[RBW] Re: New Platypus

[Ryan]

That is a handsome bikeyeah, fun to swap out parts to make it your own 
and those are fine choices. That Sergio Green is a subtle color and I like 
those matching grips

On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 9:17:40 AM UTC-6 steve...@gmail.com wrote:

> Tim, please pardon my disagreement, but I think your description of the 
> Platy's ride quality is perfect - "sublime".  Anything more would just be 
> so many words.  
>
> Though it's a 50cm frame set with 650b wheels, my 2022 Platypus is built 
> up similar to yours - Billie bars, B17 saddle, front rack, a 44-34-24 
> triple crankset, and of course, plump tires (42mm RH slicks under 62mm 
> Honjos).  The more I ride it the more I love it. So, needless to say, 
> I'm digging your Platypus!!!
>
> Steve In Asheville
> On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 7:49:05 AM UTC-5 sarahlik...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Love a Platypus with Billie Bars. Happy riding!
>>
>> On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 1:31:06 PM UTC-8 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>
>>> Took advantage of the rare warm weather we are having to take my new 
>>> Platypus out. I purchased this 60cm Sergio's Green as a complete bike. At 
>>> first I thought I'd ride it complete as it was delivered right out of the 
>>> box. Although it was fine with the SunRace parts that came with bike I just 
>>> couldn't live with the aesthetic. I swapped a few parts to make it my own 
>>> and I now have it built the way I wanted it. 
>>>
>>> The Platypus is probably the nicest riding Rivendell I've ever owned. 
>>> I'm not very good at putting ride quality into words but it just feels 
>>> sublime. The combination of the laid back geometry and the chubby tires are 
>>> bike factors. I found that having more of my weight on the front end of the 
>>> bike by angling the bars down made a big difference. I also changed the 
>>> stem to a 135mm up from a 110mm. I am really happy with the bike and know 
>>> that it will serve me well through the years. 
>>>
>>> Here is what I swapped out to make it my own. 
>>>
>>> Nitto Billie Bars
>>> Shimano XTR M952 RD
>>> Shimano Deore DX FD
>>> Silver Triple Cranks. 44x34x24
>>> SunTour Power XC Power Ratchets
>>> Brooks B-17 Special
>>> Paul Love Levers
>>> Oury Grips
>>> Added SimsXNitto Obento Rack
>>> Wald 137
>>> 5th Season Squall Sack
>>>
>>> [image: 378813CC-FB63-412C-8A4F-CC94A83F5E88_1_105_c.jpeg]
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: New Platypus

[Steve]

Tim, please pardon my disagreement, but I think your description of the 
Platy's ride quality is perfect - "sublime".  Anything more would just be 
so many words.  

Though it's a 50cm frame set with 650b wheels, my 2022 Platypus is built up 
similar to yours - Billie bars, B17 saddle, front rack, a 44-34-24 triple 
crankset, and of course, plump tires (42mm RH slicks under 62mm Honjos). 
 The more I ride it the more I love it. So, needless to say, I'm 
digging your Platypus!!!

Steve In Asheville
On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 7:49:05 AM UTC-5 sarahlik...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Love a Platypus with Billie Bars. Happy riding!
>
> On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 1:31:06 PM UTC-8 Tim Bantham wrote:
>
>> Took advantage of the rare warm weather we are having to take my new 
>> Platypus out. I purchased this 60cm Sergio's Green as a complete bike. At 
>> first I thought I'd ride it complete as it was delivered right out of the 
>> box. Although it was fine with the SunRace parts that came with bike I just 
>> couldn't live with the aesthetic. I swapped a few parts to make it my own 
>> and I now have it built the way I wanted it. 
>>
>> The Platypus is probably the nicest riding Rivendell I've ever owned. I'm 
>> not very good at putting ride quality into words but it just feels sublime. 
>> The combination of the laid back geometry and the chubby tires are bike 
>> factors. I found that having more of my weight on the front end of the bike 
>> by angling the bars down made a big difference. I also changed the stem to 
>> a 135mm up from a 110mm. I am really happy with the bike and know that it 
>> will serve me well through the years. 
>>
>> Here is what I swapped out to make it my own. 
>>
>> Nitto Billie Bars
>> Shimano XTR M952 RD
>> Shimano Deore DX FD
>> Silver Triple Cranks. 44x34x24
>> SunTour Power XC Power Ratchets
>> Brooks B-17 Special
>> Paul Love Levers
>> Oury Grips
>> Added SimsXNitto Obento Rack
>> Wald 137
>> 5th Season Squall Sack
>>
>> [image: 378813CC-FB63-412C-8A4F-CC94A83F5E88_1_105_c.jpeg]
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: New Platypus

[Sarah Carlson]

Love a Platypus with Billie Bars. Happy riding!

On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 1:31:06 PM UTC-8 Tim Bantham wrote:

> Took advantage of the rare warm weather we are having to take my new 
> Platypus out. I purchased this 60cm Sergio's Green as a complete bike. At 
> first I thought I'd ride it complete as it was delivered right out of the 
> box. Although it was fine with the SunRace parts that came with bike I just 
> couldn't live with the aesthetic. I swapped a few parts to make it my own 
> and I now have it built the way I wanted it. 
>
> The Platypus is probably the nicest riding Rivendell I've ever owned. I'm 
> not very good at putting ride quality into words but it just feels sublime. 
> The combination of the laid back geometry and the chubby tires are bike 
> factors. I found that having more of my weight on the front end of the bike 
> by angling the bars down made a big difference. I also changed the stem to 
> a 135mm up from a 110mm. I am really happy with the bike and know that it 
> will serve me well through the years. 
>
> Here is what I swapped out to make it my own. 
>
> Nitto Billie Bars
> Shimano XTR M952 RD
> Shimano Deore DX FD
> Silver Triple Cranks. 44x34x24
> SunTour Power XC Power Ratchets
> Brooks B-17 Special
> Paul Love Levers
> Oury Grips
> Added SimsXNitto Obento Rack
> Wald 137
> 5th Season Squall Sack
>
> [image: 378813CC-FB63-412C-8A4F-CC94A83F5E88_1_105_c.jpeg]
>

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[RBW] Re: New Platypus

[DavidP]

Great looking Platy, Tim. And I'm not just saying that because mine is 
setup similarly. :)
It does have a lovely ride quality to it - easy going yet zippy; ""cruisy 
zoomy".

-Dave

On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 4:31:06 PM UTC-5 Tim Bantham wrote:

> Took advantage of the rare warm weather we are having to take my new 
> Platypus out. I purchased this 60cm Sergio's Green as a complete bike. At 
> first I thought I'd ride it complete as it was delivered right out of the 
> box. Although it was fine with the SunRace parts that came with bike I just 
> couldn't live with the aesthetic. I swapped a few parts to make it my own 
> and I now have it built the way I wanted it. 
>
> The Platypus is probably the nicest riding Rivendell I've ever owned. I'm 
> not very good at putting ride quality into words but it just feels sublime. 
> The combination of the laid back geometry and the chubby tires are bike 
> factors. I found that having more of my weight on the front end of the bike 
> by angling the bars down made a big difference. I also changed the stem to 
> a 135mm up from a 110mm. I am really happy with the bike and know that it 
> will serve me well through the years. 
>
> Here is what I swapped out to make it my own. 
>
> Nitto Billie Bars
> Shimano XTR M952 RD
> Shimano Deore DX FD
> Silver Triple Cranks. 44x34x24
> SunTour Power XC Power Ratchets
> Brooks B-17 Special
> Paul Love Levers
> Oury Grips
> Added SimsXNitto Obento Rack
> Wald 137
> 5th Season Squall Sack
>
> [image: 378813CC-FB63-412C-8A4F-CC94A83F5E88_1_105_c.jpeg]
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Platypus Lug

[Ted W]

YES! I was having hard time figuring out why I didn’t like it. This is
exactly it! I usually LOVE lugged frames, but this lug feel unfinished so o
my eye. As I said before; the fillet made it flow and I think a similar
flow could have been made here with a different shape. But the way the
stays just plug in to the lug, like a plumbing fitting. It just doesn’t
feel like it he same thought was put in to the look as a typical Riv.

On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 8:23 AM Brian Turner  wrote:

> It’s a lug that could use a little something to make it look less klunky.
> I’m not a fan of the part that connects the stays… To me it looks like old
> plumbing fittings. If it were shaped a bit more elegantly, it would look so
> much better.
>
> On Oct 9, 2023, at 7:51 AM, DavidP  wrote:
>
> Keith, the BB shell is lugged on the previous model. It's hard to see in
> most photos but the current Platypus page on the Riv site has a photo of a
> bare frame. I've attached a cropped portion of that image.
>
>
> -Dave
>
> On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 6:30:55 AM UTC-4 iamkeith wrote:
>
>>
>> Interesting how our tastes are so individual.  I greatly prefer the
>> lugged joint.  I was looking at the pictures in the newsletter, without
>> consciously noticing what had changed, and thinking to myself:  "why did I
>> dismiss this model until now?  These are just about perfect."  Does anybody
>> know if the bottom bracket shell is lugged?  Tigged?  Fillet brazed?
>> On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 5:44:36 PM UTC-6 ted.l...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Gonna say I’m also more a fan on the fillet brazed variant but I can
>>> understand from a cost and production standpoint why they might have
>>> switched, lugs being easier to produce with less skill (relatively
>>> speaking). Shame, though. The fillet brazing on the Gus was one of the big
>>> attractions to me. It really enhances that swoopy, flowy look to me.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 3:28 PM Jason Fuller  wrote:
>>>
 I hadn't noticed this! I liked the fillet brazed junction better too
 but it definitely looked like a pain in the butt to fabricate. The new lug
 (old lug - I am sure Allan's right) does have a clean and tidy look too.  A
 friend's Platy has a pretty noticeable blem in the brazing too, maybe
 evidence it was problematic for Maxway.

 On Sunday, 8 October 2023 at 06:54:04 UTC-7 Marc Irwin wrote:

> Cost was probably involved.  The fillet brazing on the original
> Platypus would be very time consuming and more difficult in a factory
> setting than connecting a few tubes with lug.
>
> Marc
>
> On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 5:50:25 PM UTC-4 allan@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> [image: 0F3B224F-E805-48D6-9A22-8F51C4323F9C.jpeg]Perhaps they
>> dusted off the Betty Foy/Yves Gomez lug…
>>
>> On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 3:23:46 PM UTC-4 CoalTrain wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like the new run of Platy's are getting a lugged top/seat
>>> tube, where as the previous models were welded. Very nice.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Platypus Lug

[Brian Turner]

It’s a lug that could use a little something to make it look less klunky. I’m not a fan of the part that connects the stays… To me it looks like old plumbing fittings. If it were shaped a bit more elegantly, it would look so much better.On Oct 9, 2023, at 7:51 AM, DavidP  wrote:Keith, the BB shell is lugged on the previous model. It's hard to see in most photos but the current Platypus page on the Riv site has a photo of a bare frame. I've attached a cropped portion of that image.-DaveOn Monday, October 9, 2023 at 6:30:55 AM UTC-4 iamkeith wrote:Interesting how our tastes are so individual.  I greatly prefer the lugged joint.  I was looking at the pictures in the newsletter, without consciously noticing what had changed, and thinking to myself:  "why did I dismiss this model until now?  These are just about perfect."  Does anybody know if the bottom bracket shell is lugged?  Tigged?  Fillet brazed?On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 5:44:36 PM UTC-6 ted.l...@gmail.com wrote:Gonna say I’m also more a fan on the fillet brazed variant but I can understand from a cost and production standpoint why they might have switched, lugs being easier to produce with less skill (relatively speaking). Shame, though. The fillet brazing on the Gus was one of the big attractions to me. It really enhances that swoopy, flowy look to me.On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 3:28 PM Jason Fuller  wrote:I hadn't noticed this! I liked the fillet brazed junction better too but it definitely looked like a pain in the butt to fabricate. The new lug (old lug - I am sure Allan's right) does have a clean and tidy look too.  A friend's Platy has a pretty noticeable blem in the brazing too, maybe evidence it was problematic for Maxway. On Sunday, 8 October 2023 at 06:54:04 UTC-7 Marc Irwin wrote:Cost was probably involved.  The fillet brazing on the original Platypus would be very time consuming and more difficult in a factory setting than connecting a few tubes with lug.MarcOn Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 5:50:25 PM UTC-4 allan@gmail.com wrote:Perhaps they dusted off the Betty Foy/Yves Gomez lug…On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 3:23:46 PM UTC-4 CoalTrain wrote:Looks like the new run of Platy's are getting a lugged top/seat tube, where as the previous models were welded. Very nice.



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Re: [RBW] Re: New Platypus Lug

[iamkeith]

Interesting how our tastes are so individual.  I greatly prefer the lugged 
joint.  I was looking at the pictures in the newsletter, without 
consciously noticing what had changed, and thinking to myself:  "why did I 
dismiss this model until now?  These are just about perfect."  Does anybody 
know if the bottom bracket shell is lugged?  Tigged?  Fillet brazed?
On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 5:44:36 PM UTC-6 ted.l...@gmail.com wrote:

> Gonna say I’m also more a fan on the fillet brazed variant but I can 
> understand from a cost and production standpoint why they might have 
> switched, lugs being easier to produce with less skill (relatively 
> speaking). Shame, though. The fillet brazing on the Gus was one of the big 
> attractions to me. It really enhances that swoopy, flowy look to me.
>
> On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 3:28 PM Jason Fuller  wrote:
>
>> I hadn't noticed this! I liked the fillet brazed junction better too but 
>> it definitely looked like a pain in the butt to fabricate. The new lug (old 
>> lug - I am sure Allan's right) does have a clean and tidy look too.  A 
>> friend's Platy has a pretty noticeable blem in the brazing too, maybe 
>> evidence it was problematic for Maxway. 
>>
>> On Sunday, 8 October 2023 at 06:54:04 UTC-7 Marc Irwin wrote:
>>
>>> Cost was probably involved.  The fillet brazing on the original Platypus 
>>> would be very time consuming and more difficult in a factory setting than 
>>> connecting a few tubes with lug.
>>>
>>> Marc
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 5:50:25 PM UTC-4 allan@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 [image: 0F3B224F-E805-48D6-9A22-8F51C4323F9C.jpeg]Perhaps they dusted 
 off the Betty Foy/Yves Gomez lug…

 On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 3:23:46 PM UTC-4 CoalTrain wrote:

> Looks like the new run of Platy's are getting a lugged top/seat tube, 
> where as the previous models were welded. Very nice.

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Platypus Lug

[Ted W]

Gonna say I’m also more a fan on the fillet brazed variant but I can
understand from a cost and production standpoint why they might have
switched, lugs being easier to produce with less skill (relatively
speaking). Shame, though. The fillet brazing on the Gus was one of the big
attractions to me. It really enhances that swoopy, flowy look to me.

On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 3:28 PM Jason Fuller  wrote:

> I hadn't noticed this! I liked the fillet brazed junction better too but
> it definitely looked like a pain in the butt to fabricate. The new lug (old
> lug - I am sure Allan's right) does have a clean and tidy look too.  A
> friend's Platy has a pretty noticeable blem in the brazing too, maybe
> evidence it was problematic for Maxway.
>
> On Sunday, 8 October 2023 at 06:54:04 UTC-7 Marc Irwin wrote:
>
>> Cost was probably involved.  The fillet brazing on the original Platypus
>> would be very time consuming and more difficult in a factory setting than
>> connecting a few tubes with lug.
>>
>> Marc
>>
>> On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 5:50:25 PM UTC-4 allan@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> [image: 0F3B224F-E805-48D6-9A22-8F51C4323F9C.jpeg]Perhaps they dusted
>>> off the Betty Foy/Yves Gomez lug…
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 3:23:46 PM UTC-4 CoalTrain wrote:
>>>
 Looks like the new run of Platy's are getting a lugged top/seat tube,
 where as the previous models were welded. Very nice.
>>>
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[RBW] Re: New Platypus Lug

[Jason Fuller]

I hadn't noticed this! I liked the fillet brazed junction better too but it 
definitely looked like a pain in the butt to fabricate. The new lug (old 
lug - I am sure Allan's right) does have a clean and tidy look too.  A 
friend's Platy has a pretty noticeable blem in the brazing too, maybe 
evidence it was problematic for Maxway. 

On Sunday, 8 October 2023 at 06:54:04 UTC-7 Marc Irwin wrote:

> Cost was probably involved.  The fillet brazing on the original Platypus 
> would be very time consuming and more difficult in a factory setting than 
> connecting a few tubes with lug.
>
> Marc
>
> On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 5:50:25 PM UTC-4 allan@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> [image: 0F3B224F-E805-48D6-9A22-8F51C4323F9C.jpeg]Perhaps they dusted 
>> off the Betty Foy/Yves Gomez lug…
>>
>> On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 3:23:46 PM UTC-4 CoalTrain wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like the new run of Platy's are getting a lugged top/seat tube, 
>>> where as the previous models were welded. Very nice.
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: New Platypus Lug

[Marc Irwin]

Cost was probably involved.  The fillet brazing on the original Platypus 
would be very time consuming and more difficult in a factory setting than 
connecting a few tubes with lug.

Marc

On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 5:50:25 PM UTC-4 allan@gmail.com wrote:

> [image: 0F3B224F-E805-48D6-9A22-8F51C4323F9C.jpeg]Perhaps they dusted off 
> the Betty Foy/Yves Gomez lug…
>
> On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 3:23:46 PM UTC-4 CoalTrain wrote:
>
>> Looks like the new run of Platy's are getting a lugged top/seat tube, 
>> where as the previous models were welded. Very nice.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: New Platypus Lug

[Joe Bernard]

Probably unpopular opinion but I like the original better. The way the 
mid-stays start in front of the seattube and wrap around it looks more 
elegant to me. 

Joe Bernard 

On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 12:23:46 PM UTC-7 CoalTrain wrote:

> Looks like the new run of Platy's are getting a lugged top/seat tube, 
> where as the previous models were welded. Very nice.

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