[RBW] Re: Recommendations for a front derailer on a compact double?

2013-11-25 Thread Garth 






I have a Sun Tour Superbe FD I could sell you if you're interested . $33 
shipped if in USA.   These have a bit shorter cage than most FD's, so 
they'd work well with a 48/34.   Or really ... any Shimano 7/8/9 sp. or Sun 
tour road double should work fine. Regardless, You do not need a mtb triple 
. 


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[RBW] Re: Recommendations for a front derailer on a compact double?

2013-11-25 Thread velomann 
I'm running the same White crankset on my new Ocean Air Rambler with 44/28 
rings and an Ultegra 6500 FD. works flawlessly. Also running an Ultegra 
long cage RD, and it handles the full range on an 11/34 9-speed cassette. 
Thought about going with XT, and probably would have worked fine too, but I 
like the Ultegra look better.

Mike

On Sunday, November 24, 2013 9:25:05 PM UTC-8, Mike On A Bike wrote:
>
> I just set up my Sam with a 48/34 White Industries crankset and I need a 
> new derailer for this drivetrain setup. It was probably just my mechanical 
> ineptitude, but I couldn't get my Campy "Mirage" derailer (that I had for a 
> triple) to work with it. I've not been thrilled with the Mirage anyhow, so 
> I want to get a new derailer that is ideal for a double. 
>
> I am thinking Shimano XT would be the best bet, but there are so many 
> models, I don't know which to pick (or if there is something better at a 
> similar price). Can any of you running double cranksets recommend a good 
> choice for me? 
>
> Many thanks! 
>

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[RBW] Re: Recommendations for a front derailer on a compact double?

2013-11-25 Thread Kieran J 
I'm running a Dura Ace 7400 FD on my VO compact 46-30 cranks and it's been 
working awesome.
 
I've actually found the opposite to Boomer's reports have worked well for 
me. I have the derailleur positioned very close to the crankset, so that it 
sweeps fairly tight over the top ring. As with many things, my experiences 
are probably more due to a lucky anomaly rather than expertise-induced 
practitioning..
 
KJ
 

On Monday, November 25, 2013 12:25:05 AM UTC-5, Mike On A Bike wrote:

> I just set up my Sam with a 48/34 White Industries crankset and I need a 
> new derailer for this drivetrain setup. It was probably just my mechanical 
> ineptitude, but I couldn't get my Campy "Mirage" derailer (that I had for a 
> triple) to work with it. I've not been thrilled with the Mirage anyhow, so 
> I want to get a new derailer that is ideal for a double.  
>
> I am thinking Shimano XT would be the best bet, but there are so many 
> models, I don't know which to pick (or if there is something better at a 
> similar price). Can any of you running double cranksets recommend a good 
> choice for me? 
>
> Many thanks! 
>

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[RBW] Re: Recommendations for a front derailer on a compact double?

2013-11-25 Thread ascpgh 
Auto-correct made this sort of cryptic. Once again:

I have a couple of Suntour X-1 FDs that I have been moving around on my 
bikes. They work better than the STI/Ergo-optimized units out there when 
not using indexed shifting. They aren't fidgety about trim. The current 
Shimano panacea (something "CX") is made to live in two places with a half 
click trim, or so it seemed after removing it and using the X-1. I would 
trade or sell it if someone was interested. Not to my liking on bar-end 
shifted bikes.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Monday, November 25, 2013 8:40:49 AM UTC-5, ascpgh wrote:
>
> I have a couple of Suntour X-1 FDs that I have been moving around on my 
> bikes. The work better than the brighter-optimizes stuff out there now when 
> shifting otherwise, and aren't fidgety about trim. The current Shimano 
> panacea (something "CX") is made to live in two places with a half click 
> trim, or so it seemed after removing it and using the X-1.
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
> On Monday, November 25, 2013 12:25:05 AM UTC-5, Mike On A Bike wrote:
>>
>> I just set up my Sam with a 48/34 White Industries crankset and I need a 
>> new derailer for this drivetrain setup. It was probably just my mechanical 
>> ineptitude, but I couldn't get my Campy "Mirage" derailer (that I had for a 
>> triple) to work with it. I've not been thrilled with the Mirage anyhow, so 
>> I want to get a new derailer that is ideal for a double. 
>>
>> I am thinking Shimano XT would be the best bet, but there are so many 
>> models, I don't know which to pick (or if there is something better at a 
>> similar price). Can any of you running double cranksets recommend a good 
>> choice for me? 
>>
>> Many thanks! 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Recommendations for a front derailer on a compact double?

2013-11-25 Thread boomer 
With doubles like yours, I've found that raising the FD a cm or more away from 
the large chainring works well.  I have the same White Industries crank set up 
on a Hilsen, and after much trial and error, this worked.  It gives greater 
clearance away from the chain stay.  Also, I've found that perfect parallel 
alignment of the FD cage with the chainring isn't the rule.  Tweaking it a 
degree or so can make a big difference.  I've done these tweaks on Campy, 
Ultegra, and older Shimano FD with success on a double, as well as a double 
with the chain guard.  Basically, observe the FD action when on the stand and 
adjust where it makes sense.  The standard directions or guidelines on FD 
alignment don't always apply.

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[RBW] Re: Recommendations for a front derailer on a compact double?

2013-11-25 Thread Alex Moll 
This would work great: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/d14.htm

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[RBW] Re: Recommendations for a front derailer on a compact double?

2013-11-25 Thread ascpgh 
I have a couple of Suntour X-1 FDs that I have been moving around on my 
bikes. The work better than the brighter-optimizes stuff out there now when 
shifting otherwise, and aren't fidgety about trim. The current Shimano 
panacea (something "CX") is made to live in two places with a half click 
trim, or so it seemed after removing it and using the X-1.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Monday, November 25, 2013 12:25:05 AM UTC-5, Mike On A Bike wrote:
>
> I just set up my Sam with a 48/34 White Industries crankset and I need a 
> new derailer for this drivetrain setup. It was probably just my mechanical 
> ineptitude, but I couldn't get my Campy "Mirage" derailer (that I had for a 
> triple) to work with it. I've not been thrilled with the Mirage anyhow, so 
> I want to get a new derailer that is ideal for a double. 
>
> I am thinking Shimano XT would be the best bet, but there are so many 
> models, I don't know which to pick (or if there is something better at a 
> similar price). Can any of you running double cranksets recommend a good 
> choice for me? 
>
> Many thanks! 
>

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[RBW] Re: Recommendations for a front derailer on a compact double?

2013-11-25 Thread Michael Hechmer 
What exactly is the problem with the derailler?  I run the campy triple FD 
on   44/30 and it shifts fantastically well.  In fact I have a number of 
campy front derailler, including the tandem (which are notoriously poor 
front shifters) and have gotten them all to work very well.

Michael

On Monday, November 25, 2013 12:25:05 AM UTC-5, Mike On A Bike wrote:
>
> I just set up my Sam with a 48/34 White Industries crankset and I need a 
> new derailer for this drivetrain setup. It was probably just my mechanical 
> ineptitude, but I couldn't get my Campy "Mirage" derailer (that I had for a 
> triple) to work with it. I've not been thrilled with the Mirage anyhow, so 
> I want to get a new derailer that is ideal for a double. 
>
> I am thinking Shimano XT would be the best bet, but there are so many 
> models, I don't know which to pick (or if there is something better at a 
> similar price). Can any of you running double cranksets recommend a good 
> choice for me? 
>
> Many thanks! 
>

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