[RBW] Re: Randonnerding totally loaded in Vermont and New Hampshire

2013-09-27 Thread Matt Beebe
Bobby, if you end up planning another trip to NH and VT next year count me 
in.


On Thursday, September 26, 2013 3:42:31 PM UTC-4, Montclair BobbyB wrote:

 Actually,Norm I had a great ride to the Kingdom planned for late 
 September/early October with a good friend from Sonoma, but he couldn't 
 make it back East. We even planned a stop at the Hill Farmstead in 
 Greensboro Bend, where Shaun Hill is brewing up some world-class beers, *(and 
 we all know beer and bike culture go together so well)*.  I also planned 
 to take advantage of the great snowmobile trails; it's such a gorgeous 
 area, definitely future Riv Rally territory... For now I'll have to 
 experience it (vicariously) through Matt B. Thanks for sharing the great 
 photos, Matt!!!

 It hasn't been a total bust, however... I did make it up to Grand Isle 2 
 weeks ago, where I enjoyed some great riding and had the pleasure of 
 attending a beer event at my brother's house, co-hosted by local beer hero 
 Sean Lawson (Lawson's Finest Liquids)... *a most righteous brewer is he...
 *

 Peace,
 Bobby 

 On Wednesday, September 25, 2013 2:38:27 PM UTC-4, Norman R wrote:

 Thanks for the report and photos.  I rode in that area for about a week 
 20-25 years ago and it was/is a perfect bike riding location.  Perhaps 
 Montclair Bobby B. or someone else more local could think about putting 
 together a Riv.RideEast?
 Norman

 On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:02:17 AM UTC-4, Matt Beebe wrote:

 Hi All, just thought I'd share some photos from a recent ride to 
 Vermont.I went to the Northeast Kingdom to visit friends not far from 
 the Canadian border, and took a nice route to get there and back.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/43029278@N07/sets/72157635839369194/

 There are many, many miles of dirt road and snowmobile/ATV trails on the 
 way up there, some smooth, some rocky, but all fun.   Even the paved roads 
 are nice.   The scenery was gorgeous, and the leaves had begun to change 
 already, especially north of White River Junction.The small towns and 
 nice people in Vermont are the best.

 The bike handled perfectly, and the only thing that rattled loose was my 
 mudflap(!) toward the end of the trip on a particularly bumpy section. 
 You may notice I only have one water bottle, but that's because I prefer 
 dromedary bags for carrying most of my water-  the bottle is just a more 
 convenient vessel to drink from :)  

 This was my first fully loaded ride using moustache bars and the Nitto 
 Large back rack, which I bought from Riv a while ago-I had been using a 
 Tubus Cargo prior to this.I found the M-bars to be fantastic for 
 all-day riding.  I had used them before for ~2 hour rides on my QB and 
 reckoned they'd be good for touring, but have always just stuck with 
 Noodles since I know they work well for me. This ride convinced me that 
 M-bars give plenty of hand positions for comfort and work well on bumpy 
 terrain when riding somewhat heavily loaded.   You do need a short stem 
 with M-bars though.

 My only (minor) complaint about the Nitto rack is that platform is much 
 too far back behind the rear axle, and it is difficult to get weight far 
 enough forward with it due to the tombstone being so far back.Sliding 
 the mounting points forward at the top results in the rack tilting forward 
 at an odd angle.   This is strange to me since I ride relatively large 
 frames, and most racks (especially non-adjustable ones) end up tilting 
 backward because of the steep angle of my seat-stays.  The Nitto seems more 
 geared toward frames with ultra-short chainstays, or super-tall frames.
 BUT it is still a ridiculously nice rack though, and I have like 5 inches 
 of heel clearance with it (size 10's) so if you have large feet/ heel 
 clearance issues with your rack it would be a good option.I may go back 
 to the Tubus for future loaded riding, as it seems ideally suited to frames 
 in my size in terms of where the platform is located.I also really like 
 an R14 with the large saddlesack when not riding with panniers.

 Anyway hope you enjoy the photos.

 Matt



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[RBW] Re: Randonnerding totally loaded in Vermont and New Hampshire

2013-09-26 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Actually,Norm I had a great ride to the Kingdom planned for late 
September/early October with a good friend from Sonoma, but he couldn't 
make it back East. We even planned a stop at the Hill Farmstead in 
Greensboro Bend, where Shaun Hill is brewing up some world-class beers, *(and 
we all know beer and bike culture go together so well)*.  I also planned to 
take advantage of the great snowmobile trails; it's such a gorgeous area, 
definitely future Riv Rally territory... For now I'll have to experience it 
(vicariously) through Matt B. Thanks for sharing the great photos, Matt!!!

It hasn't been a total bust, however... I did make it up to Grand Isle 2 
weeks ago, where I enjoyed some great riding and had the pleasure of 
attending a beer event at my brother's house, co-hosted by local beer hero 
Sean Lawson (Lawson's Finest Liquids)... *a most righteous brewer is he...*

Peace,
Bobby 

On Wednesday, September 25, 2013 2:38:27 PM UTC-4, Norman R wrote:

 Thanks for the report and photos.  I rode in that area for about a week 
 20-25 years ago and it was/is a perfect bike riding location.  Perhaps 
 Montclair Bobby B. or someone else more local could think about putting 
 together a Riv.RideEast?
 Norman

 On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:02:17 AM UTC-4, Matt Beebe wrote:

 Hi All, just thought I'd share some photos from a recent ride to Vermont. 
I went to the Northeast Kingdom to visit friends not far from the 
 Canadian border, and took a nice route to get there and back.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/43029278@N07/sets/72157635839369194/

 There are many, many miles of dirt road and snowmobile/ATV trails on the 
 way up there, some smooth, some rocky, but all fun.   Even the paved roads 
 are nice.   The scenery was gorgeous, and the leaves had begun to change 
 already, especially north of White River Junction.The small towns and 
 nice people in Vermont are the best.

 The bike handled perfectly, and the only thing that rattled loose was my 
 mudflap(!) toward the end of the trip on a particularly bumpy section. 
 You may notice I only have one water bottle, but that's because I prefer 
 dromedary bags for carrying most of my water-  the bottle is just a more 
 convenient vessel to drink from :)  

 This was my first fully loaded ride using moustache bars and the Nitto 
 Large back rack, which I bought from Riv a while ago-I had been using a 
 Tubus Cargo prior to this.I found the M-bars to be fantastic for 
 all-day riding.  I had used them before for ~2 hour rides on my QB and 
 reckoned they'd be good for touring, but have always just stuck with 
 Noodles since I know they work well for me. This ride convinced me that 
 M-bars give plenty of hand positions for comfort and work well on bumpy 
 terrain when riding somewhat heavily loaded.   You do need a short stem 
 with M-bars though.

 My only (minor) complaint about the Nitto rack is that platform is much 
 too far back behind the rear axle, and it is difficult to get weight far 
 enough forward with it due to the tombstone being so far back.Sliding 
 the mounting points forward at the top results in the rack tilting forward 
 at an odd angle.   This is strange to me since I ride relatively large 
 frames, and most racks (especially non-adjustable ones) end up tilting 
 backward because of the steep angle of my seat-stays.  The Nitto seems more 
 geared toward frames with ultra-short chainstays, or super-tall frames.
 BUT it is still a ridiculously nice rack though, and I have like 5 inches 
 of heel clearance with it (size 10's) so if you have large feet/ heel 
 clearance issues with your rack it would be a good option.I may go back 
 to the Tubus for future loaded riding, as it seems ideally suited to frames 
 in my size in terms of where the platform is located.I also really like 
 an R14 with the large saddlesack when not riding with panniers.

 Anyway hope you enjoy the photos.

 Matt



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[RBW] Re: Randonnerding totally loaded in Vermont and New Hampshire

2013-09-25 Thread Rusty Click
Hi Matt,
What a great set of pictures!  My family and I spent 2 weeks in the Newport 
area a couple of years back, and loved the cycling and kayaking.
I've always wanted to do a bike tour in the area, and now you've got that 
itch going again!

Rusty Click
Pittsburgh, PA

On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:02:17 AM UTC-4, Matt Beebe wrote:

 Hi All, just thought I'd share some photos from a recent ride to Vermont. 
I went to the Northeast Kingdom to visit friends not far from the 
 Canadian border, and took a nice route to get there and back.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/43029278@N07/sets/72157635839369194/

 There are many, many miles of dirt road and snowmobile/ATV trails on the 
 way up there, some smooth, some rocky, but all fun.   Even the paved roads 
 are nice.   The scenery was gorgeous, and the leaves had begun to change 
 already, especially north of White River Junction.The small towns and 
 nice people in Vermont are the best.

 The bike handled perfectly, and the only thing that rattled loose was my 
 mudflap(!) toward the end of the trip on a particularly bumpy section. 
 You may notice I only have one water bottle, but that's because I prefer 
 dromedary bags for carrying most of my water-  the bottle is just a more 
 convenient vessel to drink from :)  

 This was my first fully loaded ride using moustache bars and the Nitto 
 Large back rack, which I bought from Riv a while ago-I had been using a 
 Tubus Cargo prior to this.I found the M-bars to be fantastic for 
 all-day riding.  I had used them before for ~2 hour rides on my QB and 
 reckoned they'd be good for touring, but have always just stuck with 
 Noodles since I know they work well for me. This ride convinced me that 
 M-bars give plenty of hand positions for comfort and work well on bumpy 
 terrain when riding somewhat heavily loaded.   You do need a short stem 
 with M-bars though.

 My only (minor) complaint about the Nitto rack is that platform is much 
 too far back behind the rear axle, and it is difficult to get weight far 
 enough forward with it due to the tombstone being so far back.Sliding 
 the mounting points forward at the top results in the rack tilting forward 
 at an odd angle.   This is strange to me since I ride relatively large 
 frames, and most racks (especially non-adjustable ones) end up tilting 
 backward because of the steep angle of my seat-stays.  The Nitto seems more 
 geared toward frames with ultra-short chainstays, or super-tall frames.
 BUT it is still a ridiculously nice rack though, and I have like 5 inches 
 of heel clearance with it (size 10's) so if you have large feet/ heel 
 clearance issues with your rack it would be a good option.I may go back 
 to the Tubus for future loaded riding, as it seems ideally suited to frames 
 in my size in terms of where the platform is located.I also really like 
 an R14 with the large saddlesack when not riding with panniers.

 Anyway hope you enjoy the photos.

 Matt


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[RBW] Re: Randonnerding totally loaded in Vermont and New Hampshire

2013-09-25 Thread Ron Mc
really great photos and a fine ride.  

On Wednesday, September 25, 2013 7:46:25 AM UTC-5, Rusty Click wrote:

 Hi Matt,
 What a great set of pictures!  My family and I spent 2 weeks in the 
 Newport area a couple of years back, and loved the cycling and kayaking.
 I've always wanted to do a bike tour in the area, and now you've got that 
 itch going again!

 Rusty Click
 Pittsburgh, PA

 On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:02:17 AM UTC-4, Matt Beebe wrote:

 Hi All, just thought I'd share some photos from a recent ride to Vermont. 
I went to the Northeast Kingdom to visit friends not far from the 
 Canadian border, and took a nice route to get there and back.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/43029278@N07/sets/72157635839369194/

 There are many, many miles of dirt road and snowmobile/ATV trails on the 
 way up there, some smooth, some rocky, but all fun.   Even the paved roads 
 are nice.   The scenery was gorgeous, and the leaves had begun to change 
 already, especially north of White River Junction.The small towns and 
 nice people in Vermont are the best.

 The bike handled perfectly, and the only thing that rattled loose was my 
 mudflap(!) toward the end of the trip on a particularly bumpy section. 
 You may notice I only have one water bottle, but that's because I prefer 
 dromedary bags for carrying most of my water-  the bottle is just a more 
 convenient vessel to drink from :)  

 This was my first fully loaded ride using moustache bars and the Nitto 
 Large back rack, which I bought from Riv a while ago-I had been using a 
 Tubus Cargo prior to this.I found the M-bars to be fantastic for 
 all-day riding.  I had used them before for ~2 hour rides on my QB and 
 reckoned they'd be good for touring, but have always just stuck with 
 Noodles since I know they work well for me. This ride convinced me that 
 M-bars give plenty of hand positions for comfort and work well on bumpy 
 terrain when riding somewhat heavily loaded.   You do need a short stem 
 with M-bars though.

 My only (minor) complaint about the Nitto rack is that platform is much 
 too far back behind the rear axle, and it is difficult to get weight far 
 enough forward with it due to the tombstone being so far back.Sliding 
 the mounting points forward at the top results in the rack tilting forward 
 at an odd angle.   This is strange to me since I ride relatively large 
 frames, and most racks (especially non-adjustable ones) end up tilting 
 backward because of the steep angle of my seat-stays.  The Nitto seems more 
 geared toward frames with ultra-short chainstays, or super-tall frames.
 BUT it is still a ridiculously nice rack though, and I have like 5 inches 
 of heel clearance with it (size 10's) so if you have large feet/ heel 
 clearance issues with your rack it would be a good option.I may go back 
 to the Tubus for future loaded riding, as it seems ideally suited to frames 
 in my size in terms of where the platform is located.I also really like 
 an R14 with the large saddlesack when not riding with panniers.

 Anyway hope you enjoy the photos.

 Matt



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[RBW] Re: Randonnerding totally loaded in Vermont and New Hampshire

2013-09-25 Thread Norman R
Thanks for the report and photos.  I rode in that area for about a week 
20-25 years ago and it was/is a perfect bike riding location.  Perhaps 
Montclair Bobby B. or someone else more local could think about putting 
together a Riv.RideEast?
Norman

On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:02:17 AM UTC-4, Matt Beebe wrote:

 Hi All, just thought I'd share some photos from a recent ride to Vermont. 
I went to the Northeast Kingdom to visit friends not far from the 
 Canadian border, and took a nice route to get there and back.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/43029278@N07/sets/72157635839369194/

 There are many, many miles of dirt road and snowmobile/ATV trails on the 
 way up there, some smooth, some rocky, but all fun.   Even the paved roads 
 are nice.   The scenery was gorgeous, and the leaves had begun to change 
 already, especially north of White River Junction.The small towns and 
 nice people in Vermont are the best.

 The bike handled perfectly, and the only thing that rattled loose was my 
 mudflap(!) toward the end of the trip on a particularly bumpy section. 
 You may notice I only have one water bottle, but that's because I prefer 
 dromedary bags for carrying most of my water-  the bottle is just a more 
 convenient vessel to drink from :)  

 This was my first fully loaded ride using moustache bars and the Nitto 
 Large back rack, which I bought from Riv a while ago-I had been using a 
 Tubus Cargo prior to this.I found the M-bars to be fantastic for 
 all-day riding.  I had used them before for ~2 hour rides on my QB and 
 reckoned they'd be good for touring, but have always just stuck with 
 Noodles since I know they work well for me. This ride convinced me that 
 M-bars give plenty of hand positions for comfort and work well on bumpy 
 terrain when riding somewhat heavily loaded.   You do need a short stem 
 with M-bars though.

 My only (minor) complaint about the Nitto rack is that platform is much 
 too far back behind the rear axle, and it is difficult to get weight far 
 enough forward with it due to the tombstone being so far back.Sliding 
 the mounting points forward at the top results in the rack tilting forward 
 at an odd angle.   This is strange to me since I ride relatively large 
 frames, and most racks (especially non-adjustable ones) end up tilting 
 backward because of the steep angle of my seat-stays.  The Nitto seems more 
 geared toward frames with ultra-short chainstays, or super-tall frames.
 BUT it is still a ridiculously nice rack though, and I have like 5 inches 
 of heel clearance with it (size 10's) so if you have large feet/ heel 
 clearance issues with your rack it would be a good option.I may go back 
 to the Tubus for future loaded riding, as it seems ideally suited to frames 
 in my size in terms of where the platform is located.I also really like 
 an R14 with the large saddlesack when not riding with panniers.

 Anyway hope you enjoy the photos.

 Matt


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[RBW] Re: Randonnerding totally loaded in Vermont and New Hampshire

2013-09-25 Thread Anton Tutter
Matt,

Thanks for sharing those wonderful photos!  You captured the essence of 
what I consider to be the perfect bicycling experience.  How long was your 
trip, and how many miles did you cover?

Anton Tutter
Somerville, MA

On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:02:17 AM UTC-4, Matt Beebe wrote:

 Hi All, just thought I'd share some photos from a recent ride to Vermont. 
I went to the Northeast Kingdom to visit friends not far from the 
 Canadian border, and took a nice route to get there and back.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/43029278@N07/sets/72157635839369194/

 There are many, many miles of dirt road and snowmobile/ATV trails on the 
 way up there, some smooth, some rocky, but all fun.   Even the paved roads 
 are nice.   The scenery was gorgeous, and the leaves had begun to change 
 already, especially north of White River Junction.The small towns and 
 nice people in Vermont are the best.

 The bike handled perfectly, and the only thing that rattled loose was my 
 mudflap(!) toward the end of the trip on a particularly bumpy section. 
 You may notice I only have one water bottle, but that's because I prefer 
 dromedary bags for carrying most of my water-  the bottle is just a more 
 convenient vessel to drink from :)  

 This was my first fully loaded ride using moustache bars and the Nitto 
 Large back rack, which I bought from Riv a while ago-I had been using a 
 Tubus Cargo prior to this.I found the M-bars to be fantastic for 
 all-day riding.  I had used them before for ~2 hour rides on my QB and 
 reckoned they'd be good for touring, but have always just stuck with 
 Noodles since I know they work well for me. This ride convinced me that 
 M-bars give plenty of hand positions for comfort and work well on bumpy 
 terrain when riding somewhat heavily loaded.   You do need a short stem 
 with M-bars though.

 My only (minor) complaint about the Nitto rack is that platform is much 
 too far back behind the rear axle, and it is difficult to get weight far 
 enough forward with it due to the tombstone being so far back.Sliding 
 the mounting points forward at the top results in the rack tilting forward 
 at an odd angle.   This is strange to me since I ride relatively large 
 frames, and most racks (especially non-adjustable ones) end up tilting 
 backward because of the steep angle of my seat-stays.  The Nitto seems more 
 geared toward frames with ultra-short chainstays, or super-tall frames.
 BUT it is still a ridiculously nice rack though, and I have like 5 inches 
 of heel clearance with it (size 10's) so if you have large feet/ heel 
 clearance issues with your rack it would be a good option.I may go back 
 to the Tubus for future loaded riding, as it seems ideally suited to frames 
 in my size in terms of where the platform is located.I also really like 
 an R14 with the large saddlesack when not riding with panniers.

 Anyway hope you enjoy the photos.

 Matt


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[RBW] Re: Randonnerding totally loaded in Vermont and New Hampshire

2013-09-24 Thread Deacon Patrick
Wow! Fantastic photos of a grand backroads tour. I presume you are playing 
the piano you picked up? I particularly loved the Coronary trail.

WIth abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:02:17 AM UTC-6, Matt Beebe wrote:

 Hi All, just thought I'd share some photos from a recent ride to Vermont. 
I went to the Northeast Kingdom to visit friends not far from the 
 Canadian border, and took a nice route to get there and back.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/43029278@N07/sets/72157635839369194/

 There are many, many miles of dirt road and snowmobile/ATV trails on the 
 way up there, some smooth, some rocky, but all fun.   Even the paved roads 
 are nice.   The scenery was gorgeous, and the leaves had begun to change 
 already, especially north of White River Junction.The small towns and 
 nice people in Vermont are the best.

 The bike handled perfectly, and the only thing that rattled loose was my 
 mudflap(!) toward the end of the trip on a particularly bumpy section. 
 You may notice I only have one water bottle, but that's because I prefer 
 dromedary bags for carrying most of my water-  the bottle is just a more 
 convenient vessel to drink from :)  

 This was my first fully loaded ride using moustache bars and the Nitto 
 Large back rack, which I bought from Riv a while ago-I had been using a 
 Tubus Cargo prior to this.I found the M-bars to be fantastic for 
 all-day riding.  I had used them before for ~2 hour rides on my QB and 
 reckoned they'd be good for touring, but have always just stuck with 
 Noodles since I know they work well for me. This ride convinced me that 
 M-bars give plenty of hand positions for comfort and work well on bumpy 
 terrain when riding somewhat heavily loaded.   You do need a short stem 
 with M-bars though.

 My only (minor) complaint about the Nitto rack is that platform is much 
 too far back behind the rear axle, and it is difficult to get weight far 
 enough forward with it due to the tombstone being so far back.Sliding 
 the mounting points forward at the top results in the rack tilting forward 
 at an odd angle.   This is strange to me since I ride relatively large 
 frames, and most racks (especially non-adjustable ones) end up tilting 
 backward because of the steep angle of my seat-stays.  The Nitto seems more 
 geared toward frames with ultra-short chainstays, or super-tall frames.
 BUT it is still a ridiculously nice rack though, and I have like 5 inches 
 of heel clearance with it (size 10's) so if you have large feet/ heel 
 clearance issues with your rack it would be a good option.I may go back 
 to the Tubus for future loaded riding, as it seems ideally suited to frames 
 in my size in terms of where the platform is located.I also really like 
 an R14 with the large saddlesack when not riding with panniers.

 Anyway hope you enjoy the photos.

 Matt


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[RBW] Re: Randonnerding totally loaded in Vermont and New Hampshire

2013-09-24 Thread Matt Beebe
Thanks Patrick, and LOL yes the Coronary trail gave me a chuckle.   There 
was also a Coronary By-pass trail but I didn't get a photo of that 
sign.   That was in the Kingdom Trails near Burke VT. 



On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:08:00 AM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Wow! Fantastic photos of a grand backroads tour. I presume you are playing 
 the piano you picked up? I particularly loved the Coronary trail.

 WIth abandon,
 Patrick

 On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:02:17 AM UTC-6, Matt Beebe wrote:

 Hi All, just thought I'd share some photos from a recent ride to Vermont. 
I went to the Northeast Kingdom to visit friends not far from the 
 Canadian border, and took a nice route to get there and back.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/43029278@N07/sets/72157635839369194/

 There are many, many miles of dirt road and snowmobile/ATV trails on the 
 way up there, some smooth, some rocky, but all fun.   Even the paved roads 
 are nice.   The scenery was gorgeous, and the leaves had begun to change 
 already, especially north of White River Junction.The small towns and 
 nice people in Vermont are the best.

 The bike handled perfectly, and the only thing that rattled loose was my 
 mudflap(!) toward the end of the trip on a particularly bumpy section. 
 You may notice I only have one water bottle, but that's because I prefer 
 dromedary bags for carrying most of my water-  the bottle is just a more 
 convenient vessel to drink from :)  

 This was my first fully loaded ride using moustache bars and the Nitto 
 Large back rack, which I bought from Riv a while ago-I had been using a 
 Tubus Cargo prior to this.I found the M-bars to be fantastic for 
 all-day riding.  I had used them before for ~2 hour rides on my QB and 
 reckoned they'd be good for touring, but have always just stuck with 
 Noodles since I know they work well for me. This ride convinced me that 
 M-bars give plenty of hand positions for comfort and work well on bumpy 
 terrain when riding somewhat heavily loaded.   You do need a short stem 
 with M-bars though.

 My only (minor) complaint about the Nitto rack is that platform is much 
 too far back behind the rear axle, and it is difficult to get weight far 
 enough forward with it due to the tombstone being so far back.Sliding 
 the mounting points forward at the top results in the rack tilting forward 
 at an odd angle.   This is strange to me since I ride relatively large 
 frames, and most racks (especially non-adjustable ones) end up tilting 
 backward because of the steep angle of my seat-stays.  The Nitto seems more 
 geared toward frames with ultra-short chainstays, or super-tall frames.
 BUT it is still a ridiculously nice rack though, and I have like 5 inches 
 of heel clearance with it (size 10's) so if you have large feet/ heel 
 clearance issues with your rack it would be a good option.I may go back 
 to the Tubus for future loaded riding, as it seems ideally suited to frames 
 in my size in terms of where the platform is located.I also really like 
 an R14 with the large saddlesack when not riding with panniers.

 Anyway hope you enjoy the photos.

 Matt



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[RBW] Re: Randonnerding totally loaded in Vermont and New Hampshire

2013-09-24 Thread Bill Lindsay
You caught Coronary Bypass on the map photo:

MAPhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/43029278@N07/9915250356/in/set-72157635839369194

On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:14:58 AM UTC-7, Matt Beebe wrote:

 Thanks Patrick, and LOL yes the Coronary trail gave me a chuckle.   There 
 was also a Coronary By-pass trail but I didn't get a photo of that 
 sign.   That was in the Kingdom Trails near Burke VT. 



 On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:08:00 AM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Wow! Fantastic photos of a grand backroads tour. I presume you are 
 playing the piano you picked up? I particularly loved the Coronary trail.

 WIth abandon,
 Patrick

 On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:02:17 AM UTC-6, Matt Beebe wrote:

 Hi All, just thought I'd share some photos from a recent ride to 
 Vermont.I went to the Northeast Kingdom to visit friends not far from 
 the Canadian border, and took a nice route to get there and back.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/43029278@N07/sets/72157635839369194/

 There are many, many miles of dirt road and snowmobile/ATV trails on the 
 way up there, some smooth, some rocky, but all fun.   Even the paved roads 
 are nice.   The scenery was gorgeous, and the leaves had begun to change 
 already, especially north of White River Junction.The small towns and 
 nice people in Vermont are the best.

 The bike handled perfectly, and the only thing that rattled loose was my 
 mudflap(!) toward the end of the trip on a particularly bumpy section. 
 You may notice I only have one water bottle, but that's because I prefer 
 dromedary bags for carrying most of my water-  the bottle is just a more 
 convenient vessel to drink from :)  

 This was my first fully loaded ride using moustache bars and the Nitto 
 Large back rack, which I bought from Riv a while ago-I had been using a 
 Tubus Cargo prior to this.I found the M-bars to be fantastic for 
 all-day riding.  I had used them before for ~2 hour rides on my QB and 
 reckoned they'd be good for touring, but have always just stuck with 
 Noodles since I know they work well for me. This ride convinced me that 
 M-bars give plenty of hand positions for comfort and work well on bumpy 
 terrain when riding somewhat heavily loaded.   You do need a short stem 
 with M-bars though.

 My only (minor) complaint about the Nitto rack is that platform is much 
 too far back behind the rear axle, and it is difficult to get weight far 
 enough forward with it due to the tombstone being so far back.Sliding 
 the mounting points forward at the top results in the rack tilting forward 
 at an odd angle.   This is strange to me since I ride relatively large 
 frames, and most racks (especially non-adjustable ones) end up tilting 
 backward because of the steep angle of my seat-stays.  The Nitto seems more 
 geared toward frames with ultra-short chainstays, or super-tall frames.
 BUT it is still a ridiculously nice rack though, and I have like 5 inches 
 of heel clearance with it (size 10's) so if you have large feet/ heel 
 clearance issues with your rack it would be a good option.I may go back 
 to the Tubus for future loaded riding, as it seems ideally suited to frames 
 in my size in terms of where the platform is located.I also really like 
 an R14 with the large saddlesack when not riding with panniers.

 Anyway hope you enjoy the photos.

 Matt



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[RBW] Re: Randonnerding totally loaded in Vermont and New Hampshire

2013-09-24 Thread Michael Hechmer
Matt, we're so glad you had a good time.  Too many riders skip the dirt 
roads of VT, many of which are super for riding on.  Even are local riding 
maps often avoid good dirt roads.  If you ever ant to return give me a 
shout.

Michael
Westford, VT  (where its cloudy, cool, damp, and windy today but otherwise 
perfect for riding!)

On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:02:17 AM UTC-4, Matt Beebe wrote:

 Hi All, just thought I'd share some photos from a recent ride to Vermont. 
I went to the Northeast Kingdom to visit friends not far from the 
 Canadian border, and took a nice route to get there and back.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/43029278@N07/sets/72157635839369194/

 There are many, many miles of dirt road and snowmobile/ATV trails on the 
 way up there, some smooth, some rocky, but all fun.   Even the paved roads 
 are nice.   The scenery was gorgeous, and the leaves had begun to change 
 already, especially north of White River Junction.The small towns and 
 nice people in Vermont are the best.

 The bike handled perfectly, and the only thing that rattled loose was my 
 mudflap(!) toward the end of the trip on a particularly bumpy section. 
 You may notice I only have one water bottle, but that's because I prefer 
 dromedary bags for carrying most of my water-  the bottle is just a more 
 convenient vessel to drink from :)  

 This was my first fully loaded ride using moustache bars and the Nitto 
 Large back rack, which I bought from Riv a while ago-I had been using a 
 Tubus Cargo prior to this.I found the M-bars to be fantastic for 
 all-day riding.  I had used them before for ~2 hour rides on my QB and 
 reckoned they'd be good for touring, but have always just stuck with 
 Noodles since I know they work well for me. This ride convinced me that 
 M-bars give plenty of hand positions for comfort and work well on bumpy 
 terrain when riding somewhat heavily loaded.   You do need a short stem 
 with M-bars though.

 My only (minor) complaint about the Nitto rack is that platform is much 
 too far back behind the rear axle, and it is difficult to get weight far 
 enough forward with it due to the tombstone being so far back.Sliding 
 the mounting points forward at the top results in the rack tilting forward 
 at an odd angle.   This is strange to me since I ride relatively large 
 frames, and most racks (especially non-adjustable ones) end up tilting 
 backward because of the steep angle of my seat-stays.  The Nitto seems more 
 geared toward frames with ultra-short chainstays, or super-tall frames.
 BUT it is still a ridiculously nice rack though, and I have like 5 inches 
 of heel clearance with it (size 10's) so if you have large feet/ heel 
 clearance issues with your rack it would be a good option.I may go back 
 to the Tubus for future loaded riding, as it seems ideally suited to frames 
 in my size in terms of where the platform is located.I also really like 
 an R14 with the large saddlesack when not riding with panniers.

 Anyway hope you enjoy the photos.

 Matt


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[RBW] Re: Randonnerding totally loaded in Vermont and New Hampshire

2013-09-24 Thread Mike Schiller
Beautiful bike and fantastic tour Matt.  Those Vermont dirt roads are just 
amazing.  So jealous living here in So Cal of that kind of terrain.

~mike
Carlsbad Ca.

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[RBW] Re: Randonnerding totally loaded in Vermont and New Hampshire

2013-09-24 Thread hsmitham
Gotta say Matt just a fantastic tour! Really enjoyed the ride report and 
accompanying photography. Just another one for the bucket list.

~Hugh

On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:02:17 AM UTC-7, Matt Beebe wrote:

 Hi All, just thought I'd share some photos from a recent ride to Vermont. 
I went to the Northeast Kingdom to visit friends not far from the 
 Canadian border, and took a nice route to get there and back.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/43029278@N07/sets/72157635839369194/

 There are many, many miles of dirt road and snowmobile/ATV trails on the 
 way up there, some smooth, some rocky, but all fun.   Even the paved roads 
 are nice.   The scenery was gorgeous, and the leaves had begun to change 
 already, especially north of White River Junction.The small towns and 
 nice people in Vermont are the best.

 The bike handled perfectly, and the only thing that rattled loose was my 
 mudflap(!) toward the end of the trip on a particularly bumpy section. 
 You may notice I only have one water bottle, but that's because I prefer 
 dromedary bags for carrying most of my water-  the bottle is just a more 
 convenient vessel to drink from :)  

 This was my first fully loaded ride using moustache bars and the Nitto 
 Large back rack, which I bought from Riv a while ago-I had been using a 
 Tubus Cargo prior to this.I found the M-bars to be fantastic for 
 all-day riding.  I had used them before for ~2 hour rides on my QB and 
 reckoned they'd be good for touring, but have always just stuck with 
 Noodles since I know they work well for me. This ride convinced me that 
 M-bars give plenty of hand positions for comfort and work well on bumpy 
 terrain when riding somewhat heavily loaded.   You do need a short stem 
 with M-bars though.

 My only (minor) complaint about the Nitto rack is that platform is much 
 too far back behind the rear axle, and it is difficult to get weight far 
 enough forward with it due to the tombstone being so far back.Sliding 
 the mounting points forward at the top results in the rack tilting forward 
 at an odd angle.   This is strange to me since I ride relatively large 
 frames, and most racks (especially non-adjustable ones) end up tilting 
 backward because of the steep angle of my seat-stays.  The Nitto seems more 
 geared toward frames with ultra-short chainstays, or super-tall frames.
 BUT it is still a ridiculously nice rack though, and I have like 5 inches 
 of heel clearance with it (size 10's) so if you have large feet/ heel 
 clearance issues with your rack it would be a good option.I may go back 
 to the Tubus for future loaded riding, as it seems ideally suited to frames 
 in my size in terms of where the platform is located.I also really like 
 an R14 with the large saddlesack when not riding with panniers.

 Anyway hope you enjoy the photos.

 Matt


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[RBW] Re: Randonnerding totally loaded in Vermont and New Hampshire

2013-09-24 Thread Kieran J
Those trails and back roads look amazing. So much variety in the landscape 
you passed through.
Thanks for sharing!
 
KJ
 

On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:02:17 AM UTC-4, Matt Beebe wrote:

 Hi All, just thought I'd share some photos from a recent ride to Vermont. 
I went to the Northeast Kingdom to visit friends not far from the 
 Canadian border, and took a nice route to get there and back.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/43029278@N07/sets/72157635839369194/

 There are many, many miles of dirt road and snowmobile/ATV trails on the 
 way up there, some smooth, some rocky, but all fun.   Even the paved roads 
 are nice.   The scenery was gorgeous, and the leaves had begun to change 
 already, especially north of White River Junction.The small towns and 
 nice people in Vermont are the best.

 The bike handled perfectly, and the only thing that rattled loose was my 
 mudflap(!) toward the end of the trip on a particularly bumpy section. 
 You may notice I only have one water bottle, but that's because I prefer 
 dromedary bags for carrying most of my water-  the bottle is just a more 
 convenient vessel to drink from :)  

 This was my first fully loaded ride using moustache bars and the Nitto 
 Large back rack, which I bought from Riv a while ago-I had been using a 
 Tubus Cargo prior to this.I found the M-bars to be fantastic for 
 all-day riding.  I had used them before for ~2 hour rides on my QB and 
 reckoned they'd be good for touring, but have always just stuck with 
 Noodles since I know they work well for me. This ride convinced me that 
 M-bars give plenty of hand positions for comfort and work well on bumpy 
 terrain when riding somewhat heavily loaded.   You do need a short stem 
 with M-bars though.

 My only (minor) complaint about the Nitto rack is that platform is much 
 too far back behind the rear axle, and it is difficult to get weight far 
 enough forward with it due to the tombstone being so far back.Sliding 
 the mounting points forward at the top results in the rack tilting forward 
 at an odd angle.   This is strange to me since I ride relatively large 
 frames, and most racks (especially non-adjustable ones) end up tilting 
 backward because of the steep angle of my seat-stays.  The Nitto seems more 
 geared toward frames with ultra-short chainstays, or super-tall frames.
 BUT it is still a ridiculously nice rack though, and I have like 5 inches 
 of heel clearance with it (size 10's) so if you have large feet/ heel 
 clearance issues with your rack it would be a good option.I may go back 
 to the Tubus for future loaded riding, as it seems ideally suited to frames 
 in my size in terms of where the platform is located.I also really like 
 an R14 with the large saddlesack when not riding with panniers.

 Anyway hope you enjoy the photos.

 Matt


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