back to about a 72. Currently I'm re-enamored of fixed gear riding, with a single 44t ring, a 15t cog and a 17/21 dingle cog. I do have a Sachs Automatic wheel with a coaster brake, and I agree that the coaster brake messes up my mojo. I have considered the S2 (no C) hub, and will probably build one at some point. The Quickbeam is great - I'd ride mine anywhere, in any terrain, on any surface. Philip www.biketinker.com On Thursday, February 27, 2014 8:42:58 AM UTC-8, djbardwil wrote: Pudge - If I go with the SA 2 speed, it would be without coaster brake. Minh - You are right on the argument. Simple and pure is what I want with this build as well as a new perspective on riding. A broadening of horizons On Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:37:38 AM UTC-5, Minh wrote: Just a thought, when i got my QB, i also was (unnecessarily) worried about gearing, additional speeds and now that i've had it i never both switching in the rear (WI DUO) and switched to a single-ring front. if you have the wheels already to get it on the road, you might be surprised at how fast you adjust to a single gear. nothing wrong if you really want to mess with the SA 2 speeds, but there is something pure about a single-speed QB that changes your perspective on riding. On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 10:54:23 PM UTC-5, djbardwil wrote: Well, I am thrilled to be the very lucky winner of the auction and admit my addiction to Rivendell. I was a bit surprised that only one bid came through but it is a small frame and the dead of winter so the audience may have been limited. Apparently, there are only 30 of these 50 cm QBs. It should be a great project and I intend to take it slowly and thoughtfully as I've never built up a non-derailleur bicycle. Initial thought was to possibly try out the Sturmey-Archer 2-speed Kickback hub as the basis of a wheel build and possibly a Sturmey-Archer crankset but I'll need to do some homework on gearing, spacing, chainline etc. Nothing is set in stone at the moment and each component will be a new decision point but, barring the possible S-A components, it will clearly be a Rivendell build when it's done. I enjoy this group very much and value your input, stories, and camaraderie. Photos will prove the project is underway! Thanks - David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group
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I’ve had my Quickbeam for 4 years, and it remains my favorite bike (I also have a Homer, an Atlantis, a Bombadil, and the Mystery Bike). I have shifted to the small ring exactly once, just to see what it was like. Rolling country around here, but no long sustained climbing. 68 gear inches works great for me for that kind of terrain. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ted Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 10:23 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam If you are going to buy the whole fixed gear esthetic, you quibble over even a single tooth so you will want the option for odd tooth rings. Eighth inch chains, cogs and rings are nice too. You might want a 144bcd crank like the Sugino 75, if you don't mind a lower limit of 42t on your rings. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 6:14:40 PM UTC-8, djbardwil wrote: The more I hear about the fixed gear bicycle experience, the more it seems that putting on a 2 speed kickback hub is missing the point. It seems that dialing in on the gearing is half the fun - it's a bike for tinkerers. My QB originally had the Sugino XD Double; does the double chainring typically get used in both rings or do most just keep it on the larger 40 ring with the 26 ring for the rare occasion? I'm wondering if a single crank like the Sugino RD with either a 46 or 48 ring is best. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 12:48:51 PM UTC-5, Esteban wrote: Oh, yea. I have a QB too. Had one years ago, too big. This one, just right. 40x16 free 15 fixed. 68 gets me up almost any hill in town (with some zig zag), and I try to spin out on flats for exercise. Its a fantastic bike. You'll love it. Everyone should have one :) Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Thursday, February 27, 2014 12:04:36 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote: I have a Quickbeam. I'm obsessed with gearing, and always come back to about a 72. Currently I'm re-enamored of fixed gear riding, with a single 44t ring, a 15t cog and a 17/21 dingle cog. I do have a Sachs Automatic wheel with a coaster brake, and I agree that the coaster brake messes up my mojo. I have considered the S2 (no C) hub, and will probably build one at some point. The Quickbeam is great - I'd ride mine anywhere, in any terrain, on any surface. Philip www.biketinker.comhttp://www.biketinker.com On Thursday, February 27, 2014 8:42:58 AM UTC-8, djbardwil wrote: Pudge - If I go with the SA 2 speed, it would be without coaster brake. Minh - You are right on the argument. Simple and pure is what I want with this build as well as a new perspective on riding. A broadening of horizons On Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:37:38 AM UTC-5, Minh wrote: Just a thought, when i got my QB, i also was (unnecessarily) worried about gearing, additional speeds and now that i've had it i never both switching in the rear (WI DUO) and switched to a single-ring front. if you have the wheels already to get it on the road, you might be surprised at how fast you adjust to a single gear. nothing wrong if you really want to mess with the SA 2 speeds, but there is something pure about a single-speed QB that changes your perspective on riding. On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 10:54:23 PM UTC-5, djbardwil wrote: Well, I am thrilled to be the very lucky winner of the auction and admit my addiction to Rivendell. I was a bit surprised that only one bid came through but it is a small frame and the dead of winter so the audience may have been limited. Apparently, there are only 30 of these 50 cm QBs. It should be a great project and I intend to take it slowly and thoughtfully as I've never built up a non-derailleur bicycle. Initial thought was to possibly try out the Sturmey-Archer 2-speed Kickback hub as the basis of a wheel build and possibly a Sturmey-Archer crankset but I'll need to do some homework on gearing, spacing, chainline etc. Nothing is set in stone at the moment and each component will be a new decision point but, barring the possible S-A components, it will clearly be a Rivendell build when it's done. I enjoy this group very much and value your input, stories, and camaraderie. Photos will prove the project is underway! Thanks - David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations
[RBW] Re: Mini-Beam
My QB came with the 40x26, ended up moving it to my SH as i never bothered shifting to the 26. I now use a single 42, it may depend on your terrain, but i can handle hills fine, and those i can't i just get off and walk, it's not that big a deal. i have a WI Dos FW 17/19, and even that i rarely switch. a single-speed changes your perspective, it's hard to understand coming from a multi-gear bike. i strongly suggest you get the bike rideable as soon as possible and see what works for you. i ride 42/17, i'm not the strongest rider but it works for me! also concur with Tom, QB is my favorite bike in the bunch. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 9:14:40 PM UTC-5, djbardwil wrote: The more I hear about the fixed gear bicycle experience, the more it seems that putting on a 2 speed kickback hub is missing the point. It seems that dialing in on the gearing is half the fun - it's a bike for tinkerers. My QB originally had the Sugino XD Double; does the double chainring typically get used in both rings or do most just keep it on the larger 40 ring with the 26 ring for the rare occasion? I'm wondering if a single crank like the Sugino RD with either a 46 or 48 ring is best. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 12:48:51 PM UTC-5, Esteban wrote: Oh, yea. I have a QB too. Had one years ago, too big. This one, just right. 40x16 free 15 fixed. 68 gets me up almost any hill in town (with some zig zag), and I try to spin out on flats for exercise. Its a fantastic bike. You'll love it. Everyone should have one :) Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Thursday, February 27, 2014 12:04:36 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote: I have a Quickbeam. I'm obsessed with gearing, and always come back to about a 72. Currently I'm re-enamored of fixed gear riding, with a single 44t ring, a 15t cog and a 17/21 dingle cog. I do have a Sachs Automatic wheel with a coaster brake, and I agree that the coaster brake messes up my mojo. I have considered the S2 (no C) hub, and will probably build one at some point. The Quickbeam is great - I'd ride mine anywhere, in any terrain, on any surface. Philip www.biketinker.com On Thursday, February 27, 2014 8:42:58 AM UTC-8, djbardwil wrote: Pudge - If I go with the SA 2 speed, it would be without coaster brake. Minh - You are right on the argument. Simple and pure is what I want with this build as well as a new perspective on riding. A broadening of horizons On Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:37:38 AM UTC-5, Minh wrote: Just a thought, when i got my QB, i also was (unnecessarily) worried about gearing, additional speeds and now that i've had it i never both switching in the rear (WI DUO) and switched to a single-ring front. if you have the wheels already to get it on the road, you might be surprised at how fast you adjust to a single gear. nothing wrong if you really want to mess with the SA 2 speeds, but there is something pure about a single-speed QB that changes your perspective on riding. On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 10:54:23 PM UTC-5, djbardwil wrote: Well, I am thrilled to be the very lucky winner of the auction and admit my addiction to Rivendell. I was a bit surprised that only one bid came through but it is a small frame and the dead of winter so the audience may have been limited. Apparently, there are only 30 of these 50 cm QBs. It should be a great project and I intend to take it slowly and thoughtfully as I've never built up a non-derailleur bicycle. Initial thought was to possibly try out the Sturmey-Archer 2-speed Kickback hub as the basis of a wheel build and possibly a Sturmey-Archer crankset but I'll need to do some homework on gearing, spacing, chainline etc. Nothing is set in stone at the moment and each component will be a new decision point but, barring the possible S-A components, it will clearly be a Rivendell build when it's done. I enjoy this group very much and value your input, stories, and camaraderie. Photos will prove the project is underway! Thanks - David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam
I agree with Minh that when you’re on a SS, it changes your perspective. I just don’t mind walking if the need arises – just another pleasant way to get where I’m going. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Minh Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 4:50 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam My QB came with the 40x26, ended up moving it to my SH as i never bothered shifting to the 26. I now use a single 42, it may depend on your terrain, but i can handle hills fine, and those i can't i just get off and walk, it's not that big a deal. i have a WI Dos FW 17/19, and even that i rarely switch. a single-speed changes your perspective, it's hard to understand coming from a multi-gear bike. i strongly suggest you get the bike rideable as soon as possible and see what works for you. i ride 42/17, i'm not the strongest rider but it works for me! also concur with Tom, QB is my favorite bike in the bunch. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 9:14:40 PM UTC-5, djbardwil wrote: The more I hear about the fixed gear bicycle experience, the more it seems that putting on a 2 speed kickback hub is missing the point. It seems that dialing in on the gearing is half the fun - it's a bike for tinkerers. My QB originally had the Sugino XD Double; does the double chainring typically get used in both rings or do most just keep it on the larger 40 ring with the 26 ring for the rare occasion? I'm wondering if a single crank like the Sugino RD with either a 46 or 48 ring is best. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 12:48:51 PM UTC-5, Esteban wrote: Oh, yea. I have a QB too. Had one years ago, too big. This one, just right. 40x16 free 15 fixed. 68 gets me up almost any hill in town (with some zig zag), and I try to spin out on flats for exercise. Its a fantastic bike. You'll love it. Everyone should have one :) Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Thursday, February 27, 2014 12:04:36 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote: I have a Quickbeam. I'm obsessed with gearing, and always come back to about a 72. Currently I'm re-enamored of fixed gear riding, with a single 44t ring, a 15t cog and a 17/21 dingle cog. I do have a Sachs Automatic wheel with a coaster brake, and I agree that the coaster brake messes up my mojo. I have considered the S2 (no C) hub, and will probably build one at some point. The Quickbeam is great - I'd ride mine anywhere, in any terrain, on any surface. Philip www.biketinker.comhttp://www.biketinker.com On Thursday, February 27, 2014 8:42:58 AM UTC-8, djbardwil wrote: Pudge - If I go with the SA 2 speed, it would be without coaster brake. Minh - You are right on the argument. Simple and pure is what I want with this build as well as a new perspective on riding. A broadening of horizons On Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:37:38 AM UTC-5, Minh wrote: Just a thought, when i got my QB, i also was (unnecessarily) worried about gearing, additional speeds and now that i've had it i never both switching in the rear (WI DUO) and switched to a single-ring front. if you have the wheels already to get it on the road, you might be surprised at how fast you adjust to a single gear. nothing wrong if you really want to mess with the SA 2 speeds, but there is something pure about a single-speed QB that changes your perspective on riding. On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 10:54:23 PM UTC-5, djbardwil wrote: Well, I am thrilled to be the very lucky winner of the auction and admit my addiction to Rivendell. I was a bit surprised that only one bid came through but it is a small frame and the dead of winter so the audience may have been limited. Apparently, there are only 30 of these 50 cm QBs. It should be a great project and I intend to take it slowly and thoughtfully as I've never built up a non-derailleur bicycle. Initial thought was to possibly try out the Sturmey-Archer 2-speed Kickback hub as the basis of a wheel build and possibly a Sturmey-Archer crankset but I'll need to do some homework on gearing, spacing, chainline etc. Nothing is set in stone at the moment and each component will be a new decision point but, barring the possible S-A components, it will clearly be a Rivendell build when it's done. I enjoy this group very much and value your input, stories, and camaraderie. Photos will prove the project is underway! Thanks - David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out
Re: [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam
I have a WI 17/19 on mine, and really like that option. Gives just enough difference at times. But I rarely go to the 32T front chainring. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: I agree with Minh that when you're on a SS, it changes your perspective. I just don't mind walking if the need arises - just another pleasant way to get where I'm going. *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Minh *Sent:* Thursday, March 06, 2014 4:50 PM *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam My QB came with the 40x26, ended up moving it to my SH as i never bothered shifting to the 26. I now use a single 42, it may depend on your terrain, but i can handle hills fine, and those i can't i just get off and walk, it's not that big a deal. i have a WI Dos FW 17/19, and even that i rarely switch. a single-speed changes your perspective, it's hard to understand coming from a multi-gear bike. i strongly suggest you get the bike rideable as soon as possible and see what works for you. i ride 42/17, i'm not the strongest rider but it works for me! also concur with Tom, QB is my favorite bike in the bunch. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 9:14:40 PM UTC-5, djbardwil wrote: The more I hear about the fixed gear bicycle experience, the more it seems that putting on a 2 speed kickback hub is missing the point. It seems that dialing in on the gearing is half the fun - it's a bike for tinkerers. My QB originally had the Sugino XD Double; does the double chainring typically get used in both rings or do most just keep it on the larger 40 ring with the 26 ring for the rare occasion? I'm wondering if a single crank like the Sugino RD with either a 46 or 48 ring is best. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 12:48:51 PM UTC-5, Esteban wrote: Oh, yea. I have a QB too. Had one years ago, too big. This one, just right. 40x16 free 15 fixed. 68 gets me up almost any hill in town (with some zig zag), and I try to spin out on flats for exercise. Its a fantastic bike. You'll love it. Everyone should have one :) Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Thursday, February 27, 2014 12:04:36 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote: I have a Quickbeam. I'm obsessed with gearing, and always come back to about a 72. Currently I'm re-enamored of fixed gear riding, with a single 44t ring, a 15t cog and a 17/21 dingle cog. I do have a Sachs Automatic wheel with a coaster brake, and I agree that the coaster brake messes up my mojo. I have considered the S2 (no C) hub, and will probably build one at some point. The Quickbeam is great - I'd ride mine anywhere, in any terrain, on any surface. Philip www.biketinker.com On Thursday, February 27, 2014 8:42:58 AM UTC-8, djbardwil wrote: Pudge - If I go with the SA 2 speed, it would be without coaster brake. Minh - You are right on the argument. Simple and pure is what I want with this build as well as a new perspective on riding. A broadening of horizons On Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:37:38 AM UTC-5, Minh wrote: Just a thought, when i got my QB, i also was (unnecessarily) worried about gearing, additional speeds and now that i've had it i never both switching in the rear (WI DUO) and switched to a single-ring front. if you have the wheels already to get it on the road, you might be surprised at how fast you adjust to a single gear. nothing wrong if you really want to mess with the SA 2 speeds, but there is something pure about a single-speed QB that changes your perspective on riding. On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 10:54:23 PM UTC-5, djbardwil wrote: Well, I am thrilled to be the very lucky winner of the auction and admit my addiction to Rivendell. I was a bit surprised that only one bid came through but it is a small frame and the dead of winter so the audience may have been limited. Apparently, there are only 30 of these 50 cm QBs. It should be a great project and I intend to take it slowly and thoughtfully as I've never built up a non-derailleur bicycle. Initial thought was to possibly try out the Sturmey-Archer 2-speed Kickback hub as the basis of a wheel build and possibly a Sturmey-Archer crankset but I'll need to do some homework on gearing, spacing, chainline etc. Nothing is set in stone at the moment and each component will be a new decision point but, barring the possible S-A components, it will clearly be a Rivendell build when it's done. I enjoy this group very much and value your input, stories, and camaraderie. Photos will prove the project is underway! Thanks - David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
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I am blocked at work from checking the RBW postings and tonight I found I couldn't wait to get home to check - thanks Patrick (dig the shirt much), ted, Pudge, David and Minh for your perspectives. And with that, the order by which to choose components and considerations seems: 1) Crankset - single ring makes sense; modest number of teeth, between 40 and 46; I like the Sugino RD and it comes in 165mm arm (I am a short legged being), with choice of 46t or 48t. Many of you have a lower # of teeth but I need to start somewhere. Not sure of the RD's chainline (i've seen conflicting 44 or 42) but as close to the rear hub / cog chainline as possible. 2) Bottom bracket - my QB came with a 113mm but each crankset has its own recommended BB mm. The Sugino RD, with 130 BCD, is coupled with a 103mm BB. If I go with Sugino's recommended 103mm, which is lower than Riv's 110mm general recommendation, must I worry about ring clearance against the frame? 3) Hubs - Not sure which brand to go with. I saw these on Ben's: https://www.benscycle.com/p-3458-milwaukee-bicycle-co-hubset-32h-fixfree.aspx They achieve a 42mm chainline and have a classic look without breaking the bank, but i am not wedded to these. 4) Rims Velocity Synergy 650b with DT double butted spokes. 5) Cog - with a 46t ring, a 17t cog achieves 70. Again - a good place to start. I live in an area that is pretty flat with a few rolling hills but nothing too steep. I really like the WI DOS ENO 2-Speed 17/19 from a quality and versatility perspective. The fact that, for a lot of you, the QB is your favorite among many other great Rivendells (I have a Custom, Atlantis and Sam) is exciting - each of mine serves a different purpose and I never get tired of them. Thank you again for your help! On Thursday, March 6, 2014 9:09:06 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: I have a WI 17/19 on mine, and really like that option. Gives just enough difference at times. But I rarely go to the 32T front chainring. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.a...@skadden.com javascript: wrote: I agree with Minh that when you’re on a SS, it changes your perspective. I just don’t mind walking if the need arises – just another pleasant way to get where I’m going. *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *Minh *Sent:* Thursday, March 06, 2014 4:50 PM *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam My QB came with the 40x26, ended up moving it to my SH as i never bothered shifting to the 26. I now use a single 42, it may depend on your terrain, but i can handle hills fine, and those i can't i just get off and walk, it's not that big a deal. i have a WI Dos FW 17/19, and even that i rarely switch. a single-speed changes your perspective, it's hard to understand coming from a multi-gear bike. i strongly suggest you get the bike rideable as soon as possible and see what works for you. i ride 42/17, i'm not the strongest rider but it works for me! also concur with Tom, QB is my favorite bike in the bunch. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 9:14:40 PM UTC-5, djbardwil wrote: The more I hear about the fixed gear bicycle experience, the more it seems that putting on a 2 speed kickback hub is missing the point. It seems that dialing in on the gearing is half the fun - it's a bike for tinkerers. My QB originally had the Sugino XD Double; does the double chainring typically get used in both rings or do most just keep it on the larger 40 ring with the 26 ring for the rare occasion? I'm wondering if a single crank like the Sugino RD with either a 46 or 48 ring is best. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 12:48:51 PM UTC-5, Esteban wrote: Oh, yea. I have a QB too. Had one years ago, too big. This one, just right. 40x16 free 15 fixed. 68 gets me up almost any hill in town (with some zig zag), and I try to spin out on flats for exercise. Its a fantastic bike. You'll love it. Everyone should have one :) Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Thursday, February 27, 2014 12:04:36 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote: I have a Quickbeam. I'm obsessed with gearing, and always come back to about a 72. Currently I'm re-enamored of fixed gear riding, with a single 44t ring, a 15t cog and a 17/21 dingle cog. I do have a Sachs Automatic wheel with a coaster brake, and I agree that the coaster brake messes up my mojo. I have considered the S2 (no C) hub, and will probably build one at some point. The Quickbeam is great - I'd ride mine anywhere, in any terrain, on any surface. Philip www.biketinker.com On Thursday, February 27, 2014 8:42:58 AM UTC-8, djbardwil wrote: Pudge - If I go
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All sounds very nice. Shorter cranks are traditional track gear. Where 175 may be normal for mtn bikes and 170 normal for road bikes, 165 is sort of normal for a track bike. With a single ring and normal single speed chain line you shouldn't have any trouble with clearance between the ring and frame. If you are using standard geared bike ring and chain, chain line is not really all that critical. If you do want to get chain line just so, the phil bb and its two ended adjustment is real handy. Mounting your chosen crank on the bb that came in your frame will let you decide what length bb you want to use. Just measure the line you get with the one thats already there, and adjust accordingly before ordering a new one. On Thursday, March 6, 2014 7:20:38 PM UTC-8, djbardwil wrote: I am blocked at work from checking the RBW postings and tonight I found I couldn't wait to get home to check - thanks Patrick (dig the shirt much), ted, Pudge, David and Minh for your perspectives. And with that, the order by which to choose components and considerations seems: 1) Crankset - single ring makes sense; modest number of teeth, between 40 and 46; I like the Sugino RD and it comes in 165mm arm (I am a short legged being), with choice of 46t or 48t. Many of you have a lower # of teeth but I need to start somewhere. Not sure of the RD's chainline (i've seen conflicting 44 or 42) but as close to the rear hub / cog chainline as possible. 2) Bottom bracket - my QB came with a 113mm but each crankset has its own recommended BB mm. The Sugino RD, with 130 BCD, is coupled with a 103mm BB. If I go with Sugino's recommended 103mm, which is lower than Riv's 110mm general recommendation, must I worry about ring clearance against the frame? 3) Hubs - Not sure which brand to go with. I saw these on Ben's: https://www.benscycle.com/p-3458-milwaukee-bicycle-co-hubset-32h-fixfree.aspx They achieve a 42mm chainline and have a classic look without breaking the bank, but i am not wedded to these. 4) Rims Velocity Synergy 650b with DT double butted spokes. 5) Cog - with a 46t ring, a 17t cog achieves 70. Again - a good place to start. I live in an area that is pretty flat with a few rolling hills but nothing too steep. I really like the WI DOS ENO 2-Speed 17/19 from a quality and versatility perspective. The fact that, for a lot of you, the QB is your favorite among many other great Rivendells (I have a Custom, Atlantis and Sam) is exciting - each of mine serves a different purpose and I never get tired of them. Thank you again for your help! On Thursday, March 6, 2014 9:09:06 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: I have a WI 17/19 on mine, and really like that option. Gives just enough difference at times. But I rarely go to the 32T front chainring. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.a...@skadden.com wrote: I agree with Minh that when you’re on a SS, it changes your perspective. I just don’t mind walking if the need arises – just another pleasant way to get where I’m going. *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Minh *Sent:* Thursday, March 06, 2014 4:50 PM *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam My QB came with the 40x26, ended up moving it to my SH as i never bothered shifting to the 26. I now use a single 42, it may depend on your terrain, but i can handle hills fine, and those i can't i just get off and walk, it's not that big a deal. i have a WI Dos FW 17/19, and even that i rarely switch. a single-speed changes your perspective, it's hard to understand coming from a multi-gear bike. i strongly suggest you get the bike rideable as soon as possible and see what works for you. i ride 42/17, i'm not the strongest rider but it works for me! also concur with Tom, QB is my favorite bike in the bunch. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 9:14:40 PM UTC-5, djbardwil wrote: The more I hear about the fixed gear bicycle experience, the more it seems that putting on a 2 speed kickback hub is missing the point. It seems that dialing in on the gearing is half the fun - it's a bike for tinkerers. My QB originally had the Sugino XD Double; does the double chainring typically get used in both rings or do most just keep it on the larger 40 ring with the 26 ring for the rare occasion? I'm wondering if a single crank like the Sugino RD with either a 46 or 48 ring is best. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 12:48:51 PM UTC-5, Esteban wrote: Oh, yea. I have a QB too. Had one years ago, too big. This one, just right. 40x16 free 15 fixed. 68 gets me up almost any hill in town (with some zig zag), and I try to spin out on flats for exercise. Its a fantastic bike. You'll
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I may have seen a posting of your bike somewhere in my decision process and was completely enamored with the look of blue wrapped drops and blackwalls - stunning look. Yeah, this is the only Riv I've owned that I thought looked better with black sidewalls than tan. The bartape is Fizik Microtex Metalic blue-over Fizik bar gel, it's quite comfortable. Steve On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 5:00 PM, djbardwil djbard...@gmail.com wrote: Steve - I may have seen a posting of your bike somewhere in my decision process and was completely enamored with the look of blue wrapped drops and blackwalls - stunning look. I have a 48 cm / 650b Sam and it is just perfect. Philip - I have a lot to learn with gearing and part of the reason I went this route, but I understand a 3:1 ratio is a good place to start. I am not sure what 72 is referring to but have a new research point to dig into. I appreciate your input. I believe the frame arrives on Monday and I cannot wait to get this project underway! Thanks. On Friday, February 28, 2014 10:46:54 AM UTC-5, stevef wrote: I'm glad you posted, David--I was concerned that the auction didn't mention that this frame is made for 650b wheels, and I was worred that the buyer might not be aware. Since you're here, though, you probably know that! I have a 52cm 650Beam-great little bike..welcome to the club! Steve In its natural habitat: On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:54 PM, djbardwil djba...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I am thrilled to be the very lucky winner of the auction and admit my addiction to Rivendell. I was a bit surprised that only one bid came through but it is a small frame and the dead of winter so the audience may have been limited. Apparently, there are only 30 of these 50 cm QBs. It should be a great project and I intend to take it slowly and thoughtfully as I've never built up a non-derailleur bicycle. Initial thought was to possibly try out the Sturmey-Archer 2-speed Kickback hub as the basis of a wheel build and possibly a Sturmey-Archer crankset but I'll need to do some homework on gearing, spacing, chainline etc. Nothing is set in stone at the moment and each component will be a new decision point but, barring the possible S-A components, it will clearly be a Rivendell build when it's done. I enjoy this group very much and value your input, stories, and camaraderie. Photos will prove the project is underway! Thanks - David On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:52:50 PM UTC-5, Coconutbill wrote: One day... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Mini-Beam
Oh, yea. I have a QB too. Had one years ago, too big. This one, just right. 40x16 free 15 fixed. 68 gets me up almost any hill in town (with some zig zag), and I try to spin out on flats for exercise. Its a fantastic bike. You'll love it. Everyone should have one :) Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Thursday, February 27, 2014 12:04:36 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote: I have a Quickbeam. I'm obsessed with gearing, and always come back to about a 72. Currently I'm re-enamored of fixed gear riding, with a single 44t ring, a 15t cog and a 17/21 dingle cog. I do have a Sachs Automatic wheel with a coaster brake, and I agree that the coaster brake messes up my mojo. I have considered the S2 (no C) hub, and will probably build one at some point. The Quickbeam is great - I'd ride mine anywhere, in any terrain, on any surface. Philip www.biketinker.com On Thursday, February 27, 2014 8:42:58 AM UTC-8, djbardwil wrote: Pudge - If I go with the SA 2 speed, it would be without coaster brake. Minh - You are right on the argument. Simple and pure is what I want with this build as well as a new perspective on riding. A broadening of horizons On Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:37:38 AM UTC-5, Minh wrote: Just a thought, when i got my QB, i also was (unnecessarily) worried about gearing, additional speeds and now that i've had it i never both switching in the rear (WI DUO) and switched to a single-ring front. if you have the wheels already to get it on the road, you might be surprised at how fast you adjust to a single gear. nothing wrong if you really want to mess with the SA 2 speeds, but there is something pure about a single-speed QB that changes your perspective on riding. On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 10:54:23 PM UTC-5, djbardwil wrote: Well, I am thrilled to be the very lucky winner of the auction and admit my addiction to Rivendell. I was a bit surprised that only one bid came through but it is a small frame and the dead of winter so the audience may have been limited. Apparently, there are only 30 of these 50 cm QBs. It should be a great project and I intend to take it slowly and thoughtfully as I've never built up a non-derailleur bicycle. Initial thought was to possibly try out the Sturmey-Archer 2-speed Kickback hub as the basis of a wheel build and possibly a Sturmey-Archer crankset but I'll need to do some homework on gearing, spacing, chainline etc. Nothing is set in stone at the moment and each component will be a new decision point but, barring the possible S-A components, it will clearly be a Rivendell build when it's done. I enjoy this group very much and value your input, stories, and camaraderie. Photos will prove the project is underway! Thanks - David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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The more I hear about the fixed gear bicycle experience, the more it seems that putting on a 2 speed kickback hub is missing the point. It seems that dialing in on the gearing is half the fun - it's a bike for tinkerers. My QB originally had the Sugino XD Double; does the double chainring typically get used in both rings or do most just keep it on the larger 40 ring with the 26 ring for the rare occasion? I'm wondering if a single crank like the Sugino RD with either a 46 or 48 ring is best. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 12:48:51 PM UTC-5, Esteban wrote: Oh, yea. I have a QB too. Had one years ago, too big. This one, just right. 40x16 free 15 fixed. 68 gets me up almost any hill in town (with some zig zag), and I try to spin out on flats for exercise. Its a fantastic bike. You'll love it. Everyone should have one :) Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Thursday, February 27, 2014 12:04:36 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote: I have a Quickbeam. I'm obsessed with gearing, and always come back to about a 72. Currently I'm re-enamored of fixed gear riding, with a single 44t ring, a 15t cog and a 17/21 dingle cog. I do have a Sachs Automatic wheel with a coaster brake, and I agree that the coaster brake messes up my mojo. I have considered the S2 (no C) hub, and will probably build one at some point. The Quickbeam is great - I'd ride mine anywhere, in any terrain, on any surface. Philip www.biketinker.com On Thursday, February 27, 2014 8:42:58 AM UTC-8, djbardwil wrote: Pudge - If I go with the SA 2 speed, it would be without coaster brake. Minh - You are right on the argument. Simple and pure is what I want with this build as well as a new perspective on riding. A broadening of horizons On Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:37:38 AM UTC-5, Minh wrote: Just a thought, when i got my QB, i also was (unnecessarily) worried about gearing, additional speeds and now that i've had it i never both switching in the rear (WI DUO) and switched to a single-ring front. if you have the wheels already to get it on the road, you might be surprised at how fast you adjust to a single gear. nothing wrong if you really want to mess with the SA 2 speeds, but there is something pure about a single-speed QB that changes your perspective on riding. On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 10:54:23 PM UTC-5, djbardwil wrote: Well, I am thrilled to be the very lucky winner of the auction and admit my addiction to Rivendell. I was a bit surprised that only one bid came through but it is a small frame and the dead of winter so the audience may have been limited. Apparently, there are only 30 of these 50 cm QBs. It should be a great project and I intend to take it slowly and thoughtfully as I've never built up a non-derailleur bicycle. Initial thought was to possibly try out the Sturmey-Archer 2-speed Kickback hub as the basis of a wheel build and possibly a Sturmey-Archer crankset but I'll need to do some homework on gearing, spacing, chainline etc. Nothing is set in stone at the moment and each component will be a new decision point but, barring the possible S-A components, it will clearly be a Rivendell build when it's done. I enjoy this group very much and value your input, stories, and camaraderie. Photos will prove the project is underway! Thanks - David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Mini-Beam
If you are going to buy the whole fixed gear esthetic, you quibble over even a single tooth so you will want the option for odd tooth rings. Eighth inch chains, cogs and rings are nice too. You might want a 144bcd crank like the Sugino 75, if you don't mind a lower limit of 42t on your rings. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 6:14:40 PM UTC-8, djbardwil wrote: The more I hear about the fixed gear bicycle experience, the more it seems that putting on a 2 speed kickback hub is missing the point. It seems that dialing in on the gearing is half the fun - it's a bike for tinkerers. My QB originally had the Sugino XD Double; does the double chainring typically get used in both rings or do most just keep it on the larger 40 ring with the 26 ring for the rare occasion? I'm wondering if a single crank like the Sugino RD with either a 46 or 48 ring is best. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 12:48:51 PM UTC-5, Esteban wrote: Oh, yea. I have a QB too. Had one years ago, too big. This one, just right. 40x16 free 15 fixed. 68 gets me up almost any hill in town (with some zig zag), and I try to spin out on flats for exercise. Its a fantastic bike. You'll love it. Everyone should have one :) Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Thursday, February 27, 2014 12:04:36 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote: I have a Quickbeam. I'm obsessed with gearing, and always come back to about a 72. Currently I'm re-enamored of fixed gear riding, with a single 44t ring, a 15t cog and a 17/21 dingle cog. I do have a Sachs Automatic wheel with a coaster brake, and I agree that the coaster brake messes up my mojo. I have considered the S2 (no C) hub, and will probably build one at some point. The Quickbeam is great - I'd ride mine anywhere, in any terrain, on any surface. Philip www.biketinker.com On Thursday, February 27, 2014 8:42:58 AM UTC-8, djbardwil wrote: Pudge - If I go with the SA 2 speed, it would be without coaster brake. Minh - You are right on the argument. Simple and pure is what I want with this build as well as a new perspective on riding. A broadening of horizons On Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:37:38 AM UTC-5, Minh wrote: Just a thought, when i got my QB, i also was (unnecessarily) worried about gearing, additional speeds and now that i've had it i never both switching in the rear (WI DUO) and switched to a single-ring front. if you have the wheels already to get it on the road, you might be surprised at how fast you adjust to a single gear. nothing wrong if you really want to mess with the SA 2 speeds, but there is something pure about a single-speed QB that changes your perspective on riding. On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 10:54:23 PM UTC-5, djbardwil wrote: Well, I am thrilled to be the very lucky winner of the auction and admit my addiction to Rivendell. I was a bit surprised that only one bid came through but it is a small frame and the dead of winter so the audience may have been limited. Apparently, there are only 30 of these 50 cm QBs. It should be a great project and I intend to take it slowly and thoughtfully as I've never built up a non-derailleur bicycle. Initial thought was to possibly try out the Sturmey-Archer 2-speed Kickback hub as the basis of a wheel build and possibly a Sturmey-Archer crankset but I'll need to do some homework on gearing, spacing, chainline etc. Nothing is set in stone at the moment and each component will be a new decision point but, barring the possible S-A components, it will clearly be a Rivendell build when it's done. I enjoy this group very much and value your input, stories, and camaraderie. Photos will prove the project is underway! Thanks - David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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I'm glad you posted, David--I was concerned that the auction didn't mention that this frame is made for 650b wheels, and I was worred that the buyer might not be aware. Since you're here, though, you probably know that! I have a 52cm 650Beam-great little bike..welcome to the club! Steve In its natural habitat: On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:54 PM, djbardwil djbard...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I am thrilled to be the very lucky winner of the auction and admit my addiction to Rivendell. I was a bit surprised that only one bid came through but it is a small frame and the dead of winter so the audience may have been limited. Apparently, there are only 30 of these 50 cm QBs. It should be a great project and I intend to take it slowly and thoughtfully as I've never built up a non-derailleur bicycle. Initial thought was to possibly try out the Sturmey-Archer 2-speed Kickback hub as the basis of a wheel build and possibly a Sturmey-Archer crankset but I'll need to do some homework on gearing, spacing, chainline etc. Nothing is set in stone at the moment and each component will be a new decision point but, barring the possible S-A components, it will clearly be a Rivendell build when it's done. I enjoy this group very much and value your input, stories, and camaraderie. Photos will prove the project is underway! Thanks - David On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:52:50 PM UTC-5, Coconutbill wrote: One day... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Steve - I may have seen a posting of your bike somewhere in my decision process and was completely enamored with the look of blue wrapped drops and blackwalls - stunning look. I have a 48 cm / 650b Sam and it is just perfect. Philip - I have a lot to learn with gearing and part of the reason I went this route, but I understand a 3:1 ratio is a good place to start. I am not sure what 72 is referring to but have a new research point to dig into. I appreciate your input. I believe the frame arrives on Monday and I cannot wait to get this project underway! Thanks. On Friday, February 28, 2014 10:46:54 AM UTC-5, stevef wrote: I'm glad you posted, David--I was concerned that the auction didn't mention that this frame is made for 650b wheels, and I was worred that the buyer might not be aware. Since you're here, though, you probably know that! I have a 52cm 650Beam-great little bike..welcome to the club! Steve In its natural habitat: On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:54 PM, djbardwil djba...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Well, I am thrilled to be the very lucky winner of the auction and admit my addiction to Rivendell. I was a bit surprised that only one bid came through but it is a small frame and the dead of winter so the audience may have been limited. Apparently, there are only 30 of these 50 cm QBs. It should be a great project and I intend to take it slowly and thoughtfully as I've never built up a non-derailleur bicycle. Initial thought was to possibly try out the Sturmey-Archer 2-speed Kickback hub as the basis of a wheel build and possibly a Sturmey-Archer crankset but I'll need to do some homework on gearing, spacing, chainline etc. Nothing is set in stone at the moment and each component will be a new decision point but, barring the possible S-A components, it will clearly be a Rivendell build when it's done. I enjoy this group very much and value your input, stories, and camaraderie. Photos will prove the project is underway! Thanks - David On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:52:50 PM UTC-5, Coconutbill wrote: One day... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam
I don't think so although it seems like a nice, reasonable set. The 2 speed hub is intriguing and I'd like to see if I can learn a thing or two about wheelbuilding on this bike. A dynohub on the front would be neat. If anyone has any experience with this hub or just thoughts, I'd love to hear what should be considered. On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:36:07 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Perfect, glad it has a good new home! You going to get the wheelset they're selling as well? Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 7:54 PM, djbardwil djba...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Well, I am thrilled to be the very lucky winner of the auction and admit my addiction to Rivendell. I was a bit surprised that only one bid came through but it is a small frame and the dead of winter so the audience may have been limited. Apparently, there are only 30 of these 50 cm QBs. It should be a great project and I intend to take it slowly and thoughtfully as I've never built up a non-derailleur bicycle. Initial thought was to possibly try out the Sturmey-Archer 2-speed Kickback hub as the basis of a wheel build and possibly a Sturmey-Archer crankset but I'll need to do some homework on gearing, spacing, chainline etc. Nothing is set in stone at the moment and each component will be a new decision point but, barring the possible S-A components, it will clearly be a Rivendell build when it's done. I enjoy this group very much and value your input, stories, and camaraderie. Photos will prove the project is underway! Thanks - David On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:52:50 PM UTC-5, Coconutbill wrote: One day... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam
Building a wheel is pretty fun and relatively easy to do a basic job on. Especially when you have a specific build in mind. Have fun! Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 3:53 AM, djbardwil djbard...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think so although it seems like a nice, reasonable set. The 2 speed hub is intriguing and I'd like to see if I can learn a thing or two about wheelbuilding on this bike. A dynohub on the front would be neat. If anyone has any experience with this hub or just thoughts, I'd love to hear what should be considered. On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:36:07 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.comwrote: Perfect, glad it has a good new home! You going to get the wheelset they're selling as well? Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 7:54 PM, djbardwil djba...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I am thrilled to be the very lucky winner of the auction and admit my addiction to Rivendell. I was a bit surprised that only one bid came through but it is a small frame and the dead of winter so the audience may have been limited. Apparently, there are only 30 of these 50 cm QBs. It should be a great project and I intend to take it slowly and thoughtfully as I've never built up a non-derailleur bicycle. Initial thought was to possibly try out the Sturmey-Archer 2-speed Kickback hub as the basis of a wheel build and possibly a Sturmey-Archer crankset but I'll need to do some homework on gearing, spacing, chainline etc. Nothing is set in stone at the moment and each component will be a new decision point but, barring the possible S-A components, it will clearly be a Rivendell build when it's done. I enjoy this group very much and value your input, stories, and camaraderie. Photos will prove the project is underway! Thanks - David On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:52:50 PM UTC-5, Coconutbill wrote: One day... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam
I built a wheel with the SRAM 2-speed hub (originally for my SimpleOne, but have since moved it to a different bike). I love this hub. It is different than the SA kickback in that it is not a kickback, but instead shifts automatically from one speed to the other at a preset point. For my wheel and tire size, that worked out to be around 12 mph. I preferred to have it shift at a slightly higher rate and, with instructions found on the internets, I was able to raise the shift point to about 15 mph. After a best guess of 15,000 miles or so, I can say that this hub seems very reliable. When I did open it up to change the shift points, I did clean it out real good, repacked the bearings and added some Phil's oil to splash around in there. David Charlotte, NC On Thursday, February 27, 2014 6:53:19 AM UTC-5, djbardwil wrote: I don't think so although it seems like a nice, reasonable set. The 2 speed hub is intriguing and I'd like to see if I can learn a thing or two about wheelbuilding on this bike. A dynohub on the front would be neat. If anyone has any experience with this hub or just thoughts, I'd love to hear what should be considered. On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:36:07 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.comwrote: Perfect, glad it has a good new home! You going to get the wheelset they're selling as well? Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 7:54 PM, djbardwil djba...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I am thrilled to be the very lucky winner of the auction and admit my addiction to Rivendell. I was a bit surprised that only one bid came through but it is a small frame and the dead of winter so the audience may have been limited. Apparently, there are only 30 of these 50 cm QBs. It should be a great project and I intend to take it slowly and thoughtfully as I've never built up a non-derailleur bicycle. Initial thought was to possibly try out the Sturmey-Archer 2-speed Kickback hub as the basis of a wheel build and possibly a Sturmey-Archer crankset but I'll need to do some homework on gearing, spacing, chainline etc. Nothing is set in stone at the moment and each component will be a new decision point but, barring the possible S-A components, it will clearly be a Rivendell build when it's done. I enjoy this group very much and value your input, stories, and camaraderie. Photos will prove the project is underway! Thanks - David On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:52:50 PM UTC-5, Coconutbill wrote: One day... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam
I built a wheel for my MB-2 Resurrectio project using the SA 2 speed coaster brake kickback hub. So far the hub has been very reliable, and it’s a great simple solution if you’re looking for just a little more gear range. If I were doing it again, however, I’d prefer not to use the coaster brake iteration of the Kickback; sometimes braking and shifting attempts interact in an unexpected way (probably my lack of finesse). SA does make a non-coaster brake version, and I bet that’s terrific. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Spranger Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 10:15 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam I built a wheel with the SRAM 2-speed hub (originally for my SimpleOne, but have since moved it to a different bike). I love this hub. It is different than the SA kickback in that it is not a kickback, but instead shifts automatically from one speed to the other at a preset point. For my wheel and tire size, that worked out to be around 12 mph. I preferred to have it shift at a slightly higher rate and, with instructions found on the internets, I was able to raise the shift point to about 15 mph. After a best guess of 15,000 miles or so, I can say that this hub seems very reliable. When I did open it up to change the shift points, I did clean it out real good, repacked the bearings and added some Phil's oil to splash around in there. David Charlotte, NC On Thursday, February 27, 2014 6:53:19 AM UTC-5, djbardwil wrote: I don't think so although it seems like a nice, reasonable set. The 2 speed hub is intriguing and I'd like to see if I can learn a thing or two about wheelbuilding on this bike. A dynohub on the front would be neat. If anyone has any experience with this hub or just thoughts, I'd love to hear what should be considered. On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:36:07 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.commailto:cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Perfect, glad it has a good new home! You going to get the wheelset they're selling as well? Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 7:54 PM, djbardwil djba...@gmail.commailto:djba...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I am thrilled to be the very lucky winner of the auction and admit my addiction to Rivendell. I was a bit surprised that only one bid came through but it is a small frame and the dead of winter so the audience may have been limited. Apparently, there are only 30 of these 50 cm QBs. It should be a great project and I intend to take it slowly and thoughtfully as I've never built up a non-derailleur bicycle. Initial thought was to possibly try out the Sturmey-Archer 2-speed Kickback hub as the basis of a wheel build and possibly a Sturmey-Archer crankset but I'll need to do some homework on gearing, spacing, chainline etc. Nothing is set in stone at the moment and each component will be a new decision point but, barring the possible S-A components, it will clearly be a Rivendell build when it's done. I enjoy this group very much and value your input, stories, and camaraderie. Photos will prove the project is underway! Thanks - David On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:52:50 PM UTC-5, Coconutbill wrote: One day... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein
[RBW] Re: Mini-Beam
Just a thought, when i got my QB, i also was (unnecessarily) worried about gearing, additional speeds and now that i've had it i never both switching in the rear (WI DUO) and switched to a single-ring front. if you have the wheels already to get it on the road, you might be surprised at how fast you adjust to a single gear. nothing wrong if you really want to mess with the SA 2 speeds, but there is something pure about a single-speed QB that changes your perspective on riding. On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 10:54:23 PM UTC-5, djbardwil wrote: Well, I am thrilled to be the very lucky winner of the auction and admit my addiction to Rivendell. I was a bit surprised that only one bid came through but it is a small frame and the dead of winter so the audience may have been limited. Apparently, there are only 30 of these 50 cm QBs. It should be a great project and I intend to take it slowly and thoughtfully as I've never built up a non-derailleur bicycle. Initial thought was to possibly try out the Sturmey-Archer 2-speed Kickback hub as the basis of a wheel build and possibly a Sturmey-Archer crankset but I'll need to do some homework on gearing, spacing, chainline etc. Nothing is set in stone at the moment and each component will be a new decision point but, barring the possible S-A components, it will clearly be a Rivendell build when it's done. I enjoy this group very much and value your input, stories, and camaraderie. Photos will prove the project is underway! Thanks - David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Mini-Beam
Pudge - If I go with the SA 2 speed, it would be without coaster brake. Minh - You are right on the argument. Simple and pure is what I want with this build as well as a new perspective on riding. A broadening of horizons On Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:37:38 AM UTC-5, Minh wrote: Just a thought, when i got my QB, i also was (unnecessarily) worried about gearing, additional speeds and now that i've had it i never both switching in the rear (WI DUO) and switched to a single-ring front. if you have the wheels already to get it on the road, you might be surprised at how fast you adjust to a single gear. nothing wrong if you really want to mess with the SA 2 speeds, but there is something pure about a single-speed QB that changes your perspective on riding. On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 10:54:23 PM UTC-5, djbardwil wrote: Well, I am thrilled to be the very lucky winner of the auction and admit my addiction to Rivendell. I was a bit surprised that only one bid came through but it is a small frame and the dead of winter so the audience may have been limited. Apparently, there are only 30 of these 50 cm QBs. It should be a great project and I intend to take it slowly and thoughtfully as I've never built up a non-derailleur bicycle. Initial thought was to possibly try out the Sturmey-Archer 2-speed Kickback hub as the basis of a wheel build and possibly a Sturmey-Archer crankset but I'll need to do some homework on gearing, spacing, chainline etc. Nothing is set in stone at the moment and each component will be a new decision point but, barring the possible S-A components, it will clearly be a Rivendell build when it's done. I enjoy this group very much and value your input, stories, and camaraderie. Photos will prove the project is underway! Thanks - David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Mini-Beam
I have a Quickbeam. I'm obsessed with gearing, and always come back to about a 72. Currently I'm re-enamored of fixed gear riding, with a single 44t ring, a 15t cog and a 17/21 dingle cog. I do have a Sachs Automatic wheel with a coaster brake, and I agree that the coaster brake messes up my mojo. I have considered the S2 (no C) hub, and will probably build one at some point. The Quickbeam is great - I'd ride mine anywhere, in any terrain, on any surface. Philip www.biketinker.com On Thursday, February 27, 2014 8:42:58 AM UTC-8, djbardwil wrote: Pudge - If I go with the SA 2 speed, it would be without coaster brake. Minh - You are right on the argument. Simple and pure is what I want with this build as well as a new perspective on riding. A broadening of horizons On Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:37:38 AM UTC-5, Minh wrote: Just a thought, when i got my QB, i also was (unnecessarily) worried about gearing, additional speeds and now that i've had it i never both switching in the rear (WI DUO) and switched to a single-ring front. if you have the wheels already to get it on the road, you might be surprised at how fast you adjust to a single gear. nothing wrong if you really want to mess with the SA 2 speeds, but there is something pure about a single-speed QB that changes your perspective on riding. On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 10:54:23 PM UTC-5, djbardwil wrote: Well, I am thrilled to be the very lucky winner of the auction and admit my addiction to Rivendell. I was a bit surprised that only one bid came through but it is a small frame and the dead of winter so the audience may have been limited. Apparently, there are only 30 of these 50 cm QBs. It should be a great project and I intend to take it slowly and thoughtfully as I've never built up a non-derailleur bicycle. Initial thought was to possibly try out the Sturmey-Archer 2-speed Kickback hub as the basis of a wheel build and possibly a Sturmey-Archer crankset but I'll need to do some homework on gearing, spacing, chainline etc. Nothing is set in stone at the moment and each component will be a new decision point but, barring the possible S-A components, it will clearly be a Rivendell build when it's done. I enjoy this group very much and value your input, stories, and camaraderie. Photos will prove the project is underway! Thanks - David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Mini-Beam
I think the same seller was also selling a 650b Suzue/Synergy wheelset for it. I guess probably the stock wheels that came with it. I personally prefer the orange and green versions, but that was a nice deal for somebody! If that 68 'Beam was offered on its own, I would seriously be considering it .. KJ On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 12:34:24 AM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Did anyone get this? http://www.ebay.com/itm/141200519966 The price was right! Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Mini-Beam
That last litter of Quickbeams finally came out with the small size; I remember it well because it was AFTER I bought my 51cm Proto Bleriot frame and turned it into a faux 'beam using a White Industries ENO hub that I even found used from Mark Abele. No regrets though since I love love love my proto. -liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Mini-Beam
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[RBW] Re: Mini-Beam
Well, I am thrilled to be the very lucky winner of the auction and admit my addiction to Rivendell. I was a bit surprised that only one bid came through but it is a small frame and the dead of winter so the audience may have been limited. Apparently, there are only 30 of these 50 cm QBs. It should be a great project and I intend to take it slowly and thoughtfully as I've never built up a non-derailleur bicycle. Initial thought was to possibly try out the Sturmey-Archer 2-speed Kickback hub as the basis of a wheel build and possibly a Sturmey-Archer crankset but I'll need to do some homework on gearing, spacing, chainline etc. Nothing is set in stone at the moment and each component will be a new decision point but, barring the possible S-A components, it will clearly be a Rivendell build when it's done. I enjoy this group very much and value your input, stories, and camaraderie. Photos will prove the project is underway! Thanks - David On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:52:50 PM UTC-5, Coconutbill wrote: One day... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam
Perfect, glad it has a good new home! You going to get the wheelset they're selling as well? Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 7:54 PM, djbardwil djbard...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I am thrilled to be the very lucky winner of the auction and admit my addiction to Rivendell. I was a bit surprised that only one bid came through but it is a small frame and the dead of winter so the audience may have been limited. Apparently, there are only 30 of these 50 cm QBs. It should be a great project and I intend to take it slowly and thoughtfully as I've never built up a non-derailleur bicycle. Initial thought was to possibly try out the Sturmey-Archer 2-speed Kickback hub as the basis of a wheel build and possibly a Sturmey-Archer crankset but I'll need to do some homework on gearing, spacing, chainline etc. Nothing is set in stone at the moment and each component will be a new decision point but, barring the possible S-A components, it will clearly be a Rivendell build when it's done. I enjoy this group very much and value your input, stories, and camaraderie. Photos will prove the project is underway! Thanks - David On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:52:50 PM UTC-5, Coconutbill wrote: One day... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
