[RBW] Re: Rack on Rambouillet

2010-01-24 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Tubus Fly

On Jan 24, 9:10 am, George Strickler chobur...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am contemplating a 10-14 day trip this summer using plastic and
 sleeping in beds.  I would like to use my Rambouillet but I think I
 need to carry a bit more than will go in my handlebar bag which is the
 only bag I've ever used with the bike.  I have another bike set up for
 heavy loads.  I know the Ram is not designed for carrying a lot of
 rear weight but I was thinking that a smallish set of panniers on a
 rear rack would work.  Recommendations for a rack or should I go low
 riders in the front?

 --
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[RBW] Re: Rack on Rambouillet

2010-01-24 Thread Mike
As Steve mentioned, a Carradice bag might be an excellent way to go.
Sure, the load rides a bit higher but you don't need a rack to use a
Carradice bag, even a bigger one like a Nelson LF. And remember, if
you haven't considered this, put on some thicker tires, say 700x35 and
the bike should handle the load fine.

This guy, who I think chimes in here time to time, seems to have a
good system down for bike camping on a Ram.

http://wheelsofchance.org/bikes/

I've ridden with a stuffed Carradice Nelson LF on my Rambouillet and
it was fine.

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[RBW] Re: Rack on Rambouillet

2010-01-24 Thread mark
What Steve said, use a Carradice Nelson or similar size saddlebag in
the rear (if you want to use something by Rivendell, get the Sackville
Saddle Sack in a medium). No need for a rack, so you save a bit of
weight, and you should have plenty of room for all your stuff.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rack on Rambouillet

2010-01-24 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2010-01-24 at 07:47 -0800, Mike wrote:
 As Steve mentioned, a Carradice bag might be an excellent way to go.
 Sure, the load rides a bit higher but you don't need a rack to use a
 Carradice bag, even a bigger one like a Nelson LF. And remember, if
 you haven't considered this, put on some thicker tires, say 700x35 and
 the bike should handle the load fine.

We don't know how heavy the OP is.  When I had my Rambouillet, I weighed
220 lb.  I routinely carried 5 lb in a Carradice whenever I rode it.
The weight was unnoticeable.  So if the OP weighs 175-185, he could
carry everything for a 10 day tour and still come in lighter than I was
just going for a 50 mile club ride.

Grant is, IMHO, extremly conservative in rating this bike as suitable
for = 20 lb load.  The frame is stiffer than on the Jack Taylor
Supertourist, one of the finest touring bikes of the 1970s.



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[RBW] Re: Rack on Rambouillet

2010-01-24 Thread rperks
The closest you will get to that bar bag is an Acorn, www.acornbags.com

The bag they sell is smaller than the carradice above, but will work
better for bars narrower than 46cm.  The carradice bag is a licky find
that comes up from time to time.  One was for sale here on the list a
few months back, usually a couple a year turn up.  The carradice is
perfect for getting 2 dozen eggs home from the market.  And no mine is
nott for sale ;)

Rob

On Jan 24, 8:00 am, Carl Otto Wollin carlottowol...@hotmail.com
wrote:
 Hello RBW

 I can´t find that traditional looking handlbar bag in cotton duck only the 
 saddlebags like the Nelson and Barley. I´m looking for that convenient style 
 that do not need a rack. All ideas are welcomed.

 Carl Otto Wollin





  Subject: RE: [RBW] Rack on Rambouillet
  From: palin...@his.com
  To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
  Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 10:50:02 -0500

  On Sun, 2010-01-24 at 16:43 +0100, Carl Otto Wollin wrote:
   Hello Steve

   Where have you bought those bags do you know if they are still
   availble. I´m looking for bags in the same style.

  Peter White has them:  http://peterwhitecycles.com/carradice.asp
  That looks like the Super C handlebar bag and possibly a Nelson Longflap
  in back.

  You can also get them directly from Carradice in the UK
 http://carradice.co.uk/ if you can't find somebody local who has them

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RE: [RBW] Re: Rack on Rambouillet

2010-01-24 Thread Carl Otto Wollin

Hello, Acorn is the way to go thank you for your input.

Carl O Wollin

 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 08:21:20 -0800
 Subject: [RBW] Re: Rack on Rambouillet
 From: perks@gmail.com
 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 
 The closest you will get to that bar bag is an Acorn, www.acornbags.com
 
 The bag they sell is smaller than the carradice above, but will work
 better for bars narrower than 46cm.  The carradice bag is a licky find
 that comes up from time to time.  One was for sale here on the list a
 few months back, usually a couple a year turn up.  The carradice is
 perfect for getting 2 dozen eggs home from the market.  And no mine is
 nott for sale ;)
 
 Rob
 
 On Jan 24, 8:00 am, Carl Otto Wollin carlottowol...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
  Hello RBW
 
  I can´t find that traditional looking handlbar bag in cotton duck only the 
  saddlebags like the Nelson and Barley. I´m looking for that convenient 
  style that do not need a rack. All ideas are welcomed.
 
  Carl Otto Wollin
 
 
 
 
 
   Subject: RE: [RBW] Rack on Rambouillet
   From: palin...@his.com
   To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
   Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 10:50:02 -0500
 
   On Sun, 2010-01-24 at 16:43 +0100, Carl Otto Wollin wrote:
Hello Steve
 
Where have you bought those bags do you know if they are still
availble. I´m looking for bags in the same style.
 
   Peter White has them:  http://peterwhitecycles.com/carradice.asp
   That looks like the Super C handlebar bag and possibly a Nelson Longflap
   in back.
 
   You can also get them directly from Carradice in the UK
  http://carradice.co.uk/ if you can't find somebody local who has them
 
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[RBW] Re: Rack on Rambouillet

2010-01-24 Thread Mike
Carradice bags can be obtained through the UK cheaply and quickly. Try
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/m/cycle/7/Carradice/ I got a Brooks saddle
through them a while back and they were great. Peter White is a good
resource for Carradice bags in the USA.

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[RBW] Re: Rack on Rambouillet

2010-01-24 Thread MichaelH
I have carried a fair amount of weight in my Nelson LF on my
Rambouillet.  It only seems to affect the handling when standing up.
The advantage of the Carradice, or other large saddle bag, is that it
keeps the load above the fender.  Panniers (I prefer Arkels) keep the
load lower and ride better, but if you hit rain , there down there in
the muck.

Don't sweat over it, just go for it.
Michael

On Jan 24, 10:10 am, George Strickler chobur...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am contemplating a 10-14 day trip this summer using plastic and
 sleeping in beds.  I would like to use my Rambouillet but I think I
 need to carry a bit more than will go in my handlebar bag which is the
 only bag I've ever used with the bike.  I have another bike set up for
 heavy loads.  I know the Ram is not designed for carrying a lot of
 rear weight but I was thinking that a smallish set of panniers on a
 rear rack would work.  Recommendations for a rack or should I go low
 riders in the front?

 --
 GeorgeS

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