Re: [RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Johnny Burrell]

Sorry bout that. If I could  only have one Rivendell it would be a 
Hunqapillar. If I could only have one bike that wouldn't be it though. I 
live in Portland Oregon, I need disc brakes for winter commuting. I did rim 
brakes for many years and rebuilding wheels gets old.

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Re: [RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Johnny Burrell]

If I could only have one, which I do, it would be a Hunqapillar. If I could 
only have one bike that wouldn't be it though. 

On Sunday, August 28, 2022 at 9:41:37 AM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com wrote:

> Sorry, I thought it had 26” and wanted to go up. Whoops!
>
> On Sunday, August 28, 2022 at 8:59:00 AM UTC-7 Chris L wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately, the Motolite only works for increasing wheel size and not 
>> in the other direction.   I e-mailed Paul when I first read about people 
>> using it for the purpose of running different wheel sizes and he confirmed 
>> it only works in one direction. 
>>
>> On Sunday, August 28, 2022 at 9:54:24 AM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Great looking bike Chris! Have you thought about the Paul Motolite? You 
>>> could go 650b without all the extra work!
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 28, 2022 at 7:39:50 AM UTC-7 Chris L wrote:
>>>
 I've only ridden one Riv and it's hard to imagine there is a better 
 bike for me than my first run 54cm Hunqapillar.  

 Out of the existing Rivendell models, a Bombadil or the 56cm 650B 
 Hunqapillar might be preferable, only because I like fat tires but on 
 smaller wheels.  If I ever have my Hunqapillar painted, which would mean I 
 know I'll keep it until I die, I will probably have disc brake tabs added 
 so I can go 650B.  I've run the numbers and BB height and trail wouldn't 
 be 
 anything unusual. 

 My ultimate hypothetical Rivendell would be the original 56cm 26" 
 wheeled Atlantis with an extra 5cm of top-tube length.  

 [image: 54 Hunqapillar half size.jpg]

 On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 1:32:33 PM UTC-5 Chris Halasz wrote:

> It appears Rivendell declared "ONE BIKE TO RULE THEM ALL" some time 
> ago with the introduction of the Sam Hillborne: 
>
> [image: IMG-4527.jpg]
>
> And, clearly, without evidence of a similar statement for the 
> introduction of a subsequent model, they too must be subservient to the 
> Sam. 
>
> Kidding aside, the wonderful thing about Rivendell bikes is how 
> versatile they are, and the wonderful thing about their owners is how 
> creative and unique are their builds and applications of their preferred 
> models. 
>
> Cheers 
>
> Chris
> Ketchum ID
>
> On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 7:34:41 PM UTC-6 
> alexander...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Chris, i think a Sam would probably be the best option for my riding 
>> as well, if i could only have a single bike.
>>
>> Bill, to your point, i am a multiple bike person. The rivendells i am 
>> interested in reflect that i think - not necessarily the most versatile, 
>> but they would fill out my selection better. I do realize this variance 
>> (among other things) from person to person means that the answers are a 
>> bit 
>> skewed. Still, it's fun to hear what everyone rides most or enjoys most 
>> for 
>> whatever reason!
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2022, 7:53 PM Chris Balaschak  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm the owner of three Rivs, and have generally always enjoyed 
>>> 'road' bikes; that is, a less upright geometry, and drop bars.
>>>
>>> 2014 Sam Hillborne
>>> The Sam is my go-to for just about everything: commuting, exploring, 
>>> getting lost, etc. I have never had a bike fit so comfortably. While 
>>> the 
>>> berthoud saddle definitely helps, the general uprightness of the bike 
>>> works 
>>> so well. Having ridden many road bikes (including a Nobilette I sorely 
>>> miss) the Sam has made me a full convert to just wearing sandals and 
>>> loose-fitting clothes for rides.
>>>
>>> 2006 Legolas
>>> The Legolas is aggressive and nimble by Riv standards (would we 
>>> expect less from Legolas?), and is super fun for what the kids call 
>>> 'gravel' riding. It is road bike geometry, built by Nobilette, 
>>> lightweight, 
>>> and fast. As a CX bike it doesn't fit big tires by today's standards, 
>>> maxing out at about 33-35, but on hardpacked forest roads, it is so 
>>> agile.
>>>
>>> 2006 Rambouillet
>>> The Ram fits somewhere in-between - a bit more roadey than the Sam, 
>>> while more laid back than the Legolas. I like it for long days in the 
>>> saddle, and when I don't want/need to carry anything.
>>>
>>> End of the day, though, Sam would be "the one."
>>>
>>> [image: PXL_20211218_190214864.jpg]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Ryan Frahm]

Sorry, I thought it had 26” and wanted to go up. Whoops!

On Sunday, August 28, 2022 at 8:59:00 AM UTC-7 Chris L wrote:

> Unfortunately, the Motolite only works for increasing wheel size and not 
> in the other direction.   I e-mailed Paul when I first read about people 
> using it for the purpose of running different wheel sizes and he confirmed 
> it only works in one direction. 
>
> On Sunday, August 28, 2022 at 9:54:24 AM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Great looking bike Chris! Have you thought about the Paul Motolite? You 
>> could go 650b without all the extra work!
>>
>> On Sunday, August 28, 2022 at 7:39:50 AM UTC-7 Chris L wrote:
>>
>>> I've only ridden one Riv and it's hard to imagine there is a better bike 
>>> for me than my first run 54cm Hunqapillar.  
>>>
>>> Out of the existing Rivendell models, a Bombadil or the 56cm 650B 
>>> Hunqapillar might be preferable, only because I like fat tires but on 
>>> smaller wheels.  If I ever have my Hunqapillar painted, which would mean I 
>>> know I'll keep it until I die, I will probably have disc brake tabs added 
>>> so I can go 650B.  I've run the numbers and BB height and trail wouldn't be 
>>> anything unusual. 
>>>
>>> My ultimate hypothetical Rivendell would be the original 56cm 26" 
>>> wheeled Atlantis with an extra 5cm of top-tube length.  
>>>
>>> [image: 54 Hunqapillar half size.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 1:32:33 PM UTC-5 Chris Halasz wrote:
>>>
 It appears Rivendell declared "ONE BIKE TO RULE THEM ALL" some time ago 
 with the introduction of the Sam Hillborne: 

 [image: IMG-4527.jpg]

 And, clearly, without evidence of a similar statement for the 
 introduction of a subsequent model, they too must be subservient to the 
 Sam. 

 Kidding aside, the wonderful thing about Rivendell bikes is how 
 versatile they are, and the wonderful thing about their owners is how 
 creative and unique are their builds and applications of their preferred 
 models. 

 Cheers 

 Chris
 Ketchum ID

 On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 7:34:41 PM UTC-6 
 alexander...@gmail.com wrote:

> Chris, i think a Sam would probably be the best option for my riding 
> as well, if i could only have a single bike.
>
> Bill, to your point, i am a multiple bike person. The rivendells i am 
> interested in reflect that i think - not necessarily the most versatile, 
> but they would fill out my selection better. I do realize this variance 
> (among other things) from person to person means that the answers are a 
> bit 
> skewed. Still, it's fun to hear what everyone rides most or enjoys most 
> for 
> whatever reason!
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2022, 7:53 PM Chris Balaschak  
> wrote:
>
>> I'm the owner of three Rivs, and have generally always enjoyed 'road' 
>> bikes; that is, a less upright geometry, and drop bars.
>>
>> 2014 Sam Hillborne
>> The Sam is my go-to for just about everything: commuting, exploring, 
>> getting lost, etc. I have never had a bike fit so comfortably. While the 
>> berthoud saddle definitely helps, the general uprightness of the bike 
>> works 
>> so well. Having ridden many road bikes (including a Nobilette I sorely 
>> miss) the Sam has made me a full convert to just wearing sandals and 
>> loose-fitting clothes for rides.
>>
>> 2006 Legolas
>> The Legolas is aggressive and nimble by Riv standards (would we 
>> expect less from Legolas?), and is super fun for what the kids call 
>> 'gravel' riding. It is road bike geometry, built by Nobilette, 
>> lightweight, 
>> and fast. As a CX bike it doesn't fit big tires by today's standards, 
>> maxing out at about 33-35, but on hardpacked forest roads, it is so 
>> agile.
>>
>> 2006 Rambouillet
>> The Ram fits somewhere in-between - a bit more roadey than the Sam, 
>> while more laid back than the Legolas. I like it for long days in the 
>> saddle, and when I don't want/need to carry anything.
>>
>> End of the day, though, Sam would be "the one."
>>
>> [image: PXL_20211218_190214864.jpg]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Chris L]

Unfortunately, the Motolite only works for increasing wheel size and not in 
the other direction.   I e-mailed Paul when I first read about people using 
it for the purpose of running different wheel sizes and he confirmed it 
only works in one direction. 

On Sunday, August 28, 2022 at 9:54:24 AM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com wrote:

> Great looking bike Chris! Have you thought about the Paul Motolite? You 
> could go 650b without all the extra work!
>
> On Sunday, August 28, 2022 at 7:39:50 AM UTC-7 Chris L wrote:
>
>> I've only ridden one Riv and it's hard to imagine there is a better bike 
>> for me than my first run 54cm Hunqapillar.  
>>
>> Out of the existing Rivendell models, a Bombadil or the 56cm 650B 
>> Hunqapillar might be preferable, only because I like fat tires but on 
>> smaller wheels.  If I ever have my Hunqapillar painted, which would mean I 
>> know I'll keep it until I die, I will probably have disc brake tabs added 
>> so I can go 650B.  I've run the numbers and BB height and trail wouldn't be 
>> anything unusual. 
>>
>> My ultimate hypothetical Rivendell would be the original 56cm 26" wheeled 
>> Atlantis with an extra 5cm of top-tube length.  
>>
>> [image: 54 Hunqapillar half size.jpg]
>>
>> On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 1:32:33 PM UTC-5 Chris Halasz wrote:
>>
>>> It appears Rivendell declared "ONE BIKE TO RULE THEM ALL" some time ago 
>>> with the introduction of the Sam Hillborne: 
>>>
>>> [image: IMG-4527.jpg]
>>>
>>> And, clearly, without evidence of a similar statement for the 
>>> introduction of a subsequent model, they too must be subservient to the 
>>> Sam. 
>>>
>>> Kidding aside, the wonderful thing about Rivendell bikes is how 
>>> versatile they are, and the wonderful thing about their owners is how 
>>> creative and unique are their builds and applications of their preferred 
>>> models. 
>>>
>>> Cheers 
>>>
>>> Chris
>>> Ketchum ID
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 7:34:41 PM UTC-6 alexander...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Chris, i think a Sam would probably be the best option for my riding as 
 well, if i could only have a single bike.

 Bill, to your point, i am a multiple bike person. The rivendells i am 
 interested in reflect that i think - not necessarily the most versatile, 
 but they would fill out my selection better. I do realize this variance 
 (among other things) from person to person means that the answers are a 
 bit 
 skewed. Still, it's fun to hear what everyone rides most or enjoys most 
 for 
 whatever reason!

 On Wed, Aug 24, 2022, 7:53 PM Chris Balaschak  
 wrote:

> I'm the owner of three Rivs, and have generally always enjoyed 'road' 
> bikes; that is, a less upright geometry, and drop bars.
>
> 2014 Sam Hillborne
> The Sam is my go-to for just about everything: commuting, exploring, 
> getting lost, etc. I have never had a bike fit so comfortably. While the 
> berthoud saddle definitely helps, the general uprightness of the bike 
> works 
> so well. Having ridden many road bikes (including a Nobilette I sorely 
> miss) the Sam has made me a full convert to just wearing sandals and 
> loose-fitting clothes for rides.
>
> 2006 Legolas
> The Legolas is aggressive and nimble by Riv standards (would we expect 
> less from Legolas?), and is super fun for what the kids call 'gravel' 
> riding. It is road bike geometry, built by Nobilette, lightweight, and 
> fast. As a CX bike it doesn't fit big tires by today's standards, maxing 
> out at about 33-35, but on hardpacked forest roads, it is so agile.
>
> 2006 Rambouillet
> The Ram fits somewhere in-between - a bit more roadey than the Sam, 
> while more laid back than the Legolas. I like it for long days in the 
> saddle, and when I don't want/need to carry anything.
>
> End of the day, though, Sam would be "the one."
>
> [image: PXL_20211218_190214864.jpg]
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Ryan Frahm]

Great looking bike Chris! Have you thought about the Paul Motolite? You 
could go 650b without all the extra work!

On Sunday, August 28, 2022 at 7:39:50 AM UTC-7 Chris L wrote:

> I've only ridden one Riv and it's hard to imagine there is a better bike 
> for me than my first run 54cm Hunqapillar.  
>
> Out of the existing Rivendell models, a Bombadil or the 56cm 650B 
> Hunqapillar might be preferable, only because I like fat tires but on 
> smaller wheels.  If I ever have my Hunqapillar painted, which would mean I 
> know I'll keep it until I die, I will probably have disc brake tabs added 
> so I can go 650B.  I've run the numbers and BB height and trail wouldn't be 
> anything unusual. 
>
> My ultimate hypothetical Rivendell would be the original 56cm 26" wheeled 
> Atlantis with an extra 5cm of top-tube length.  
>
> [image: 54 Hunqapillar half size.jpg]
>
> On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 1:32:33 PM UTC-5 Chris Halasz wrote:
>
>> It appears Rivendell declared "ONE BIKE TO RULE THEM ALL" some time ago 
>> with the introduction of the Sam Hillborne: 
>>
>> [image: IMG-4527.jpg]
>>
>> And, clearly, without evidence of a similar statement for the 
>> introduction of a subsequent model, they too must be subservient to the 
>> Sam. 
>>
>> Kidding aside, the wonderful thing about Rivendell bikes is how versatile 
>> they are, and the wonderful thing about their owners is how creative and 
>> unique are their builds and applications of their preferred models. 
>>
>> Cheers 
>>
>> Chris
>> Ketchum ID
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 7:34:41 PM UTC-6 alexander...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Chris, i think a Sam would probably be the best option for my riding as 
>>> well, if i could only have a single bike.
>>>
>>> Bill, to your point, i am a multiple bike person. The rivendells i am 
>>> interested in reflect that i think - not necessarily the most versatile, 
>>> but they would fill out my selection better. I do realize this variance 
>>> (among other things) from person to person means that the answers are a bit 
>>> skewed. Still, it's fun to hear what everyone rides most or enjoys most for 
>>> whatever reason!
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2022, 7:53 PM Chris Balaschak  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I'm the owner of three Rivs, and have generally always enjoyed 'road' 
 bikes; that is, a less upright geometry, and drop bars.

 2014 Sam Hillborne
 The Sam is my go-to for just about everything: commuting, exploring, 
 getting lost, etc. I have never had a bike fit so comfortably. While the 
 berthoud saddle definitely helps, the general uprightness of the bike 
 works 
 so well. Having ridden many road bikes (including a Nobilette I sorely 
 miss) the Sam has made me a full convert to just wearing sandals and 
 loose-fitting clothes for rides.

 2006 Legolas
 The Legolas is aggressive and nimble by Riv standards (would we expect 
 less from Legolas?), and is super fun for what the kids call 'gravel' 
 riding. It is road bike geometry, built by Nobilette, lightweight, and 
 fast. As a CX bike it doesn't fit big tires by today's standards, maxing 
 out at about 33-35, but on hardpacked forest roads, it is so agile.

 2006 Rambouillet
 The Ram fits somewhere in-between - a bit more roadey than the Sam, 
 while more laid back than the Legolas. I like it for long days in the 
 saddle, and when I don't want/need to carry anything.

 End of the day, though, Sam would be "the one."

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Re: [RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Chris Halasz]

It appears Rivendell declared "ONE BIKE TO RULE THEM ALL" some time ago 
with the introduction of the Sam Hillborne: 

[image: IMG-4527.jpg]

And, clearly, without evidence of a similar statement for the introduction 
of a subsequent model, they too must be subservient to the Sam. 

Kidding aside, the wonderful thing about Rivendell bikes is how versatile 
they are, and the wonderful thing about their owners is how creative and 
unique are their builds and applications of their preferred models. 

Cheers 

Chris
Ketchum ID

On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 7:34:41 PM UTC-6 alexander...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Chris, i think a Sam would probably be the best option for my riding as 
> well, if i could only have a single bike.
>
> Bill, to your point, i am a multiple bike person. The rivendells i am 
> interested in reflect that i think - not necessarily the most versatile, 
> but they would fill out my selection better. I do realize this variance 
> (among other things) from person to person means that the answers are a bit 
> skewed. Still, it's fun to hear what everyone rides most or enjoys most for 
> whatever reason!
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2022, 7:53 PM Chris Balaschak  wrote:
>
>> I'm the owner of three Rivs, and have generally always enjoyed 'road' 
>> bikes; that is, a less upright geometry, and drop bars.
>>
>> 2014 Sam Hillborne
>> The Sam is my go-to for just about everything: commuting, exploring, 
>> getting lost, etc. I have never had a bike fit so comfortably. While the 
>> berthoud saddle definitely helps, the general uprightness of the bike works 
>> so well. Having ridden many road bikes (including a Nobilette I sorely 
>> miss) the Sam has made me a full convert to just wearing sandals and 
>> loose-fitting clothes for rides.
>>
>> 2006 Legolas
>> The Legolas is aggressive and nimble by Riv standards (would we expect 
>> less from Legolas?), and is super fun for what the kids call 'gravel' 
>> riding. It is road bike geometry, built by Nobilette, lightweight, and 
>> fast. As a CX bike it doesn't fit big tires by today's standards, maxing 
>> out at about 33-35, but on hardpacked forest roads, it is so agile.
>>
>> 2006 Rambouillet
>> The Ram fits somewhere in-between - a bit more roadey than the Sam, while 
>> more laid back than the Legolas. I like it for long days in the saddle, and 
>> when I don't want/need to carry anything.
>>
>> End of the day, though, Sam would be "the one."
>>
>> [image: PXL_20211218_190214864.jpg]
>>
>>
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Joe Bernard]

[  "You do pretty good on that thing" gets tiresome. ]

That's you on the Riv Ride up Mt. Diablo around 2006. Everyone gathered 
around after you rode a singlespeed to the ranger station muttering "that's 
impressive, but he's CRAZY." 

On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:02:16 AM UTC-7 Philip Williamson wrote:

> Bill laid out a good summary of the different ways people approach this 
> question.
> I've only ever owned a single Rivendell - my 2004 Quickbeam.
>
>- As an answer to "what one Riv would you have among other bikes," it 
>would be my Quickbeam. I have this. If I had TWO bikes, the Quickbeam 
> would 
>be one. 
>- As an answer to "what one Riv would you have as your only bike," 10 
>years ago it would be the Quickbeam, but today it would probably be an 
>Atlantis or some well-used 1993 Allrounder. I'm older, fatter, slower, and 
>I do longer rides and bike camp with other people. They do not ride fixed 
>gears in that way, even those with Quickbeams. When you're riding with 
>people it's more fun if you're rolling with similar equipment and rhythm. 
>"You do pretty good on that thing" gets tiresome. 
>- As an answer to "what one Riv would be perfectly optimized for a 
>kind riding you love," it would probably be a Legolas. 
>
> Philip
> Sonoma County, Calif
>
> On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 5:24:18 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> The OP asked the classic "which Riv if you could only have one?"  It's 
>> not clear to me whether the OP realizes how little that question has to do 
>> with bicycles or Rivendells and how much that question has to do with 
>> people.  There have been a good spectrum of replies, not directly because 
>> there's a broad spectrum of Rivendells, but because there is a broad 
>> spectrum of people who ride these bicycles.  
>>
>> One category of people is the "versatility" group, who would choose a 
>> particular Rivendell model because they can set it up with different 
>> cockpits, different tires, different rack and luggage configurations and 
>> make one bike into many bikes over its life.  Another subset of the 
>> versatility group are those with a single Riv build and it does everything 
>> they need to do on a bike.  It's a grab and go machine that is down for 
>> whatever.  Others have a much more surgical approach to their stable, 
>> having a particular bike optimized for a particular kind of use-case.  For 
>> those people, many would first choose "one type of cycling" and then choose 
>> the perfect bike for that one limited use-case.  
>>
>> I'm one of those many-bikes people, and I have several Rivendells.  As of 
>> now, I've got a Legolas, Quickbeam, Hillborne, and HubbaHubbaH.  I've also 
>> had a Bombadil, Hilsen, two Atlantis', two Rosco Bubbes and a Roadeo.  I 
>> have another Roadeo on the way.  If I had to limit down to one Rivendell, 
>> and got to fully stock the rest of my stable with other things, maybe I'd 
>> keep the Quickbeam.  If I had to limit my stable down to a single bicycle 
>> and it had to be a Rivendell, I'd likely stick with the Hillborne.  If I 
>> had to limit my cycling down to a single particular use case, and then pick 
>> an optimized bike for that use case, and it had to be a Rivendell, then I'd 
>> probably choose my forthcoming Roadeo.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 5:29:44 PM UTC-7 alexander...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm a new group member but long time Riv fan. I recently came the 
>>> closest I've come to actually buying Rivendell, having only recently 
>>> reached a point where it has not felt out of reach financially. Anyway, it 
>>> got me wondering - what is the one model you would choose, current or 
>>> discontinued, if you could only have one?
>>>
>>> Alternately, what is your favorite Rivendell you have owned?
>>>
>>> Asking in part because I am wondering where to start myself - I've 
>>> wanted a Hunqapillar for a long time, and recently have become a bit 
>>> obsessed with the Quickbeam as well - but every model seems great in its 
>>> own way. Mostly just curious what you all find yourself riding the most 
>>> though!
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Philip Williamson]

Bill laid out a good summary of the different ways people approach this 
question.
I've only ever owned a single Rivendell - my 2004 Quickbeam.

   - As an answer to "what one Riv would you have among other bikes," it 
   would be my Quickbeam. I have this. If I had TWO bikes, the Quickbeam would 
   be one. 
   - As an answer to "what one Riv would you have as your only bike," 10 
   years ago it would be the Quickbeam, but today it would probably be an 
   Atlantis or some well-used 1993 Allrounder. I'm older, fatter, slower, and 
   I do longer rides and bike camp with other people. They do not ride fixed 
   gears in that way, even those with Quickbeams. When you're riding with 
   people it's more fun if you're rolling with similar equipment and rhythm. 
   "You do pretty good on that thing" gets tiresome. 
   - As an answer to "what one Riv would be perfectly optimized for a kind 
   riding you love," it would probably be a Legolas. 

Philip
Sonoma County, Calif

On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 5:24:18 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> The OP asked the classic "which Riv if you could only have one?"  It's not 
> clear to me whether the OP realizes how little that question has to do with 
> bicycles or Rivendells and how much that question has to do with people.  
> There have been a good spectrum of replies, not directly because there's a 
> broad spectrum of Rivendells, but because there is a broad spectrum of 
> people who ride these bicycles.  
>
> One category of people is the "versatility" group, who would choose a 
> particular Rivendell model because they can set it up with different 
> cockpits, different tires, different rack and luggage configurations and 
> make one bike into many bikes over its life.  Another subset of the 
> versatility group are those with a single Riv build and it does everything 
> they need to do on a bike.  It's a grab and go machine that is down for 
> whatever.  Others have a much more surgical approach to their stable, 
> having a particular bike optimized for a particular kind of use-case.  For 
> those people, many would first choose "one type of cycling" and then choose 
> the perfect bike for that one limited use-case.  
>
> I'm one of those many-bikes people, and I have several Rivendells.  As of 
> now, I've got a Legolas, Quickbeam, Hillborne, and HubbaHubbaH.  I've also 
> had a Bombadil, Hilsen, two Atlantis', two Rosco Bubbes and a Roadeo.  I 
> have another Roadeo on the way.  If I had to limit down to one Rivendell, 
> and got to fully stock the rest of my stable with other things, maybe I'd 
> keep the Quickbeam.  If I had to limit my stable down to a single bicycle 
> and it had to be a Rivendell, I'd likely stick with the Hillborne.  If I 
> had to limit my cycling down to a single particular use case, and then pick 
> an optimized bike for that use case, and it had to be a Rivendell, then I'd 
> probably choose my forthcoming Roadeo.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 5:29:44 PM UTC-7 alexander...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm a new group member but long time Riv fan. I recently came the closest 
>> I've come to actually buying Rivendell, having only recently reached a 
>> point where it has not felt out of reach financially. Anyway, it got me 
>> wondering - what is the one model you would choose, current or 
>> discontinued, if you could only have one?
>>
>> Alternately, what is your favorite Rivendell you have owned?
>>
>> Asking in part because I am wondering where to start myself - I've wanted 
>> a Hunqapillar for a long time, and recently have become a bit obsessed with 
>> the Quickbeam as well - but every model seems great in its own way. Mostly 
>> just curious what you all find yourself riding the most though!
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Joe Bernard]

Oooh, that's cool. Albastache Bars with orange gives it a mixte XO-1 vibe! 

On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 1:00:36 PM UTC-7 ttoshi wrote:

> Yes, I'm definitely part of the Riv mixte club!  I think my Cheviot is my 
> most ridden Riv right now as it serves as my daily commuter.  Here's a pic 
> with it loaded up with an early pandemic grocery run.
>
> Toshi in Oakland
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Ben Mihovk]

In keeping with what Bill said, I'll answer but I'll say which type of 
person I am before doing so...

I'm a two-bike person...

I have my Atlantis that is set up for commuting and carrying a lot if 
necessary. Upright and swept back bars, front rack and rear rack, fenders, 
700x44 all road tires. Slimsuker on the saddle, X-Small saddle sack on 
handlebars. Great for urban rides and getting to and from work on days I 
ride. 

I have my Sam set up for fun mixed-surface rides. Noodle drops, 38mm 
Gravelking Slicks, no racks, x-small saddle sack on the saddle for tool kit 
and snacks. I need to get a shorter stem...I'd like the hoods to be a touch 
closer and I already have the bars as high as they'll go, but still a fun 
bike for long rides where there's not really an agenda.

If I had to keep one of the two, I'd keep the Atlantis just because most of 
my riding is to and from work. I've taken the Sam to work and it's fine, 
but I like the v-brakes on the Atlantis (no canti posts on my Sam to 
convert) for riding on streets, and though I love the drops for long 
stretches of cruising, I'm way more comfortable and nimble with the Choco 
bars...especially with using a helmet mirror, I need to stay in one 
position to get a sense of what's going on behind me. Finally, with the 
Sams being a less stout in tubing and fork, the Atlantis works better for 
me. I meet the recommended weight for a Sam, but I'd be in the 230-240 
pound range of rider weight + cargo with all my work  stuff and stopping 
for a few things at the store on the way home. I love my Sam, but I only 
carry the necessities when I ride it. 

Ben in Omaha


On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 7:34:19 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:

> Jim,
>
> Like you and Emily (three happy Platy riders--mine is 55 Mermaid) at first 
> I was taken aback by the prices, but I got to test ride the Chev, 
> Appaloosa, Sam and Atlantis all in my size at the shop before I bought in 
> 2017.  For me, it was that one run around the parking on the Appaloosa that 
> that clinched it (I loved the Atlantis, too, but at that time, it was MUSA 
> and way out of my budget).  So, how much is it worth to me to have NO NECK 
> PAIN (vs wanting to cry after each ride with my previous bike)?
>
> The joy of being comfortable on a bike and to bike more often and longer 
> without any pain than I could ever do before is nearly priceless.  I bought 
> the bike for exercise, but it's brought me so much joy than I ever thought 
> an inanimate object could!   Worth every penny!
>
> Roberta
>
> On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 12:30:39 PM UTC-4 jim.k...@abbvie.com wrote:
>
>> Alexander, I'm out in the western burbs (Downers Grove) with a big 
>> Platypus--if you're interested, give me a shout. I love mine, but my last 
>> bike was a Sanwa from the mid 80's--and that's the last time I rode it... 
>> so I'm not a good resource for comparisons. 
>>
>> As Emily said, I was a bit mortified that I spent this much on a bike, 
>> but it is a ridable piece of art... and it makes me very happy.
>>
>> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 12:39:19 PM UTC-5 alexander...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Karl, I am in Chicago and PBH is 88. If anyone is local and would be 
>>> willing to let me try something out I'd be grateful! I also think there is 
>>> a shop not to far from me that carries them, I've been meaning to go see 
>>> what they have for a while.
>>>
>>> Rich, I suspect once I get one more will follow! I think the first will 
>>> likely be something used, so it may just come down to what pops up in my 
>>> size/budget. But who knows, the orange color of the Appaloosa is calling to 
>>> me as well, so if they make more that could end up being it as well. That 
>>> Hillborne looks super fun, love that color and bag setup. Looks very 
>>> capable for Atlanta's hills and potholes - I grew up there and my family is 
>>> all still in the city
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 12:24:19 PM UTC-5 RichS wrote:
>>>
>> Alexander,

 Welcome to the group! Terrific collection of Rivendells on this thread. 

 Not an easy decision to select your first Rivendell. I went through 
 this exercise years ago and landed on a Waterford built Atlantis. There is 
 a common feeling running through Riv owners that says you can't have just 
 one Rivendell. True enough I discovered. A Sam Hillborne followed shortly 
 after acquiring the Atlantis. Others followed: Clem H, Roadeo, and a 
 Taiwan 
 built Homer. All except the Sam have moved on. Pic shows it in commuter 
 mode; it's done everything well for me including brevets. 

 My advice is to take your best shot at what you think works for your 
 needs now and dive in. It's likely you won't be disappointed. As a bonus, 
 the customer service rendered by Grant and the crew is outstanding! 

 Best,
 Rich in ATL

 On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 8:29:44 PM UTC-4 alexander...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

>>> Hi all,

[RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Roberta]

Jim,

Like you and Emily (three happy Platy riders--mine is 55 Mermaid) at first 
I was taken aback by the prices, but I got to test ride the Chev, 
Appaloosa, Sam and Atlantis all in my size at the shop before I bought in 
2017.  For me, it was that one run around the parking on the Appaloosa that 
that clinched it (I loved the Atlantis, too, but at that time, it was MUSA 
and way out of my budget).  So, how much is it worth to me to have NO NECK 
PAIN (vs wanting to cry after each ride with my previous bike)?

The joy of being comfortable on a bike and to bike more often and longer 
without any pain than I could ever do before is nearly priceless.  I bought 
the bike for exercise, but it's brought me so much joy than I ever thought 
an inanimate object could!   Worth every penny!

Roberta

On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 12:30:39 PM UTC-4 jim.k...@abbvie.com wrote:

> Alexander, I'm out in the western burbs (Downers Grove) with a big 
> Platypus--if you're interested, give me a shout. I love mine, but my last 
> bike was a Sanwa from the mid 80's--and that's the last time I rode it... 
> so I'm not a good resource for comparisons. 
>
> As Emily said, I was a bit mortified that I spent this much on a bike, but 
> it is a ridable piece of art... and it makes me very happy.
>
> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 12:39:19 PM UTC-5 alexander...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Karl, I am in Chicago and PBH is 88. If anyone is local and would be 
>> willing to let me try something out I'd be grateful! I also think there is 
>> a shop not to far from me that carries them, I've been meaning to go see 
>> what they have for a while.
>>
>> Rich, I suspect once I get one more will follow! I think the first will 
>> likely be something used, so it may just come down to what pops up in my 
>> size/budget. But who knows, the orange color of the Appaloosa is calling to 
>> me as well, so if they make more that could end up being it as well. That 
>> Hillborne looks super fun, love that color and bag setup. Looks very 
>> capable for Atlanta's hills and potholes - I grew up there and my family is 
>> all still in the city
>>
>> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 12:24:19 PM UTC-5 RichS wrote:
>>
> Alexander,
>>>
>>> Welcome to the group! Terrific collection of Rivendells on this thread. 
>>>
>>> Not an easy decision to select your first Rivendell. I went through this 
>>> exercise years ago and landed on a Waterford built Atlantis. There is a 
>>> common feeling running through Riv owners that says you can't have just one 
>>> Rivendell. True enough I discovered. A Sam Hillborne followed shortly after 
>>> acquiring the Atlantis. Others followed: Clem H, Roadeo, and a Taiwan built 
>>> Homer. All except the Sam have moved on. Pic shows it in commuter mode; 
>>> it's done everything well for me including brevets. 
>>>
>>> My advice is to take your best shot at what you think works for your 
>>> needs now and dive in. It's likely you won't be disappointed. As a bonus, 
>>> the customer service rendered by Grant and the crew is outstanding! 
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Rich in ATL
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 8:29:44 PM UTC-4 alexander...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>> Hi all,

 I'm a new group member but long time Riv fan. I recently came the 
 closest I've come to actually buying Rivendell, having only recently 
 reached a point where it has not felt out of reach financially. Anyway, it 
 got me wondering - what is the one model you would choose, current or 
 discontinued, if you could only have one?

 Alternately, what is your favorite Rivendell you have owned?

 Asking in part because I am wondering where to start myself - I've 
 wanted a Hunqapillar for a long time, and recently have become a bit 
 obsessed with the Quickbeam as well - but every model seems great in its 
 own way. Mostly just curious what you all find yourself riding the most 
 though!

>>>

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[RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Bill Lindsay]

The OP asked the classic "which Riv if you could only have one?"  It's not 
clear to me whether the OP realizes how little that question has to do with 
bicycles or Rivendells and how much that question has to do with people.  
There have been a good spectrum of replies, not directly because there's a 
broad spectrum of Rivendells, but because there is a broad spectrum of 
people who ride these bicycles.  

One category of people is the "versatility" group, who would choose a 
particular Rivendell model because they can set it up with different 
cockpits, different tires, different rack and luggage configurations and 
make one bike into many bikes over its life.  Another subset of the 
versatility group are those with a single Riv build and it does everything 
they need to do on a bike.  It's a grab and go machine that is down for 
whatever.  Others have a much more surgical approach to their stable, 
having a particular bike optimized for a particular kind of use-case.  For 
those people, many would first choose "one type of cycling" and then choose 
the perfect bike for that one limited use-case.  

I'm one of those many-bikes people, and I have several Rivendells.  As of 
now, I've got a Legolas, Quickbeam, Hillborne, and HubbaHubbaH.  I've also 
had a Bombadil, Hilsen, two Atlantis', two Rosco Bubbes and a Roadeo.  I 
have another Roadeo on the way.  If I had to limit down to one Rivendell, 
and got to fully stock the rest of my stable with other things, maybe I'd 
keep the Quickbeam.  If I had to limit my stable down to a single bicycle 
and it had to be a Rivendell, I'd likely stick with the Hillborne.  If I 
had to limit my cycling down to a single particular use case, and then pick 
an optimized bike for that use case, and it had to be a Rivendell, then I'd 
probably choose my forthcoming Roadeo.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 5:29:44 PM UTC-7 alexander...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm a new group member but long time Riv fan. I recently came the closest 
> I've come to actually buying Rivendell, having only recently reached a 
> point where it has not felt out of reach financially. Anyway, it got me 
> wondering - what is the one model you would choose, current or 
> discontinued, if you could only have one?
>
> Alternately, what is your favorite Rivendell you have owned?
>
> Asking in part because I am wondering where to start myself - I've wanted 
> a Hunqapillar for a long time, and recently have become a bit obsessed with 
> the Quickbeam as well - but every model seems great in its own way. Mostly 
> just curious what you all find yourself riding the most though!
>

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[RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

['Jim Kofron' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Alexander, I'm out in the western burbs (Downers Grove) with a big 
Platypus--if you're interested, give me a shout. I love mine, but my last 
bike was a Sanwa from the mid 80's--and that's the last time I rode it... 
so I'm not a good resource for comparisons. 

As Emily said, I was a bit mortified that I spent this much on a bike, but 
it is a ridable piece of art... and it makes me very happy.

On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 12:39:19 PM UTC-5 alexander...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Karl, I am in Chicago and PBH is 88. If anyone is local and would be 
> willing to let me try something out I'd be grateful! I also think there is 
> a shop not to far from me that carries them, I've been meaning to go see 
> what they have for a while.
>
> Rich, I suspect once I get one more will follow! I think the first will 
> likely be something used, so it may just come down to what pops up in my 
> size/budget. But who knows, the orange color of the Appaloosa is calling to 
> me as well, so if they make more that could end up being it as well. That 
> Hillborne looks super fun, love that color and bag setup. Looks very 
> capable for Atlanta's hills and potholes - I grew up there and my family is 
> all still in the city
>
> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 12:24:19 PM UTC-5 RichS wrote:
>
>> Alexander,
>>
>> Welcome to the group! Terrific collection of Rivendells on this thread. 
>>
>> Not an easy decision to select your first Rivendell. I went through this 
>> exercise years ago and landed on a Waterford built Atlantis. There is a 
>> common feeling running through Riv owners that says you can't have just one 
>> Rivendell. True enough I discovered. A Sam Hillborne followed shortly after 
>> acquiring the Atlantis. Others followed: Clem H, Roadeo, and a Taiwan built 
>> Homer. All except the Sam have moved on. Pic shows it in commuter mode; 
>> it's done everything well for me including brevets. 
>>
>> My advice is to take your best shot at what you think works for your 
>> needs now and dive in. It's likely you won't be disappointed. As a bonus, 
>> the customer service rendered by Grant and the crew is outstanding! 
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>>
>> On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 8:29:44 PM UTC-4 alexander...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm a new group member but long time Riv fan. I recently came the 
>>> closest I've come to actually buying Rivendell, having only recently 
>>> reached a point where it has not felt out of reach financially. Anyway, it 
>>> got me wondering - what is the one model you would choose, current or 
>>> discontinued, if you could only have one?
>>>
>>> Alternately, what is your favorite Rivendell you have owned?
>>>
>>> Asking in part because I am wondering where to start myself - I've 
>>> wanted a Hunqapillar for a long time, and recently have become a bit 
>>> obsessed with the Quickbeam as well - but every model seems great in its 
>>> own way. Mostly just curious what you all find yourself riding the most 
>>> though!
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Fred Marsh]

Thinking of getting canti-studs brazed on my Bleriot. Then the answer would 
be my Bleriot:

https://i.imgur.com/k7RGTgN.jpg

On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 4:01:36 PM UTC-5 J J wrote:

> Hahaha. Leah, I think you already took the cake! You having a pair of 
> Platypuses has always seemed perfectly reasonable, natural, and sensible. 
> Now if I can only find another 58 Hunqapillar I'll be all set. (I suppose 
> I'd settle for a Bombadil...)
> This thread is great.
>
> On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 4:45:16 PM UTC-4 Edwin W wrote:
>
>> #1 model to choose: the one you have/could easily get. For me that is the 
>> Appaloosa which I have now.
>> If I were starting all over...
>> #1 dream, but I cannot get it right now is the original Atlantis 64cm 
>> with one top tube. 
>> **Let me know if you are getting rid of one**
>> #2 Appaloosa
>> #3 Original Hunq
>> But they are all so good I do not want to rank them and would be happy 
>> with any model from any year.
>>
>> Edwin 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Joe Bernard]

Quickbeam remains my favorite model name and I didn't even know at the time 
it was a Tolkien reference. I was at Riv looking at the original prototype 
and mentioned to Mark Abele that I loved the tree on the headbadge, he told 
me Quickbeam is an Ent. A talking tree! Love it. 

On Sunday, August 14, 2022 at 12:04:36 PM UTC-7 alexander...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Love that bombadill, and those reasons make a lot of sense to me. I will 
> admit part of the draw of the Quickbeam (over the Simpleone and Roaduno) is 
> the Tolkien name!
>
> On Sun, Aug 14, 2022, 1:23 PM lconley  wrote:
>
>> I currently own 12 Rivendells and have owned 3 others.
>> I am going to go with the 52cm Bombadil as the One Rivendell to Rule Them 
>> All:
>> 1. It is the Rivendell that I have owned the longest.
>> 2. It is the only Rivendell that I own that has a name from the Tolkien 
>> books.
>> 3. It can do anything, my Custom is kind of specialized in nature. My 
>> goal in building the bike was "What bike would I build to ride around the 
>> world?" It has 40 spoke wheels, a 7 speed freewheel Phil Wood rear hub - 
>> almost zero offset - very strong. Front and rear Nitto racks, aged Brooks 
>> B-68, SON front dyno hub, matching tweed Nigel Smyth. Shimano Altus RD
>> 4. Made in USA - Waterford built the frame, Nobilette added the rear 
>> tentacles.
>> 3. It is the Rivendell that I have done the longest ride on - 2 day Cross 
>> Florida Ride - 170 miles.
>> It is in the middle of a parts swap, and installing fenders, - incomplete 
>> but here it is:
>>
>>
>> [image: bomb2s.jpg]
>>
>> Laing
>> Delray Beach FL
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Re: [RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Alexander Chalmers]

Joe, I haven't ridden one, but the rivendell step throughs all seem
extremely capable. Actually for a while i thought my first Riv would either
be a Clem L or a Gus - still might be! I love the idea of a really robust
step though for off road use

On Sat, Aug 13, 2022, 11:24 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> I would quibble a bit with the Cheviot and Platypus being pegged as
> 'around town bikes', I think the droptube mixte style tags them (and my
> custom) that way unfairly and probably always will. I owned a Cheviot and
> rode a prototype Platy, they both felt like what my brain understands as a
> lugged steel road bike you could ride all day with not-too-crazy loads. My
> reference is Romulus, Rambouillet and Roadini with slightly longer
> chainstays and a dropped toptube.
>
> Which of course also makes a great around town bike, all Rivs do!
>
> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 4:31:32 PM UTC-7 Chris Halasz wrote:
>
>> I can't say it rules them all, but I consider my Sam the great in-between
>> bike: Not so off-road as an Appaloosa, not so road-oriented as a Roadeo or
>> Roadini, not so load-bearing as a Bombadil or Atlantis, not so around town
>> as the Cheviot or Platypus - you get it. I don't see it as a compromise so
>> much as it being situated somewhere near the center of the Rivendell
>> evolutionary tree.
>>
>> It's my one bike now, after having a Road Standard, Long Low, Bleriot,
>> Bombadil, and Platypus. I don't go to its tire width extreme, staying more
>> in the 35-40mm width range, and only use a rear rack. I'd consider
>> migrating to a Roadini or Roadeo, but someone recently posted those feel a
>> little stiffer in the ride. I like the double top tube as well!
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 2:04:28 PM UTC-7 alexander...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Conway, I am potentially interested! Would you send me some
>>> pictures/details?
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022, 3:42 PM Conway Bennett 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Alex,

  I'm in Chicagoland, I have an 88 PBH, and I have a 58 cm first
 generation Quickbeam I am passively selling.

 On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 12:39:19 PM UTC-5
 alexander...@gmail.com wrote:

> Karl, I am in Chicago and PBH is 88. If anyone is local and would be
> willing to let me try something out I'd be grateful! I also think there is
> a shop not to far from me that carries them, I've been meaning to go see
> what they have for a while.
>
> Rich, I suspect once I get one more will follow! I think the first
> will likely be something used, so it may just come down to what pops up in
> my size/budget. But who knows, the orange color of the Appaloosa is 
> calling
> to me as well, so if they make more that could end up being it as well.
> That Hillborne looks super fun, love that color and bag setup. Looks very
> capable for Atlanta's hills and potholes - I grew up there and my family 
> is
> all still in the city
>
> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 12:24:19 PM UTC-5 RichS wrote:
>
>> Alexander,
>>
>> Welcome to the group! Terrific collection of Rivendells on this
>> thread.
>>
>> Not an easy decision to select your first Rivendell. I went through
>> this exercise years ago and landed on a Waterford built Atlantis. There 
>> is
>> a common feeling running through Riv owners that says you can't have just
>> one Rivendell. True enough I discovered. A Sam Hillborne followed shortly
>> after acquiring the Atlantis. Others followed: Clem H, Roadeo, and a 
>> Taiwan
>> built Homer. All except the Sam have moved on. Pic shows it in commuter
>> mode; it's done everything well for me including brevets.
>>
>> My advice is to take your best shot at what you think works for your
>> needs now and dive in. It's likely you won't be disappointed. As a bonus,
>> the customer service rendered by Grant and the crew is outstanding!
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>>
>> On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 8:29:44 PM UTC-4
>> alexander...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm a new group member but long time Riv fan. I recently came the
>>> closest I've come to actually buying Rivendell, having only recently
>>> reached a point where it has not felt out of reach financially. Anyway, 
>>> it
>>> got me wondering - what is the one model you would choose, current or
>>> discontinued, if you could only have one?
>>>
>>> Alternately, what is your favorite Rivendell you have owned?
>>>
>>> Asking in part because I am wondering where to start myself - I've
>>> wanted a Hunqapillar for a long time, and recently have become a bit
>>> obsessed with the Quickbeam as well - but every model seems great in its
>>> own way. Mostly just curious what you all find yourself riding the most
>>> though!
>>>
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[RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Fullylugged]

I'm going to agree with Andy here. My Rambouillet has been built up is a 
couple of different ways and has been excellent each time. Great handing 
and very capable on fast, curvy downhills. I prefer it to the 
Saluki/(Hilsen is the same bike and Hillborne is very similar) which I 
ended up selling.  I also have an an early Road pre-production sample and 
like it a lot, but it is less versatile.  There are plenty of miles on both 
however. I have not ridden a Platy yet, but from what I read, I wonder if 
it's feel is Ram-ish.

Bruce

On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 5:57:18 AM UTC-5 ascpgh wrote:

> Welcome Alexander, Rivendell is like a garage party with a band that's a 
> more humbling experience with talent, better than a huge show at a big 
> forum. 
>
> Back in my shop days Bridgestone was our bread and butter. Grant earned 
> the ability to design the US market product and they were so much better 
> riding bikes that even an average rider would return smiling after a 
> fifteen minute test ride. Not the highest volume bikes, Grant even told us 
> they would be the hardest to sell since folks want to believe what they 
> already do, even if presented with examples otherwise.
>
> I called Grant several years into Rivendell after Bridgestone when I 
> needed a bike more specific for longer rides, farther from home than my 
> RB-1 (which didn't really fit me-my legs are too long for my height). From 
> the Rivendell Reader and catalog I was thinking I needed a custom but he 
> told me about the Rambouillet. It was the next "stock" model, stablemate of 
> the already in production Atlantis and checked the boxes of my list, adding 
> some I hadn't considered. 
>
> I rode my Rambouillet across the country and on every ride I took since 
> including some things less than fire trails, having long been an underbiker 
> and gone miles on forest service "roads" on bikes not apparent to that use. 
> We were riding gravel before its current adherents were born and I used my 
> XO-2 and RB-1. Rivendell marketed the model name as the useful, dependable 
> sheep that provided much utility to those keeping flocks of them. 
>
> My Rambouillet shines in it's smoothness of ride and predictable handling. 
> Much of that is because of how well it fits me, something random other 
> riders have noted to me on rides. A the Five Boros ride in NYC my wife 
> tired of how frequently folks approached and remarked on my Rambouillet and 
> was who pointed out how sour those around us on what she called modern 
> bikes looked. The bike continues to be a bike people comment on regardless 
> of how expensive proximate modern bikes are.
>
> It's a bike that can be used in many ways that rewards my uses. Sort of 
> where the brand and Grant position themselves.
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgg
> On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 8:29:44 PM UTC-4 alexander...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm a new group member but long time Riv fan. I recently came the closest 
>> I've come to actually buying Rivendell, having only recently reached a 
>> point where it has not felt out of reach financially. Anyway, it got me 
>> wondering - what is the one model you would choose, current or 
>> discontinued, if you could only have one?
>>
>> Alternately, what is your favorite Rivendell you have owned?
>>
>> Asking in part because I am wondering where to start myself - I've wanted 
>> a Hunqapillar for a long time, and recently have become a bit obsessed with 
>> the Quickbeam as well - but every model seems great in its own way. Mostly 
>> just curious what you all find yourself riding the most though!
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Joe Bernard]

Adding: My comments are intended as conversational about Riv models, not 
argumentative. Cuz I think I sound argumentative 

On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 9:24:23 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I would quibble a bit with the Cheviot and Platypus being pegged as 
> 'around town bikes', I think the droptube mixte style tags them (and my 
> custom) that way unfairly and probably always will. I owned a Cheviot and 
> rode a prototype Platy, they both felt like what my brain understands as a 
> lugged steel road bike you could ride all day with not-too-crazy loads. My 
> reference is Romulus, Rambouillet and Roadini with slightly longer 
> chainstays and a dropped toptube. 
>
> Which of course also makes a great around town bike, all Rivs do! 
>
> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 4:31:32 PM UTC-7 Chris Halasz wrote:
>
>> I can't say it rules them all, but I consider my Sam the great in-between 
>> bike: Not so off-road as an Appaloosa, not so road-oriented as a Roadeo or 
>> Roadini, not so load-bearing as a Bombadil or Atlantis, not so around town 
>> as the Cheviot or Platypus - you get it. I don't see it as a compromise so 
>> much as it being situated somewhere near the center of the Rivendell 
>> evolutionary tree. 
>>
>> It's my one bike now, after having a Road Standard, Long Low, Bleriot, 
>> Bombadil, and Platypus. I don't go to its tire width extreme, staying more 
>> in the 35-40mm width range, and only use a rear rack. I'd consider 
>> migrating to a Roadini or Roadeo, but someone recently posted those feel a 
>> little stiffer in the ride. I like the double top tube as well! 
>>
>> Cheers, 
>>
>> Chris 
>>
>> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 2:04:28 PM UTC-7 alexander...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Conway, I am potentially interested! Would you send me some 
>>> pictures/details?
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022, 3:42 PM Conway Bennett  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Alex,

  I'm in Chicagoland, I have an 88 PBH, and I have a 58 cm first 
 generation Quickbeam I am passively selling.

 On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 12:39:19 PM UTC-5 
 alexander...@gmail.com wrote:

> Karl, I am in Chicago and PBH is 88. If anyone is local and would be 
> willing to let me try something out I'd be grateful! I also think there 
> is 
> a shop not to far from me that carries them, I've been meaning to go see 
> what they have for a while.
>
> Rich, I suspect once I get one more will follow! I think the first 
> will likely be something used, so it may just come down to what pops up 
> in 
> my size/budget. But who knows, the orange color of the Appaloosa is 
> calling 
> to me as well, so if they make more that could end up being it as well. 
> That Hillborne looks super fun, love that color and bag setup. Looks very 
> capable for Atlanta's hills and potholes - I grew up there and my family 
> is 
> all still in the city
>
> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 12:24:19 PM UTC-5 RichS wrote:
>
>> Alexander,
>>
>> Welcome to the group! Terrific collection of Rivendells on this 
>> thread. 
>>
>> Not an easy decision to select your first Rivendell. I went through 
>> this exercise years ago and landed on a Waterford built Atlantis. There 
>> is 
>> a common feeling running through Riv owners that says you can't have 
>> just 
>> one Rivendell. True enough I discovered. A Sam Hillborne followed 
>> shortly 
>> after acquiring the Atlantis. Others followed: Clem H, Roadeo, and a 
>> Taiwan 
>> built Homer. All except the Sam have moved on. Pic shows it in commuter 
>> mode; it's done everything well for me including brevets. 
>>
>> My advice is to take your best shot at what you think works for your 
>> needs now and dive in. It's likely you won't be disappointed. As a 
>> bonus, 
>> the customer service rendered by Grant and the crew is outstanding! 
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>>
>> On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 8:29:44 PM UTC-4 
>> alexander...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm a new group member but long time Riv fan. I recently came the 
>>> closest I've come to actually buying Rivendell, having only recently 
>>> reached a point where it has not felt out of reach financially. Anyway, 
>>> it 
>>> got me wondering - what is the one model you would choose, current or 
>>> discontinued, if you could only have one?
>>>
>>> Alternately, what is your favorite Rivendell you have owned?
>>>
>>> Asking in part because I am wondering where to start myself - I've 
>>> wanted a Hunqapillar for a long time, and recently have become a bit 
>>> obsessed with the Quickbeam as well - but every model seems great in 
>>> its 
>>> own way. Mostly just curious what you all find yourself riding the most 
>>> though!
>>>
>> -- 

>>> You received this 

Re: [RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Joe Bernard]

I would quibble a bit with the Cheviot and Platypus being pegged as 'around 
town bikes', I think the droptube mixte style tags them (and my custom) 
that way unfairly and probably always will. I owned a Cheviot and rode a 
prototype Platy, they both felt like what my brain understands as a lugged 
steel road bike you could ride all day with not-too-crazy loads. My 
reference is Romulus, Rambouillet and Roadini with slightly longer 
chainstays and a dropped toptube. 

Which of course also makes a great around town bike, all Rivs do! 

On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 4:31:32 PM UTC-7 Chris Halasz wrote:

> I can't say it rules them all, but I consider my Sam the great in-between 
> bike: Not so off-road as an Appaloosa, not so road-oriented as a Roadeo or 
> Roadini, not so load-bearing as a Bombadil or Atlantis, not so around town 
> as the Cheviot or Platypus - you get it. I don't see it as a compromise so 
> much as it being situated somewhere near the center of the Rivendell 
> evolutionary tree. 
>
> It's my one bike now, after having a Road Standard, Long Low, Bleriot, 
> Bombadil, and Platypus. I don't go to its tire width extreme, staying more 
> in the 35-40mm width range, and only use a rear rack. I'd consider 
> migrating to a Roadini or Roadeo, but someone recently posted those feel a 
> little stiffer in the ride. I like the double top tube as well! 
>
> Cheers, 
>
> Chris 
>
> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 2:04:28 PM UTC-7 alexander...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Conway, I am potentially interested! Would you send me some 
>> pictures/details?
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022, 3:42 PM Conway Bennett  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Alex,
>>>
>>>  I'm in Chicagoland, I have an 88 PBH, and I have a 58 cm first 
>>> generation Quickbeam I am passively selling.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 12:39:19 PM UTC-5 alexander...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Karl, I am in Chicago and PBH is 88. If anyone is local and would be 
 willing to let me try something out I'd be grateful! I also think there is 
 a shop not to far from me that carries them, I've been meaning to go see 
 what they have for a while.

 Rich, I suspect once I get one more will follow! I think the first will 
 likely be something used, so it may just come down to what pops up in my 
 size/budget. But who knows, the orange color of the Appaloosa is calling 
 to 
 me as well, so if they make more that could end up being it as well. That 
 Hillborne looks super fun, love that color and bag setup. Looks very 
 capable for Atlanta's hills and potholes - I grew up there and my family 
 is 
 all still in the city

 On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 12:24:19 PM UTC-5 RichS wrote:

> Alexander,
>
> Welcome to the group! Terrific collection of Rivendells on this 
> thread. 
>
> Not an easy decision to select your first Rivendell. I went through 
> this exercise years ago and landed on a Waterford built Atlantis. There 
> is 
> a common feeling running through Riv owners that says you can't have just 
> one Rivendell. True enough I discovered. A Sam Hillborne followed shortly 
> after acquiring the Atlantis. Others followed: Clem H, Roadeo, and a 
> Taiwan 
> built Homer. All except the Sam have moved on. Pic shows it in commuter 
> mode; it's done everything well for me including brevets. 
>
> My advice is to take your best shot at what you think works for your 
> needs now and dive in. It's likely you won't be disappointed. As a bonus, 
> the customer service rendered by Grant and the crew is outstanding! 
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
> On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 8:29:44 PM UTC-4 
> alexander...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm a new group member but long time Riv fan. I recently came the 
>> closest I've come to actually buying Rivendell, having only recently 
>> reached a point where it has not felt out of reach financially. Anyway, 
>> it 
>> got me wondering - what is the one model you would choose, current or 
>> discontinued, if you could only have one?
>>
>> Alternately, what is your favorite Rivendell you have owned?
>>
>> Asking in part because I am wondering where to start myself - I've 
>> wanted a Hunqapillar for a long time, and recently have become a bit 
>> obsessed with the Quickbeam as well - but every model seems great in its 
>> own way. Mostly just curious what you all find yourself riding the most 
>> though!
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Ryan]

Well  your stolen Riv is a beautiful blue; I bet you can hardly wait for 
its replacement. Hopefully a secure spot for it too. I don't even lock mine 
up in my garage; they're in my somewhat messy bedroom...if thieves want 'em 
, they'll have to kill me first...(a little dark humor)

Lots of other wonderful Rivendells on this thread; lots of fun. It's 
surprising and reassuring that the brand has remained so durable because I 
think the bike business for a niche company is a tough one...but the recent 
presales experience suggests that the bikes are flying out of Riv HQ. Which 
is awesome..and Leah Peterson is a killer salesperson, no?

On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 2:33:12 PM UTC-5 cz...@sonic.net wrote:

> ...forgot a subtle difference - the new custom has hand carved lugs. Mark 
> gave me a set of Roadeo lugs and I marked them up for Nobilette to work 
> some magic on.
>
> Corwin
>
> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 11:56:40 AM UTC-7 Corwin Zechar wrote:
>
>> Hi Ryan -
>>
>> Pictures you say? I have no pictures of the new custom yet. But I do have 
>> a few pictures of the original. If you don't look too closely, you can see 
>> my new custom in these pictures. Coincidentally, the new custom will be the 
>> same color as the original. Mark Nobilette originally sent a threaded fork 
>> (a fork for threadless headset was spec'ed), and the fork got painted 
>> before anyone realized the error. Instead of getting cranky about the 
>> faux-pas, I seized an opportunity for a back-up fork. Mark and I agreed to 
>> split the cost of a new fork. So, when the time came to specify the color 
>> for Joe Bell, I pulled out the threaded fork (still it's box after 13 
>> years) and shot a photo.
>>
>> The new custom will differ from the old in the following ways:
>>
>> 1) Albastache bars instead of drops.
>> 2) Onyx hubs instead of the Chris King and Schmidt dynohub.
>> 3) A custom covered Fizik Aliante saddle by Mick Peele embossed with the 
>> Rivendell logo instead of the Berthoud and red Fizik.
>> 4) 1x SRAM drivetrain with R2C bar end shifters instead of the 2x Shimano 
>> utilizing downtube shifters
>> 5) Tektro CX 8.4 V-brakes instead of the R539s.
>>
>> Check out photos of my original custom here 
>> .
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Corwin
>>
>> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 4:58:32 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> Well, Corwin,I hope you'll post pictures of this lovely bike once you 
>>> get it...long wait for customs but they're worth the wait. It's a bummer 
>>> that your first one was stolen and I hope you had good insurance to ease 
>>> some of the pain. 
>>>
>>> 3 Rivendells and 1 93 X0-1 which was my gateway drug
>>>
>>> 1998 26" all-rounder - Sherwood Forest green
>>> 2001 Curt Goodrich custom road - Harvest Gold (like some of the earlier 
>>> Clems)
>>> 2016 Mark Nobilette custom mixte 
>>>
>>> Probably either the all-rounder or road if I was forced to pick. Since I 
>>> like riding my old 70's PX10 as a singlespeed so much I probably would have 
>>> liked to own a Quickbeam or SimpleOne...but not really into acquiring more 
>>> bikes at this stage of the game
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 1:15:36 AM UTC-5 cz...@sonic.net wrote:
>>>
 My answer is much like Joe Bernard's. I would choose my custom. Either 
 the first one (stolen April 2021) or the second one - currently at Joe 
 Bell's awaiting paint. My frame (especially the first one) is/was much 
 like 
 a Roadeo. So much so, that Mark suggested a Roadeo instead of a custom. I 
 decided against it based on a preference for custom paint from Joe Bell 
 and 
 the decals associated with the custom.

 This time around, the replacement custom is a carbon copy except for 
 cantilever posts for Tektro short-pull V-brakes. Same color even. And now 
 I 
 also have a Roadeo at Joe Bell's waiting for paint.

 Regards,

 Corwin
 On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 12:27:08 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

> Oh, how I am loving this thread. JJ’s wife takes the cake with her 
> Wilbury/Glorius pair. Love it, love it. See? It’s a perfectly good idea 
> to 
> have two of the same bike, and she knows it too! I am so enjoying 
> everyone’s photos and descriptions of what they like about their 
> Rivendells, keep them coming. 
>
> My vote - big surprise - goes to the elegant Rivendell Platypus as 
> well. There is no downside to a Platypus. I could not get enough of my 
> raspberry Platy so I searched until I found another Platy frame and then 
> built that one up to haul. Never be without your Platypus, that’s my 
> motto! 
> I find it a great comfort to have a 2nd Platypus; I used to have one 
> bike, 
> a Betty Foy, and had a recurring nightmare that it got stolen. My 
> subconscious was so distressed over the loss of the bike that by the end 
> of 
> the dream I would 

Re: [RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Leah Peterson]

Toshi, I don’t think I knew you had a Cheviot! I think this is where I badger 
you for a photo. 

Like Rich says, many of us end up with more than one Rivendell. It likely seems 
unimaginable to you now, but chances are, you’ll want another. I remember the 
sticker shock of buying my Betty Foy; I swore it was all I’d ever need and I’d 
die with that bike. Just look at my now, yikes.

Alexander, if you want to try out a the Rivs, come to the Grand Rapids 
Rivendell Ride we’re putting on this October. I expect a good turnout (we had 
10 at our first ride here in Kalamazoo) and it’s only a 2 hr 45 min drive from 
Chicago. Could be worth it!



> On Aug 12, 2022, at 7:05 PM, Toshi Takeuchi  wrote:
> 
> 
> The one bike probably depends upon which uses you are straddling.  I tend to 
> be on the road/touring and road/light off-trail use mix, so my one bike would 
> probably be my A Homer Hilson (AHH)/Sam HIllborne bike.  (I have the AHH, but 
> am lucky enough not to need to choose one bike.)  (If I were strictly 
> road/club riding, then I would go with the Roadeo/Roadini). 
> 
> My other do-almost everything bike is my Cheviot, which I use for 
> commuting/light touring/light off trail (only no fast road rides)--Platypus 
> would be the current production equivalent.
> 
> So, 1 bike: AHH, 2 bikes: Roadeo/Cheviot (It's always fun to think about bike 
> N and N+1 :-)
> 
> Welcome to the group.
> 
> Toshi in Oakland
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Re: [RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Alexander Chalmers]

Jason - thank you so much for the offer! I'd love to try it some time -
that's a beautiful bike. My riding sounds similar to yours (though no kids
yet!). I do have a cross bike that I use for most road riding i do as well
though, which is why I'm leaning towards something less road-ish like an
Appaloosa or Hunq. Feels like there might be too much overlap otherwise,
though when the CX bike is aluminum and carbon there's probably not too
much danger of that.

Karl - thank you, I'm sure I'll find the right one! Really blown away by
the group so far. Good to know about the wheels, I will keep it in mind if
I do end up with the Quickbeam!

On Sat, Aug 13, 2022, 6:57 PM Karl Worley  wrote:

> This is one of the many reasons I love this list! Alexander, I hope you
> find your Rivendell! Let me know if you end up with the Quickbeam. I
> believe I still have a brand new set of wheels for one.
>
> Karl
> Nash, TN
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 13, 2022, at 6:46 PM, Jason  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hi Alexander,
>
> I’m also new-ish to Riv, having joined this list about a year back and
> having gotten my first Riv, a 2015 Sam Hillborne, last November. The bike
> has been everything I hoped it would be - comfortable, beautiful,
> dependable, and capable. My riding is 90% as a commuter (around 10 miles
> each way). Other rides are with my little ones in tow, or on mixed terrain
> local trails (Salt Creek Trail and DPRT). Sam’s been great for all this
> stuff. I’ll probably end up exploring a Roadeo and Atlantis at some point,
> but it’s hard to imagine a better bike for my main uses. I guess that puts
> me in the Sam camp with Chris and Rich.
>
> My PBH is similar to yours (87.5) and I’m local to Chicago (live in Oak
> Park, work in River North). I’d be happy to let you ride my Sam sometime if
> you’re interested. Just shoot me a PM.
>
>
> Best,
>
> Jason
>
> Oak Park, IL
>
> [image: E8B94AFF-7480-446A-BEAF-A2C0DDCF2FC4.jpeg]
> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 6:31:32 PM UTC-5 Chris Halasz wrote:
>
>> I can't say it rules them all, but I consider my Sam the great in-between
>> bike: Not so off-road as an Appaloosa, not so road-oriented as a Roadeo or
>> Roadini, not so load-bearing as a Bombadil or Atlantis, not so around town
>> as the Cheviot or Platypus - you get it. I don't see it as a compromise so
>> much as it being situated somewhere near the center of the Rivendell
>> evolutionary tree.
>>
>> It's my one bike now, after having a Road Standard, Long Low, Bleriot,
>> Bombadil, and Platypus. I don't go to its tire width extreme, staying more
>> in the 35-40mm width range, and only use a rear rack. I'd consider
>> migrating to a Roadini or Roadeo, but someone recently posted those feel a
>> little stiffer in the ride. I like the double top tube as well!
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 2:04:28 PM UTC-7 alexander...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Conway, I am potentially interested! Would you send me some
>>> pictures/details?
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022, 3:42 PM Conway Bennett 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Alex,

  I'm in Chicagoland, I have an 88 PBH, and I have a 58 cm first
 generation Quickbeam I am passively selling.

 On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 12:39:19 PM UTC-5
 alexander...@gmail.com wrote:

> Karl, I am in Chicago and PBH is 88. If anyone is local and would be
> willing to let me try something out I'd be grateful! I also think there is
> a shop not to far from me that carries them, I've been meaning to go see
> what they have for a while.
>
> Rich, I suspect once I get one more will follow! I think the first
> will likely be something used, so it may just come down to what pops up in
> my size/budget. But who knows, the orange color of the Appaloosa is 
> calling
> to me as well, so if they make more that could end up being it as well.
> That Hillborne looks super fun, love that color and bag setup. Looks very
> capable for Atlanta's hills and potholes - I grew up there and my family 
> is
> all still in the city
>
> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 12:24:19 PM UTC-5 RichS wrote:
>
>> Alexander,
>>
>> Welcome to the group! Terrific collection of Rivendells on this
>> thread.
>>
>> Not an easy decision to select your first Rivendell. I went through
>> this exercise years ago and landed on a Waterford built Atlantis. There 
>> is
>> a common feeling running through Riv owners that says you can't have just
>> one Rivendell. True enough I discovered. A Sam Hillborne followed shortly
>> after acquiring the Atlantis. Others followed: Clem H, Roadeo, and a 
>> Taiwan
>> built Homer. All except the Sam have moved on. Pic shows it in commuter
>> mode; it's done everything well for me including brevets.
>>
>> My advice is to take your best shot at what you think works for your
>> needs now and dive in. It's likely you won't be 

Re: [RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Karl Worley]

This is one of the many reasons I love this list! Alexander, I hope you find your Rivendell! Let me know if you end up with the Quickbeam. I believe I still have a brand new set of wheels for one. KarlNash, TNSent from my iPhoneOn Aug 13, 2022, at 6:46 PM, Jason  wrote:Hi Alexander,I’m also new-ish to Riv, having joined this list about a year back and having gotten my first Riv, a 2015 Sam Hillborne, last November. The bike has been everything I hoped it would be - comfortable, beautiful, dependable, and capable. My riding is 90% as a commuter (around 10 miles each way). Other rides are with my little ones in tow, or on mixed terrain local trails (Salt Creek Trail and DPRT). Sam’s been great for all this stuff. I’ll probably end up exploring a Roadeo and Atlantis at some point, but it’s hard to imagine a better bike for my main uses. I guess that puts me in the Sam camp with Chris and Rich.My PBH is similar to yours (87.5) and I’m local to Chicago (live in Oak Park, work in River North). I’d be happy to let you ride my Sam sometime if you’re interested. Just shoot me a PM. Best,JasonOak Park, ILOn Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 6:31:32 PM UTC-5 Chris Halasz wrote:I can't say it rules them all, but I consider my Sam the great in-between bike: Not so off-road as an Appaloosa, not so road-oriented as a Roadeo or Roadini, not so load-bearing as a Bombadil or Atlantis, not so around town as the Cheviot or Platypus - you get it. I don't see it as a compromise so much as it being situated somewhere near the center of the Rivendell evolutionary tree. It's my one bike now, after having a Road Standard, Long Low, Bleriot, Bombadil, and Platypus. I don't go to its tire width extreme, staying more in the 35-40mm width range, and only use a rear rack. I'd consider migrating to a Roadini or Roadeo, but someone recently posted those feel a little stiffer in the ride. I like the double top tube as well! Cheers, Chris On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 2:04:28 PM UTC-7 alexander...@gmail.com wrote:Conway, I am potentially interested! Would you send me some pictures/details?On Sat, Aug 13, 2022, 3:42 PM Conway Bennett  wrote:Alex, I'm in Chicagoland, I have an 88 PBH, and I have a 58 cm first generation Quickbeam I am passively selling.On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 12:39:19 PM UTC-5 alexander...@gmail.com wrote:Karl, I am in Chicago and PBH is 88. If anyone is local and would be willing to let me try something out I'd be grateful! I also think there is a shop not to far from me that carries them, I've been meaning to go see what they have for a while.Rich, I suspect once I get one more will follow! I think the first will likely be something used, so it may just come down to what pops up in my size/budget. But who knows, the orange color of the Appaloosa is calling to me as well, so if they make more that could end up being it as well. That Hillborne looks super fun, love that color and bag setup. Looks very capable for Atlanta's hills and potholes - I grew up there and my family is all still in the cityOn Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 12:24:19 PM UTC-5 RichS wrote:Alexander,Welcome to the group! Terrific collection of Rivendells on this thread. Not an easy decision to select your first Rivendell. I went through this exercise years ago and landed on a Waterford built Atlantis. There is a common feeling running through Riv owners that says you can't have just one Rivendell. True enough I discovered. A Sam Hillborne followed shortly after acquiring the Atlantis. Others followed: Clem H, Roadeo, and a Taiwan built Homer. All except the Sam have moved on. Pic shows it in commuter mode; it's done everything well for me including brevets. My advice is to take your best shot at what you think works for your needs now and dive in. It's likely you won't be disappointed. As a bonus, the customer service rendered by Grant and the crew is outstanding! Best,Rich in ATLOn Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 8:29:44 PM UTC-4 alexander...@gmail.com wrote:Hi all,I'm a new group member but long time Riv fan. I recently came the closest I've come to actually buying Rivendell, having only recently reached a point where it has not felt out of reach financially. Anyway, it got me wondering - what is the one model you would choose, current or discontinued, if you could only have one?Alternately, what is your favorite Rivendell you have owned?Asking in part because I am wondering where to start myself - I've wanted a Hunqapillar for a long time, and recently have become a bit obsessed with the Quickbeam as well - but every model seems great in its own way. Mostly just curious what you all find yourself riding the most though!



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Re: [RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Chris Halasz]

I can't say it rules them all, but I consider my Sam the great in-between 
bike: Not so off-road as an Appaloosa, not so road-oriented as a Roadeo or 
Roadini, not so load-bearing as a Bombadil or Atlantis, not so around town 
as the Cheviot or Platypus - you get it. I don't see it as a compromise so 
much as it being situated somewhere near the center of the Rivendell 
evolutionary tree. 

It's my one bike now, after having a Road Standard, Long Low, Bleriot, 
Bombadil, and Platypus. I don't go to its tire width extreme, staying more 
in the 35-40mm width range, and only use a rear rack. I'd consider 
migrating to a Roadini or Roadeo, but someone recently posted those feel a 
little stiffer in the ride. I like the double top tube as well! 

Cheers, 

Chris 

On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 2:04:28 PM UTC-7 alexander...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Conway, I am potentially interested! Would you send me some 
> pictures/details?
>
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022, 3:42 PM Conway Bennett  
> wrote:
>
>> Alex,
>>
>>  I'm in Chicagoland, I have an 88 PBH, and I have a 58 cm first 
>> generation Quickbeam I am passively selling.
>>
>> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 12:39:19 PM UTC-5 alexander...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Karl, I am in Chicago and PBH is 88. If anyone is local and would be 
>>> willing to let me try something out I'd be grateful! I also think there is 
>>> a shop not to far from me that carries them, I've been meaning to go see 
>>> what they have for a while.
>>>
>>> Rich, I suspect once I get one more will follow! I think the first will 
>>> likely be something used, so it may just come down to what pops up in my 
>>> size/budget. But who knows, the orange color of the Appaloosa is calling to 
>>> me as well, so if they make more that could end up being it as well. That 
>>> Hillborne looks super fun, love that color and bag setup. Looks very 
>>> capable for Atlanta's hills and potholes - I grew up there and my family is 
>>> all still in the city
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 12:24:19 PM UTC-5 RichS wrote:
>>>
 Alexander,

 Welcome to the group! Terrific collection of Rivendells on this thread. 

 Not an easy decision to select your first Rivendell. I went through 
 this exercise years ago and landed on a Waterford built Atlantis. There is 
 a common feeling running through Riv owners that says you can't have just 
 one Rivendell. True enough I discovered. A Sam Hillborne followed shortly 
 after acquiring the Atlantis. Others followed: Clem H, Roadeo, and a 
 Taiwan 
 built Homer. All except the Sam have moved on. Pic shows it in commuter 
 mode; it's done everything well for me including brevets. 

 My advice is to take your best shot at what you think works for your 
 needs now and dive in. It's likely you won't be disappointed. As a bonus, 
 the customer service rendered by Grant and the crew is outstanding! 

 Best,
 Rich in ATL

 On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 8:29:44 PM UTC-4 alexander...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm a new group member but long time Riv fan. I recently came the 
> closest I've come to actually buying Rivendell, having only recently 
> reached a point where it has not felt out of reach financially. Anyway, 
> it 
> got me wondering - what is the one model you would choose, current or 
> discontinued, if you could only have one?
>
> Alternately, what is your favorite Rivendell you have owned?
>
> Asking in part because I am wondering where to start myself - I've 
> wanted a Hunqapillar for a long time, and recently have become a bit 
> obsessed with the Quickbeam as well - but every model seems great in its 
> own way. Mostly just curious what you all find yourself riding the most 
> though!
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Alexander Chalmers]

Conway, I am potentially interested! Would you send me some
pictures/details?

On Sat, Aug 13, 2022, 3:42 PM Conway Bennett 
wrote:

> Alex,
>
>  I'm in Chicagoland, I have an 88 PBH, and I have a 58 cm first generation
> Quickbeam I am passively selling.
>
> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 12:39:19 PM UTC-5 alexander...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Karl, I am in Chicago and PBH is 88. If anyone is local and would be
>> willing to let me try something out I'd be grateful! I also think there is
>> a shop not to far from me that carries them, I've been meaning to go see
>> what they have for a while.
>>
>> Rich, I suspect once I get one more will follow! I think the first will
>> likely be something used, so it may just come down to what pops up in my
>> size/budget. But who knows, the orange color of the Appaloosa is calling to
>> me as well, so if they make more that could end up being it as well. That
>> Hillborne looks super fun, love that color and bag setup. Looks very
>> capable for Atlanta's hills and potholes - I grew up there and my family is
>> all still in the city
>>
>> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 12:24:19 PM UTC-5 RichS wrote:
>>
>>> Alexander,
>>>
>>> Welcome to the group! Terrific collection of Rivendells on this thread.
>>>
>>> Not an easy decision to select your first Rivendell. I went through this
>>> exercise years ago and landed on a Waterford built Atlantis. There is a
>>> common feeling running through Riv owners that says you can't have just one
>>> Rivendell. True enough I discovered. A Sam Hillborne followed shortly after
>>> acquiring the Atlantis. Others followed: Clem H, Roadeo, and a Taiwan built
>>> Homer. All except the Sam have moved on. Pic shows it in commuter mode;
>>> it's done everything well for me including brevets.
>>>
>>> My advice is to take your best shot at what you think works for your
>>> needs now and dive in. It's likely you won't be disappointed. As a bonus,
>>> the customer service rendered by Grant and the crew is outstanding!
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Rich in ATL
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 8:29:44 PM UTC-4 alexander...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi all,

 I'm a new group member but long time Riv fan. I recently came the
 closest I've come to actually buying Rivendell, having only recently
 reached a point where it has not felt out of reach financially. Anyway, it
 got me wondering - what is the one model you would choose, current or
 discontinued, if you could only have one?

 Alternately, what is your favorite Rivendell you have owned?

 Asking in part because I am wondering where to start myself - I've
 wanted a Hunqapillar for a long time, and recently have become a bit
 obsessed with the Quickbeam as well - but every model seems great in its
 own way. Mostly just curious what you all find yourself riding the most
 though!

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[RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Conway Bennett]

Alex,

 I'm in Chicagoland, I have an 88 PBH, and I have a 58 cm first generation 
Quickbeam I am passively selling.

On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 12:39:19 PM UTC-5 alexander...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Karl, I am in Chicago and PBH is 88. If anyone is local and would be 
> willing to let me try something out I'd be grateful! I also think there is 
> a shop not to far from me that carries them, I've been meaning to go see 
> what they have for a while.
>
> Rich, I suspect once I get one more will follow! I think the first will 
> likely be something used, so it may just come down to what pops up in my 
> size/budget. But who knows, the orange color of the Appaloosa is calling to 
> me as well, so if they make more that could end up being it as well. That 
> Hillborne looks super fun, love that color and bag setup. Looks very 
> capable for Atlanta's hills and potholes - I grew up there and my family is 
> all still in the city
>
> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 12:24:19 PM UTC-5 RichS wrote:
>
>> Alexander,
>>
>> Welcome to the group! Terrific collection of Rivendells on this thread. 
>>
>> Not an easy decision to select your first Rivendell. I went through this 
>> exercise years ago and landed on a Waterford built Atlantis. There is a 
>> common feeling running through Riv owners that says you can't have just one 
>> Rivendell. True enough I discovered. A Sam Hillborne followed shortly after 
>> acquiring the Atlantis. Others followed: Clem H, Roadeo, and a Taiwan built 
>> Homer. All except the Sam have moved on. Pic shows it in commuter mode; 
>> it's done everything well for me including brevets. 
>>
>> My advice is to take your best shot at what you think works for your 
>> needs now and dive in. It's likely you won't be disappointed. As a bonus, 
>> the customer service rendered by Grant and the crew is outstanding! 
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>>
>> On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 8:29:44 PM UTC-4 alexander...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm a new group member but long time Riv fan. I recently came the 
>>> closest I've come to actually buying Rivendell, having only recently 
>>> reached a point where it has not felt out of reach financially. Anyway, it 
>>> got me wondering - what is the one model you would choose, current or 
>>> discontinued, if you could only have one?
>>>
>>> Alternately, what is your favorite Rivendell you have owned?
>>>
>>> Asking in part because I am wondering where to start myself - I've 
>>> wanted a Hunqapillar for a long time, and recently have become a bit 
>>> obsessed with the Quickbeam as well - but every model seems great in its 
>>> own way. Mostly just curious what you all find yourself riding the most 
>>> though!
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Corwin Zechar]

...forgot a subtle difference - the new custom has hand carved lugs. Mark 
gave me a set of Roadeo lugs and I marked them up for Nobilette to work 
some magic on.

Corwin

On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 11:56:40 AM UTC-7 Corwin Zechar wrote:

> Hi Ryan -
>
> Pictures you say? I have no pictures of the new custom yet. But I do have 
> a few pictures of the original. If you don't look too closely, you can see 
> my new custom in these pictures. Coincidentally, the new custom will be the 
> same color as the original. Mark Nobilette originally sent a threaded fork 
> (a fork for threadless headset was spec'ed), and the fork got painted 
> before anyone realized the error. Instead of getting cranky about the 
> faux-pas, I seized an opportunity for a back-up fork. Mark and I agreed to 
> split the cost of a new fork. So, when the time came to specify the color 
> for Joe Bell, I pulled out the threaded fork (still it's box after 13 
> years) and shot a photo.
>
> The new custom will differ from the old in the following ways:
>
> 1) Albastache bars instead of drops.
> 2) Onyx hubs instead of the Chris King and Schmidt dynohub.
> 3) A custom covered Fizik Aliante saddle by Mick Peele embossed with the 
> Rivendell logo instead of the Berthoud and red Fizik.
> 4) 1x SRAM drivetrain with R2C bar end shifters instead of the 2x Shimano 
> utilizing downtube shifters
> 5) Tektro CX 8.4 V-brakes instead of the R539s.
>
> Check out photos of my original custom here 
> .
>
> Regards,
>
> Corwin
>
> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 4:58:32 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>
>> Well, Corwin,I hope you'll post pictures of this lovely bike once you get 
>> it...long wait for customs but they're worth the wait. It's a bummer that 
>> your first one was stolen and I hope you had good insurance to ease some of 
>> the pain. 
>>
>> 3 Rivendells and 1 93 X0-1 which was my gateway drug
>>
>> 1998 26" all-rounder - Sherwood Forest green
>> 2001 Curt Goodrich custom road - Harvest Gold (like some of the earlier 
>> Clems)
>> 2016 Mark Nobilette custom mixte 
>>
>> Probably either the all-rounder or road if I was forced to pick. Since I 
>> like riding my old 70's PX10 as a singlespeed so much I probably would have 
>> liked to own a Quickbeam or SimpleOne...but not really into acquiring more 
>> bikes at this stage of the game
>>
>> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 1:15:36 AM UTC-5 cz...@sonic.net wrote:
>>
>>> My answer is much like Joe Bernard's. I would choose my custom. Either 
>>> the first one (stolen April 2021) or the second one - currently at Joe 
>>> Bell's awaiting paint. My frame (especially the first one) is/was much like 
>>> a Roadeo. So much so, that Mark suggested a Roadeo instead of a custom. I 
>>> decided against it based on a preference for custom paint from Joe Bell and 
>>> the decals associated with the custom.
>>>
>>> This time around, the replacement custom is a carbon copy except for 
>>> cantilever posts for Tektro short-pull V-brakes. Same color even. And now I 
>>> also have a Roadeo at Joe Bell's waiting for paint.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Corwin
>>> On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 12:27:08 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Oh, how I am loving this thread. JJ’s wife takes the cake with her 
 Wilbury/Glorius pair. Love it, love it. See? It’s a perfectly good idea to 
 have two of the same bike, and she knows it too! I am so enjoying 
 everyone’s photos and descriptions of what they like about their 
 Rivendells, keep them coming. 

 My vote - big surprise - goes to the elegant Rivendell Platypus as 
 well. There is no downside to a Platypus. I could not get enough of my 
 raspberry Platy so I searched until I found another Platy frame and then 
 built that one up to haul. Never be without your Platypus, that’s my 
 motto! 
 I find it a great comfort to have a 2nd Platypus; I used to have one bike, 
 a Betty Foy, and had a recurring nightmare that it got stolen. My 
 subconscious was so distressed over the loss of the bike that by the end 
 of 
 the dream I would always miraculously find a spare Betty Foy frame in a 
 box 
 in my garage, this making it all ok.

 I love the Rivendell mixtes; Rivendell puts the best of what they are 
 into their mixte line, I have always thought. And like the product page 
 says, all Rivendells are beautiful, but the Platypus is the *most* 
 beautiful Rivendell. Not that it suffers practicality on account of its 
 looks - it is dead useful and supremely comfortable. I use mine for club 
 rides, errand-running, shopping, and pleasure rides. Smart AND beautiful. 
 That’s why it’s my favorite.
 On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 2:04:55 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Yes, Wilbury/Glorius-Betty Foy/Yves Gomez-Cheviot-Platypus. We got 
> here from there. 
>
> On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 9:49:15 AM UTC-7 

Re: [RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[R Shannon]

Alexander,

Thanks for the compliment. The Sam is a really good bike. When the black
and cream color scheme was introduced on the Sams I gave serious thought to
getting one and having a two Sam family. Didn’t happen but after seeing one
in the wild it was tempting!

The orange paint on the Appaloosa is a very nice color. Super comfortable
bike. One of my riding friends has one and did a month long solo tour from
Atlanta to the Florida Keys and back. No flats or other issues.
Navigates potholes and hills with aplomb:-)

Best,
Rich in ATL

On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 2:38 PM, Roberta  wrote:

> How do you ride— touring, long distance club rides, commuting, errands,
> mountain rides?  These bikes can do multiple duty.
>
> I ride almost exclusively on roads and MUPs for  just for fun and health,
> and commuting . Yet my first Riv was an Appaloosa and I loved that bike for
> three years. I got an a Homer hilsen for a second location. Sold the
> Appaloosa  to get platypus . I could be giddiously happy with any of
> those.  My favorite is the AHoner Hilsen but if I had to pick one for the
> rest of my life it would be Platy. I love the step thru.
> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 1:39:19 PM UTC-4 alexander...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Karl, I am in Chicago and PBH is 88. If anyone is local and would be
>> willing to let me try something out I'd be grateful! I also think there is
>> a shop not to far from me that carries them, I've been meaning to go see
>> what they have for a while.
>>
>> Rich, I suspect once I get one more will follow! I think the first will
>> likely be something used, so it may just come down to what pops up in my
>> size/budget. But who knows, the orange color of the Appaloosa is calling to
>> me as well, so if they make more that could end up being it as well. That
>> Hillborne looks super fun, love that color and bag setup. Looks very
>> capable for Atlanta's hills and potholes - I grew up there and my family is
>> all still in the city
>>
>> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 12:24:19 PM UTC-5 RichS wrote:
>>
>>> Alexander,
>>>
>>> Welcome to the group! Terrific collection of Rivendells on this thread.
>>>
>>> Not an easy decision to select your first Rivendell. I went through this
>>> exercise years ago and landed on a Waterford built Atlantis. There is a
>>> common feeling running through Riv owners that says you can't have just one
>>> Rivendell. True enough I discovered. A Sam Hillborne followed shortly after
>>> acquiring the Atlantis. Others followed: Clem H, Roadeo, and a Taiwan built
>>> Homer. All except the Sam have moved on. Pic shows it in commuter mode;
>>> it's done everything well for me including brevets.
>>>
>>> My advice is to take your best shot at what you think works for your
>>> needs now and dive in. It's likely you won't be disappointed. As a bonus,
>>> the customer service rendered by Grant and the crew is outstanding!
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Rich in ATL
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 8:29:44 PM UTC-4 alexander...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi all,

 I'm a new group member but long time Riv fan. I recently came the
 closest I've come to actually buying Rivendell, having only recently
 reached a point where it has not felt out of reach financially. Anyway, it
 got me wondering - what is the one model you would choose, current or
 discontinued, if you could only have one?

 Alternately, what is your favorite Rivendell you have owned?

 Asking in part because I am wondering where to start myself - I've
 wanted a Hunqapillar for a long time, and recently have become a bit
 obsessed with the Quickbeam as well - but every model seems great in its
 own way. Mostly just curious what you all find yourself riding the most
 though!

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Re: [RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Corwin Zechar]

Hi Ryan -

Pictures you say? I have no pictures of the new custom yet. But I do have a 
few pictures of the original. If you don't look too closely, you can see my 
new custom in these pictures. Coincidentally, the new custom will be the 
same color as the original. Mark Nobilette originally sent a threaded fork 
(a fork for threadless headset was spec'ed), and the fork got painted 
before anyone realized the error. Instead of getting cranky about the 
faux-pas, I seized an opportunity for a back-up fork. Mark and I agreed to 
split the cost of a new fork. So, when the time came to specify the color 
for Joe Bell, I pulled out the threaded fork (still it's box after 13 
years) and shot a photo.

The new custom will differ from the old in the following ways:

1) Albastache bars instead of drops.
2) Onyx hubs instead of the Chris King and Schmidt dynohub.
3) A custom covered Fizik Aliante saddle by Mick Peele embossed with the 
Rivendell logo instead of the Berthoud and red Fizik.
4) 1x SRAM drivetrain with R2C bar end shifters instead of the 2x Shimano 
utilizing downtube shifters
5) Tektro CX 8.4 V-brakes instead of the R539s.

Check out photos of my original custom here 
.

Regards,

Corwin

On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 4:58:32 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:

> Well, Corwin,I hope you'll post pictures of this lovely bike once you get 
> it...long wait for customs but they're worth the wait. It's a bummer that 
> your first one was stolen and I hope you had good insurance to ease some of 
> the pain. 
>
> 3 Rivendells and 1 93 X0-1 which was my gateway drug
>
> 1998 26" all-rounder - Sherwood Forest green
> 2001 Curt Goodrich custom road - Harvest Gold (like some of the earlier 
> Clems)
> 2016 Mark Nobilette custom mixte 
>
> Probably either the all-rounder or road if I was forced to pick. Since I 
> like riding my old 70's PX10 as a singlespeed so much I probably would have 
> liked to own a Quickbeam or SimpleOne...but not really into acquiring more 
> bikes at this stage of the game
>
> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 1:15:36 AM UTC-5 cz...@sonic.net wrote:
>
>> My answer is much like Joe Bernard's. I would choose my custom. Either 
>> the first one (stolen April 2021) or the second one - currently at Joe 
>> Bell's awaiting paint. My frame (especially the first one) is/was much like 
>> a Roadeo. So much so, that Mark suggested a Roadeo instead of a custom. I 
>> decided against it based on a preference for custom paint from Joe Bell and 
>> the decals associated with the custom.
>>
>> This time around, the replacement custom is a carbon copy except for 
>> cantilever posts for Tektro short-pull V-brakes. Same color even. And now I 
>> also have a Roadeo at Joe Bell's waiting for paint.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Corwin
>> On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 12:27:08 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, how I am loving this thread. JJ’s wife takes the cake with her 
>>> Wilbury/Glorius pair. Love it, love it. See? It’s a perfectly good idea to 
>>> have two of the same bike, and she knows it too! I am so enjoying 
>>> everyone’s photos and descriptions of what they like about their 
>>> Rivendells, keep them coming. 
>>>
>>> My vote - big surprise - goes to the elegant Rivendell Platypus as well. 
>>> There is no downside to a Platypus. I could not get enough of my raspberry 
>>> Platy so I searched until I found another Platy frame and then built that 
>>> one up to haul. Never be without your Platypus, that’s my motto! I find it 
>>> a great comfort to have a 2nd Platypus; I used to have one bike, a Betty 
>>> Foy, and had a recurring nightmare that it got stolen. My subconscious was 
>>> so distressed over the loss of the bike that by the end of the dream I 
>>> would always miraculously find a spare Betty Foy frame in a box in my 
>>> garage, this making it all ok.
>>>
>>> I love the Rivendell mixtes; Rivendell puts the best of what they are 
>>> into their mixte line, I have always thought. And like the product page 
>>> says, all Rivendells are beautiful, but the Platypus is the *most* 
>>> beautiful Rivendell. Not that it suffers practicality on account of its 
>>> looks - it is dead useful and supremely comfortable. I use mine for club 
>>> rides, errand-running, shopping, and pleasure rides. Smart AND beautiful. 
>>> That’s why it’s my favorite.
>>> On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 2:04:55 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Yes, Wilbury/Glorius-Betty Foy/Yves Gomez-Cheviot-Platypus. We got here 
 from there. 

 On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 9:49:15 AM UTC-7 alexander...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Love that Hunqapillar! I've never heard of the Wilburt/Glorius but 
> looks nice - the raw metal is awesome. Looks like the Platypus may be 
> similar, albeit with a longer wheelbase?
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 11:42 AM J J  wrote:
>
>> I'm with Joel in that I prefer shorter-wheelbase, shorter-chain stay 
>> 

[RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Roberta]

How do you ride— touring, long distance club rides, commuting, errands, 
mountain rides?  These bikes can do multiple duty. 

I ride almost exclusively on roads and MUPs for  just for fun and health, 
and commuting . Yet my first Riv was an Appaloosa and I loved that bike for 
three years. I got an a Homer hilsen for a second location. Sold the 
Appaloosa  to get platypus . I could be giddiously happy with any of those. 
 My favorite is the AHoner Hilsen but if I had to pick one for the rest of 
my life it would be Platy. I love the step thru.
On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 1:39:19 PM UTC-4 alexander...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Karl, I am in Chicago and PBH is 88. If anyone is local and would be 
> willing to let me try something out I'd be grateful! I also think there is 
> a shop not to far from me that carries them, I've been meaning to go see 
> what they have for a while.
>
> Rich, I suspect once I get one more will follow! I think the first will 
> likely be something used, so it may just come down to what pops up in my 
> size/budget. But who knows, the orange color of the Appaloosa is calling to 
> me as well, so if they make more that could end up being it as well. That 
> Hillborne looks super fun, love that color and bag setup. Looks very 
> capable for Atlanta's hills and potholes - I grew up there and my family is 
> all still in the city
>
> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 12:24:19 PM UTC-5 RichS wrote:
>
>> Alexander,
>>
>> Welcome to the group! Terrific collection of Rivendells on this thread. 
>>
>> Not an easy decision to select your first Rivendell. I went through this 
>> exercise years ago and landed on a Waterford built Atlantis. There is a 
>> common feeling running through Riv owners that says you can't have just one 
>> Rivendell. True enough I discovered. A Sam Hillborne followed shortly after 
>> acquiring the Atlantis. Others followed: Clem H, Roadeo, and a Taiwan built 
>> Homer. All except the Sam have moved on. Pic shows it in commuter mode; 
>> it's done everything well for me including brevets. 
>>
>> My advice is to take your best shot at what you think works for your 
>> needs now and dive in. It's likely you won't be disappointed. As a bonus, 
>> the customer service rendered by Grant and the crew is outstanding! 
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>>
>> On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 8:29:44 PM UTC-4 alexander...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm a new group member but long time Riv fan. I recently came the 
>>> closest I've come to actually buying Rivendell, having only recently 
>>> reached a point where it has not felt out of reach financially. Anyway, it 
>>> got me wondering - what is the one model you would choose, current or 
>>> discontinued, if you could only have one?
>>>
>>> Alternately, what is your favorite Rivendell you have owned?
>>>
>>> Asking in part because I am wondering where to start myself - I've 
>>> wanted a Hunqapillar for a long time, and recently have become a bit 
>>> obsessed with the Quickbeam as well - but every model seems great in its 
>>> own way. Mostly just curious what you all find yourself riding the most 
>>> though!
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Alexander Chalmers]

Karl, I am in Chicago and PBH is 88. If anyone is local and would be 
willing to let me try something out I'd be grateful! I also think there is 
a shop not to far from me that carries them, I've been meaning to go see 
what they have for a while.

Rich, I suspect once I get one more will follow! I think the first will 
likely be something used, so it may just come down to what pops up in my 
size/budget. But who knows, the orange color of the Appaloosa is calling to 
me as well, so if they make more that could end up being it as well. That 
Hillborne looks super fun, love that color and bag setup. Looks very 
capable for Atlanta's hills and potholes - I grew up there and my family is 
all still in the city

On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 12:24:19 PM UTC-5 RichS wrote:

> Alexander,
>
> Welcome to the group! Terrific collection of Rivendells on this thread. 
>
> Not an easy decision to select your first Rivendell. I went through this 
> exercise years ago and landed on a Waterford built Atlantis. There is a 
> common feeling running through Riv owners that says you can't have just one 
> Rivendell. True enough I discovered. A Sam Hillborne followed shortly after 
> acquiring the Atlantis. Others followed: Clem H, Roadeo, and a Taiwan built 
> Homer. All except the Sam have moved on. Pic shows it in commuter mode; 
> it's done everything well for me including brevets. 
>
> My advice is to take your best shot at what you think works for your needs 
> now and dive in. It's likely you won't be disappointed. As a bonus, the 
> customer service rendered by Grant and the crew is outstanding! 
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
> On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 8:29:44 PM UTC-4 alexander...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm a new group member but long time Riv fan. I recently came the closest 
>> I've come to actually buying Rivendell, having only recently reached a 
>> point where it has not felt out of reach financially. Anyway, it got me 
>> wondering - what is the one model you would choose, current or 
>> discontinued, if you could only have one?
>>
>> Alternately, what is your favorite Rivendell you have owned?
>>
>> Asking in part because I am wondering where to start myself - I've wanted 
>> a Hunqapillar for a long time, and recently have become a bit obsessed with 
>> the Quickbeam as well - but every model seems great in its own way. Mostly 
>> just curious what you all find yourself riding the most though!
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[RichS]

Olivier,

Magic indeed if you can make your Atlantis levitate! Never could accomplish 
it with mine LOL!

Best,
Rich in ATL

On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 11:26:47 AM UTC-4 Olivier Chételat wrote:

> 59 Atlantis for life!
> It's truly magical. I'm lucky to own a Cheviot, Betty Foy, 64 Toyo 
> Atlantis. I sold my Hunqapillar last year and test rode every model 
> produced from 2010. 
> But that 59 Atlantis 
>
> Oli in SF
>
> [image: Image 7-1-20 at 6.47 PM.jpg][image: 49551373227_ab22993674_k.jpg]
>
> On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 8:12:01 AM UTC-7 Matt Beecher wrote:
>
>> I've ridden several, but the Saluki is my favorite.
>>
>> Models that I have tried: Toyo Atlantis, Waterford Atlantis, Taiwan 
>> Atlantis, Waterford Road Standard, Taiwan AHH, Quickbeam, & custom 
>> singlespeed. 
>>
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[RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Karl]

Alexander,

I have always found myself coming back to a Quickbeam even though I don’t 
own one now. My Saluki will be with me for a while. It rides much like the 
Quickbeam. Where are you located and what is your PBH? I bet there are some 
kind people on the list that will let you try out some fun bicycles!

Karl
Nashville, TN

On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 7:29:44 PM UTC-5 alexander...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm a new group member but long time Riv fan. I recently came the closest 
> I've come to actually buying Rivendell, having only recently reached a 
> point where it has not felt out of reach financially. Anyway, it got me 
> wondering - what is the one model you would choose, current or 
> discontinued, if you could only have one?
>
> Alternately, what is your favorite Rivendell you have owned?
>
> Asking in part because I am wondering where to start myself - I've wanted 
> a Hunqapillar for a long time, and recently have become a bit obsessed with 
> the Quickbeam as well - but every model seems great in its own way. Mostly 
> just curious what you all find yourself riding the most though!
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Bob]

Owned one Riv, a 2014 Homer. I sold it to fund a custom Bantam. Love the 
Bantam, and wouldn't want to be without it, but I sure miss the Homer. It 
appears I'm not alone in my regret at missing out on a Hunq. Someday, one 
of you lovely people will decide to sell their 650B 53cm or 56cm Hunq, and 
I will simultaneously have the money to buy it.

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On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 7:47:18 AM UTC-6 captaincon...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Last run of Hunqapillars designed for 650b is the bike I will never 
> sell[image: 
> IMG_20220511_084953_1.jpg].  My wife's Roscoe Bubbaloosa mountain mixte 
> is great too.
>
> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 6:58:32 AM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:
>
>> Well, Corwin,I hope you'll post pictures of this lovely bike once you get 
>> it...long wait for customs but they're worth the wait. It's a bummer that 
>> your first one was stolen and I hope you had good insurance to ease some of 
>> the pain. 
>>
>> 3 Rivendells and 1 93 X0-1 which was my gateway drug
>>
>> 1998 26" all-rounder - Sherwood Forest green
>> 2001 Curt Goodrich custom road - Harvest Gold (like some of the earlier 
>> Clems)
>> 2016 Mark Nobilette custom mixte 
>>
>> Probably either the all-rounder or road if I was forced to pick. Since I 
>> like riding my old 70's PX10 as a singlespeed so much I probably would have 
>> liked to own a Quickbeam or SimpleOne...but not really into acquiring more 
>> bikes at this stage of the game
>>
>> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 1:15:36 AM UTC-5 cz...@sonic.net wrote:
>>
>>> My answer is much like Joe Bernard's. I would choose my custom. Either 
>>> the first one (stolen April 2021) or the second one - currently at Joe 
>>> Bell's awaiting paint. My frame (especially the first one) is/was much like 
>>> a Roadeo. So much so, that Mark suggested a Roadeo instead of a custom. I 
>>> decided against it based on a preference for custom paint from Joe Bell and 
>>> the decals associated with the custom.
>>>
>>> This time around, the replacement custom is a carbon copy except for 
>>> cantilever posts for Tektro short-pull V-brakes. Same color even. And now I 
>>> also have a Roadeo at Joe Bell's waiting for paint.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Corwin
>>> On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 12:27:08 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Oh, how I am loving this thread. JJ’s wife takes the cake with her 
 Wilbury/Glorius pair. Love it, love it. See? It’s a perfectly good idea to 
 have two of the same bike, and she knows it too! I am so enjoying 
 everyone’s photos and descriptions of what they like about their 
 Rivendells, keep them coming. 

 My vote - big surprise - goes to the elegant Rivendell Platypus as 
 well. There is no downside to a Platypus. I could not get enough of my 
 raspberry Platy so I searched until I found another Platy frame and then 
 built that one up to haul. Never be without your Platypus, that’s my 
 motto! 
 I find it a great comfort to have a 2nd Platypus; I used to have one bike, 
 a Betty Foy, and had a recurring nightmare that it got stolen. My 
 subconscious was so distressed over the loss of the bike that by the end 
 of 
 the dream I would always miraculously find a spare Betty Foy frame in a 
 box 
 in my garage, this making it all ok.

 I love the Rivendell mixtes; Rivendell puts the best of what they are 
 into their mixte line, I have always thought. And like the product page 
 says, all Rivendells are beautiful, but the Platypus is the *most* 
 beautiful Rivendell. Not that it suffers practicality on account of its 
 looks - it is dead useful and supremely comfortable. I use mine for club 
 rides, errand-running, shopping, and pleasure rides. Smart AND beautiful. 
 That’s why it’s my favorite.
 On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 2:04:55 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Yes, Wilbury/Glorius-Betty Foy/Yves Gomez-Cheviot-Platypus. We got 
> here from there. 
>
> On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 9:49:15 AM UTC-7 alexander...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Love that Hunqapillar! I've never heard of the Wilburt/Glorius but 
>> looks nice - the raw metal is awesome. Looks like the Platypus may be 
>> similar, albeit with a longer wheelbase?
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 11:42 AM J J  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm with Joel in that I prefer shorter-wheelbase, shorter-chain stay 
>>> Rivendell models, though *shorter* is relative. I favor fully 
>>> lugged models, though it makes sense for Rivendell to have more 
>>> accessible 
>>> offerings (*accessible* is also relative).
>>>
>>> For me it's the Hunqapillar all the way. It excels at everything I 
>>> do with it, whether unloaded and tossing it around on skinny (haha) 42s 
>>> or 
>>> hauling 75 pounds of stuff rolling on 55s. It doesn't break a sweat and 
>>> always feels incredibly stable and ready for more. 
>>>
>>> For 

Re: [RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Ryan]

Well, Corwin,I hope you'll post pictures of this lovely bike once you get 
it...long wait for customs but they're worth the wait. It's a bummer that 
your first one was stolen and I hope you had good insurance to ease some of 
the pain. 

3 Rivendells and 1 93 X0-1 which was my gateway drug

1998 26" all-rounder - Sherwood Forest green
2001 Curt Goodrich custom road - Harvest Gold (like some of the earlier 
Clems)
2016 Mark Nobilette custom mixte 

Probably either the all-rounder or road if I was forced to pick. Since I 
like riding my old 70's PX10 as a singlespeed so much I probably would have 
liked to own a Quickbeam or SimpleOne...but not really into acquiring more 
bikes at this stage of the game

On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 1:15:36 AM UTC-5 cz...@sonic.net wrote:

> My answer is much like Joe Bernard's. I would choose my custom. Either the 
> first one (stolen April 2021) or the second one - currently at Joe Bell's 
> awaiting paint. My frame (especially the first one) is/was much like a 
> Roadeo. So much so, that Mark suggested a Roadeo instead of a custom. I 
> decided against it based on a preference for custom paint from Joe Bell and 
> the decals associated with the custom.
>
> This time around, the replacement custom is a carbon copy except for 
> cantilever posts for Tektro short-pull V-brakes. Same color even. And now I 
> also have a Roadeo at Joe Bell's waiting for paint.
>
> Regards,
>
> Corwin
> On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 12:27:08 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Oh, how I am loving this thread. JJ’s wife takes the cake with her 
>> Wilbury/Glorius pair. Love it, love it. See? It’s a perfectly good idea to 
>> have two of the same bike, and she knows it too! I am so enjoying 
>> everyone’s photos and descriptions of what they like about their 
>> Rivendells, keep them coming. 
>>
>> My vote - big surprise - goes to the elegant Rivendell Platypus as well. 
>> There is no downside to a Platypus. I could not get enough of my raspberry 
>> Platy so I searched until I found another Platy frame and then built that 
>> one up to haul. Never be without your Platypus, that’s my motto! I find it 
>> a great comfort to have a 2nd Platypus; I used to have one bike, a Betty 
>> Foy, and had a recurring nightmare that it got stolen. My subconscious was 
>> so distressed over the loss of the bike that by the end of the dream I 
>> would always miraculously find a spare Betty Foy frame in a box in my 
>> garage, this making it all ok.
>>
>> I love the Rivendell mixtes; Rivendell puts the best of what they are 
>> into their mixte line, I have always thought. And like the product page 
>> says, all Rivendells are beautiful, but the Platypus is the *most* 
>> beautiful Rivendell. Not that it suffers practicality on account of its 
>> looks - it is dead useful and supremely comfortable. I use mine for club 
>> rides, errand-running, shopping, and pleasure rides. Smart AND beautiful. 
>> That’s why it’s my favorite.
>> On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 2:04:55 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, Wilbury/Glorius-Betty Foy/Yves Gomez-Cheviot-Platypus. We got here 
>>> from there. 
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 9:49:15 AM UTC-7 alexander...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Love that Hunqapillar! I've never heard of the Wilburt/Glorius but 
 looks nice - the raw metal is awesome. Looks like the Platypus may be 
 similar, albeit with a longer wheelbase?

 On Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 11:42 AM J J  wrote:

> I'm with Joel in that I prefer shorter-wheelbase, shorter-chain stay 
> Rivendell models, though *shorter* is relative. I favor fully lugged 
> models, though it makes sense for Rivendell to have more accessible 
> offerings (*accessible* is also relative).
>
> For me it's the Hunqapillar all the way. It excels at everything I do 
> with it, whether unloaded and tossing it around on skinny (haha) 42s or 
> hauling 75 pounds of stuff rolling on 55s. It doesn't break a sweat and 
> always feels incredibly stable and ready for more. 
>
> For my partner it's the Wilbury/Glorius, from the era preceding super 
> long wheelbase step-through models. (Her previous bike had a much longer 
> wheelbase, which she found cumbersome and clunky after she road the 
> Wilbury.) She loved the Wilbury ride and lovely construction so much that 
> she got a companion Glorius in raw metal. 
>
> Leah is not the only one to double down on a step-through she loves!! 
> :)
>
> [image: Hunqapillar 1.jpeg]
> [image: Wilbury 1.jpeg]
> [image: Glorius 1.jpeg]
>
> On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 11:58:03 AM UTC-4 greenteadrinkers wrote:
>
>> I have a Sam Hillborne and a SimpleOne, if I did it all over again, 
>> I'd go for a Hunqapillar, but, I'd totally be happy with a Appaloosa. I 
>> also own a Trek 620, Tanglefoot Moonshiner, and a Kogswell PR II.
>>
>> [image: Hillborne.png]

Re: [RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Corwin Zechar]

My answer is much like Joe Bernard's. I would choose my custom. Either the 
first one (stolen April 2021) or the second one - currently at Joe Bell's 
awaiting paint. My frame (especially the first one) is/was much like a 
Roadeo. So much so, that Mark suggested a Roadeo instead of a custom. I 
decided against it based on a preference for custom paint from Joe Bell and 
the decals associated with the custom.

This time around, the replacement custom is a carbon copy except for 
cantilever posts for Tektro short-pull V-brakes. Same color even. And now I 
also have a Roadeo at Joe Bell's waiting for paint.

Regards,

Corwin
On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 12:27:08 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Oh, how I am loving this thread. JJ’s wife takes the cake with her 
> Wilbury/Glorius pair. Love it, love it. See? It’s a perfectly good idea to 
> have two of the same bike, and she knows it too! I am so enjoying 
> everyone’s photos and descriptions of what they like about their 
> Rivendells, keep them coming. 
>
> My vote - big surprise - goes to the elegant Rivendell Platypus as well. 
> There is no downside to a Platypus. I could not get enough of my raspberry 
> Platy so I searched until I found another Platy frame and then built that 
> one up to haul. Never be without your Platypus, that’s my motto! I find it 
> a great comfort to have a 2nd Platypus; I used to have one bike, a Betty 
> Foy, and had a recurring nightmare that it got stolen. My subconscious was 
> so distressed over the loss of the bike that by the end of the dream I 
> would always miraculously find a spare Betty Foy frame in a box in my 
> garage, this making it all ok.
>
> I love the Rivendell mixtes; Rivendell puts the best of what they are into 
> their mixte line, I have always thought. And like the product page says, 
> all Rivendells are beautiful, but the Platypus is the *most* beautiful 
> Rivendell. Not that it suffers practicality on account of its looks - it is 
> dead useful and supremely comfortable. I use mine for club rides, 
> errand-running, shopping, and pleasure rides. Smart AND beautiful. That’s 
> why it’s my favorite.
> On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 2:04:55 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Yes, Wilbury/Glorius-Betty Foy/Yves Gomez-Cheviot-Platypus. We got here 
>> from there. 
>>
>> On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 9:49:15 AM UTC-7 alexander...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Love that Hunqapillar! I've never heard of the Wilburt/Glorius but looks 
>>> nice - the raw metal is awesome. Looks like the Platypus may be similar, 
>>> albeit with a longer wheelbase?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 11:42 AM J J  wrote:
>>>
 I'm with Joel in that I prefer shorter-wheelbase, shorter-chain stay 
 Rivendell models, though *shorter* is relative. I favor fully lugged 
 models, though it makes sense for Rivendell to have more accessible 
 offerings (*accessible* is also relative).

 For me it's the Hunqapillar all the way. It excels at everything I do 
 with it, whether unloaded and tossing it around on skinny (haha) 42s or 
 hauling 75 pounds of stuff rolling on 55s. It doesn't break a sweat and 
 always feels incredibly stable and ready for more. 

 For my partner it's the Wilbury/Glorius, from the era preceding super 
 long wheelbase step-through models. (Her previous bike had a much longer 
 wheelbase, which she found cumbersome and clunky after she road the 
 Wilbury.) She loved the Wilbury ride and lovely construction so much that 
 she got a companion Glorius in raw metal. 

 Leah is not the only one to double down on a step-through she loves!! :)

 [image: Hunqapillar 1.jpeg]
 [image: Wilbury 1.jpeg]
 [image: Glorius 1.jpeg]

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> I'd go for a Hunqapillar, but, I'd totally be happy with a Appaloosa. I 
> also own a Trek 620, Tanglefoot Moonshiner, and a Kogswell PR II.
>
> [image: Hillborne.png]
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[RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Nick Payne]

So far as Rivendell models go, I have:

A Riv custom frame from late last century
A Romulus
A Bleriot
An Appaloosa

If I could only keep one, it would probably be the Bleriot, as the closest 
thing to an all-round bike.

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Re: [RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Steven Sweedler]

I had 4 Rivs, a Riv Road custom, a 700c All Rounder, a Hunquapillar, and a
Atlantis, and still I would love to find a 26” All Rounder. Grant convinced
me that 26” whees were lighter and stronger, and have never been able to
shake it. Steve

On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 7:05 PM Toshi Takeuchi  wrote:

> The one bike probably depends upon which uses you are straddling.  I tend
> to be on the road/touring and road/light off-trail use mix, so my one bike
> would probably be my A Homer Hilson (AHH)/Sam HIllborne bike.  (I have the
> AHH, but am lucky enough not to need to choose one bike.)  (If I were
> strictly road/club riding, then I would go with the Roadeo/Roadini).
>
> My other do-almost everything bike is my Cheviot, which I use for
> commuting/light touring/light off trail (only no fast road rides)--Platypus
> would be the current production equivalent.
>
> So, 1 bike: AHH, 2 bikes: Roadeo/Cheviot (It's always fun to think about
> bike N and N+1 :-)
>
> Welcome to the group.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[EricP]

Depends on your planned use. So far have owned - 
Toyo Atlantis (too small, but nice ride anyway)
Green Sam Hillborne (sidepulls)
SimpleOne 
Blue Sam Hillborne double top tube (sidepulls)
59 Clem Smith Jr. L

Still own the last two. But since getting the Clem it gets most of the 
riding time. Mainly use the SH when riding where I need to put the bike on 
a vehicle rack. Also the Hillborne needs new tires and I haven't taken the 
time to go to a store to buy a set of Marathon Racers. Or even regular 
Marathons.

The Clem is just fun to ride. Now, it could be because I am very overweight 
the heavier bike doesn't seem slower. Or maybe it's the wider tires that 
make it more fun on our local paths.

However, when I was commuting to work a couple times a month, the Hillborne 
was the ticket. And I used to do some longer rides on it. So there is 
nothing wrong with the bike. It's quite nice. Just that the Clem is even 
nicer. At least for me and where I am as a cyclist.

Also think that the Clem is probably triggering memories of my first "good" 
bike, a 1984 Specalized Stumpjumper with the long chainstays. Raced, 
commuted and just rode that one quite a lot until it was stolen.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN 

On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 6:05:28 PM UTC-5 ttoshi wrote:

> The one bike probably depends upon which uses you are straddling.  I tend 
> to be on the road/touring and road/light off-trail use mix, so my one bike 
> would probably be my A Homer Hilson (AHH)/Sam HIllborne bike.  (I have the 
> AHH, but am lucky enough not to need to choose one bike.)  (If I were 
> strictly road/club riding, then I would go with the Roadeo/Roadini). 
>
> My other do-almost everything bike is my Cheviot, which I use for 
> commuting/light touring/light off trail (only no fast road rides)--Platypus 
> would be the current production equivalent.
>
> So, 1 bike: AHH, 2 bikes: Roadeo/Cheviot (It's always fun to think about 
> bike N and N+1 :-)
>
> Welcome to the group.
>
> Toshi in Oakland
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Toshi Takeuchi]

The one bike probably depends upon which uses you are straddling.  I tend
to be on the road/touring and road/light off-trail use mix, so my one bike
would probably be my A Homer Hilson (AHH)/Sam HIllborne bike.  (I have the
AHH, but am lucky enough not to need to choose one bike.)  (If I were
strictly road/club riding, then I would go with the Roadeo/Roadini).

My other do-almost everything bike is my Cheviot, which I use for
commuting/light touring/light off trail (only no fast road rides)--Platypus
would be the current production equivalent.

So, 1 bike: AHH, 2 bikes: Roadeo/Cheviot (It's always fun to think about
bike N and N+1 :-)

Welcome to the group.

Toshi in Oakland

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[RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[J J]

Hahaha. Leah, I think you already took the cake! You having a pair of 
Platypuses has always seemed perfectly reasonable, natural, and sensible. 
Now if I can only find another 58 Hunqapillar I'll be all set. (I suppose 
I'd settle for a Bombadil...)
This thread is great.

On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 4:45:16 PM UTC-4 Edwin W wrote:

> #1 model to choose: the one you have/could easily get. For me that is the 
> Appaloosa which I have now.
> If I were starting all over...
> #1 dream, but I cannot get it right now is the original Atlantis 64cm with 
> one top tube. 
> **Let me know if you are getting rid of one**
> #2 Appaloosa
> #3 Original Hunq
> But they are all so good I do not want to rank them and would be happy 
> with any model from any year.
>
> Edwin 
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[RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Edwin W]

#1 model to choose: the one you have/could easily get. For me that is the 
Appaloosa which I have now.
If I were starting all over...
#1 dream, but I cannot get it right now is the original Atlantis 64cm with 
one top tube. 
**Let me know if you are getting rid of one**
#2 Appaloosa
#3 Original Hunq
But they are all so good I do not want to rank them and would be happy with 
any model from any year.

Edwin 

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Re: [RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Leah Peterson]

Hey, thanks! Yes, I am running Ultradynamico on the raspberry bike. I do like 
them, a lot, actually. Though I hear they wear out quick (maybe 1k miles) when 
you run them tubeless, which I do. 

> On Aug 12, 2022, at 3:40 PM, Alexander Chalmers 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Nice pair of platypuses (platypi?)! 
> 
> Are you running ultradynamico tires? How do you like them? I've been 
> considering some Cavas for my CX bike
> 
>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 2:27 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>  wrote:
>> Oh, how I am loving this thread. JJ’s wife takes the cake with her 
>> Wilbury/Glorius pair. Love it, love it. See? It’s a perfectly good idea to 
>> have two of the same bike, and she knows it too! I am so enjoying everyone’s 
>> photos and descriptions of what they like about their Rivendells, keep them 
>> coming. 
>> 
>> My vote - big surprise - goes to the elegant Rivendell Platypus as well. 
>> There is no downside to a Platypus. I could not get enough of my raspberry 
>> Platy so I searched until I found another Platy frame and then built that 
>> one up to haul. Never be without your Platypus, that’s my motto! I find it a 
>> great comfort to have a 2nd Platypus; I used to have one bike, a Betty Foy, 
>> and had a recurring nightmare that it got stolen. My subconscious was so 
>> distressed over the loss of the bike that by the end of the dream I would 
>> always miraculously find a spare Betty Foy frame in a box in my garage, this 
>> making it all ok.
>> 
>> I love the Rivendell mixtes; Rivendell puts the best of what they are into 
>> their mixte line, I have always thought. And like the product page says, all 
>> Rivendells are beautiful, but the Platypus is the *most* beautiful 
>> Rivendell. Not that it suffers practicality on account of its looks - it is 
>> dead useful and supremely comfortable. I use mine for club rides, 
>> errand-running, shopping, and pleasure rides. Smart AND beautiful. That’s 
>> why it’s my favorite.
>>> On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 2:04:55 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>> Yes, Wilbury/Glorius-Betty Foy/Yves Gomez-Cheviot-Platypus. We got here 
>>> from there. 
>>> 
 On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 9:49:15 AM UTC-7 alexander...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Love that Hunqapillar! I've never heard of the Wilburt/Glorius but looks 
 nice - the raw metal is awesome. Looks like the Platypus may be similar, 
 albeit with a longer wheelbase?
 
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 11:42 AM J J  wrote:
> I'm with Joel in that I prefer shorter-wheelbase, shorter-chain stay 
> Rivendell models, though shorter is relative. I favor fully lugged 
> models, though it makes sense for Rivendell to have more accessible 
> offerings (accessible is also relative).
> 
> For me it's the Hunqapillar all the way. It excels at everything I do 
> with it, whether unloaded and tossing it around on skinny (haha) 42s or 
> hauling 75 pounds of stuff rolling on 55s. It doesn't break a sweat and 
> always feels incredibly stable and ready for more. 
> 
> For my partner it's the Wilbury/Glorius, from the era preceding super 
> long wheelbase step-through models. (Her previous bike had a much longer 
> wheelbase, which she found cumbersome and clunky after she road the 
> Wilbury.) She loved the Wilbury ride and lovely construction so much that 
> she got a companion Glorius in raw metal. 
> 
> Leah is not the only one to double down on a step-through she loves!! :)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>> On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 11:58:03 AM UTC-4 greenteadrinkers wrote:
>>> I have a Sam Hillborne and a SimpleOne, if I did it all over again, I'd 
>>> go for a Hunqapillar, but, I'd totally be happy with a Appaloosa. I 
>>> also own a Trek 620, Tanglefoot Moonshiner, and a Kogswell PR II.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Alexander Chalmers]

Nice pair of platypuses (platypi?)!

Are you running ultradynamico tires? How do you like them? I've been
considering some Cavas for my CX bike

On Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 2:27 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Oh, how I am loving this thread. JJ’s wife takes the cake with her
> Wilbury/Glorius pair. Love it, love it. See? It’s a perfectly good idea to
> have two of the same bike, and she knows it too! I am so enjoying
> everyone’s photos and descriptions of what they like about their
> Rivendells, keep them coming.
>
> My vote - big surprise - goes to the elegant Rivendell Platypus as well.
> There is no downside to a Platypus. I could not get enough of my raspberry
> Platy so I searched until I found another Platy frame and then built that
> one up to haul. Never be without your Platypus, that’s my motto! I find it
> a great comfort to have a 2nd Platypus; I used to have one bike, a Betty
> Foy, and had a recurring nightmare that it got stolen. My subconscious was
> so distressed over the loss of the bike that by the end of the dream I
> would always miraculously find a spare Betty Foy frame in a box in my
> garage, this making it all ok.
>
> I love the Rivendell mixtes; Rivendell puts the best of what they are into
> their mixte line, I have always thought. And like the product page says,
> all Rivendells are beautiful, but the Platypus is the *most* beautiful
> Rivendell. Not that it suffers practicality on account of its looks - it is
> dead useful and supremely comfortable. I use mine for club rides,
> errand-running, shopping, and pleasure rides. Smart AND beautiful. That’s
> why it’s my favorite.
> On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 2:04:55 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Yes, Wilbury/Glorius-Betty Foy/Yves Gomez-Cheviot-Platypus. We got here
>> from there.
>>
>> On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 9:49:15 AM UTC-7 alexander...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Love that Hunqapillar! I've never heard of the Wilburt/Glorius but looks
>>> nice - the raw metal is awesome. Looks like the Platypus may be similar,
>>> albeit with a longer wheelbase?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 11:42 AM J J  wrote:
>>>
 I'm with Joel in that I prefer shorter-wheelbase, shorter-chain stay
 Rivendell models, though *shorter* is relative. I favor fully lugged
 models, though it makes sense for Rivendell to have more accessible
 offerings (*accessible* is also relative).

 For me it's the Hunqapillar all the way. It excels at everything I do
 with it, whether unloaded and tossing it around on skinny (haha) 42s or
 hauling 75 pounds of stuff rolling on 55s. It doesn't break a sweat and
 always feels incredibly stable and ready for more.

 For my partner it's the Wilbury/Glorius, from the era preceding super
 long wheelbase step-through models. (Her previous bike had a much longer
 wheelbase, which she found cumbersome and clunky after she road the
 Wilbury.) She loved the Wilbury ride and lovely construction so much that
 she got a companion Glorius in raw metal.

 Leah is not the only one to double down on a step-through she loves!! :)

 [image: Hunqapillar 1.jpeg]
 [image: Wilbury 1.jpeg]
 [image: Glorius 1.jpeg]

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> I have a Sam Hillborne and a SimpleOne, if I did it all over again,
> I'd go for a Hunqapillar, but, I'd totally be happy with a Appaloosa. I
> also own a Trek 620, Tanglefoot Moonshiner, and a Kogswell PR II.
>
> [image: Hillborne.png]
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Re: [RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Joe Bernard]

Yes, Wilbury/Glorius-Betty Foy/Yves Gomez-Cheviot-Platypus. We got here 
from there. 

On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 9:49:15 AM UTC-7 alexander...@gmail.com wrote:

> Love that Hunqapillar! I've never heard of the Wilburt/Glorius but looks 
> nice - the raw metal is awesome. Looks like the Platypus may be similar, 
> albeit with a longer wheelbase?
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 11:42 AM J J  wrote:
>
>> I'm with Joel in that I prefer shorter-wheelbase, shorter-chain stay 
>> Rivendell models, though *shorter* is relative. I favor fully lugged 
>> models, though it makes sense for Rivendell to have more accessible 
>> offerings (*accessible* is also relative).
>>
>> For me it's the Hunqapillar all the way. It excels at everything I do 
>> with it, whether unloaded and tossing it around on skinny (haha) 42s or 
>> hauling 75 pounds of stuff rolling on 55s. It doesn't break a sweat and 
>> always feels incredibly stable and ready for more. 
>>
>> For my partner it's the Wilbury/Glorius, from the era preceding super 
>> long wheelbase step-through models. (Her previous bike had a much longer 
>> wheelbase, which she found cumbersome and clunky after she road the 
>> Wilbury.) She loved the Wilbury ride and lovely construction so much that 
>> she got a companion Glorius in raw metal. 
>>
>> Leah is not the only one to double down on a step-through she loves!! :)
>>
>> [image: Hunqapillar 1.jpeg]
>> [image: Wilbury 1.jpeg]
>> [image: Glorius 1.jpeg]
>>
>> On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 11:58:03 AM UTC-4 greenteadrinkers wrote:
>>
>>> I have a Sam Hillborne and a SimpleOne, if I did it all over again, I'd 
>>> go for a Hunqapillar, but, I'd totally be happy with a Appaloosa. I also 
>>> own a Trek 620, Tanglefoot Moonshiner, and a Kogswell PR II.
>>>
>>> [image: Hillborne.png]
>>>
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[RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Coal Bee Rye Anne]

Welcome Alexander!

Favorite?  Easy!  65cm Clem Smith, Jr. H-Style - but this is more by 
default as my one and only Rivendell!

But I was once in similar shoes and guess I had gone about 5+ years after 
first discovering Rivendell until finally buying my first and only 
Rivendell in 2016 when they eventually released the XXL Clem in the 65cm 
size.  The first model of theirs that really piqued my interest, however, 
was the SimpleOne but I held off on buying for various reasons at the 
time.  First, I could not yet fathom ever owning or needing more than one 
bike nor ever spending as much on a new bike as I'd eventually spend on the 
Clem.  I was also still trying to make an old and too small frame fit while 
updating worn out parts here and there while increasing ride 
frequency/duration/mileage on weekends.  There's a ton of irony around the 
fact that I likely spent much more on parts swaps and fit experiments on 
various bikes over the years than I'd have spent on a new 62cm SimpleOne 
had I just taken the plunge back in 2010 or 11 or 12 or whenever it was 
when I was most tempted but all those experiences and personal lessons on 
parts swapping and DIY mechanics and articles I'd end up reading would far 
exceed in value the $$$ I spent here or there and made me even more 
informed when I did eventually make the somewhat unexpected and 
opportunistic pre-order once I discovered they were adding a 65cm size to 
the incoming Clem batch.

I now own 4 complete, ready-to-ride bikes but just the one Rivendell.  The 
remaining 3 are each built as different single speeds and all mostly 
obtained opportunistically based on their size and built somewhat with 
inspiration from various SimpleOne/Quickbeam/Countrybike builds.  They were 
not all initially intended to be single speeds but this is how they evolved 
based on a combination of circumstance and my more recent riding 
trends/local terrain.  I now have 3 different build concepts I could easily 
transfer over to a Roaduno (the forthcoming single speed) if I could manage 
to position myself to obtain one whenever they become available.

There are many details I've admired on several other Riv models and I've 
leaned this way and that regarding their leaner road or country vs. burlier 
and more rugged models compared to my actual vs. theoretical usage but one 
thing I've absolutely come to appreciate with my Clem is the rare 
opportunity at my height to be on the small or low side of the fit or PBH 
range for a given size (my 97-ish PBH on the 65cm H which had something 
like a 95-100+ pbh range, iirc.)  The Clem development also hit the nail on 
the head for me with it's more affordable nature (vs. fully lugged models) 
and it's basis/inspiration/early description of sorts as something like an 
answer for those looking to otherwise spruce up or Riv-ify their old, 
vintage MTB's... which is exactly what I was essentially doing at the time 
I first discovered Riv, albeit with a too small 26" wheeled MTB (which I've 
happily just begun to rebuild for the umpteenth time but this time as a 
hand me down dad bike for an in-law and nephew and with the help of my 5 
year old!)

Best of luck and happy riding, wherever this path leads!

Brian Cole
Lawrence NJ

On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 8:29:44 PM UTC-4 alexander...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm a new group member but long time Riv fan. I recently came the closest 
> I've come to actually buying Rivendell, having only recently reached a 
> point where it has not felt out of reach financially. Anyway, it got me 
> wondering - what is the one model you would choose, current or 
> discontinued, if you could only have one?
>
> Alternately, what is your favorite Rivendell you have owned?
>
> Asking in part because I am wondering where to start myself - I've wanted 
> a Hunqapillar for a long time, and recently have become a bit obsessed with 
> the Quickbeam as well - but every model seems great in its own way. Mostly 
> just curious what you all find yourself riding the most though!
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Paul Choi]

Bravo! Great shot of your bike with the city in the background :)

On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 8:26:47 AM UTC-7 Olivier Chételat wrote:

> 59 Atlantis for life!
> It's truly magical. I'm lucky to own a Cheviot, Betty Foy, 64 Toyo 
> Atlantis. I sold my Hunqapillar last year and test rode every model 
> produced from 2010. 
> But that 59 Atlantis 
>
> Oli in SF
>
> [image: Image 7-1-20 at 6.47 PM.jpg][image: 49551373227_ab22993674_k.jpg]
>
> On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 8:12:01 AM UTC-7 Matt Beecher wrote:
>
>> I've ridden several, but the Saluki is my favorite.
>>
>> Models that I have tried: Toyo Atlantis, Waterford Atlantis, Taiwan 
>> Atlantis, Waterford Road Standard, Taiwan AHH, Quickbeam, & custom 
>> singlespeed. 
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Matt Beecher]

I've ridden several, but the Saluki is my favorite.

Models that I have tried: Toyo Atlantis, Waterford Atlantis, Taiwan 
Atlantis, Waterford Road Standard, Taiwan AHH, Quickbeam, & custom 
singlespeed. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[amillhench]

Rivendell has changed so much over the years. When I started admiring their 
bikes they were strong advocates for lugs, brooks, comfort and practicality. 

Any Rivendell I owned would need lugs. I don’t think their tig frames are 
competitively priced compared to their competitors, and they lose the Rivendell 
character. I’ve had long and short chain stayed Rivs and have come to the 
conclusion that I don’t notice any difference. Of course, lugs don’t change the 
ride either, but I sure do admire them every time I see my bike. It’s very cool 
that Riv has been around long enough to have “classic” models. 

I would have to go with a Quickbeam. I miss my Coleman green first gen with 
albatross bars. It just had piles of character and quirk.

Best,

Aaron in El Paso

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[RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

['Joel S' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I still prefer the shorter chains models, a Hillborne would fit the bill 
nicely.  

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wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm a new group member but long time Riv fan. I recently came the closest 
> I've come to actually buying Rivendell, having only recently reached a 
> point where it has not felt out of reach financially. Anyway, it got me 
> wondering - what is the one model you would choose, current or 
> discontinued, if you could only have one?
>
> Alternately, what is your favorite Rivendell you have owned?
>
> Asking in part because I am wondering where to start myself - I've wanted 
> a Hunqapillar for a long time, and recently have become a bit obsessed with 
> the Quickbeam as well - but every model seems great in its own way. Mostly 
> just curious what you all find yourself riding the most though!
>

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[RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[ascpgh]

Welcome Alexander, Rivendell is like a garage party with a band that's a 
more humbling experience with talent, better than a huge show at a big 
forum. 

Back in my shop days Bridgestone was our bread and butter. Grant earned the 
ability to design the US market product and they were so much better riding 
bikes that even an average rider would return smiling after a fifteen 
minute test ride. Not the highest volume bikes, Grant even told us they 
would be the hardest to sell since folks want to believe what they already 
do, even if presented with examples otherwise.

I called Grant several years into Rivendell after Bridgestone when I needed 
a bike more specific for longer rides, farther from home than my RB-1 
(which didn't really fit me-my legs are too long for my height). From the 
Rivendell Reader and catalog I was thinking I needed a custom but he told 
me about the Rambouillet. It was the next "stock" model, stablemate of the 
already in production Atlantis and checked the boxes of my list, adding 
some I hadn't considered. 

I rode my Rambouillet across the country and on every ride I took since 
including some things less than fire trails, having long been an underbiker 
and gone miles on forest service "roads" on bikes not apparent to that use. 
We were riding gravel before its current adherents were born and I used my 
XO-2 and RB-1. Rivendell marketed the model name as the useful, dependable 
sheep that provided much utility to those keeping flocks of them. 

My Rambouillet shines in it's smoothness of ride and predictable handling. 
Much of that is because of how well it fits me, something random other 
riders have noted to me on rides. A the Five Boros ride in NYC my wife 
tired of how frequently folks approached and remarked on my Rambouillet and 
was who pointed out how sour those around us on what she called modern 
bikes looked. The bike continues to be a bike people comment on regardless 
of how expensive proximate modern bikes are.

It's a bike that can be used in many ways that rewards my uses. Sort of 
where the brand and Grant position themselves.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgg
On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 8:29:44 PM UTC-4 alexander...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm a new group member but long time Riv fan. I recently came the closest 
> I've come to actually buying Rivendell, having only recently reached a 
> point where it has not felt out of reach financially. Anyway, it got me 
> wondering - what is the one model you would choose, current or 
> discontinued, if you could only have one?
>
> Alternately, what is your favorite Rivendell you have owned?
>
> Asking in part because I am wondering where to start myself - I've wanted 
> a Hunqapillar for a long time, and recently have become a bit obsessed with 
> the Quickbeam as well - but every model seems great in its own way. Mostly 
> just curious what you all find yourself riding the most though!
>

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[RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Ryan M.]

I have owned the following Rivs:

Canti Sam Hillborne
Toyo built Atlantis
Roadeo
Appaloosa
Frank Jones Sr. 

I always wanted a Hunqapillar but never got around to getting one. lol

Right now I own the Appaloosa and Frank Jones Sr. but only really ride the 
Frank, but that is because my current recreational life is very limited and 
when I do go for a bike ride I just ride the greenway, which is better 
suited to a single speed.  The Appaloosa is the most versatile Riv I have 
owned probably, with the Atlantis coming in second. It's probably the bike 
that makes the most logical sense to keep if I could only choose one...but 
honestly, I would probably keep the Frank over the Appaloosa with my life 
today.


On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 7:29:44 PM UTC-5 alexander...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm a new group member but long time Riv fan. I recently came the closest 
> I've come to actually buying Rivendell, having only recently reached a 
> point where it has not felt out of reach financially. Anyway, it got me 
> wondering - what is the one model you would choose, current or 
> discontinued, if you could only have one?
>
> Alternately, what is your favorite Rivendell you have owned?
>
> Asking in part because I am wondering where to start myself - I've wanted 
> a Hunqapillar for a long time, and recently have become a bit obsessed with 
> the Quickbeam as well - but every model seems great in its own way. Mostly 
> just curious what you all find yourself riding the most though!
>

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