[RBW] Re: Roadini pics with saddle height? - 61cm and 57cm frames?

2017-12-11 Thread Jeremy Till
I rode the 61cm Roadini demo at Riv HQ a few weeks ago.  No pictures 
(sorry!) but I did set the saddle right right around 80cm, which is my 
preferred.  It looked like it would be perfect for a level saddle-bars 
relationship, you probably wouldn't even have to use a Technomic.  There 
was a technomic on the demo set well above my saddle height but I didn't 
mess with it, when in Rome...  It was a wonderfully riding bike and had me 
pining, but then again, pretty much any bike there will do that for me.  

On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 12:09:01 PM UTC-8, Bob Lovejoy wrote:
>
> Joe,
>
> I do tend to agree... And your custom and Legolas are set-up just 
> perfectly to my eyes.  Not that I am set on the Roadini, but I know some of 
> the pictures make it look like the head tube allows the bars to end up 
> pretty high by design, a great thing, at least within reason.  That said, I 
> would not want to have to completely slam the stem on a 61 to get the bars 
> level or maybe just slightly below saddle height.  Someone here once said 
> that they were completely confident in Riv's sizing recommendations as long 
> as they fell near the middle of those recommendations and I do see the 
> wisdom of that.  
>
> Lum Gim Fong's suggestion about asking someone at RBW to take a picture of 
> a 61cm Roadini with a saddle height set to 78-79 and level bars is a good 
> idea.  
>
> I will have a little credit built up at some point (with Riv), so 
> potential projects are being considered.  I suspect the potential project 
> will take a different turn but a good and less-slow road bike would be a 
> worthy addition to my more usual utility and load carrying builds.
>
> Thanks for the help!
>
> Bob
>
>
> On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 12:32:15 PM UTC-6, Mojo wrote:
>>
>> Bob, I too have a 89cm PBH. I cannot imagine why we would choose to ride 
>> a 57cm. When I ordered a custom road frame, Grant put me on a 61.5cm. Here 
>> it is many years ago with the handlebars at saddle height. 
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/6897752730/in/album-72157607471577085/
>> When I bought a Legolas, I chose a 62cm frame.  
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/5598979996/in/album-72157607471577085/
>> A 60cm Quickbeam looks like this
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/2760281945/in/album-72157607471577085/
>> A 58cm frame with a completely flat top tube but a 2cm head tube 
>> extension looks like this. 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/5265783630/in/album-72157607471577085/
>>
>> Joe in GJT
>>
>>
>> On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 10:31:07 AM UTC-7, Bob Lovejoy wrote:
>>
>>> I am right at the transition point between the 57cm and 61cm Roadini's 
>>> (PBH 89cm, seat height 78-79 depending on shoes).
>>>
>>> Can someone point me to pictures of a 61cm Roadini that has the saddle 
>>> height (as pictured) listed?  I suppose the same goes for pictures of a 
>>> 57cm version, though I have seen some pictures posted and those have been 
>>> helpful.  
>>>
>>> I tend to choose and ride frames on the larger side of any 
>>> recommendations, as I am used to it and also prefer a mostly level 
>>> saddle-to-bars relationship without being crazy with seat post or stem. 
>>>  That said, the relatively higher head tube on the Roadini has me thinking. 
>>>
>>> I will go back and study the geometry diagrams again but any pictures of 
>>> builds would be helpful.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any and all help,
>>>
>>> Bob Lovejoy
>>> Galesburg, IL
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Roadini pics with saddle height? - 61cm and 57cm frames?

2017-12-08 Thread Bob Lovejoy
Joe,

I do tend to agree... And your custom and Legolas are set-up just perfectly 
to my eyes.  Not that I am set on the Roadini, but I know some of the 
pictures make it look like the head tube allows the bars to end up pretty 
high by design, a great thing, at least within reason.  That said, I would 
not want to have to completely slam the stem on a 61 to get the bars level 
or maybe just slightly below saddle height.  Someone here once said that 
they were completely confident in Riv's sizing recommendations as long as 
they fell near the middle of those recommendations and I do see the wisdom 
of that.  

Lum Gim Fong's suggestion about asking someone at RBW to take a picture of 
a 61cm Roadini with a saddle height set to 78-79 and level bars is a good 
idea.  

I will have a little credit built up at some point (with Riv), so potential 
projects are being considered.  I suspect the potential project will take a 
different turn but a good and less-slow road bike would be a worthy 
addition to my more usual utility and load carrying builds.

Thanks for the help!

Bob


On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 12:32:15 PM UTC-6, Mojo wrote:
>
> Bob, I too have a 89cm PBH. I cannot imagine why we would choose to ride a 
> 57cm. When I ordered a custom road frame, Grant put me on a 61.5cm. Here it 
> is many years ago with the handlebars at saddle height. 
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/6897752730/in/album-72157607471577085/
> When I bought a Legolas, I chose a 62cm frame.  
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/5598979996/in/album-72157607471577085/
> A 60cm Quickbeam looks like this
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/2760281945/in/album-72157607471577085/
> A 58cm frame with a completely flat top tube but a 2cm head tube extension 
> looks like this. 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/5265783630/in/album-72157607471577085/
>
> Joe in GJT
>
>
> On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 10:31:07 AM UTC-7, Bob Lovejoy wrote:
>
>> I am right at the transition point between the 57cm and 61cm Roadini's 
>> (PBH 89cm, seat height 78-79 depending on shoes).
>>
>> Can someone point me to pictures of a 61cm Roadini that has the saddle 
>> height (as pictured) listed?  I suppose the same goes for pictures of a 
>> 57cm version, though I have seen some pictures posted and those have been 
>> helpful.  
>>
>> I tend to choose and ride frames on the larger side of any 
>> recommendations, as I am used to it and also prefer a mostly level 
>> saddle-to-bars relationship without being crazy with seat post or stem. 
>>  That said, the relatively higher head tube on the Roadini has me thinking. 
>>
>> I will go back and study the geometry diagrams again but any pictures of 
>> builds would be helpful.
>>
>> Thanks for any and all help,
>>
>> Bob Lovejoy
>> Galesburg, IL
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Roadini pics with saddle height? - 61cm and 57cm frames?

2017-12-08 Thread lum gim fong
If RBW has one they will set it up and email you a pic. They did it for me on a 
Sam before i bought one.

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[RBW] Re: Roadini pics with saddle height? - 61cm and 57cm frames?

2017-12-08 Thread 'Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch
Bob, I too have a 89cm PBH. I cannot imagine why we would choose to ride a 
57cm. When I ordered a custom road frame, Grant put me on a 61.5cm. Here it 
is many years ago with the handlebars at saddle height. 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/6897752730/in/album-72157607471577085/
When I bought a Legolas, I chose a 62cm frame.  
https://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/5598979996/in/album-72157607471577085/
A 60cm Quickbeam looks like this
https://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/2760281945/in/album-72157607471577085/
A 58cm frame with a completely flat top tube but a 2cm head tube extension 
looks like 
this. 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/5265783630/in/album-72157607471577085/

Joe in GJT


On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 10:31:07 AM UTC-7, Bob Lovejoy wrote:

> I am right at the transition point between the 57cm and 61cm Roadini's 
> (PBH 89cm, seat height 78-79 depending on shoes).
>
> Can someone point me to pictures of a 61cm Roadini that has the saddle 
> height (as pictured) listed?  I suppose the same goes for pictures of a 
> 57cm version, though I have seen some pictures posted and those have been 
> helpful.  
>
> I tend to choose and ride frames on the larger side of any 
> recommendations, as I am used to it and also prefer a mostly level 
> saddle-to-bars relationship without being crazy with seat post or stem. 
>  That said, the relatively higher head tube on the Roadini has me thinking. 
>
> I will go back and study the geometry diagrams again but any pictures of 
> builds would be helpful.
>
> Thanks for any and all help,
>
> Bob Lovejoy
> Galesburg, IL
>

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