Re: [RBW] Re: More jewelry from Nitto
Speaking of self promotion, have y'all heard of these? http://www.bgcycles.com/rock-n-road-tire.html On Thursday, June 5, 2014 4:34:07 PM UTC-7, ken.m...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys this kind of talk is supposed to happen in February. On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Steve Palincsar pali...@his.com javascript: wrote: On 06/05/2014 02:55 PM, Evan Baird wrote: That is quite an endorsement. http://about.me/evanbaird/ or, as someone on this list used to say, Shameless self promotion? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Where did the spring go? Where did my hormones go? Where did my energy go? Where did my go go? Where did the pleasure go? Where did my hair go? -- Ray Davies -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: More jewelry from Nitto
The problem with nylon, or using the King / Nitto without straps as a fancy half clip, is the rider can flatten rather than get the foot into them when accelerating from a stand still such as from a traffic signal. The BG half clips especially paired with White platforms but also on such diverse pedals as vintage Campy Record Stradas and MKS RX-1 is so natural. Perhaps half clips not optimal for pure speed or beach cruising. I find them very good for touring. They hold the foot in place well enough on long stretches but allow me to quickly get my foot down when stopping with a loaded bike. Sure, could do the same clipless. But clipless means bringing a second pair of shoes for off bike portion of my tours, something I really do not like doing. Walking shoes take up too much space in the panniers for me. On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 10:21:02 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: I think the BG half-clips really look fine, but my daughter rides half-clips on one bike and hers are nylon, we both ride Ale's on our go-fast bikes, and I ride Grip Kings on my utility bike. Maybe one day I'll have the bike for them. On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 9:10:40 PM UTC-5, danmc wrote: I love my BG half toe clips on White Industries pedals. On Jun 4, 2014, at 6:50 PM, Matthew J matth...@gmail.com wrote: Either ride flats or clip in. Says you. I am a huge fan of Bruce Gordon half clips. They are on all of my bikes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: More jewelry from Nitto
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote: The problem with nylon, or using the King / Nitto without straps as a fancy half clip, is the rider can flatten rather than get the foot into them when accelerating from a stand still such as from a traffic signal. I rode toeclips for 15+ years and I don't have problems with flattening the cage. So I think it's a matter of what you are accustomed to and proficient with. I see people struggling to get into clip-ins all the time, so I don't think it's that different. I still ride toeclips on my tandem. I like to wear normal shoes and toeclips are the best way to ride with what you brung, if you want to be attached to the pedals. The rest of the time, I do ride flat pedals because I don't think I am losing that much by not being attached to the pedals. Most of the time I am able to keep up with all but the fastest rando riders on the long distance rides I do. If I am not able to keep up with the medium pace group, the foot/pedal interface has never been the problem. It's usually not having had slept enough, eaten enough, drank enough, or something else going wrong with the engine. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: More jewelry from Nitto
I rode toeclips for 15+ years and I don't have problems with flattening the cage. So I think it's a matter of what you are accustomed to and proficient with. I see people struggling to get into clip-ins all the time, so I don't think it's that different. My reference above is to using the nylon and King / new Nitto style without straps. In my experience the straps themselves provide an assist to getting into the pedal. Even with fairly thick shoes and socks the rider can tell almost instantaneously whether properly in the cage or not. Riding half clip without straps you really do not feel the clip until putting full weight on the pedal. When hurrying from a traffic light on crowded streets that can result in misplaced feet squishing the half clip. At least for me this never happens with the BG half clips. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: More jewelry from Nitto
Umm, are you fucking kidding me? Is this really appropriate? One of the reasons I follow this group is the respect that posters show other posters. I just don't see a need for this (never mind you are talking to Bruce Gordon who love him or hate him is an important person in American bicycles). Cheers! Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: More jewelry from Nitto
Maybe I just don't get how capitalism works, but the way I understand it is if you make a commodity and supply is outpaced by demand then other suppliers enter the market and stimulate competition. You can either increase production and compete on volume or raise your prices and hope that your brand is stronger. Novel ideas are awatded patents. You can't whinge that somebody copied your idea that was a copy of sombody else's in the first place. If competition isn't youre thing get a patent or consider setting up shop in North Korea. I hear there's a brisk market for custom touring bikes there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: More jewelry from Nitto
I dunno, this seems personal now. Maybe take this issue off-list. On Jun 5, 2014 11:24 AM, Evan Baird vanster...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe I just don't get how capitalism works, but the way I understand it is if you make a commodity and supply is outpaced by demand then other suppliers enter the market and stimulate competition. You can either increase production and compete on volume or raise your prices and hope that your brand is stronger. Novel ideas are awatded patents. You can't whinge that somebody copied your idea that was a copy of sombody else's in the first place. If competition isn't youre thing get a patent or consider setting up shop in North Korea. I hear there's a brisk market for custom touring bikes there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: More jewelry from Nitto
Wait, is this about toe cages or something else? Has Ron/King Cage not been able to keep pace with market demand? He (KC) is an admirable source for very specific, handmade USA accessories and is just the sort of small business I hate to see undermined (even by Nitto)... not that it hasn't happened to him before (cough, Velo Lemon cough). My $.02, everybody be coool ok? =- Joe Bunik 'nut Creek, CA On 6/5/14, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: I dunno, this seems personal now. Maybe take this issue off-list. On Jun 5, 2014 11:24 AM, Evan Baird vanster...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe I just don't get how capitalism works, but the way I understand it is if you make a commodity and supply is outpaced by demand then other suppliers enter the market and stimulate competition. You can either increase production and compete on volume or raise your prices and hope that your brand is stronger. Novel ideas are awatded patents. You can't whinge that somebody copied your idea that was a copy of sombody else's in the first place. If competition isn't youre thing get a patent or consider setting up shop in North Korea. I hear there's a brisk market for custom touring bikes there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: More jewelry from Nitto
Evan wins the coveted I was mean to Bruce Gordon button. On Thursday, June 5, 2014 8:42:50 AM UTC-7, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: Wait, is this about toe cages or something else? Has Ron/King Cage not been able to keep pace with market demand? He (KC) is an admirable source for very specific, handmade USA accessories and is just the sort of small business I hate to see undermined (even by Nitto)... not that it hasn't happened to him before (cough, Velo Lemon cough). My $.02, everybody be coool ok? =- Joe Bunik 'nut Creek, CA On 6/5/14, Peter Morgano uscpet...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I dunno, this seems personal now. Maybe take this issue off-list. On Jun 5, 2014 11:24 AM, Evan Baird vanst...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Maybe I just don't get how capitalism works, but the way I understand it is if you make a commodity and supply is outpaced by demand then other suppliers enter the market and stimulate competition. You can either increase production and compete on volume or raise your prices and hope that your brand is stronger. Novel ideas are awatded patents. You can't whinge that somebody copied your idea that was a copy of sombody else's in the first place. If competition isn't youre thing get a patent or consider setting up shop in North Korea. I hear there's a brisk market for custom touring bikes there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: More jewelry from Nitto
Wait, is this about toe cages or something else? Has Ron/King Cage not been able to keep pace with market demand? He (KC) is an admirable source for very specific, handmade USA accessories and is just the sort of small business I hate to see undermined (even by Nitto)... not that it hasn't happened to him before (cough, Velo Lemon cough). My take as well. Convert the linked price in pounds to dollars the savings on the MKS version is not all that much. Benefits working directly with a small manufacturer seem more than worth the slight upcharge. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: More jewelry from Nitto
All my hopes dreams are fulfilled! On Thursday, June 5, 2014 9:56:53 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: Evan wins the coveted I was mean to Bruce Gordon button. On Thursday, June 5, 2014 8:42:50 AM UTC-7, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: Wait, is this about toe cages or something else? Has Ron/King Cage not been able to keep pace with market demand? He (KC) is an admirable source for very specific, handmade USA accessories and is just the sort of small business I hate to see undermined (even by Nitto)... not that it hasn't happened to him before (cough, Velo Lemon cough). My $.02, everybody be coool ok? =- Joe Bunik 'nut Creek, CA On 6/5/14, Peter Morgano uscpet...@gmail.com wrote: I dunno, this seems personal now. Maybe take this issue off-list. On Jun 5, 2014 11:24 AM, Evan Baird vanst...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe I just don't get how capitalism works, but the way I understand it is if you make a commodity and supply is outpaced by demand then other suppliers enter the market and stimulate competition. You can either increase production and compete on volume or raise your prices and hope that your brand is stronger. Novel ideas are awatded patents. You can't whinge that somebody copied your idea that was a copy of sombody else's in the first place. If competition isn't youre thing get a patent or consider setting up shop in North Korea. I hear there's a brisk market for custom touring bikes there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: More jewelry from Nitto
How small and sad a victory. On Jun 5, 2014 1:06 PM, Evan Baird vanster...@gmail.com wrote: All my hopes dreams are fulfilled! On Thursday, June 5, 2014 9:56:53 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: Evan wins the coveted I was mean to Bruce Gordon button. On Thursday, June 5, 2014 8:42:50 AM UTC-7, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: Wait, is this about toe cages or something else? Has Ron/King Cage not been able to keep pace with market demand? He (KC) is an admirable source for very specific, handmade USA accessories and is just the sort of small business I hate to see undermined (even by Nitto)... not that it hasn't happened to him before (cough, Velo Lemon cough). My $.02, everybody be coool ok? =- Joe Bunik 'nut Creek, CA On 6/5/14, Peter Morgano uscpet...@gmail.com wrote: I dunno, this seems personal now. Maybe take this issue off-list. On Jun 5, 2014 11:24 AM, Evan Baird vanst...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe I just don't get how capitalism works, but the way I understand it is if you make a commodity and supply is outpaced by demand then other suppliers enter the market and stimulate competition. You can either increase production and compete on volume or raise your prices and hope that your brand is stronger. Novel ideas are awatded patents. You can't whinge that somebody copied your idea that was a copy of sombody else's in the first place. If competition isn't youre thing get a patent or consider setting up shop in North Korea. I hear there's a brisk market for custom touring bikes there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: More jewelry from Nitto
Being this cranky requires years of dedication and practice. I'm still new at it. On Thursday, June 5, 2014 10:07:22 AM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: How small and sad a victory. On Jun 5, 2014 1:06 PM, Evan Baird vanst...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: All my hopes dreams are fulfilled! On Thursday, June 5, 2014 9:56:53 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: Evan wins the coveted I was mean to Bruce Gordon button. On Thursday, June 5, 2014 8:42:50 AM UTC-7, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: Wait, is this about toe cages or something else? Has Ron/King Cage not been able to keep pace with market demand? He (KC) is an admirable source for very specific, handmade USA accessories and is just the sort of small business I hate to see undermined (even by Nitto)... not that it hasn't happened to him before (cough, Velo Lemon cough). My $.02, everybody be coool ok? =- Joe Bunik 'nut Creek, CA On 6/5/14, Peter Morgano uscpet...@gmail.com wrote: I dunno, this seems personal now. Maybe take this issue off-list. On Jun 5, 2014 11:24 AM, Evan Baird vanst...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe I just don't get how capitalism works, but the way I understand it is if you make a commodity and supply is outpaced by demand then other suppliers enter the market and stimulate competition. You can either increase production and compete on volume or raise your prices and hope that your brand is stronger. Novel ideas are awatded patents. You can't whinge that somebody copied your idea that was a copy of sombody else's in the first place. If competition isn't youre thing get a patent or consider setting up shop in North Korea. I hear there's a brisk market for custom touring bikes there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: More jewelry from Nitto
Dear Evan and All Who have been following this thread, You said being cranky requires years of dedication and practice, and that you are new at it. I'd say you are pretty good at it already. My question for you is do you work in the bike biz??? Who do you work for??? Regards, Bruce Gordon www.bgcycles.com www.brucegordoncycles.blogspot.com (707) 762-5601 On Jun 5, 2014, at 10:14 AM, Evan Baird vanster...@gmail.com wrote: Being this cranky requires years of dedication and practice. I'm still new at it. On Thursday, June 5, 2014 10:07:22 AM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: How small and sad a victory. On Jun 5, 2014 1:06 PM, Evan Baird vanst...@gmail.com wrote: All my hopes dreams are fulfilled! On Thursday, June 5, 2014 9:56:53 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: Evan wins the coveted I was mean to Bruce Gordon button. On Thursday, June 5, 2014 8:42:50 AM UTC-7, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: Wait, is this about toe cages or something else? Has Ron/King Cage not been able to keep pace with market demand? He (KC) is an admirable source for very specific, handmade USA accessories and is just the sort of small business I hate to see undermined (even by Nitto)... not that it hasn't happened to him before (cough, Velo Lemon cough). My $.02, everybody be coool ok? =- Joe Bunik 'nut Creek, CA On 6/5/14, Peter Morgano uscpet...@gmail.com wrote: I dunno, this seems personal now. Maybe take this issue off-list. On Jun 5, 2014 11:24 AM, Evan Baird vanst...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe I just don't get how capitalism works, but the way I understand it is if you make a commodity and supply is outpaced by demand then other suppliers enter the market and stimulate competition. You can either increase production and compete on volume or raise your prices and hope that your brand is stronger. Novel ideas are awatded patents. You can't whinge that somebody copied your idea that was a copy of sombody else's in the first place. If competition isn't youre thing get a patent or consider setting up shop in North Korea. I hear there's a brisk market for custom touring bikes there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: More jewelry from Nitto
That is quite an endorsement. http://about.me/evanbaird/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: More jewelry from Nitto
My question for you is do you work in the bike biz??? I do not work in the bike business. But having bought four steel and one Ti Bruce Gordon half clips over the years I think I am qualified to say they are very good! On Thursday, June 5, 2014 1:13:46 PM UTC-5, bgcycles wrote: Dear Evan and All Who have been following this thread, You said being cranky requires years of dedication and practice, and that you are new at it. I’d say you are pretty good at it already. My question for you is do you work in the bike biz??? Who do you work for??? Regards, Bruce Gordon www.bgcycles.com www.brucegordoncycles.blogspot.com (707) 762-5601 On Jun 5, 2014, at 10:14 AM, Evan Baird vanst...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Being this cranky requires years of dedication and practice. I'm still new at it. On Thursday, June 5, 2014 10:07:22 AM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: How small and sad a victory. On Jun 5, 2014 1:06 PM, Evan Baird vanst...@gmail.com wrote: All my hopes dreams are fulfilled! On Thursday, June 5, 2014 9:56:53 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: Evan wins the coveted I was mean to Bruce Gordon button. On Thursday, June 5, 2014 8:42:50 AM UTC-7, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: Wait, is this about toe cages or something else? Has Ron/King Cage not been able to keep pace with market demand? He (KC) is an admirable source for very specific, handmade USA accessories and is just the sort of small business I hate to see undermined (even by Nitto)... not that it hasn't happened to him before (cough, Velo Lemon cough). My $.02, everybody be coool ok? =- Joe Bunik 'nut Creek, CA On 6/5/14, Peter Morgano uscpet...@gmail.com wrote: I dunno, this seems personal now. Maybe take this issue off-list. On Jun 5, 2014 11:24 AM, Evan Baird vanst...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe I just don't get how capitalism works, but the way I understand it is if you make a commodity and supply is outpaced by demand then other suppliers enter the market and stimulate competition. You can either increase production and compete on volume or raise your prices and hope that your brand is stronger. Novel ideas are awatded patents. You can't whinge that somebody copied your idea that was a copy of sombody else's in the first place. If competition isn't youre thing get a patent or consider setting up shop in North Korea. I hear there's a brisk market for custom touring bikes there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: More jewelry from Nitto
No question about it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: More jewelry from Nitto
So you work at Merry sales and Interloc, then this is some personal thing and doesn't belong on the group feed, IMO. On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote: My question for you is do you work in the bike biz??? I do not work in the bike business. But having bought four steel and one Ti Bruce Gordon half clips over the years I think I am qualified to say they are very good! On Thursday, June 5, 2014 1:13:46 PM UTC-5, bgcycles wrote: Dear Evan and All Who have been following this thread, You said being cranky requires years of dedication and practice, and that you are new at it. I’d say you are pretty good at it already. My question for you is do you work in the bike biz??? Who do you work for??? Regards, Bruce Gordon www.bgcycles.com www.brucegordoncycles.blogspot.com (707) 762-5601 On Jun 5, 2014, at 10:14 AM, Evan Baird vanst...@gmail.com wrote: Being this cranky requires years of dedication and practice. I'm still new at it. On Thursday, June 5, 2014 10:07:22 AM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: How small and sad a victory. On Jun 5, 2014 1:06 PM, Evan Baird vanst...@gmail.com wrote: All my hopes dreams are fulfilled! On Thursday, June 5, 2014 9:56:53 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: Evan wins the coveted I was mean to Bruce Gordon button. On Thursday, June 5, 2014 8:42:50 AM UTC-7, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: Wait, is this about toe cages or something else? Has Ron/King Cage not been able to keep pace with market demand? He (KC) is an admirable source for very specific, handmade USA accessories and is just the sort of small business I hate to see undermined (even by Nitto)... not that it hasn't happened to him before (cough, Velo Lemon cough). My $.02, everybody be coool ok? =- Joe Bunik 'nut Creek, CA On 6/5/14, Peter Morgano uscpet...@gmail.com wrote: I dunno, this seems personal now. Maybe take this issue off-list. On Jun 5, 2014 11:24 AM, Evan Baird vanst...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe I just don't get how capitalism works, but the way I understand it is if you make a commodity and supply is outpaced by demand then other suppliers enter the market and stimulate competition. You can either increase production and compete on volume or raise your prices and hope that your brand is stronger. Novel ideas are awatded patents. You can't whinge that somebody copied your idea that was a copy of sombody else's in the first place. If competition isn't youre thing get a patent or consider setting up shop in North Korea. I hear there's a brisk market for custom touring bikes there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group /rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
Re: [RBW] Re: More jewelry from Nitto
I agree. Keep your personal gripes to yourself. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: More jewelry from Nitto
Nice attitude, luckily how you act doesn't reflect on your brand, oh wait. On Jun 5, 2014 3:14 PM, Evan Baird vanster...@gmail.com wrote: I agree. Keep your personal gripes to yourself. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: More jewelry from Nitto
Obviously Evan is campaigning to win Soma/Merry Sales a coveted SOPWAMTOS Golden Toidy Award. Grant of Rivendell won one in 2005, so this thread remains On Topic. On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: Nice attitude, luckily how you act doesn't reflect on your brand, oh wait. On Jun 5, 2014 3:14 PM, Evan Baird vanster...@gmail.com wrote: I agree. Keep your personal gripes to yourself. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: More jewelry from Nitto
I may or may not work in the bike industry- I hardly see how that is relevant here. My point was that we should be respectful. I don't think that is unreasonable. Cheers! Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: More jewelry from Nitto
Just for the record, I only ride Gripkings. Toe clips are strictly for suckers who want to break their ankles. On Thursday, June 5, 2014 12:39:03 PM UTC-7, David G wrote: Obviously Evan is campaigning to win Soma/Merry Sales a coveted SOPWAMTOS Golden Toidy Award. Grant of Rivendell won one in 2005, so this thread remains On Topic. On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Peter Morgano uscpet...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Nice attitude, luckily how you act doesn't reflect on your brand, oh wait. On Jun 5, 2014 3:14 PM, Evan Baird vanst...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I agree. Keep your personal gripes to yourself. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: More jewelry from Nitto
That is quite an endorsement. http://about.me/evanbaird/ http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2Fevanbaird%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNFDbpDUNN6SlVPC1tYOuGvAV22XSw Based on my experience with IRD freewheels, not sure I would claim an association with them as bicycle props. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: More jewelry from Nitto
Haha fair point. I meant this part. You said being cranky requires years of dedication and practice, and that you are new at it. I’d say you are pretty good at it already. On Thursday, June 5, 2014 1:41:38 PM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote: That is quite an endorsement. http://about.me/evanbaird/ http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2Fevanbaird%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNFDbpDUNN6SlVPC1tYOuGvAV22XSw Based on my experience with IRD freewheels, not sure I would claim an association with them as bicycle props. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: More jewelry from Nitto
Haha BG's original point is that Nitto's product is a direct copy of one from a small US shop which is still in production. He's right. On Thursday, June 5, 2014 1:44:49 PM UTC-7, Evan Baird wrote: Haha fair point. I meant this part. You said being cranky requires years of dedication and practice, and that you are new at it. I’d say you are pretty good at it already. On Thursday, June 5, 2014 1:41:38 PM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote: That is quite an endorsement. http://about.me/evanbaird/ http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2Fevanbaird%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNFDbpDUNN6SlVPC1tYOuGvAV22XSw Based on my experience with IRD freewheels, not sure I would claim an association with them as bicycle props. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: More jewelry from Nitto
http://www.artofthestate.co.uk/photos/banksy_museum_picasso.jpg On Thursday, June 5, 2014 2:21:57 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: Haha BG's original point is that Nitto's product is a direct copy of one from a small US shop which is still in production. He's right. On Thursday, June 5, 2014 1:44:49 PM UTC-7, Evan Baird wrote: Haha fair point. I meant this part. You said being cranky requires years of dedication and practice, and that you are new at it. I’d say you are pretty good at it already. On Thursday, June 5, 2014 1:41:38 PM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote: That is quite an endorsement. http://about.me/evanbaird/ http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2Fevanbaird%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNFDbpDUNN6SlVPC1tYOuGvAV22XSw Based on my experience with IRD freewheels, not sure I would claim an association with them as bicycle props. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: More jewelry from Nitto
On 06/05/2014 02:55 PM, Evan Baird wrote: That is quite an endorsement. http://about.me/evanbaird/ or, as someone on this list used to say, Shameless self promotion? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: More jewelry from Nitto
Hey guys this kind of talk is supposed to happen in February. On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 06/05/2014 02:55 PM, Evan Baird wrote: That is quite an endorsement. http://about.me/evanbaird/ or, as someone on this list used to say, Shameless self promotion? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Where did the spring go? Where did my hormones go? Where did my energy go? Where did my go go? Where did the pleasure go? Where did my hair go? -- Ray Davies -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: More jewelry from Nitto
... for most of the cycling world the toe clip is long dead. Either ride flats or clip in. Now that tire ... one of the best designs ever and still used by a wide variety of riders. ( not just retro-grouches) ~mike Carlsbad Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: More jewelry from Nitto
Either ride flats or clip in. Says you. I am a huge fan of Bruce Gordon half clips. They are on all of my bikes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: More jewelry from Nitto
I love my BG half toe clips on White Industries pedals. On Jun 4, 2014, at 6:50 PM, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote: Either ride flats or clip in. Says you. I am a huge fan of Bruce Gordon half clips. They are on all of my bikes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: More jewelry from Nitto
I think the BG half-clips really look fine, but my daughter rides half-clips on one bike and hers are nylon, we both ride Ale's on our go-fast bikes, and I ride Grip Kings on my utility bike. Maybe one day I'll have the bike for them. On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 9:10:40 PM UTC-5, danmc wrote: I love my BG half toe clips on White Industries pedals. On Jun 4, 2014, at 6:50 PM, Matthew J matth...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Either ride flats or clip in. Says you. I am a huge fan of Bruce Gordon half clips. They are on all of my bikes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
