[RBW] Re: Quickbeam: A Three Year Retrospective

[Ryan Fleming]

I could tell you the chainring/rear cog combo on my SS PX-10but it's so 
wimpy I'd be too embarrassed :) ...but what I can tell you is that I love 
the silent drivetrain and  in a windy city , it demands more out of me than 
access to gears. ActuallyI admit  it's  36 X 20 combo 700c wheels. My old 
knees prefer spinning to grinding so it works OK for me. Quickbeams are in 
 the category of shoulda bought one of those...I've always liked them. But 
my old Peugeot is pretty sweet too.

On Tuesday, December 20, 2016 at 11:59:28 PM UTC-6, ctifusion wrote:
>
> Deacon, 
>
> Thanks for both posts. Sitting at home on a cold day reading about riding 
> when I should have just suited up and went out! 
>
> This post inspires me to write up a similar retrospective on my Quickbeam. 
> I've had mine for 10 years and it is the most beautiful, fun, and inspiring 
> bike I've ever owned. Always makes me happy. This year I put those Barlow 
> Pass tires on  it and was transformed again by the ride. 
>
> I hate to admit after all the interesting gear discussion that, being in 
> Indianapolis, I just run mine single speed. Can't tell you the ratio, just 
> a little harder than it should be so I can cruise the flats here. 
>
> Brynnar

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam: A Three Year Retrospective

[Deacon Patrick]

Brynnar,

Perfect!

With abandon,
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On Tuesday, December 20, 2016 at 10:59:28 PM UTC-7, ctifusion wrote:
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> I hate to admit after all the interesting gear discussion that, being in 
> Indianapolis, I just run mine single speed. 

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam: A Three Year Retrospective

[ctifusion]

Deacon,

Thanks for both posts. Sitting at home on a cold day reading about riding when 
I should have just suited up and went out!

This post inspires me to write up a similar retrospective on my Quickbeam. I've 
had mine for 10 years and it is the most beautiful, fun, and inspiring bike 
I've ever owned. Always makes me happy. This year I put those Barlow Pass tires 
on  it and was transformed again by the ride. 

I hate to admit after all the interesting gear discussion that, being in 
Indianapolis, I just run mine single speed. Can't tell you the ratio, just a 
little harder than it should be so I can cruise the flats here.

Brynnar

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam: A Three Year Retrospective

[Deacon Patrick]

Ha! More thought went into my gear choices that I can to even try to 
remember. Now, I don't really think about them, though I've obviously kept 
my notes (thank you Evernote!) which helps when folks ask me gearing 
questions. However, the experience in riding is No thought goes into 
gearing because I only have two gear choices and I'm either going up or 
down. Until you experience the freedom of that, it is really hard to 
understand. Like you, I was puzzled and intrigued from the outside, until I 
was on the inside. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 10:07:52 AM UTC-7, Daniel D. wrote:
>
> Sometimes my eyes glaze over when I hear singlespeed/fixed gear riders 
> talking about riding usually around the part they talk about being freed 
> from thinking so much:p.   But I keep on checking out that quickbeam for 
> sale in my area... 
>
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam: A Three Year Retrospective

[Patrick Moore]

Me, I think constantly about my ss gearing choices. *Constantly!*

Patrick "good syntax is good thinking" Moore, in eye rolling ABQ, NM.

On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 10:07 AM, Daniel D.  wrote:

> Sometimes my eyes glaze over when I hear singlespeed/fixed gear riders
> talking about riding usually around the part they talk about being freed
> from thinking so much:p.   But I keep on checking out that quickbeam for
> sale in my area...
>
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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam: A Three Year Retrospective

[Daniel D.]

Sometimes my eyes glaze over when I hear singlespeed/fixed gear riders 
talking about riding usually around the part they talk about being freed 
from thinking so much:p.   But I keep on checking out that quickbeam for 
sale in my area... 

>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam: A Three Year Retrospective

[Patrick Moore]

Photos required.

What gear?

On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 2:44 PM, Evan E.  wrote:


> My old Raleigh Competition, converted to single speed, offers similar
> rigor and reward.
>
> Ev
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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam: A Three Year Retrospective

[Evan E.]

Deacon Patrick,

I love this line of yours: "Grant Petersen's Quickbeam is always 
comfortable, never comforting, always challenging, always enlivening. . . " 
Sounds great! My old Raleigh Competition, converted to single speed, offers 
similar rigor and reward.

Evan Elliot
SF, CA


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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam: A Three Year Retrospective

[Patrick Moore]

Of course, your terrain is much more up and down than mine.

On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 2:18 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> No need (for middlin'). Grin.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 2:10:41 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> That's a good spread of gears. Question : why do you use the big ring
>> only with the small cog, and the small ring with big cog only? That 58"
>> gear seems to me to be very useful.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam: A Three Year Retrospective

[Deacon Patrick]

No need (for middlin'). Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 2:10:41 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> That's a good spread of gears. Question : why do you use the big ring only 
> with the small cog, and the small ring with big cog only? That 58" gear 
> seems to me to be very useful.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam: A Three Year Retrospective

[Patrick Moore]

If anyone cares to try a S3X hub, I have one -- 126 mm OL, but will work
fine with a 130 and probably 135 spacing, too -- that I am eager to sell.
32 hole. Inquire within.

Others think differently, but I prefer to use this hub with a freehwheel,
not a fixed cog -- too much lash. I have another with a 17 t freewheel for
the 2003 Riv.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam: A Three Year Retrospective

[Patrick Moore]

That's a good spread of gears. Question : why do you use the big ring only
with the small cog, and the small ring with big cog only? That 58" gear
seems to me to be very useful.


On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 7:37 AM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> Alan,
>
> I have 32/40 front, 16/19 rear. I only run the high (outside) and low
> (inside) combinations. To Patrick of the Moors' question on why Grant went
> with front rather than rear for the difference, I can only speculate that
> dual cogs may not have been readily available at the time? The upshot for
> me is that I can maximize the spread and achieve roughly the same high low
> ratios (with my 22t cog on the flip hub) as a IGH 3-speed, all within the
> range of the 8-tooth spread the rear dropouts allow. My high gear has a
> combined 56t, my low gear has 51, so with a spread of only 5t I have a gear
> inches spread from 40ish to 70ish. Not bad range for a single speed. Grin.
> See Sheldon's gear calculator chart attached.
>
>
> 
>
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 8:26:47 PM UTC-7, alan lavine wrote:
>>
>> Forgot to ask: what size chainrings and cogs do you use?
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 3:06:03 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>>
>>> Photos and drippings of ooze for one of my two favorite bicycles!
>>> http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/quickbeam-sightings/
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> www.OurHolyConception.org
>>> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam: A Three Year Retrospective

[BSWP]

I've had my QuickBean loaded for light camping (EntMoot!) and it rode like 
a champ, from SF Ferry building, up over the bridge, through Marin hills, 
to campsite, and back. It challenges me to be extra fit, and that's a good 
thing, I don't mind at all. It truly is a state of mind one adopts, when 
going out with just one, or maybe two, gears... but many speeds :-)

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam: A Three Year Retrospective

[Matt B.]

I completely agree Patrick. The QB can transform a grown man into a kid on 
a BMX bike in the woods.  40/16 is a great gear for getting around and even 
stretching your legs on longer rides, but when you get to the woods taking 
a few seconds to "digital" shift down to 32/22 or 40/22 puts you right in 
the sweet spot for bumpy roller coaster trails.  


On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 10:26:01 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Ha! There is a sweet-spot which few bikes hit between the simplicity of 
> single speed and the reality that three speeds open up riding on anything 
> that is ridable. For me, the Quickbeam hits that sweet-spot and has invited 
> and challenged and encouraged and coached me to becoming a better, 
> stronger, more flexible rider.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 8:06:35 AM UTC-7, lum gim fong wrote:
>>
>> Single speeds are cool but seems like most people add gears to them.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam: A Three Year Retrospective

[Kai Vierstra]

I used to have the 40x32 up front with a 16x19 in back, and on my 
Brooklyn/Westchester/Brooklyn commute I switched out of 40x16 once, promptly 
switching back. So I ditched the 32 and have an unused 19 on my W.I. Dos 
freewheel. So, in my experience pedaling the Quickbeam around NYC, having too 
many options just complicated things. You'll be surprised what you can do with 
the single speed on a climb, not being able to shift/second guess where you're 
at, just pedaling, purely.
-Kai Vierstra 
Brooklyn NY 

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam: A Three Year Retrospective

[Deacon Patrick]

Ha! There is a sweet-spot which few bikes hit between the simplicity of 
single speed and the reality that three speeds open up riding on anything 
that is ridable. For me, the Quickbeam hits that sweet-spot and has invited 
and challenged and encouraged and coached me to becoming a better, 
stronger, more flexible rider.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 8:06:35 AM UTC-7, lum gim fong wrote:
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> Single speeds are cool but seems like most people add gears to them.

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam: A Three Year Retrospective

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Single speeds are cool but seems like most people add gears to them.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam: A Three Year Retrospective

[Alan Lavine]

Thanks to all for the good info.  I will be using a 126 mm FW wheel,not flip 
flop, and wanted some gear choices while avoiding the usual derailers and 6 spd 
FW. Will probably go with a single chainring and dingle in the back. I don’t 
ride off road so its sufficient to have a mid 60” for the city and climbs, and 
low to mid 70” for go fast.
Thanks again!

Alan
NYC
> On Dec 18, 2016, at 9:37 AM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:
> 
> Alan,
> 
> I have 32/40 front, 16/19 rear. I only run the high (outside) and low 
> (inside) combinations. To Patrick of the Moors' question on why Grant went 
> with front rather than rear for the difference, I can only speculate that 
> dual cogs may not have been readily available at the time? The upshot for me 
> is that I can maximize the spread and achieve roughly the same high low 
> ratios (with my 22t cog on the flip hub) as a IGH 3-speed, all within the 
> range of the 8-tooth spread the rear dropouts allow. My high gear has a 
> combined 56t, my low gear has 51, so with a spread of only 5t I have a gear 
> inches spread from 40ish to 70ish. Not bad range for a single speed. Grin. 
> See Sheldon's gear calculator chart attached.
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> With abandon,
> Patrick
> 
> On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 8:26:47 PM UTC-7, alan lavine wrote:
> Forgot to ask: what size chainrings and cogs do you use?
> 
> Alan
> 
> On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 3:06:03 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
> Photos and drippings of ooze for one of my two favorite bicycles! 
> http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/quickbeam-sightings/ 
>  
> 
> With abandon, 
> Patrick 
> 
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> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org  
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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam: A Three Year Retrospective

[Deacon Patrick]

Alan,

I have 32/40 front, 16/19 rear. I only run the high (outside) and low 
(inside) combinations. To Patrick of the Moors' question on why Grant went 
with front rather than rear for the difference, I can only speculate that 
dual cogs may not have been readily available at the time? The upshot for 
me is that I can maximize the spread and achieve roughly the same high low 
ratios (with my 22t cog on the flip hub) as a IGH 3-speed, all within the 
range of the 8-tooth spread the rear dropouts allow. My high gear has a 
combined 56t, my low gear has 51, so with a spread of only 5t I have a gear 
inches spread from 40ish to 70ish. Not bad range for a single speed. Grin. 
See Sheldon's gear calculator chart attached.




With abandon,
Patrick

On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 8:26:47 PM UTC-7, alan lavine wrote:
>
> Forgot to ask: what size chainrings and cogs do you use?
>
> Alan
>
> On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 3:06:03 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> Photos and drippings of ooze for one of my two favorite bicycles! 
>> http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/quickbeam-sightings/ 
>>
>> With abandon, 
>> Patrick 
>>
>> www.OurHolyConception.org 
>> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org 
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam: A Three Year Retrospective

[Patrick Moore]

Alan: let me draw you in to the turgid mysteries of ss/fixed gear riding.

Really, it's not that complicated. First, you get a lot more difference in
gear ratio from each tooth difference in your rear cogs than you do with
each tooth difference in your chainrings, so it makes sense to do you
"shifting" at the rear.

Can anyone say why Riv set up the Quickbeam with 2 chainrings instead of 2
cogs? It doesn't make sense to me.

Second, a wee bit of chain deflection isn't going to matter -- this from
someone who obsessively sets up his derailleur gears so that his cruising
gears *always * have a straight chain. This is especially true with modern
bushingless chains that are meant to be run askew.

As long as the chain line from ring to cog isn't off by a huge amount,
you'll be fine, as long as your cog isn't a Hyperglide cog, which is ramped
and so forth to encourage the chain to derail when the chain is at an
angle. The Dingle uses square-cut teeth.

The gap between 2 teeth on a Dingle is very small, which is why you need to
use a 9 speed chain -- an 8 speed rubs slightly on the adjacent cog.

As for axle movement, sure, you can adjust the chainrings up as you adjust
the cogs down -- eg, if you shift from a 17 t cog to a 19, you can also
swap from a 44 to a 42; but that just complicates things to no purpose,
IMO. If your bike has long axle slots, either long horizontals or "track
ends" (distinction made to placate Sheldon's ghost), you'll find that very
little for-aft axle movement accommodates a great number of teeth. The
figure quoted is 1/8" of fore/aft axle movement for each change in cog
teeth, so that a 4 tooth jump would move the axle only 1/2".

[There is a complication: if, when choosing your desired gear, that is,
your desired combination of ring and cog you find your axle near one end of
the dropout, your usable axle movement may be far less than this
theoretical rule. This is particularly true if your axle slots are short,
as are those on my Riv gofast -- they used their at-the-time standard
"short horizontal" dropouts.

This means that when I selected my desired gear -- 46/15 or 49/16 or 52/17,
all more or less 76" -- the axle was always *either* too close to the back
end of the slot, or, if I removed a link -- 1/2" --, almost falling out of
the dropouts. So your choice of gear, the length of your stays, and the
type of dropouts, may severely limit your gearing choices despite this 1/8"
to 1 tooth rule.

What I did: since a very tiny axle movement takes up quite a bit of chain
slack, that meant that I could take 2-3 mm off the back of the dropouts
with a big rattail file and end up with a far more usable setup -- the very
slightly elongated dropouts can now take a 15 t cog with axle at the back
of the slots, and a 21 to cog with the axle just barely in place at the
front of the slots.]

If you have track ends or long horizontals, you have plenty of freedom.
Just set up your chainline for a single cog, and don't worry about
deflection if you use a 2-cog system. I once asked Phil about a custom
fixed hub that would accommodate 3 standard track cogs; too expensive, but
it would work fine with modern chains.

Note too: if your frame has track ends and these are not angled like
horizontal dropouts but simply, well, horizontal, then if you move the
wheel back or forth a great distance, your rear brake pads may not line up
with the rim's brake tracks. I think that the Quickbeam has angled track
ends, and of course all horizontal dropouts that I've seen are angled, so
that in both cases moving the wheel back or forward ought to leave the
brake pads properly on the rim brake tracks. Of course, if you are riding
fixed, you don't need a rear brake.

On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 9:02 PM, Alan Lavine  wrote:

> So I gather that with a single chainring, shifting between the two rear
> cogs is within the tolerance of chain deflection. If I wanted 2 chainrings,
> the difference in tooth count must be the same up front as in the rear, to
> avoid moving the rear axle position in the dropouts….is this correct?  Is
> standard double chainring spacing the same as the rear Dingle spacing?
> This is starting to sound very attractive to me!
>
> Thanks,
> Alan
>
> On Dec 17, 2016, at 10:36 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
> Commuter: 48 X 17/19 Dingle.
>
> Gofast: 46 X 15 cruising, flip side 17.
>
> With 24.75" tires (Elk Passes), I get 70 and 63 for the commuter (well, I
> don't commute, but errand bike) and 76" and 67" for the gofast.
>
> Dahon: 50 X 14 = 68", with -- I think; haven't used it - a 16 fixed on the
> fw side.
>
> I do use QRs for the Rivs, but for the folder I use a cut down 15 mm
> wrench.
>
> On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 8:26 PM, alan lavine  wrote:
>
>> Forgot to ask: what size chainrings and cogs do you use?
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 3:06:03 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>>
>>> Photos and drippings of ooze for one of my two 

Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam: A Three Year Retrospective

[Alan Lavine]

So I gather that with a single chainring, shifting between the two rear cogs is 
within the tolerance of chain deflection. If I wanted 2 chainrings, the 
difference in tooth count must be the same up front as in the rear, to avoid 
moving the rear axle position in the dropouts….is this correct?  Is standard 
double chainring spacing the same as the rear Dingle spacing?
This is starting to sound very attractive to me!

Thanks,
Alan
> On Dec 17, 2016, at 10:36 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
> 
> Commuter: 48 X 17/19 Dingle.
> 
> Gofast: 46 X 15 cruising, flip side 17. 
> 
> With 24.75" tires (Elk Passes), I get 70 and 63 for the commuter (well, I 
> don't commute, but errand bike) and 76" and 67" for the gofast. 
> 
> Dahon: 50 X 14 = 68", with -- I think; haven't used it - a 16 fixed on the fw 
> side.
> 
> I do use QRs for the Rivs, but for the folder I use a cut down 15 mm wrench.
> 
> On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 8:26 PM, alan lavine  > wrote:
> Forgot to ask: what size chainrings and cogs do you use?
> 
> Alan
> 
> On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 3:06:03 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
> Photos and drippings of ooze for one of my two favorite bicycles! 
> http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/quickbeam-sightings/ 
>  
> 
> With abandon, 
> Patrick 
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam: A Three Year Retrospective

[Patrick Moore]

Commuter: 48 X 17/19 Dingle.

Gofast: 46 X 15 cruising, flip side 17.

With 24.75" tires (Elk Passes), I get 70 and 63 for the commuter (well, I
don't commute, but errand bike) and 76" and 67" for the gofast.

Dahon: 50 X 14 = 68", with -- I think; haven't used it - a 16 fixed on the
fw side.

I do use QRs for the Rivs, but for the folder I use a cut down 15 mm wrench.

On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 8:26 PM, alan lavine  wrote:

> Forgot to ask: what size chainrings and cogs do you use?
>
> Alan
>
> On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 3:06:03 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> Photos and drippings of ooze for one of my two favorite bicycles!
>> http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/quickbeam-sightings/
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
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>> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam: A Three Year Retrospective

[Patrick Moore]

It's a strong toe. I meant: the short lever is hard to use with the hand,
but using the toe of my shoe, I have no problems with it.

On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 7:49 PM, Alan LaVine  wrote:

> Your toe?!  You must work out a lot.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 17, 2016, at 5:49 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
> I use a 8-speed era XT skewer on my 2003 Riv, and it holds very well. The
> '99 gofast has a classy NOS 7400 something DA skewer. It also holds well.
>
> For that matter, the couple of times I used them on the S3X hub, with
> considerable climbing (= torque), the Sturmey Archer wingnuts also didn't
> slip.
>
> You must use an all steel, internal cam-type QR, though; the external cam
> ones won't hold, particularly if they are made from aluminum.
>
> As to wrenches: I cut about 1/3 or 1/2 off of the open end part of an
> inexpensive 15 mm combo wrench, and use my toe to get the nuts tight and to
> get them loosened for removal. Much easier to carry than a full-length
> combo.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 3:41 PM, alan lavine  wrote:
>
>> Beautiful!  Is the rear wheel bolt on, requiring a wrench to change
>> gears?  Would a QR skewer work?
>> I have aTrek 620 1983 frame getting powder coated and I might try this
>> set-up, but I'm not sure I would wrench to change gears.
>>
>> Alan
>> NYC
>>
>> On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 3:06:03 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>>
>>> Photos and drippings of ooze for one of my two favorite bicycles!
>>> http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/quickbeam-sightings/
>>>
>>> With abandon,
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>>>
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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam: A Three Year Retrospective

[alan lavine]

Forgot to ask: what size chainrings and cogs do you use?

Alan

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>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam: A Three Year Retrospective

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Your toe?!  You must work out a lot.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 17, 2016, at 5:49 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
> 
> I use a 8-speed era XT skewer on my 2003 Riv, and it holds very well. The '99 
> gofast has a classy NOS 7400 something DA skewer. It also holds well.
> 
> For that matter, the couple of times I used them on the S3X hub, with 
> considerable climbing (= torque), the Sturmey Archer wingnuts also didn't 
> slip.
> 
> You must use an all steel, internal cam-type QR, though; the external cam 
> ones won't hold, particularly if they are made from aluminum.
> 
> As to wrenches: I cut about 1/3 or 1/2 off of the open end part of an 
> inexpensive 15 mm combo wrench, and use my toe to get the nuts tight and to 
> get them loosened for removal. Much easier to carry than a full-length combo.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 3:41 PM, alan lavine  wrote:
>> Beautiful!  Is the rear wheel bolt on, requiring a wrench to change gears?  
>> Would a QR skewer work?
>> I have aTrek 620 1983 frame getting powder coated and I might try this 
>> set-up, but I'm not sure I would wrench to change gears.
>> 
>> Alan
>> NYC
>> 
>>> On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 3:06:03 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>> Photos and drippings of ooze for one of my two favorite bicycles! 
>>> http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/quickbeam-sightings/ 
>>> 
>>> With abandon, 
>>> Patrick 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam: A Three Year Retrospective

[Deacon Patrick]

Allen wrench because it's a Paul rear hub. Being leisurely, shifting takes 
a minute, usually at a place I'd stop anyway. No biggie.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 3:41:37 PM UTC-7, alan lavine wrote:
>
> Beautiful!  Is the rear wheel bolt on, requiring a wrench to change gears? 
>  Would a QR skewer work?
> I have aTrek 620 1983 frame getting powder coated and I might try this 
> set-up, but I'm not sure I would wrench to change gears.
>
> Alan
> NYC
>
> On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 3:06:03 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> Photos and drippings of ooze for one of my two favorite bicycles! 
>> http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/quickbeam-sightings/ 
>>
>> With abandon, 
>> Patrick 
>>
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>> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam: A Three Year Retrospective

[Patrick Moore]

I use a 8-speed era XT skewer on my 2003 Riv, and it holds very well. The
'99 gofast has a classy NOS 7400 something DA skewer. It also holds well.

For that matter, the couple of times I used them on the S3X hub, with
considerable climbing (= torque), the Sturmey Archer wingnuts also didn't
slip.

You must use an all steel, internal cam-type QR, though; the external cam
ones won't hold, particularly if they are made from aluminum.

As to wrenches: I cut about 1/3 or 1/2 off of the open end part of an
inexpensive 15 mm combo wrench, and use my toe to get the nuts tight and to
get them loosened for removal. Much easier to carry than a full-length
combo.



On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 3:41 PM, alan lavine  wrote:

> Beautiful!  Is the rear wheel bolt on, requiring a wrench to change
> gears?  Would a QR skewer work?
> I have aTrek 620 1983 frame getting powder coated and I might try this
> set-up, but I'm not sure I would wrench to change gears.
>
> Alan
> NYC
>
> On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 3:06:03 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> Photos and drippings of ooze for one of my two favorite bicycles!
>> http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/quickbeam-sightings/
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam: A Three Year Retrospective

[alan lavine]

Beautiful!  Is the rear wheel bolt on, requiring a wrench to change gears? 
 Would a QR skewer work?
I have aTrek 620 1983 frame getting powder coated and I might try this 
set-up, but I'm not sure I would wrench to change gears.

Alan
NYC

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam: A Three Year Retrospective

[Jim D Massachusetts]

Nice! Thanks  Jim D   Massachusetts

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam: A Three Year Retrospective

[RichS]

Now that's a bike review. Poetic. In the third pic I love the juxtaposition 
of your QB and it's skinny tubes with the tall skinny trees.
Nice to have you back DP!

Regards,
Richard

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam: A Three Year Retrospective

[JohnS]

Wow DP! I love my QB, but I don't think I would ever be able to put it to 
words as you have. Excellent!

JohnS


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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam: A Three Year Retrospective

[ascpgh]

Nice. Sometimes hard to describe riding away from pavement to folks who 
believe a "road" bike is for road use or great punishment and opprobrium 
will ensue.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam: A Three Year Retrospective

[Ryan Fleming]

Nice write-up  and pictures of both your  rivendells

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