[RBW] Re: Nice Try, Assholes!

[Jason Fuller]

I live in a high bike-theft city, so choosing an extra sturdy rack, 
checking it that it's in good shape, making sure to lock to the right part 
of the rack, using two locks (and going around at least one wheel) is just 
part of normal lock-up.  I also always try to lock up in front of a cafe or 
somewhere there'll be an idle audience (and potential that me, the owner, 
is keeping an eye) versus somewhere secluded where there are less 
witnesses.  Also, ensuring said place will be open until I get back to my 
bike is key. 

I cannot bring myself to lock up the Hillborne out of sight for any length 
of time, but I do use the Clem as a lockup bike as long as it's not a 
particularly rough area. I use my old Raleigh Twenty for parking in bad 
areas of town or for extended periods. 

I'm a fan of using a Krytonite U-lock from top tube or down tube to rack, 
and then a Abus link lock around the seat tube, rear wheel, and bike rack.  
I also have Pin Head wheel locks as well as little press-in inserts in my 
seat and stem bolts (forget the brand)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Nice Try, Assholes!

[ascpgh]

Ball peen. 

Hammer the end of the threaded stub into a rivet retaining the nut, bike 
rack, locks and bike. Three accurate strikes of a fair sized one should do. 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 12:02:33 PM UTC-4, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote:
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> On Friday, April 3, 2020 at 9:49:15 PM UTC+8, Mike Williams wrote:
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>> I used to see this in the Bay Area sometimes,  store owners/ public works 
>> would put some type of heavy glue/ caulk/ rubber cement on the top of 
>> threads on top of the nut to keep it in a fixed place and it seemed to be a 
>> pretty good deterrent.
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> Caulk and similar goop is easily removed, oftentimes by merely backing the 
> nut out. What is needed are tamper-resistant nuts/bolts. Or weld the darn 
> things onto the rack; it's not as if these racks get moved often.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Nice Try, Assholes!

[Benz, Sunnyvale, CA]

On Friday, April 3, 2020 at 9:49:15 PM UTC+8, Mike Williams wrote:
>
> I used to see this in the Bay Area sometimes,  store owners/ public works 
> would put some type of heavy glue/ caulk/ rubber cement on the top of 
> threads on top of the nut to keep it in a fixed place and it seemed to be a 
> pretty good deterrent.
>

Caulk and similar goop is easily removed, oftentimes by merely backing the 
nut out. What is needed are tamper-resistant nuts/bolts. Or weld the darn 
things onto the rack; it's not as if these racks get moved often.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Nice Try, Assholes!

[Mike Williams]

I used to see this in the Bay Area sometimes,  store owners/ public works would 
put some type of heavy glue/ caulk/ rubber cement on the top of threads on top 
of the nut to keep it in a fixed place and it seemed to be a pretty good 
deterrent.

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> On Apr 3, 2020, at 7:49 AM, Mark Roland  wrote:
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> Maybe we could use the subject line to give a hint as to what the post will 
> be about. It also helps when people search the archives in the future. Then 
> there's this, from the intro to the group: "a respectful, supportive and 
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> I tell my ten-year-old, cursing, most of the time, is just lazy; think of a 
> more creative way to express yourself! (Unless the wrench slips when you're 
> trying to remove that vintage bottom bracket.) There are exceptions, of 
> course, where cursing is creative. It's often in reference to itself, like 
> George Carlin's 7 Dirty Words. Or this Educational Video: 
> https://youtu.be/5EXqPriuHHI
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>> On Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 11:03:37 PM UTC-4, Matthew Williams wrote:
>> Public Service Announcement: Always check the bike rack!
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>> When I went to lock my bike, the rack was loose so I took a close look at 
>> where and how it was anchored to the concrete. Someone had loosened and 
>> removed the fasteners so the bike racks could be easily lifted off the 
>> concrete.
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[RBW] Re: Nice Try, Assholes!

[Mark Roland]

Maybe we could use the subject line to give a hint as to what the post will 
be about. It also helps when people search the archives in the future. Then 
there's this, from the intro to the group: "a respectful, supportive and 
polite tone in all posts."

I tell my ten-year-old, cursing, most of the time, is just lazy; think of a 
more creative way to express yourself! (Unless the wrench slips when you're 
trying to remove that vintage bottom bracket.) There are exceptions, of 
course, where cursing is creative. It's often in reference to itself, like 
George Carlin's 7 Dirty Words. Or this Educational Video: 
https://youtu.be/5EXqPriuHHI

On Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 11:03:37 PM UTC-4, Matthew Williams wrote:
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> Public Service Announcement: Always check the bike rack!
>
> When I went to lock my bike, the rack was loose so I took a close look at 
> where and how it was anchored to the concrete. Someone had loosened and 
> removed the fasteners so the bike racks could be easily lifted off the 
> concrete. 
>
> I showed the manager. "Who would do such a thing?" she asked.
>
> "Bike thieves," I said.
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[RBW] Re: Nice Try, Assholes!

[Bill Lindsay]

If the rack can be disassembled with a wrench then there is no benefit to 
pre-loosening the bolts. Even if they are tight, the thief can still 
disassemble it with a wrench after you park your bike. 

In fact leaving it tight is better for the thief because you won’t notice that 
it’s easy to take apart the rack

Bill Lindsay 
El Cerrito Ca

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[RBW] Re: Nice Try, Assholes!

[dougP]

Obviously these guys planned ahead.  Probably set up more bike racks in the 
area the same way.  Sheesh, one more thing to check before leaving your 
bike.  

dougP

On Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 8:03:37 PM UTC-7, Matthew Williams wrote:
>
> Public Service Announcement: Always check the bike rack!
>
> When I went to lock my bike, the rack was loose so I took a close look at 
> where and how it was anchored to the concrete. Someone had loosened and 
> removed the fasteners so the bike racks could be easily lifted off the 
> concrete. 
>
> I showed the manager. "Who would do such a thing?" she asked.
>
> "Bike thieves," I said.
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