[RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications
Interesting. Thinking about my own bikes (700c Surly LHT, 26 Surly Trucker DeLuxe, old 26 GT Karakoram), I see a blending of the influences of three men: Grant Petersen, Jan Heine, and Peter White. It has been argued that the Surly LHT geometry was broadly derived from the Atlantis; whether that's true or not, the relaxed geometry/sturdy steel/wide tire clearance is certainly compatible with Grant's approach. I run Riv pedals (Grip Kings or Thin Gripsters) on all three bikes, Jan's tires on the two Surlys (38mm Compass Barlow Pass on the 700c, Compass 1.75 on the 26); on the GT, I run Rivish Schwalbe Big Bens in the warm weather, and studded Nokian W240s (courtesy of Peter White) during ice bike season. The GT Karakoram's original flat bars have been enhanced with Cane Creek bar ends, again courtesy of Peter White. The build of the Trucker DeLuxe included some Rivish components, including wide Nitto Noodles, a Sugino crank, and NOS Sun Tour friction shifters. Grant, Jan, and Peter, thanks for your sage guidance. rod On Sunday, June 22, 2014 12:02:29 AM UTC-4, Mathew Greiner wrote: I've been wondering lately, what percentage of my bike needs to originate at Rivendell to qualify as a real RBW Owner? Obviously, a frame will do the trick, but that's something I don't have have, and probably won't anytime real soon. Meanwhile, just about every other part of my bike was bought from Rivendell. Tires, saddle, bar, grips, bar end Silvers, brakes, fenders, double legger kickstand, multiple straps, a Saddlesack, and many of my favorite wardrobe items. Bar tape and one or two accessories weren't ordered from Riv, but are the brands sold there. There's twine wrapped in more than a few places. I've read, recommended, and loaned both the latest RBW catalog and *Just Ride.* A hatchet and some camping bits are likely to be ordered soon. Is there a component percentage or a ratio of parts by mass that determine how Rivvy a bike is? Now, I'm sure I can call myself an iBOB, but as Google Groups go, the tone here is more comfortable. No one will quibble if I lurk or occasionally suggest that if Riv describes a hunk-O-cheese as a good thing to put in a Sackville pannier, then cheese should be On Topic, but am I a Riv Owner? Not exactly, but I'd like to think that if I mailed a postcard to HQ, they'd reply with the same. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications
LOL! For the record: My Grant-designed (just for me!) road bikes are my design benchmarks. (But I keep my bars properly low.) On the Lovely Bicycle blog's current entry, there is a formally unrelated but materially quite pertinent discussion about bar height and overall bicycle design, to which Jan Heine adds a useful commentary. On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 7:25 PM, Cecily Walker cecily.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 7:03:38 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote: yep, grant is the leader and we're all just followers. *b* ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* * Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be?* * Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you can find it?” -- Flannery O'Connor, Wise Blood * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications
The Trangia 28 mini set works great for me. http://www.amazon.com/Trangia-327508-28-T-Mini/dp/B000LN7HUC/ref=pd_sbs_sg_4?ie=UTF8refRID=0FAPDACAGVQHW094JDSK On Monday, June 23, 2014 8:36:21 PM UTC+3, Mathew Greiner wrote: Thanks, all. I do enjoy the discussions here. For those sensitive to the whiff of neurosis or of an almost obnoxious admiration of Rivendell, well, that might be part of it, but I justified asking the question because it seemed like it might generate some interesting dialogue. As for how nice the Sackville Small Saddlesack is--it's very. I sometimes wish I'd gotten a medium or even a large, otherwise it's great. Though I haven't used it much lately, as the saddle mounting position interferes with the Trail-A-Bike my daughter is often on. Should I need the space, I figure I'll just strap it to my front rack. Also super happy with a set of Swift Mini-Rolltop Panniers. Just to drift off topic slightly, who has a favorite cheap way to heat water at camp? Just looking for coffee on the morning of S24o's. Small pack size is secondary to small price, but both are important. Esbit or Trangia? What is the water holding vessel? Is there a good bottle or pot that can nest in a campfire? Not real interested in a $100 water heater from MSR. . . On Saturday, June 21, 2014 11:02:29 PM UTC-5, Mathew Greiner wrote: I've been wondering lately, what percentage of my bike needs to originate at Rivendell to qualify as a real RBW Owner? Obviously, a frame will do the trick, but that's something I don't have have, and probably won't anytime real soon. Meanwhile, just about every other part of my bike was bought from Rivendell. Tires, saddle, bar, grips, bar end Silvers, brakes, fenders, double legger kickstand, multiple straps, a Saddlesack, and many of my favorite wardrobe items. Bar tape and one or two accessories weren't ordered from Riv, but are the brands sold there. There's twine wrapped in more than a few places. I've read, recommended, and loaned both the latest RBW catalog and *Just Ride.* A hatchet and some camping bits are likely to be ordered soon. Is there a component percentage or a ratio of parts by mass that determine how Rivvy a bike is? Now, I'm sure I can call myself an iBOB, but as Google Groups go, the tone here is more comfortable. No one will quibble if I lurk or occasionally suggest that if Riv describes a hunk-O-cheese as a good thing to put in a Sackville pannier, then cheese should be On Topic, but am I a Riv Owner? Not exactly, but I'd like to think that if I mailed a postcard to HQ, they'd reply with the same. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications
I own neither a Riv nor a majority of the parts that Riv sells, but I subscribe to much of Grant's philosophy (not all of it). I see a lot of general content overlap between the Bob, 650b, Riv and Rawland lists, and I peruse them all. Anton ridingthecatskills.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications
Interesting, I read Grant as saying this works for me - if it helps you use it, but find your own path. Yep. Though with a hint of I thought about this for a long time and tried a lot of stuff out, and so it's probably as close to right as you can get if you accept the same premises I started with, but maybe you don't, and reinventing wheels is usually silly, especially since Rich makes such nice ones. On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 9:29:08 PM UTC-5, Robert Barr wrote: Interesting, I read Grant as saying this works for me - if it helps you use it, but find your own path. On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Cecily Walker cecily...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 7:03:38 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote: yep, grant is the leader and we're all just followers. *b* ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications
Um ... pass the kool-aid, please. L On Sunday, June 22, 2014 12:02:29 AM UTC-4, Mathew Greiner wrote: I've been wondering lately, what percentage of my bike needs to originate at Rivendell to qualify as a real RBW Owner? Obviously, a frame will do the trick, but that's something I don't have have, and probably won't anytime real soon. Meanwhile, just about every other part of my bike was bought from Rivendell. Tires, saddle, bar, grips, bar end Silvers, brakes, fenders, double legger kickstand, multiple straps, a Saddlesack, and many of my favorite wardrobe items. Bar tape and one or two accessories weren't ordered from Riv, but are the brands sold there. There's twine wrapped in more than a few places. I've read, recommended, and loaned both the latest RBW catalog and *Just Ride.* A hatchet and some camping bits are likely to be ordered soon. Is there a component percentage or a ratio of parts by mass that determine how Rivvy a bike is? Now, I'm sure I can call myself an iBOB, but as Google Groups go, the tone here is more comfortable. No one will quibble if I lurk or occasionally suggest that if Riv describes a hunk-O-cheese as a good thing to put in a Sackville pannier, then cheese should be On Topic, but am I a Riv Owner? Not exactly, but I'd like to think that if I mailed a postcard to HQ, they'd reply with the same. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications
Unless you own the company you're not a Rivendell Owner. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications
yep, grant is the leader and we're all just followers. On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 6:04:53 AM UTC-5, justin...@gmail.com wrote: Unless you own the company you're not a Rivendell Owner. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications
Thanks, all. I do enjoy the discussions here. For those sensitive to the whiff of neurosis or of an almost obnoxious admiration of Rivendell, well, that might be part of it, but I justified asking the question because it seemed like it might generate some interesting dialogue. As for how nice the Sackville Small Saddlesack is--it's very. I sometimes wish I'd gotten a medium or even a large, otherwise it's great. Though I haven't used it much lately, as the saddle mounting position interferes with the Trail-A-Bike my daughter is often on. Should I need the space, I figure I'll just strap it to my front rack. Also super happy with a set of Swift Mini-Rolltop Panniers. Just to drift off topic slightly, who has a favorite cheap way to heat water at camp? Just looking for coffee on the morning of S24o's. Small pack size is secondary to small price, but both are important. Esbit or Trangia? What is the water holding vessel? Is there a good bottle or pot that can nest in a campfire? Not real interested in a $100 water heater from MSR. . . On Saturday, June 21, 2014 11:02:29 PM UTC-5, Mathew Greiner wrote: I've been wondering lately, what percentage of my bike needs to originate at Rivendell to qualify as a real RBW Owner? Obviously, a frame will do the trick, but that's something I don't have have, and probably won't anytime real soon. Meanwhile, just about every other part of my bike was bought from Rivendell. Tires, saddle, bar, grips, bar end Silvers, brakes, fenders, double legger kickstand, multiple straps, a Saddlesack, and many of my favorite wardrobe items. Bar tape and one or two accessories weren't ordered from Riv, but are the brands sold there. There's twine wrapped in more than a few places. I've read, recommended, and loaned both the latest RBW catalog and *Just Ride.* A hatchet and some camping bits are likely to be ordered soon. Is there a component percentage or a ratio of parts by mass that determine how Rivvy a bike is? Now, I'm sure I can call myself an iBOB, but as Google Groups go, the tone here is more comfortable. No one will quibble if I lurk or occasionally suggest that if Riv describes a hunk-O-cheese as a good thing to put in a Sackville pannier, then cheese should be On Topic, but am I a Riv Owner? Not exactly, but I'd like to think that if I mailed a postcard to HQ, they'd reply with the same. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications
I'm pretty thrilled with the Esbit and use the titanium bowl that Riv offers to heat water. I also use a few wood matches leaning over the fuel pellet to give the flames a slightly wider disbursal (I hope that makes sense). Seems to work better that way. If you have high winds you may need some sort of wind break. Regards, Addison Wilhite, M.A. Academy of Arts, Careers and Technology http://www.washoecountyschools.org/aact/ *“Blazing the Trail to College and Career Success”* Educator: Professional Portfolio http://addisonwilhite.blogspot.com/ Blogger: Reno Rambler http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/ Bicycle Advocate: Regional Transportation Commission, Bicycle Pedestrian Advisory Committee http://www.rtcwashoe.com/public-transportation-22-124.html On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Mathew Greiner mathew.grei...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, all. I do enjoy the discussions here. For those sensitive to the whiff of neurosis or of an almost obnoxious admiration of Rivendell, well, that might be part of it, but I justified asking the question because it seemed like it might generate some interesting dialogue. As for how nice the Sackville Small Saddlesack is--it's very. I sometimes wish I'd gotten a medium or even a large, otherwise it's great. Though I haven't used it much lately, as the saddle mounting position interferes with the Trail-A-Bike my daughter is often on. Should I need the space, I figure I'll just strap it to my front rack. Also super happy with a set of Swift Mini-Rolltop Panniers. Just to drift off topic slightly, who has a favorite cheap way to heat water at camp? Just looking for coffee on the morning of S24o's. Small pack size is secondary to small price, but both are important. Esbit or Trangia? What is the water holding vessel? Is there a good bottle or pot that can nest in a campfire? Not real interested in a $100 water heater from MSR. . . On Saturday, June 21, 2014 11:02:29 PM UTC-5, Mathew Greiner wrote: I've been wondering lately, what percentage of my bike needs to originate at Rivendell to qualify as a real RBW Owner? Obviously, a frame will do the trick, but that's something I don't have have, and probably won't anytime real soon. Meanwhile, just about every other part of my bike was bought from Rivendell. Tires, saddle, bar, grips, bar end Silvers, brakes, fenders, double legger kickstand, multiple straps, a Saddlesack, and many of my favorite wardrobe items. Bar tape and one or two accessories weren't ordered from Riv, but are the brands sold there. There's twine wrapped in more than a few places. I've read, recommended, and loaned both the latest RBW catalog and *Just Ride.* A hatchet and some camping bits are likely to be ordered soon. Is there a component percentage or a ratio of parts by mass that determine how Rivvy a bike is? Now, I'm sure I can call myself an iBOB, but as Google Groups go, the tone here is more comfortable. No one will quibble if I lurk or occasionally suggest that if Riv describes a hunk-O-cheese as a good thing to put in a Sackville pannier, then cheese should be On Topic, but am I a Riv Owner? Not exactly, but I'd like to think that if I mailed a postcard to HQ, they'd reply with the same. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications
Gee . . . let me think . . .. ho hum ho hum . . . . If you are HERE . . . . you qualify :) This isn't rocket science ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications
On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 7:03:38 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote: yep, grant is the leader and we're all just followers. *b* ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications
Interesting, I read Grant as saying this works for me - if it helps you use it, but find your own path. On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Cecily Walker cecily.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 7:03:38 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote: yep, grant is the leader and we're all just followers. *b* ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications
yet here you remain On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 9:29:08 PM UTC-5, Robert Barr wrote: Interesting, I read Grant as saying this works for me - if it helps you use it, but find your own path. On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Cecily Walker cecily...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 7:03:38 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote: yep, grant is the leader and we're all just followers. *b* ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications
Now we're getting deep. :-) dougP On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 1:10:03 PM UTC-7, Garth wrote: Gee . . . let me think . . .. ho hum ho hum . . . . If you are HERE . . . . you qualify :) This isn't rocket science ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications
The thing which makes Riv owner such a broad title is that RBW has always been a company which sells parts and clothing and stuff that establishes a certain aesthetic and approach to cycling which is readily identifiable as Riv like. I've owned Riv frames in the past, and currently have an Heron - a Grant-designed collaboration with Ted Durant and Waterford from the late-90's - but I also can be seen on a strange little aluminum Dahon folder. Said folder carries a Brooks saddle and Rivendell saddle- and handlebar bags, and I ride it in relatively normal-looking clothes. My Dahon certainly isn't a Riv, but anyone who knows of Riv things and saw me coming on my Brooksed-and-bagged folder would instantly recognize me as a Riv owner. Tis what I think, anyway. Joe this might not work on the recumbent Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Saturday, June 21, 2014 9:02:29 PM UTC-7, Mathew Greiner wrote: I've been wondering lately, what percentage of my bike needs to originate at Rivendell to qualify as a real RBW Owner? Obviously, a frame will do the trick, but that's something I don't have have, and probably won't anytime real soon. Meanwhile, just about every other part of my bike was bought from Rivendell. Tires, saddle, bar, grips, bar end Silvers, brakes, fenders, double legger kickstand, multiple straps, a Saddlesack, and many of my favorite wardrobe items. Bar tape and one or two accessories weren't ordered from Riv, but are the brands sold there. There's twine wrapped in more than a few places. I've read, recommended, and loaned both the latest RBW catalog and *Just Ride.* A hatchet and some camping bits are likely to be ordered soon. Is there a component percentage or a ratio of parts by mass that determine how Rivvy a bike is? Now, I'm sure I can call myself an iBOB, but as Google Groups go, the tone here is more comfortable. No one will quibble if I lurk or occasionally suggest that if Riv describes a hunk-O-cheese as a good thing to put in a Sackville pannier, then cheese should be On Topic, but am I a Riv Owner? Not exactly, but I'd like to think that if I mailed a postcard to HQ, they'd reply with the same. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications
You certainly love Rivs and Rivendell. I was much the same way before I bought my first riv. I had/have a Jamis Aurora totally decked out with Riv stuff, but I didn't consider myself a Riv owner until I actually bought a Rivendell frame and put the bike together. I don't like labels at all, so I would consider you a Riv owner because of the saddlesack. Those bags are wonderful...aren't they? On Saturday, June 21, 2014 11:02:29 PM UTC-5, Mathew Greiner wrote: I've been wondering lately, what percentage of my bike needs to originate at Rivendell to qualify as a real RBW Owner? Obviously, a frame will do the trick, but that's something I don't have have, and probably won't anytime real soon. Meanwhile, just about every other part of my bike was bought from Rivendell. Tires, saddle, bar, grips, bar end Silvers, brakes, fenders, double legger kickstand, multiple straps, a Saddlesack, and many of my favorite wardrobe items. Bar tape and one or two accessories weren't ordered from Riv, but are the brands sold there. There's twine wrapped in more than a few places. I've read, recommended, and loaned both the latest RBW catalog and *Just Ride.* A hatchet and some camping bits are likely to be ordered soon. Is there a component percentage or a ratio of parts by mass that determine how Rivvy a bike is? Now, I'm sure I can call myself an iBOB, but as Google Groups go, the tone here is more comfortable. No one will quibble if I lurk or occasionally suggest that if Riv describes a hunk-O-cheese as a good thing to put in a Sackville pannier, then cheese should be On Topic, but am I a Riv Owner? Not exactly, but I'd like to think that if I mailed a postcard to HQ, they'd reply with the same. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications
Nutty enough to see value in Rivy stuff. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, June 23, 2014 5:45:04 AM UTC-6, RJM wrote: You certainly love Rivs and Rivendell. I was much the same way before I bought my first riv. I had/have a Jamis Aurora totally decked out with Riv stuff, but I didn't consider myself a Riv owner until I actually bought a Rivendell frame and put the bike together. I don't like labels at all, so I would consider you a Riv owner because of the saddlesack. Those bags are wonderful...aren't they? On Saturday, June 21, 2014 11:02:29 PM UTC-5, Mathew Greiner wrote: I've been wondering lately, what percentage of my bike needs to originate at Rivendell to qualify as a real RBW Owner? Obviously, a frame will do the trick, but that's something I don't have have, and probably won't anytime real soon. Meanwhile, just about every other part of my bike was bought from Rivendell. Tires, saddle, bar, grips, bar end Silvers, brakes, fenders, double legger kickstand, multiple straps, a Saddlesack, and many of my favorite wardrobe items. Bar tape and one or two accessories weren't ordered from Riv, but are the brands sold there. There's twine wrapped in more than a few places. I've read, recommended, and loaned both the latest RBW catalog and *Just Ride.* A hatchet and some camping bits are likely to be ordered soon. Is there a component percentage or a ratio of parts by mass that determine how Rivvy a bike is? Now, I'm sure I can call myself an iBOB, but as Google Groups go, the tone here is more comfortable. No one will quibble if I lurk or occasionally suggest that if Riv describes a hunk-O-cheese as a good thing to put in a Sackville pannier, then cheese should be On Topic, but am I a Riv Owner? Not exactly, but I'd like to think that if I mailed a postcard to HQ, they'd reply with the same. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications
Hey All, I say it's plenty good enough to ride something 'Riv inspired'. Smiles, Chris Redding, Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications
Matthew, I rode a Cannondale touring bike for some years and gradually added Riv bits when my wallet could afford them. I bought a B17, a seat post, some Nitto bottle cages, a stem and handlebars but I was soon dissatisfied and sent off for some other stems, handlebars, bar tape and somesuch. I got my LBS to make up some nice wheels for the widest tyres I could fit and then found a local stockist for the SKS mudguards(fenders). Then I realised what the problem really was and bought an Atlantis frame and forks. Now I've continued on this path changing all the driveline, upgrading to beautiful french stainless steel mudguards and the last bit left of the Cannondale is the brakes. I'm saving up for Pauls. I also have a Birdy folder and a Specialised Shark Sport beach cruiser as I live on a beach but they've both got Brooks. Riv is a state of mind. You've got that state of mind, the rest will come in time. In the meantime welcome and make yourself at home. George Millwood Atlantis No 93 Wollongong NSW Australia where it's winter now and a miserable 15 Celsius today, it'll be Saturday before it's back up to 20 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications
Matthew: You're way over-thinking this issue. We do a lot of that here. You're on the right track, so welcome to the group. dougP On Saturday, June 21, 2014 9:02:29 PM UTC-7, Mathew Greiner wrote: I've been wondering lately, what percentage of my bike needs to originate at Rivendell to qualify as a real RBW Owner? Obviously, a frame will do the trick, but that's something I don't have have, and probably won't anytime real soon. Meanwhile, just about every other part of my bike was bought from Rivendell. Tires, saddle, bar, grips, bar end Silvers, brakes, fenders, double legger kickstand, multiple straps, a Saddlesack, and many of my favorite wardrobe items. Bar tape and one or two accessories weren't ordered from Riv, but are the brands sold there. There's twine wrapped in more than a few places. I've read, recommended, and loaned both the latest RBW catalog and *Just Ride.* A hatchet and some camping bits are likely to be ordered soon. Is there a component percentage or a ratio of parts by mass that determine how Rivvy a bike is? Now, I'm sure I can call myself an iBOB, but as Google Groups go, the tone here is more comfortable. No one will quibble if I lurk or occasionally suggest that if Riv describes a hunk-O-cheese as a good thing to put in a Sackville pannier, then cheese should be On Topic, but am I a Riv Owner? Not exactly, but I'd like to think that if I mailed a postcard to HQ, they'd reply with the same. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications
this is a really nice place to play with toys in their yard. On Monday, June 23, 2014 10:38:23 AM UTC-5, dougP wrote: Matthew: You're way over-thinking this issue. We do a lot of that here. You're on the right track, so welcome to the group. dougP On Saturday, June 21, 2014 9:02:29 PM UTC-7, Mathew Greiner wrote: I've been wondering lately, what percentage of my bike needs to originate at Rivendell to qualify as a real RBW Owner? Obviously, a frame will do the trick, but that's something I don't have have, and probably won't anytime real soon. Meanwhile, just about every other part of my bike was bought from Rivendell. Tires, saddle, bar, grips, bar end Silvers, brakes, fenders, double legger kickstand, multiple straps, a Saddlesack, and many of my favorite wardrobe items. Bar tape and one or two accessories weren't ordered from Riv, but are the brands sold there. There's twine wrapped in more than a few places. I've read, recommended, and loaned both the latest RBW catalog and *Just Ride.* A hatchet and some camping bits are likely to be ordered soon. Is there a component percentage or a ratio of parts by mass that determine how Rivvy a bike is? Now, I'm sure I can call myself an iBOB, but as Google Groups go, the tone here is more comfortable. No one will quibble if I lurk or occasionally suggest that if Riv describes a hunk-O-cheese as a good thing to put in a Sackville pannier, then cheese should be On Topic, but am I a Riv Owner? Not exactly, but I'd like to think that if I mailed a postcard to HQ, they'd reply with the same. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications
My opinion is that you must own a RBW branded frame to be an RBW owner. By my definition, the San Marcos doesn't qualify. No amount of parts will make a non-RBW branded frame a Rivendell. I'd love to test ride a Riv and possibly own one but even if I don't, I still agree with a lot of RBW's views and I want to support Grant as much as possible. On Saturday, June 21, 2014 11:02:29 PM UTC-5, Mathew Greiner wrote: I've been wondering lately, what percentage of my bike needs to originate at Rivendell to qualify as a real RBW Owner? Obviously, a frame will do the trick, but that's something I don't have have, and probably won't anytime real soon. Meanwhile, just about every other part of my bike was bought from Rivendell. Tires, saddle, bar, grips, bar end Silvers, brakes, fenders, double legger kickstand, multiple straps, a Saddlesack, and many of my favorite wardrobe items. Bar tape and one or two accessories weren't ordered from Riv, but are the brands sold there. There's twine wrapped in more than a few places. I've read, recommended, and loaned both the latest RBW catalog and *Just Ride.* A hatchet and some camping bits are likely to be ordered soon. Is there a component percentage or a ratio of parts by mass that determine how Rivvy a bike is? Now, I'm sure I can call myself an iBOB, but as Google Groups go, the tone here is more comfortable. No one will quibble if I lurk or occasionally suggest that if Riv describes a hunk-O-cheese as a good thing to put in a Sackville pannier, then cheese should be On Topic, but am I a Riv Owner? Not exactly, but I'd like to think that if I mailed a postcard to HQ, they'd reply with the same. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications
Dude, you can buy a San Marcos* from Riv, with Riv parts installed by Riv people, and packed by those same people in a Riv box.* It's a Rivendell. JB On Monday, June 23, 2014 10:56:25 AM UTC-7, Chris Lampe 2 wrote: My opinion is that you must own a RBW branded frame to be an RBW owner. By my definition, the San Marcos doesn't qualify. No amount of parts will make a non-RBW branded frame a Rivendell. I'd love to test ride a Riv and possibly own one but even if I don't, I still agree with a lot of RBW's views and I want to support Grant as much as possible. On Saturday, June 21, 2014 11:02:29 PM UTC-5, Mathew Greiner wrote: I've been wondering lately, what percentage of my bike needs to originate at Rivendell to qualify as a real RBW Owner? Obviously, a frame will do the trick, but that's something I don't have have, and probably won't anytime real soon. Meanwhile, just about every other part of my bike was bought from Rivendell. Tires, saddle, bar, grips, bar end Silvers, brakes, fenders, double legger kickstand, multiple straps, a Saddlesack, and many of my favorite wardrobe items. Bar tape and one or two accessories weren't ordered from Riv, but are the brands sold there. There's twine wrapped in more than a few places. I've read, recommended, and loaned both the latest RBW catalog and *Just Ride.* A hatchet and some camping bits are likely to be ordered soon. Is there a component percentage or a ratio of parts by mass that determine how Rivvy a bike is? Now, I'm sure I can call myself an iBOB, but as Google Groups go, the tone here is more comfortable. No one will quibble if I lurk or occasionally suggest that if Riv describes a hunk-O-cheese as a good thing to put in a Sackville pannier, then cheese should be On Topic, but am I a Riv Owner? Not exactly, but I'd like to think that if I mailed a postcard to HQ, they'd reply with the same. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications
But in the end it's a Soma bike. No value judgement on that BTW. It's just you can't call it a Rivendell SM. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: Dude, you can buy a San Marcos* from Riv, with Riv parts installed by Riv people, and packed by those same people in a Riv box.* It's a Rivendell. JB On Monday, June 23, 2014 10:56:25 AM UTC-7, Chris Lampe 2 wrote: My opinion is that you must own a RBW branded frame to be an RBW owner. By my definition, the San Marcos doesn't qualify. No amount of parts will make a non-RBW branded frame a Rivendell. I'd love to test ride a Riv and possibly own one but even if I don't, I still agree with a lot of RBW's views and I want to support Grant as much as possible. On Saturday, June 21, 2014 11:02:29 PM UTC-5, Mathew Greiner wrote: I've been wondering lately, what percentage of my bike needs to originate at Rivendell to qualify as a real RBW Owner? Obviously, a frame will do the trick, but that's something I don't have have, and probably won't anytime real soon. Meanwhile, just about every other part of my bike was bought from Rivendell. Tires, saddle, bar, grips, bar end Silvers, brakes, fenders, double legger kickstand, multiple straps, a Saddlesack, and many of my favorite wardrobe items. Bar tape and one or two accessories weren't ordered from Riv, but are the brands sold there. There's twine wrapped in more than a few places. I've read, recommended, and loaned both the latest RBW catalog and *Just Ride.* A hatchet and some camping bits are likely to be ordered soon. Is there a component percentage or a ratio of parts by mass that determine how Rivvy a bike is? Now, I'm sure I can call myself an iBOB, but as Google Groups go, the tone here is more comfortable. No one will quibble if I lurk or occasionally suggest that if Riv describes a hunk-O-cheese as a good thing to put in a Sackville pannier, then cheese should be On Topic, but am I a Riv Owner? Not exactly, but I'd like to think that if I mailed a postcard to HQ, they'd reply with the same. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications
Surely this is the sort of hair splitting that is anathema to this group.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications
Agreed, all are welcome, even jerks like me. On Jun 23, 2014 10:54 PM, George Millwood george.millw...@bigpond.com wrote: Surely this is the sort of hair splitting that is anathema to this group.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications
Everyone loves a pedant. No, wait... Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 7:59 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed, all are welcome, even jerks like me. On Jun 23, 2014 10:54 PM, George Millwood george.millw...@bigpond.com wrote: Surely this is the sort of hair splitting that is anathema to this group.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications
If Herons are RBW bikes then the Soma bike is inside the bubble as well. RBW lugs. RBW geometry. Sold by RBW. On Jun 23, 2014, at 5:51 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: But in the end it's a Soma bike. No value judgement on that BTW. It's just you can't call it a Rivendell SM. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: Dude, you can buy a San Marcos from Riv, with Riv parts installed by Riv people, and packed by those same people in a Riv box. It's a Rivendell. JB On Monday, June 23, 2014 10:56:25 AM UTC-7, Chris Lampe 2 wrote: My opinion is that you must own a RBW branded frame to be an RBW owner. By my definition, the San Marcos doesn't qualify. No amount of parts will make a non-RBW branded frame a Rivendell. I'd love to test ride a Riv and possibly own one but even if I don't, I still agree with a lot of RBW's views and I want to support Grant as much as possible. On Saturday, June 21, 2014 11:02:29 PM UTC-5, Mathew Greiner wrote: I've been wondering lately, what percentage of my bike needs to originate at Rivendell to qualify as a real RBW Owner? Obviously, a frame will do the trick, but that's something I don't have have, and probably won't anytime real soon. Meanwhile, just about every other part of my bike was bought from Rivendell. Tires, saddle, bar, grips, bar end Silvers, brakes, fenders, double legger kickstand, multiple straps, a Saddlesack, and many of my favorite wardrobe items. Bar tape and one or two accessories weren't ordered from Riv, but are the brands sold there. There's twine wrapped in more than a few places. I've read, recommended, and loaned both the latest RBW catalog and Just Ride. A hatchet and some camping bits are likely to be ordered soon. Is there a component percentage or a ratio of parts by mass that determine how Rivvy a bike is? Now, I'm sure I can call myself an iBOB, but as Google Groups go, the tone here is more comfortable. No one will quibble if I lurk or occasionally suggest that if Riv describes a hunk-O-cheese as a good thing to put in a Sackville pannier, then cheese should be On Topic, but am I a Riv Owner? Not exactly, but I'd like to think that if I mailed a postcard to HQ, they'd reply with the same. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications
It's more of a philosophy than owning the actual frame or parts or combination of parts to me. I always looked at the RBW owner as first and foremost someone who likes to ride very versatile bikes and ride them for the enjoyment and adventure of riding and being outside. Echoing all the other posts, I Riv'd out a few bikes before I finally got a true Rivendell frame. The actual Rivendell I now have is awesome, nothing to compare it to. But that still hasn't stopped me from continuing to Riv out my other non-Riv bikes. Slap a brooks saddle on Soma, Surly, or any new or old steel bike and I'll give you the nod ;) On Saturday, June 21, 2014 9:02:29 PM UTC-7, Mathew Greiner wrote: I've been wondering lately, what percentage of my bike needs to originate at Rivendell to qualify as a real RBW Owner? Obviously, a frame will do the trick, but that's something I don't have have, and probably won't anytime real soon. Meanwhile, just about every other part of my bike was bought from Rivendell. Tires, saddle, bar, grips, bar end Silvers, brakes, fenders, double legger kickstand, multiple straps, a Saddlesack, and many of my favorite wardrobe items. Bar tape and one or two accessories weren't ordered from Riv, but are the brands sold there. There's twine wrapped in more than a few places. I've read, recommended, and loaned both the latest RBW catalog and *Just Ride.* A hatchet and some camping bits are likely to be ordered soon. Is there a component percentage or a ratio of parts by mass that determine how Rivvy a bike is? Now, I'm sure I can call myself an iBOB, but as Google Groups go, the tone here is more comfortable. No one will quibble if I lurk or occasionally suggest that if Riv describes a hunk-O-cheese as a good thing to put in a Sackville pannier, then cheese should be On Topic, but am I a Riv Owner? Not exactly, but I'd like to think that if I mailed a postcard to HQ, they'd reply with the same. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications
Mathew: Excellent first post. You've stirred the bubbling pot. Sometimes things get a bit slow in summer when people are spending more time on their bikes. dougP On Saturday, June 21, 2014 9:02:29 PM UTC-7, Mathew Greiner wrote: I've been wondering lately, what percentage of my bike needs to originate at Rivendell to qualify as a real RBW Owner? Obviously, a frame will do the trick, but that's something I don't have have, and probably won't anytime real soon. Meanwhile, just about every other part of my bike was bought from Rivendell. Tires, saddle, bar, grips, bar end Silvers, brakes, fenders, double legger kickstand, multiple straps, a Saddlesack, and many of my favorite wardrobe items. Bar tape and one or two accessories weren't ordered from Riv, but are the brands sold there. There's twine wrapped in more than a few places. I've read, recommended, and loaned both the latest RBW catalog and *Just Ride.* A hatchet and some camping bits are likely to be ordered soon. Is there a component percentage or a ratio of parts by mass that determine how Rivvy a bike is? Now, I'm sure I can call myself an iBOB, but as Google Groups go, the tone here is more comfortable. No one will quibble if I lurk or occasionally suggest that if Riv describes a hunk-O-cheese as a good thing to put in a Sackville pannier, then cheese should be On Topic, but am I a Riv Owner? Not exactly, but I'd like to think that if I mailed a postcard to HQ, they'd reply with the same. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications
Hey there Matthew - There's never been a litmus test. Or a percentage. Just an interest to engage in polite discussion is all that is needed. The topics here are definitely narrower than other lists, by design and agreement. But the tone and quality of this group comes entirely from the folks who share their stories, knowledge, questions and photographs. We are all lucky to have found one another. Welcome and enjoy the discussions! - JIm / list admin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.