[RBW] Re: Ottolock Initial Reviews???

2018-06-05 Thread christian poppell
I purchased one from the fine folks at Rivendell shortly after I made the 
initial post. Over the last week or so I have used it daily. 

*Things I like (:*

   1. It is light weight!
   2. Seemingly better than a cable lock or a intricately wrapped and tied 
   Johns Irish Strap
   3. I like that it is small and fits into my bag or on the bars.
   4. 30" of lock has been adequate for locking both the rear wheel and 
   frame around typical u-lockable pole shaped objects. When I use a U-lock 
   for the rear wheel, 30" has been more than adequate for locking the front 
   wheel to the frame.

*Things I don't like ): *

   1. Ergonomics. I feel like the button is on the wrong side when pulling 
   the strap through the lock.I feel a little like i have to contort my body 
   to lock the lock, I think this is just from me not being completely 
   familiar with the lock.
   2. The squishy silicon strap doohickey that keeps the lock wrapped on 
   itself. I got rid of it immediately. I just double coil the strap and lock 
   it. 

*Words of caution:*

I did manage to replicate the failure people had where the strap will pull 
through the lock, even after the combination has been changed. I did this 
by inserting the strap with the correct combination then stopping in 
between ratchets. It was repeatable but required some care to achieve. I 
discovered it shortly after locking it onto itself. From that point, I have 
always pull tested the lock before leaving. 

Overall, walking away after locking my bike with the Ottolock does not 
leave me warm and fuzzy like a quality U-lock. However, I feel the security 
of Ottolock does allow for what it is designed for which is quick trip 
inside the store. It should prevent anyone with a pair of bolt cutters or 
snips from quickly grabbing your bike and riding off. 

Thanks everyone for your input!

Christian
Berkeley, CA




On Saturday, June 2, 2018 at 9:49:06 PM UTC-7, John Rinker wrote:
>
> Hey Christian,
>
> I've got a 30" that I've been using for a couple of months now, and I like 
> it just fine. Long enough to wrap around a post, rear wheel and seat tube, 
> and I cinch it up nice a tight (per the instructions). It's super light for 
> a lock and I really only trust it for quick stops. I watched the video 
> posted by tc and cannot relate to the videomaker's experience as my lock 
> seems tight and solid when locked. 
>
> For more heavy-duty security I use an ABUS U-lock mini 40; not as light as 
> the Ottolock, but pretty compact and seemingly bombproof. 
>
> Cheers,
> John
>
> On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 12:29:03 PM UTC-7, christian poppell wrote:
>>
>> Any users of the improved Ottolock out there? I heard the first batch was 
>> comically easy to "pick" the combination lock. They fixed it enough that 
>> Rivendell is now selling them. Anyone pick up the updated lock? Is 30" 
>> enough lock? I keep finding myself without a good locking solution for 
>> grocery and cafe stops. This looks like it could be a good option...
>>
>> Christian
>> Berkeley, CA
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Ottolock Initial Reviews???

2018-06-02 Thread John Rinker
Hey Christian,

I've got a 30" that I've been using for a couple of months now, and I like 
it just fine. Long enough to wrap around a post, rear wheel and seat tube, 
and I cinch it up nice a tight (per the instructions). It's super light for 
a lock and I really only trust it for quick stops. I watched the video 
posted by tc and cannot relate to the videomaker's experience as my lock 
seems tight and solid when locked. 

For more heavy-duty security I use an ABUS U-lock mini 40; not as light as 
the Ottolock, but pretty compact and seemingly bombproof. 

Cheers,
John

On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 12:29:03 PM UTC-7, christian poppell wrote:
>
> Any users of the improved Ottolock out there? I heard the first batch was 
> comically easy to "pick" the combination lock. They fixed it enough that 
> Rivendell is now selling them. Anyone pick up the updated lock? Is 30" 
> enough lock? I keep finding myself without a good locking solution for 
> grocery and cafe stops. This looks like it could be a good option...
>
> Christian
> Berkeley, CA
>

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[RBW] Re: Ottolock Initial Reviews???

2018-06-02 Thread Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles
I like mine! So small and light, perfect for its intend purpose.

We can lock up 2 bikes w/ the 30 no problem.  3 bikes if you pile and don't 
lock to anything.

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[RBW] Re: Ottolock Initial Reviews???

2018-06-01 Thread Ron Mc
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[RBW] Re: Ottolock Initial Reviews???

2018-06-01 Thread Jon BALER
I got one from the kickstarter.  After a while, it started stick when 
unlocking.  They sent me a new one for free, and itb has been working fine.

I wish the dials were bigger and less finicky for my big fingers.

Jon
Ellicott city, MD

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[RBW] Re: Ottolock Initial Reviews???

2018-05-26 Thread Jack K
I bought a 30" Ottolock pretty much as soon as I saw them available 
mailorder. My first one was replaced quickly and easily by Ottolock, 
because the default combo didn't work and it was impossible to set a new 
combo. The replacement has been flawless so far, though I haven't used it a 
ton. Even if it provides only modest security the combination of light 
weight, small size and ease of use makes it a winner in my mind. BTW, for 
me the Ottolock replaced a luggage lock and seat-leash cable combo, which 
is far less secure and more fiddily to use, though lighter.

WRT the linked video ... I do think Ottolock has (or at least had) a QC 
issue and feel for the guy who got 2 apparently defective replacements. I'm 
very unconvinced by his shim pick test though, since he did the test on a 
defective lock where the pawl wasn't engaging the toothed strap. The fact 
that he was able to slide his defective lock open even without the shim 
makes me wonder how difficult we should have expected it to be to slip a 
shim between the unengaged pawl and the toothed strap. I wish he would have 
asked Ottolock to send him a lock they had tested as working properly when 
he asked for a replacement. That's what I did and they were very helpful 
and quick about providing my warranty replacemnent, even paying for all the 
shipping charges. 

-Jack K.

On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 5:25:52 PM UTC-4, tc wrote:
>
> I was going to order one, seems like a great idea and worthwhile lock when 
> they get the bugs out.  But I'm not sold yet for anything longer than a 5 
> min lockup period.
>
> Take a look at this recent video, published last month:  
> https://youtu.be/8EbeBveRgms
>

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[RBW] Re: Ottolock Initial Reviews???

2018-05-25 Thread tc
I was going to order one, seems like a great idea and worthwhile lock when 
they get the bugs out.  But I'm not sold yet for anything longer than a 5 
min lockup period.

Take a look at this recent video, published last month:  
https://youtu.be/8EbeBveRgms

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[RBW] Re: Ottolock Initial Reviews???

2018-05-25 Thread adam leibow
i have a newer one. i got the extra short one just to be ultra-minimal and 
light. this is great for locking up your bike for sub-5min jaunts to the 
liquor store in a nice neighborhood, or supplemental to a fat U lock as a 
front wheel or saddle lock. i just met someone who has one who someone 
tried to cut through and it didnt work (they were unable to cut through it 
quickly). this is a good sign that a bolt cutter is probably not enough, 
but i'd still use caution. 

On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 12:29:03 PM UTC-7, christian poppell wrote:
>
> Any users of the improved Ottolock out there? I heard the first batch was 
> comically easy to "pick" the combination lock. They fixed it enough that 
> Rivendell is now selling them. Anyone pick up the updated lock? Is 30" 
> enough lock? I keep finding myself without a good locking solution for 
> grocery and cafe stops. This looks like it could be a good option...
>
> Christian
> Berkeley, CA
>

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[RBW] Re: Ottolock Initial Reviews???

2018-05-25 Thread T Cal
I use Ottolocks and like them.  I have several, short and long.  Generally 
the short works fine for me with a single bike and locking to a rack or 
thin pole.  Longer for multiple bikes and/or bigger poles.  I don't know 
how easy they are to defeat -- I view them as a theft deterrent, not 
prevention.  I have significantly more substantial locks for use when 
needed.  Even with a good lock, I will often use the Otto to lock a wheel 
or just a second lock and added bit of deterrent.

On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 12:29:03 PM UTC-7, christian poppell wrote:
>
> Any users of the improved Ottolock out there? I heard the first batch was 
> comically easy to "pick" the combination lock. They fixed it enough that 
> Rivendell is now selling them. Anyone pick up the updated lock? Is 30" 
> enough lock? I keep finding myself without a good locking solution for 
> grocery and cafe stops. This looks like it could be a good option...
>
> Christian
> Berkeley, CA
>

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