Re: [RBW] Re: My Betty Foy after 10 years

[ascpgh]

In response to what Leah wrote: 

"Andy - yes, delight us with your 20 year Ram write-up and beausage. Who 
else has had a bike for a long time and can contribute? Like Pam, I’d 
really enjoy those stories and photos."

I got my 2002 Rambouillet just in time (4pm, afternoon prior to departure) 
to ride across the country with three others on a trip so light I didn't 
have a weather resistant camera small enough to take. Grant said this bike 
would fit me without going custom, so I put on a Nelson Longflap with a 
Bagman support, three cages, a pump, some spare tubes, headed to Yorktown 
to ride across the country with three folks, one I nominally knew as my 
wife's (who demurred from this activity) friend from college. 

I had a slight detour from plans in Colorado when the fresh granite and tar 
chip top road popped my back tire on a winding descent. I couldn't hold a 
line on the flat, had a 35 mph high side dismount, left measurable amounts 
of myself on the road and a separated my left shoulder. After getting up, 
fixing my flat and one of the other's (I was the riding mechanic), finding 
no cell service on three carriers' phones, not a passing car in hours and a 
dark storm across the western sky, I looked at the others who exited their 
wordless shock at my condition observing "Andy, your shoulder's messed up". 
Yes, and help is 48 more miles from here.

What stood out on that evening was how I was able to ride my bike those 
miles into the next town as such. It's been a dependable bike since then 
with all sorts of adventures, iterations, friendships and a few 
sufferfests. At the Nor'Easter curtailed April 2012 Riv Rally East the 
prudent either detoured the rest of the ride at Ohiopyle or hunkered down 
and camped through the storm (Kalamazoo Marc). I stood on  the porch of the 
outfitter providing shuttle for most back to Cumberland, MD trying to reach 
my wife until they closed at 5. I wanted to redirect her to a nearer pick 
up location but was visiting frineds in an equally challenging cell service 
location, so I headed out into the snow on the GAP headed for our 
predetermined pick up site. A long couple of hours on a desolate snow 
covered path on the trusty Ram. 

https://photos.app.goo.gl/9fP8TaUxETEBTgdQ8

I have gotten through many of the pictures to add some context but pictures 
do tell a thousand words...before writing any. I'm still scouring storage 
platforms for other pictures from eras and riding not covered. Work in 
progress. Learned a lot on this bike and from this bike. Grant was right, 
this bike will work for me. 

Andy Cheatham
On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 12:35:07 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

> Your bike mistreated because of its beausage? Never. It is my unvarnished 
> opinion that the mistreated bike is the pristine one. A pristine bike is a 
> parked bike, and Rivs are meant to be ridden. I have one scuff in my 
> raspberry Platypus paint and I don’t even care. More to come, I figure.
>
> Andy - yes, delight us with your 20 year Ram write-up and beausage. Who 
> else has had a bike for a long time and can contribute? Like Pam, I’d 
> really enjoy those stories and photos.
>
> As for me, my Betty Foy was 8 years old when I traded it in for the longer 
> chain-stayed, raspberry Platypus. I learned a lot in those 8 years and you 
> could see it on the frame. I didn’t even know how to raise the handlebars 
> when I got my Betty. I stripped a bolt or two. Mashed the brake cable into 
> the top tube paint job. I used it to pull my kids and haul my dog, and as 
> such, it was tipped over by said kids and dog more than once. Wish I had 
> done a similar write-up!
>
> Leah
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On May 16, 2021, at 7:21 AM, Pam Bikes  wrote:
>
> I was afraid people would give me a hard time for thinking I mistreated 
> my bike.  I'd love to see other bikes in similar condition.  I used to 
> stress over the paint chips but have enjoyed all the rides and have come to 
> realize that bikes are for riding.  If it gets chipped, that's part of the 
> journey.  
>
>
> I'm sure more people have ridden lots more than me.  I just ride mine 
> everyday, everywhere literally.  We're all lucky we have our Rivs before 
> Ultraromancer, Bike Snob and Russ of The Path Less Pedaled got theirs.  
> Rivs may be more hard to come by.  
>
> On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 10:02:36 AM UTC-4 Joel S wrote:
>
>> You use your bike the way we all should (if weather permitted).  Good to 
>> remember the nicks and scratches.  A well used bike.  
>>
>> On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 9:11:15 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>
>>> I wanted to share pictures of a Riv after 10 years with lots of 
>>> beausage.  
>>> I'm terrible at Wordpress and not sure how to format it so it's cobbled 
>>> together but I did put all the pictures there and some fun facts.  I love 
>>> my bike.  It's the one thing I use everyday and enjoy riding it still.
>>>
>>> http://cltspokespeople.org/my-betty-foy-after-10-years/
>>>
>>> 

[RBW] Re: My Betty Foy after 10 years

[Pam Bikes]

If anyone is passing through, I am on Warmshowers and you could ride one of 
my Cheviots if you want.  Please come visit.  Charlotte is a great place to 
ride.  Here's a route where I pieced together many of our greenways.  
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/36054960

On Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 8:41:50 PM UTC-4 Paul Richardson wrote:

> i don't have much new to add here other than to echo others' comments that 
> this bike, and this post, are premium content that i'm very grateful for.  
> thank you for posting it!  i wish charlotte weren't so far away or i'd be 
> down next month for that meet-up, you betcha.
>
> paul
> takoma park, md.
>
> On Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 8:16:04 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:
>
>> That is the best looking Riv I have ever seen.
>>
>> On Tuesday, 18 May 2021 at 02:55:16 UTC+8 JAS wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Pam, you are an inspiration!  Thank you for sharing your trusty Betty 
>>> Foy and all of her beauty marks. She is definitely a work of art.  I'm 
>>> impressed with your mileage, daily riding, hauling ability and dedication 
>>> to helping others learn skills and confidence so they, too, can enjoy 
>>> cycling.   Cheers to you!
>>> RivSisters,
>>> --Joyce
>>> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 9:48:50 AM UTC-7 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>>
 I wanted the picture of the sticker with Grant's quote small and 
 centered so you could read it but couldn't figure out how to do that and 
 make the pictures smaller so you wouldn't need to scroll so much but who 
 has time for that.  I just want to ride my bike.

 On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 10:00:40 AM UTC-4 johnny@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Beautiful bike and I disagree about your wordpress skills. Fun stuff.
>
> On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 9:05:03 AM UTC-7 benjami...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Great write up!
>>
>> On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 9:11:15 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>
>>> I wanted to share pictures of a Riv after 10 years with lots of 
>>> beausage.  
>>> I'm terrible at Wordpress and not sure how to format it so it's 
>>> cobbled together but I did put all the pictures there and some fun 
>>> facts.  
>>> I love my bike.  It's the one thing I use everyday and enjoy riding it 
>>> still.
>>>
>>> http://cltspokespeople.org/my-betty-foy-after-10-years/
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: My Betty Foy after 10 years

[Paul Richardson]

i don't have much new to add here other than to echo others' comments that 
this bike, and this post, are premium content that i'm very grateful for.  
thank you for posting it!  i wish charlotte weren't so far away or i'd be 
down next month for that meet-up, you betcha.

paul
takoma park, md.

On Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 8:16:04 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:

> That is the best looking Riv I have ever seen.
>
> On Tuesday, 18 May 2021 at 02:55:16 UTC+8 JAS wrote:
>
>>
>> Pam, you are an inspiration!  Thank you for sharing your trusty Betty Foy 
>> and all of her beauty marks. She is definitely a work of art.  I'm 
>> impressed with your mileage, daily riding, hauling ability and dedication 
>> to helping others learn skills and confidence so they, too, can enjoy 
>> cycling.   Cheers to you!
>> RivSisters,
>> --Joyce
>> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 9:48:50 AM UTC-7 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>
>>> I wanted the picture of the sticker with Grant's quote small and 
>>> centered so you could read it but couldn't figure out how to do that and 
>>> make the pictures smaller so you wouldn't need to scroll so much but who 
>>> has time for that.  I just want to ride my bike.
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 10:00:40 AM UTC-4 johnny@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Beautiful bike and I disagree about your wordpress skills. Fun stuff.

 On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 9:05:03 AM UTC-7 benjami...@gmail.com wrote:

> Great write up!
>
> On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 9:11:15 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> I wanted to share pictures of a Riv after 10 years with lots of 
>> beausage.  
>> I'm terrible at Wordpress and not sure how to format it so it's 
>> cobbled together but I did put all the pictures there and some fun 
>> facts.  
>> I love my bike.  It's the one thing I use everyday and enjoy riding it 
>> still.
>>
>> http://cltspokespeople.org/my-betty-foy-after-10-years/
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: My Betty Foy after 10 years

[brendonoid]

That is the best looking Riv I have ever seen.

On Tuesday, 18 May 2021 at 02:55:16 UTC+8 JAS wrote:

>
> Pam, you are an inspiration!  Thank you for sharing your trusty Betty Foy 
> and all of her beauty marks. She is definitely a work of art.  I'm 
> impressed with your mileage, daily riding, hauling ability and dedication 
> to helping others learn skills and confidence so they, too, can enjoy 
> cycling.   Cheers to you!
> RivSisters,
> --Joyce
> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 9:48:50 AM UTC-7 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> I wanted the picture of the sticker with Grant's quote small and centered 
>> so you could read it but couldn't figure out how to do that and make the 
>> pictures smaller so you wouldn't need to scroll so much but who has time 
>> for that.  I just want to ride my bike.
>>
>> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 10:00:40 AM UTC-4 johnny@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Beautiful bike and I disagree about your wordpress skills. Fun stuff.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 9:05:03 AM UTC-7 benjami...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Great write up!

 On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 9:11:15 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:

> I wanted to share pictures of a Riv after 10 years with lots of 
> beausage.  
> I'm terrible at Wordpress and not sure how to format it so it's 
> cobbled together but I did put all the pictures there and some fun facts. 
>  
> I love my bike.  It's the one thing I use everyday and enjoy riding it 
> still.
>
> http://cltspokespeople.org/my-betty-foy-after-10-years/
>
>

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[RBW] Re: My Betty Foy after 10 years

[JAS]

Pam, you are an inspiration!  Thank you for sharing your trusty Betty Foy 
and all of her beauty marks. She is definitely a work of art.  I'm 
impressed with your mileage, daily riding, hauling ability and dedication 
to helping others learn skills and confidence so they, too, can enjoy 
cycling.   Cheers to you!
RivSisters,
--Joyce
On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 9:48:50 AM UTC-7 Pam Bikes wrote:

> I wanted the picture of the sticker with Grant's quote small and centered 
> so you could read it but couldn't figure out how to do that and make the 
> pictures smaller so you wouldn't need to scroll so much but who has time 
> for that.  I just want to ride my bike.
>
> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 10:00:40 AM UTC-4 johnny@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Beautiful bike and I disagree about your wordpress skills. Fun stuff.
>>
>> On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 9:05:03 AM UTC-7 benjami...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Great write up!
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 9:11:15 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>>
 I wanted to share pictures of a Riv after 10 years with lots of 
 beausage.  
 I'm terrible at Wordpress and not sure how to format it so it's cobbled 
 together but I did put all the pictures there and some fun facts.  I love 
 my bike.  It's the one thing I use everyday and enjoy riding it still.

 http://cltspokespeople.org/my-betty-foy-after-10-years/



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[RBW] Re: My Betty Foy after 10 years

[Pam Bikes]

I wanted the picture of the sticker with Grant's quote small and centered 
so you could read it but couldn't figure out how to do that and make the 
pictures smaller so you wouldn't need to scroll so much but who has time 
for that.  I just want to ride my bike.

On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 10:00:40 AM UTC-4 johnny@gmail.com wrote:

> Beautiful bike and I disagree about your wordpress skills. Fun stuff.
>
> On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 9:05:03 AM UTC-7 benjami...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Great write up!
>>
>> On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 9:11:15 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>
>>> I wanted to share pictures of a Riv after 10 years with lots of 
>>> beausage.  
>>> I'm terrible at Wordpress and not sure how to format it so it's cobbled 
>>> together but I did put all the pictures there and some fun facts.  I love 
>>> my bike.  It's the one thing I use everyday and enjoy riding it still.
>>>
>>> http://cltspokespeople.org/my-betty-foy-after-10-years/
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: My Betty Foy after 10 years

[Johnny Burrell]

Beautiful bike and I disagree about your wordpress skills. Fun stuff.

On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 9:05:03 AM UTC-7 benjami...@gmail.com wrote:

> Great write up!
>
> On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 9:11:15 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> I wanted to share pictures of a Riv after 10 years with lots of 
>> beausage.  
>> I'm terrible at Wordpress and not sure how to format it so it's cobbled 
>> together but I did put all the pictures there and some fun facts.  I love 
>> my bike.  It's the one thing I use everyday and enjoy riding it still.
>>
>> http://cltspokespeople.org/my-betty-foy-after-10-years/
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: My Betty Foy after 10 years

['upyou...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thank you for this wonderful article and photos of a well loved bike.  I 
just love seeing people on their bikes. The more the better. 
Pam, I too use the Cateye Enduro on my bike to track mileage and I will be 
moving it and resetting it for my new platypus.  
Ride on!
Kate-Trenton, NJ
anxiously awaiting her first Riv

On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 5:18:56 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:

> Au contraire!
> [image: 9E69-1B45-45CC-BF99-A54EE3B16529_1_105_c.jpeg]
> Riding in the rain is why you have fenders! Dyno hub and LED lights for 
> the dark of night. 
>
>
> Out in the falling rain is one of the top bicycling moments for me. I have 
> picked parts over the years to become more impervious to riding in the wet, 
> component by component. Tubeless wheels finished my list, solving the 
> problem of wet tubes and rim tape from centrifugal entry at the spoke 
> holes. 
> [image: Screen Shot 2021-05-17 at 5.16.12 AM.png]
> We're pretty average here, our wet is just spread more evenly than other 
> places where big storms with significant downpours concentrate rainfall.
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
> On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 9:15:08 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>
>> In the spirit of our Pam I’m going out and trashing my dream bike in the 
>> rain! Right now.
>> Leah 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 16, 2021, at 5:38 PM, David Person  wrote:
>>
>> Grant would be so proud of you.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 3:29:36 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> I admire your moral fiber for happily riding your bike without fretting 
>>> about the paint. I do have a 22-year-old Rivendell, but I've babied it, and 
>>> only used it very occasionally for errands or commuting (it's the 1999 Joe 
>>> Starck custom). It had a few minor scuffs, but the Joe Bell paint was 
>>> largely intact when I had it slightly modified and powdercoated (*nice* 
>>> powdercoat) 
>>> in 2018. It does sport a wee dent in the right chainstay where another 
>>> eejit cyclist, playing paceline with me last year, slammed into me from 
>>> behind -- bent the wheel but left the frame *almost* unscathed.
>>>
>>> OTOH, I did commute on another Riv custom with Joe Bell paint for many 
>>> years, including carriage on bus bike racks -- more but again minor scuffs 
>>> and scrapes.
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Patrick Moore
>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: My Betty Foy after 10 years

[Pam Bikes]

To keep track of miles I have a cyclometer.  This is my 3rd.  The first one 
came off my beginner bike which I had for about 4 1/2 years.  I rode it for 
5855 miles then when I got the Betty Foy I wondered if I'd ever ride it as 
much.  And now I ride more than than yearly.  My first cyclometer was a 
Blackburn then I got another one off ebay so I wouldn't need to change the 
mount but the wiring went bad - intermittantly stopping.  So I took the one 
off my daughter's bike.  It was given to me from someone who didn't use it 
anymore.  It's a Cateye Enduro.  The mount was broken in a crash but I 
fashioned a new one out of an old bike tube and a zip tie.  It's doing ok 
from 2 yrs ago.  These are the wired ones with the spoke magnet and CR2032 
battery.  When the display dims and I know I need to replace it, I write 
down the mileage and reprogram it.  

I've hauled all kinds of stuff on my Betty.  Just tonight I brought home a 
5 lb can of oyster sauce, some sesame oil, cooking wine and found a 5 
gallon soy sauce bucket at the dumpster.  The bucket was strapped to the 
rack with a John's Irish strap.  Then on the way home from my friends 
house, I found a floor lamp that I strapped on with a Voile strap.  

On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 10:25:33 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:

> My thought is:  if you have more than one bike, it's reasonable to have a 
> pampered and immaculate one.  But everyone should have one bike that, even 
> if a beautiful bike, is ultimately about utility - and is treated as such!
>
> On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 6:54 PM  wrote:
>
>> I loved reading this. My early-ish Atlantis has an amputated rack 
>> braze-on from a mishap we don’t discuss, and plenty of nicks and scratches. 
>> There’s something about it being an “all rounder” that leads me to just use 
>> it without being to concerned about damaging the finish. I love seeing hard 
>> used bikes and pampered bikes, as long as there are butts on bikes! 
>>
>> On May 16, 2021, at 18:24, David Person  wrote:
>>
>> I have to confess to pampering my Hillborne.  Any nicks to the paint get 
>> touched up pretty quickly and I avoid riding it in the rain, thought that 
>> is pretty easy to do in SoCal.
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 6:15:08 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In the spirit of our Pam I’m going out and trashing my dream bike in the 
>>> rain! Right now.
>>> Leah 
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On May 16, 2021, at 5:38 PM, David Person  wrote:
>>>
>>> Grant would be so proud of you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 3:29:36 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 I admire your moral fiber for happily riding your bike without fretting 
 about the paint. I do have a 22-year-old Rivendell, but I've babied it, 
 and 
 only used it very occasionally for errands or commuting (it's the 1999 Joe 
 Starck custom). It had a few minor scuffs, but the Joe Bell paint was 
 largely intact when I had it slightly modified and powdercoated (*nice* 
 powdercoat) 
 in 2018. It does sport a wee dent in the right chainstay where another 
 eejit cyclist, playing paceline with me last year, slammed into me from 
 behind -- bent the wheel but left the frame *almost* unscathed.

 OTOH, I did commute on another Riv custom with Joe Bell paint for many 
 years, including carriage on bus bike racks -- more but again minor scuffs 
 and scrapes.

 ---
 Patrick Moore
 Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum

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Re: [RBW] Re: My Betty Foy after 10 years

[Jason Fuller]

My thought is:  if you have more than one bike, it's reasonable to have a
pampered and immaculate one.  But everyone should have one bike that, even
if a beautiful bike, is ultimately about utility - and is treated as such!

On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 6:54 PM  wrote:

> I loved reading this. My early-ish Atlantis has an amputated rack braze-on
> from a mishap we don’t discuss, and plenty of nicks and scratches. There’s
> something about it being an “all rounder” that leads me to just use it
> without being to concerned about damaging the finish. I love seeing hard
> used bikes and pampered bikes, as long as there are butts on bikes!
>
> On May 16, 2021, at 18:24, David Person  wrote:
>
> I have to confess to pampering my Hillborne.  Any nicks to the paint get
> touched up pretty quickly and I avoid riding it in the rain, thought that
> is pretty easy to do in SoCal.
>
>
> On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 6:15:08 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>
>> In the spirit of our Pam I’m going out and trashing my dream bike in the
>> rain! Right now.
>> Leah
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 16, 2021, at 5:38 PM, David Person  wrote:
>>
>> Grant would be so proud of you.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 3:29:36 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> I admire your moral fiber for happily riding your bike without fretting
>>> about the paint. I do have a 22-year-old Rivendell, but I've babied it, and
>>> only used it very occasionally for errands or commuting (it's the 1999 Joe
>>> Starck custom). It had a few minor scuffs, but the Joe Bell paint was
>>> largely intact when I had it slightly modified and powdercoated (*nice* 
>>> powdercoat)
>>> in 2018. It does sport a wee dent in the right chainstay where another
>>> eejit cyclist, playing paceline with me last year, slammed into me from
>>> behind -- bent the wheel but left the frame *almost* unscathed.
>>>
>>> OTOH, I did commute on another Riv custom with Joe Bell paint for many
>>> years, including carriage on bus bike racks -- more but again minor scuffs
>>> and scrapes.
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Patrick Moore
>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: My Betty Foy after 10 years

[luckyturnip]

I loved reading this. My early-ish Atlantis has an amputated rack braze-on from 
a mishap we don’t discuss, and plenty of nicks and scratches. There’s something 
about it being an “all rounder” that leads me to just use it without being to 
concerned about damaging the finish. I love seeing hard used bikes and pampered 
bikes, as long as there are butts on bikes! 

> On May 16, 2021, at 18:24, David Person  wrote:
> 
> I have to confess to pampering my Hillborne.  Any nicks to the paint get 
> touched up pretty quickly and I avoid riding it in the rain, thought that is 
> pretty easy to do in SoCal.
> 
> 
>> On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 6:15:08 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>> In the spirit of our Pam I’m going out and trashing my dream bike in the 
>> rain! Right now.
>> Leah 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On May 16, 2021, at 5:38 PM, David Person  wrote:
 
>>> Grant would be so proud of you.
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
> On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 3:29:36 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
> I admire your moral fiber for happily riding your bike without fretting 
> about the paint. I do have a 22-year-old Rivendell, but I've babied it, 
> and only used it very occasionally for errands or commuting (it's the 
> 1999 Joe Starck custom). It had a few minor scuffs, but the Joe Bell 
> paint was largely intact when I had it slightly modified and powdercoated 
> (nice powdercoat) in 2018. It does sport a wee dent in the right 
> chainstay where another eejit cyclist, playing paceline with me last 
> year, slammed into me from behind -- bent the wheel but left the frame 
> almost unscathed.
> 
> OTOH, I did commute on another Riv custom with Joe Bell paint for many 
> years, including carriage on bus bike racks -- more but again minor 
> scuffs and scrapes.
> 
> ---
> Patrick Moore
> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: My Betty Foy after 10 years

[David Person]

I have to confess to pampering my Hillborne.  Any nicks to the paint get 
touched up pretty quickly and I avoid riding it in the rain, thought that 
is pretty easy to do in SoCal.


On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 6:15:08 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

> In the spirit of our Pam I’m going out and trashing my dream bike in the 
> rain! Right now.
> Leah 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 16, 2021, at 5:38 PM, David Person  wrote:
>
> Grant would be so proud of you.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 3:29:36 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> I admire your moral fiber for happily riding your bike without fretting 
>> about the paint. I do have a 22-year-old Rivendell, but I've babied it, and 
>> only used it very occasionally for errands or commuting (it's the 1999 Joe 
>> Starck custom). It had a few minor scuffs, but the Joe Bell paint was 
>> largely intact when I had it slightly modified and powdercoated (*nice* 
>> powdercoat) 
>> in 2018. It does sport a wee dent in the right chainstay where another 
>> eejit cyclist, playing paceline with me last year, slammed into me from 
>> behind -- bent the wheel but left the frame *almost* unscathed.
>>
>> OTOH, I did commute on another Riv custom with Joe Bell paint for many 
>> years, including carriage on bus bike racks -- more but again minor scuffs 
>> and scrapes.
>>
>> ---
>> Patrick Moore
>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: My Betty Foy after 10 years

[Leah Peterson]

In the spirit of our Pam I’m going out and trashing my dream bike in the rain! 
Right now.
Leah 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 16, 2021, at 5:38 PM, David Person  wrote:
> 
> Grant would be so proud of you.
> 
>> On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 3:29:36 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>> I admire your moral fiber for happily riding your bike without fretting 
>> about the paint. I do have a 22-year-old Rivendell, but I've babied it, and 
>> only used it very occasionally for errands or commuting (it's the 1999 Joe 
>> Starck custom). It had a few minor scuffs, but the Joe Bell paint was 
>> largely intact when I had it slightly modified and powdercoated (nice 
>> powdercoat) in 2018. It does sport a wee dent in the right chainstay where 
>> another eejit cyclist, playing paceline with me last year, slammed into me 
>> from behind -- bent the wheel but left the frame almost unscathed.
>> 
>> OTOH, I did commute on another Riv custom with Joe Bell paint for many 
>> years, including carriage on bus bike racks -- more but again minor scuffs 
>> and scrapes.
>> 
>> ---
>> Patrick Moore
>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: My Betty Foy after 10 years

[David Person]

Grant would be so proud of you.

On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 3:29:36 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> I admire your moral fiber for happily riding your bike without fretting 
> about the paint. I do have a 22-year-old Rivendell, but I've babied it, and 
> only used it very occasionally for errands or commuting (it's the 1999 Joe 
> Starck custom). It had a few minor scuffs, but the Joe Bell paint was 
> largely intact when I had it slightly modified and powdercoated (*nice* 
> powdercoat) 
> in 2018. It does sport a wee dent in the right chainstay where another 
> eejit cyclist, playing paceline with me last year, slammed into me from 
> behind -- bent the wheel but left the frame *almost* unscathed.
>
> OTOH, I did commute on another Riv custom with Joe Bell paint for many 
> years, including carriage on bus bike racks -- more but again minor scuffs 
> and scrapes.
>
> ---
> Patrick Moore
> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
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Re: [RBW] Re: My Betty Foy after 10 years

[Patrick Moore]

I admire your moral fiber for happily riding your bike without fretting
about the paint. I do have a 22-year-old Rivendell, but I've babied it, and
only used it very occasionally for errands or commuting (it's the 1999 Joe
Starck custom). It had a few minor scuffs, but the Joe Bell paint was
largely intact when I had it slightly modified and powdercoated
(*nice* powdercoat)
in 2018. It does sport a wee dent in the right chainstay where another
eejit cyclist, playing paceline with me last year, slammed into me from
behind -- bent the wheel but left the frame *almost* unscathed.

OTOH, I did commute on another Riv custom with Joe Bell paint for many
years, including carriage on bus bike racks -- more but again minor scuffs
and scrapes.

---
Patrick Moore
Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum

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[RBW] Re: My Betty Foy after 10 years

[Christine Justice]

I enjoyed this so much Pam. You and your Betty sure have a special 
relationship. It's a joy seeing such a well loved bicycle. That is some 
truly awe inspiring milage you do. And oh the places you've been together! 
 You say you don't use a phone. How do you track all that milage? 

On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 11:52:43 AM UTC-6 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Really awesome & inspiring! 
>
> On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 12:49:14 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> I draw a lot of inspiration from you and your Betty, Pam! Thanks for 
>> chronicling its journey. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, 15 May 2021 at 18:11:15 UTC-7 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>
>>> I wanted to share pictures of a Riv after 10 years with lots of 
>>> beausage.  
>>> I'm terrible at Wordpress and not sure how to format it so it's cobbled 
>>> together but I did put all the pictures there and some fun facts.  I love 
>>> my bike.  It's the one thing I use everyday and enjoy riding it still.
>>>
>>> http://cltspokespeople.org/my-betty-foy-after-10-years/
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: My Betty Foy after 10 years

[Philip Barrett]

Really awesome & inspiring! 

On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 12:49:14 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:

> I draw a lot of inspiration from you and your Betty, Pam! Thanks for 
> chronicling its journey. 
>
>
>
> On Saturday, 15 May 2021 at 18:11:15 UTC-7 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> I wanted to share pictures of a Riv after 10 years with lots of 
>> beausage.  
>> I'm terrible at Wordpress and not sure how to format it so it's cobbled 
>> together but I did put all the pictures there and some fun facts.  I love 
>> my bike.  It's the one thing I use everyday and enjoy riding it still.
>>
>> http://cltspokespeople.org/my-betty-foy-after-10-years/
>>
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[RBW] Re: My Betty Foy after 10 years

[Jason Fuller]

I draw a lot of inspiration from you and your Betty, Pam! Thanks for 
chronicling its journey. 



On Saturday, 15 May 2021 at 18:11:15 UTC-7 Pam Bikes wrote:

> I wanted to share pictures of a Riv after 10 years with lots of beausage.  
> I'm terrible at Wordpress and not sure how to format it so it's cobbled 
> together but I did put all the pictures there and some fun facts.  I love 
> my bike.  It's the one thing I use everyday and enjoy riding it still.
>
> http://cltspokespeople.org/my-betty-foy-after-10-years/
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Re: [RBW] Re: My Betty Foy after 10 years

[Leah Peterson]

Your bike mistreated because of its beausage? Never. It is my unvarnished 
opinion that the mistreated bike is the pristine one. A pristine bike is a 
parked bike, and Rivs are meant to be ridden. I have one scuff in my raspberry 
Platypus paint and I don’t even care. More to come, I figure.

Andy - yes, delight us with your 20 year Ram write-up and beausage. Who else 
has had a bike for a long time and can contribute? Like Pam, I’d really enjoy 
those stories and photos.

As for me, my Betty Foy was 8 years old when I traded it in for the longer 
chain-stayed, raspberry Platypus. I learned a lot in those 8 years and you 
could see it on the frame. I didn’t even know how to raise the handlebars when 
I got my Betty. I stripped a bolt or two. Mashed the brake cable into the top 
tube paint job. I used it to pull my kids and haul my dog, and as such, it was 
tipped over by said kids and dog more than once. Wish I had done a similar 
write-up!

Leah
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> On May 16, 2021, at 7:21 AM, Pam Bikes  wrote:
> I was afraid people would give me a hard time for thinking I mistreated my 
> bike.  I'd love to see other bikes in similar condition.  I used to stress 
> over the paint chips but have enjoyed all the rides and have come to realize 
> that bikes are for riding.  If it gets chipped, that's part of the journey.  
> 
> I'm sure more people have ridden lots more than me.  I just ride mine 
> everyday, everywhere literally.  We're all lucky we have our Rivs before 
> Ultraromancer, Bike Snob and Russ of The Path Less Pedaled got theirs.  Rivs 
> may be more hard to come by.  
> 
> On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 10:02:36 AM UTC-4 Joel S wrote:
>> You use your bike the way we all should (if weather permitted).  Good to 
>> remember the nicks and scratches.  A well used bike.  
>> 
>> On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 9:11:15 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>> I wanted to share pictures of a Riv after 10 years with lots of beausage.  
>>> I'm terrible at Wordpress and not sure how to format it so it's cobbled 
>>> together but I did put all the pictures there and some fun facts.  I love 
>>> my bike.  It's the one thing I use everyday and enjoy riding it still.
>>> 
>>> http://cltspokespeople.org/my-betty-foy-after-10-years/
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[RBW] Re: My Betty Foy after 10 years

[Benjamin Park]

Great write up!

On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 9:11:15 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:

> I wanted to share pictures of a Riv after 10 years with lots of beausage.  
> I'm terrible at Wordpress and not sure how to format it so it's cobbled 
> together but I did put all the pictures there and some fun facts.  I love 
> my bike.  It's the one thing I use everyday and enjoy riding it still.
>
> http://cltspokespeople.org/my-betty-foy-after-10-years/
>
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[RBW] Re: My Betty Foy after 10 years

[Pam Bikes]

I was afraid people would give me a hard time for thinking I mistreated my 
bike.  I'd love to see other bikes in similar condition.  I used to stress 
over the paint chips but have enjoyed all the rides and have come to 
realize that bikes are for riding.  If it gets chipped, that's part of the 
journey.  

I'm sure more people have ridden lots more than me.  I just ride mine 
everyday, everywhere literally.  We're all lucky we have our Rivs before 
Ultraromancer, Bike Snob and Russ of The Path Less Pedaled got theirs.  
Rivs may be more hard to come by.  

On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 10:02:36 AM UTC-4 Joel S wrote:

> You use your bike the way we all should (if weather permitted).  Good to 
> remember the nicks and scratches.  A well used bike.  
>
> On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 9:11:15 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> I wanted to share pictures of a Riv after 10 years with lots of 
>> beausage.  
>> I'm terrible at Wordpress and not sure how to format it so it's cobbled 
>> together but I did put all the pictures there and some fun facts.  I love 
>> my bike.  It's the one thing I use everyday and enjoy riding it still.
>>
>> http://cltspokespeople.org/my-betty-foy-after-10-years/
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: My Betty Foy after 10 years

['Joel S' via RBW Owners Bunch]

You use your bike the way we all should (if weather permitted).  Good to 
remember the nicks and scratches.  A well used bike.  

On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 9:11:15 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:

> I wanted to share pictures of a Riv after 10 years with lots of beausage.  
> I'm terrible at Wordpress and not sure how to format it so it's cobbled 
> together but I did put all the pictures there and some fun facts.  I love 
> my bike.  It's the one thing I use everyday and enjoy riding it still.
>
> http://cltspokespeople.org/my-betty-foy-after-10-years/
>
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[RBW] Re: My Betty Foy after 10 years

[John A. Bennett]

*It's just getting good! *

John in Portland, Ore.

On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 6:11:15 PM UTC-7 Pam Bikes wrote:

> I wanted to share pictures of a Riv after 10 years with lots of beausage.  
> I'm terrible at Wordpress and not sure how to format it so it's cobbled 
> together but I did put all the pictures there and some fun facts.  I love 
> my bike.  It's the one thing I use everyday and enjoy riding it still.
>
> http://cltspokespeople.org/my-betty-foy-after-10-years/
>
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[RBW] Re: My Betty Foy after 10 years

[ascpgh]

Wow! That's my first reaction. Second is what great aforethought you've had 
to keep up your documentation so as to look at it from a ten year 
retrospective. I don't even keep my miles tallied but your bike's decade 
inspires me to post in response "My Rambouillet after 20 years". I'm going 
to have to work on it to meet the quality of your post! I've got beausage 
times two, I once wrote that mine had exceeded definition and moved to 
"beausavage". 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 9:11:15 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:

> I wanted to share pictures of a Riv after 10 years with lots of beausage.  
> I'm terrible at Wordpress and not sure how to format it so it's cobbled 
> together but I did put all the pictures there and some fun facts.  I love 
> my bike.  It's the one thing I use everyday and enjoy riding it still.
>
> http://cltspokespeople.org/my-betty-foy-after-10-years/
>
>

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[RBW] Re: My Betty Foy after 10 years

[Joe Bernard]

9000 miles in one year. I don't drive my car that far! 

Joe Bernard

On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 6:11:15 PM UTC-7 Pam Bikes wrote:

> I wanted to share pictures of a Riv after 10 years with lots of beausage.  
> I'm terrible at Wordpress and not sure how to format it so it's cobbled 
> together but I did put all the pictures there and some fun facts.  I love 
> my bike.  It's the one thing I use everyday and enjoy riding it still.
>
> http://cltspokespeople.org/my-betty-foy-after-10-years/
>
>

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[RBW] Re: My Betty Foy after 10 years

[Jeffrey Arita]

Pam,

Only one word comes to my mind after reading this: R-E-S-P-E-C-T

Carry on!

Jeff
Claremont, CA

On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 6:11:15 PM UTC-7 Pam Bikes wrote:

> I wanted to share pictures of a Riv after 10 years with lots of beausage.  
> I'm terrible at Wordpress and not sure how to format it so it's cobbled 
> together but I did put all the pictures there and some fun facts.  I love 
> my bike.  It's the one thing I use everyday and enjoy riding it still.
>
> http://cltspokespeople.org/my-betty-foy-after-10-years/
>
>

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[RBW] Re: My Betty Foy after 10 years

[dougP]

Pam:

That's a great story & the documentation is interesting.  I wonder how many 
others ride their bikes a lot but don't track mileage or parts useage.  
I'll bet there's a whole group out there that have no idea, and that most 
of them only have one bike & use it daily, as you do.  You are an 
inspiration.  

dougP

On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 6:11:15 PM UTC-7 Pam Bikes wrote:

> I wanted to share pictures of a Riv after 10 years with lots of beausage.  
> I'm terrible at Wordpress and not sure how to format it so it's cobbled 
> together but I did put all the pictures there and some fun facts.  I love 
> my bike.  It's the one thing I use everyday and enjoy riding it still.
>
> http://cltspokespeople.org/my-betty-foy-after-10-years/
>
>

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[RBW] Re: My Betty Foy after 10 years

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

This is going down as my all-time favorite post on this forum ever. To ride 
a Riv to this extent for a decade, while being an example and an encourager 
to others along the way…well, hats off to our Pam. I have enjoyed the 
article and photos immensely. Grant would be thrilled - Pam, have you sent 
this to him?!

Leah

On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 8:47:44 PM UTC-7 Pam Bikes wrote:

> My Betty is a 47 cm and has 26 in wheels, the 50 cm has 650B, the 55 and 
> 60 have 700.  I may be wrong on the 55 but I'm guessing.
>
> On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 11:32:40 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>
>> It looks beautiful. You are an inspiration, getting the most joy out of 
>> your bikes. 
>>
>> On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 9:11:15 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>
>>> I wanted to share pictures of a Riv after 10 years with lots of 
>>> beausage.  
>>> I'm terrible at Wordpress and not sure how to format it so it's cobbled 
>>> together but I did put all the pictures there and some fun facts.  I love 
>>> my bike.  It's the one thing I use everyday and enjoy riding it still.
>>>
>>> http://cltspokespeople.org/my-betty-foy-after-10-years/
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: My Betty Foy after 10 years

[Pam Bikes]

My Betty is a 47 cm and has 26 in wheels, the 50 cm has 650B, the 55 and 60 
have 700.  I may be wrong on the 55 but I'm guessing.

On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 11:32:40 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> It looks beautiful. You are an inspiration, getting the most joy out of 
> your bikes. 
>
> On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 9:11:15 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> I wanted to share pictures of a Riv after 10 years with lots of 
>> beausage.  
>> I'm terrible at Wordpress and not sure how to format it so it's cobbled 
>> together but I did put all the pictures there and some fun facts.  I love 
>> my bike.  It's the one thing I use everyday and enjoy riding it still.
>>
>> http://cltspokespeople.org/my-betty-foy-after-10-years/
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: My Betty Foy after 10 years

[Roberta]

It looks beautiful. You are an inspiration, getting the most joy out of 
your bikes. 

On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 9:11:15 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:

> I wanted to share pictures of a Riv after 10 years with lots of beausage.  
> I'm terrible at Wordpress and not sure how to format it so it's cobbled 
> together but I did put all the pictures there and some fun facts.  I love 
> my bike.  It's the one thing I use everyday and enjoy riding it still.
>
> http://cltspokespeople.org/my-betty-foy-after-10-years/
>
>

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