[RBW] Re: Seen on My instagram: 700x55 Compass slicks

2018-04-11 Thread Jon BALER
Wonder how they will compare to the schwable big ones that are roughly the same 
size.   Can't imagine they could be much lighter than those. 

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[RBW] Re: Seen on My instagram: 700x55 Compass slicks

2018-04-11 Thread iamkeith
I'm just guessing like everybody else of course, but I can't imagine this 
not fitting on the Atlantis or even Tim's Appaloosa.   The Rat Trap Pass 
comes in at quite a bit under the labeled size so, if the same hold true 
here, it shouldn't even be close.  

The Hunquapillar and Clem, on the other hand, easily fit the even-larger 
but similarly-targeted schwalbe super moto/big one/g-one.  To me, the 
existence of that tire is what makes this one curious indeed.  As noted by 
others, there's a relatively small, niche set of bikes that could use it.  
Even though I have the schwalbes and am happy with them, I strangely feel 
almost obligated to buy this tire at some point, just to reward Compass for 
doing such cool stuff.  

On Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 1:51:17 PM UTC-6, ctifusion wrote:
>
> I've had Compass on three bikes and I can't imagine buying any other tire 
> (except maybe for a total city workhorse/grocery getter). This will fit on 
> the new Atlantis and other RIv bikes with the 2.2 / 55cm clearance?
>
> Brynnar
> Indy
>
> On Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 12:32:36 PM UTC-4, Tim Bantham wrote:
>>
>> I am a big believer in Compass tires now that I have spent some time with 
>> the Barlow Pass on my Sam. I was initially really excited to see the 700x55 
>> version coming out but I now wonder if they will even fit my Appaloosa. I 
>> think the Atlantis and Hunqapillar clearances are a little more generous. I 
>> will definitely buy them if I discover that they will fit my bike 
>
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[RBW] Re: Seen on My instagram: 700x55 Compass slicks

2018-04-11 Thread ctifusion
I've had Compass on three bikes and I can't imagine buying any other tire 
(except maybe for a total city workhorse/grocery getter). This will fit on 
the new Atlantis and other RIv bikes with the 2.2 / 55cm clearance?

Brynnar
Indy

On Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 12:32:36 PM UTC-4, Tim Bantham wrote:
>
> I am a big believer in Compass tires now that I have spent some time with 
> the Barlow Pass on my Sam. I was initially really excited to see the 700x55 
> version coming out but I now wonder if they will even fit my Appaloosa. I 
> think the Atlantis and Hunqapillar clearances are a little more generous. I 
> will definitely buy them if I discover that they will fit my bike 

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[RBW] Re: Seen on My instagram: 700x55 Compass slicks

2018-04-11 Thread Tim Bantham
I am a big believer in Compass tires now that I have spent some time with the 
Barlow Pass on my Sam. I was initially really excited to see the 700x55 version 
coming out but I now wonder if they will even fit my Appaloosa. I think the 
Atlantis and Hunqapillar clearances are a little more generous. I will 
definitely buy them if I discover that they will fit my bike 

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[RBW] Re: Seen on My instagram: 700x55 Compass slicks

2018-04-10 Thread Zach Roeder
I kinda doubt his views have changed on what is optimal for his style of 
riding, but I know that some folks on the internet have been asking for this 
tire. Also, check out how many different 700c sizes are available. Maybe he 
wants folks to be able to run the fattest supple rubber they can squeeze into 
their less-than-optimal frames. All speculation of course!

It definitely is a funny size. Too big for most monstercross frames (assuming 
the tire measures true to size), kinda small for a 29er.  I see folks around 
here bringing 29ers for gravel rides, so maybe that’s the target audience? In 
the Riv world, pretty exciting for the Hunq and maybe the Atlantis and Joe. 
Definitely superniche. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Seen on My instagram: 700x55 Compass slicks

2018-04-10 Thread Patrick Moore
I think it's simply that his market demands this sort of tire. And I think
that there is a rather big demand for fat, supple 29er tires; I predict
these will be best sellers.

I both agree and disagree with Jan's views on wheel size, tire width, and
handling, meaning that "optimum" in reference to handling is a word that
has to accommodate so many different preferences. I can certainly tell the
difference between a 26er with light 55 mm tires, and my Matthews with 29
1/2" tall, 61mm actually wide tires; but given that these last seem to me
to handle sand (and small bumps too) better (Jan disagrees), I choose the
less nimble handling larger wheels, and find that these are really not bad
at all.

On the other extreme: very light, 24 3/4" (559 X 29mm) wheels on my Riv
Roads: is the handling of these wheels less "optimum" than 650B X 42?
Perhaps to some riders; perhaps even generally, in some theoretical way;
but in my own experience over very many different bikes over almost 50
years of assembling or modifying (and certainly buying and flipping) my
own, they set a benchmark for good handling -- Grant designed the frames to
accommodate such light and short wheels.

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 9:54 AM, Kieran J  wrote:

> He certainly did say that at some point. I think that was even prior to
> the 700x44 came out. Maybe his views have changed.
>
> Apart from Rivs and monstercross-type bikes, what else would these tires
> go on? 29ers? Seems like a very niche-within-niche product.
>
> KJ
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 7:25:57 AM UTC-7, John Phillips wrote:
>>
>> I'm really excited about these new tires, but I thought Jan believed 700c
>> tires this wide were less than optimal. Has he said anything about changing
>> his view, or am I just completely confused and off base here?
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 6:14:34 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>> Compass posted a photo of a 700x55 Antelope Pass road tire. The post
>>> called it a prototype currently under test. That’s going to be an exciting
>>> option for many. Who’s going to put them on their Hunqapillar first?
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito Ca
>>
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[RBW] Re: Seen on My instagram: 700x55 Compass slicks

2018-04-10 Thread Kieran J
He certainly did say that at some point. I think that was even prior to the 
700x44 came out. Maybe his views have changed.

Apart from Rivs and monstercross-type bikes, what else would these tires go 
on? 29ers? Seems like a very niche-within-niche product. 

KJ


On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 7:25:57 AM UTC-7, John Phillips wrote:
>
> I'm really excited about these new tires, but I thought Jan believed 700c 
> tires this wide were less than optimal. Has he said anything about changing 
> his view, or am I just completely confused and off base here?
>
> John 
>
> On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 6:14:34 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> Compass posted a photo of a 700x55 Antelope Pass road tire. The post 
>> called it a prototype currently under test. That’s going to be an exciting 
>> option for many. Who’s going to put them on their Hunqapillar first?   
>>
>> Bill Lindsay 
>> El Cerrito Ca
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Seen on My instagram: 700x55 Compass slicks

2018-04-10 Thread John Phillips
I'm really excited about these new tires, but I thought Jan believed 700c 
tires this wide were less than optimal. Has he said anything about changing 
his view, or am I just completely confused and off base here?

John 

On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 6:14:34 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Compass posted a photo of a 700x55 Antelope Pass road tire. The post 
> called it a prototype currently under test. That’s going to be an exciting 
> option for many. Who’s going to put them on their Hunqapillar first?   
>
> Bill Lindsay 
> El Cerrito Ca

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[RBW] Re: Seen on My instagram: 700x55 Compass slicks

2018-04-09 Thread William R.
Edwin: you won’t regret it. The Snoq’s are great on my Joe. Wear em out while 
we wait for this new size!

Bill in Westchester, NY

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[RBW] Re: Seen on My instagram: 700x55 Compass slicks

2018-04-09 Thread Edwin W
And I JUST got a pair of Snoqualmie pass for my Joe Appa. Well, I guess 
I'll just have to ride them for a few thousand miles and see how they do 
before I upgrade.

Edwin

On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 8:14:34 AM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Compass posted a photo of a 700x55 Antelope Pass road tire. The post 
> called it a prototype currently under test. That’s going to be an exciting 
> option for many. Who’s going to put them on their Hunqapillar first?   
>
> Bill Lindsay 
> El Cerrito Ca

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Re: [RBW] Re: Seen on My instagram: 700x55 Compass slicks

2018-04-09 Thread Patrick Moore
Well, it seems you do miss some things when you forgo social media. I'll be
interested when a description (and a photo! I wonder if it will seem as
pneumatic as the Rat Trap Pass?) appears on more retrograde platforms.

Jan mentioned a tire like this some time ago, but when I inquired late last
year about any forthcoming >=50 mm Compass tire, I got no response, so I
went ahead and bought some Big Ones. I'd almost be disappointed, were the
Big Ones not so delightful (one rolldown test showed the BOs faster than
the road tires tested, and this with tubes). But I'd be interested to learn
more about the Compass 29er tire

On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 7:40 AM, John Phillips  wrote:

> 700 x 55 Compass tires?!?! Oh my Lord, heaven on earth!
>
> Maybe 700 x 55mm Compass knobbies are in the works?
>
> John
>
> On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 6:14:34 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> Compass posted a photo of a 700x55 Antelope Pass road tire. The post
>> called it a prototype currently under test. That’s going to be an exciting
>> option for many. Who’s going to put them on their Hunqapillar first?
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito Ca
>
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[RBW] Re: Seen on My instagram: 700x55 Compass slicks

2018-04-09 Thread John Phillips
700 x 55 Compass tires?!?! Oh my Lord, heaven on earth!

Maybe 700 x 55mm Compass knobbies are in the works?

John

On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 6:14:34 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Compass posted a photo of a 700x55 Antelope Pass road tire. The post 
> called it a prototype currently under test. That’s going to be an exciting 
> option for many. Who’s going to put them on their Hunqapillar first?   
>
> Bill Lindsay 
> El Cerrito Ca

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