Re: [RBW] Re: Silent bell until needed/Using a bell

[masmojo]

I rode mostly around town, it's rarely quiet enough that I would notice any 
bell "humming" even out on a deserted trail, between the derailleur click and 
tire contact noise bell vibration would not be a distraction at all as long as 
you were using a bell with a trigger. I like the Crane bells with the spring 
for around town, aside from a very loud, clear sound they also tell me when my 
tires are over inflated! Too much air & the bell rings by itself over any 
little bump! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Silent bell until needed/Using a bell

[Ron Mc]

I can vouch for Tim, I hear the voices in his head, too.  

On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 10:07:44 PM UTC-6, Tim wrote:
>
> On the other hand, the voices in my head may be drowning out the hum of 
> the bell :-)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Silent bell until needed/Using a bell

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

On the other hand, the voices in my head may be drowning out the hum of the 
bell :-)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Silent bell until needed/Using a bell

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I think I'm fairly sensitive to extra noise on my bike. I have Crane bells from 
Riv and I have not noticed any hum or jingle to them while riding on rough 
roads or on the little bit of gravel I ride. I'd give them a try. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Silent bell until needed/Using a bell

[Ron Mc]

I had a conversation with a lady one day whose black thin yo-yo leash was 
more than corner-to-corner across a greenway intersection.  It was 
invisible.  
Next time I saw her, it wasn't any shorter, but had a bright colored boa 
running from the dog.  
Yo-yo leashes are supposed to be outlawed on greenways, but it's not 
enforced.  

On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 8:29:35 PM UTC-6, GAJett wrote:
>
> My excitement was with a dog not off-leash.  Instead the dog was on one of 
> those leashes on a reel that allow them to be 10 or 12 feet away from the 
> owner.  Came around a nearly blind corner (having slowed anyway out of 
> caution) and there was the dog on one side of the trail, the owner on the 
> other, and the leash tight between.  Got stopped OK, then the owner yelled 
> at the "dumb" dog. (Hint: It's not the dog that's dumb.)  Owner never said 
> a word to me.  Could have  been really ugly if I was going faster.
> Cheers.
>
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 9:34:10 AM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:
>>
>> Anecdote from a ride a few days ago: I was riding behind another cyclist 
>> who I didn't know. Ahead of us, a man was walking his dog off leash. The 
>> dog decided to walk across the bike trail into our path, forcing us to 
>> brake quickly to slow down. The guy ahead of me on the bike then decided 
>> that he needed to stop altogether so that he could chastise the dog owner 
>> ... making an already bad situation even worse. I had to veer to avoid 
>> running into him, the walker, and the dog.
>>
>> --Eric N
>> www.CampyOnly.com
>> CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com
>> Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Silent bell until needed/Using a bell

[GAJett]

My excitement was with a dog not off-leash.  Instead the dog was on one of 
those leashes on a reel that allow them to be 10 or 12 feet away from the 
owner.  Came around a nearly blind corner (having slowed anyway out of 
caution) and there was the dog on one side of the trail, the owner on the 
other, and the leash tight between.  Got stopped OK, then the owner yelled 
at the "dumb" dog. (Hint: It's not the dog that's dumb.)  Owner never said 
a word to me.  Could have  been really ugly if I was going faster.
Cheers.

On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 9:34:10 AM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> Anecdote from a ride a few days ago: I was riding behind another cyclist 
> who I didn't know. Ahead of us, a man was walking his dog off leash. The 
> dog decided to walk across the bike trail into our path, forcing us to 
> brake quickly to slow down. The guy ahead of me on the bike then decided 
> that he needed to stop altogether so that he could chastise the dog owner 
> ... making an already bad situation even worse. I had to veer to avoid 
> running into him, the walker, and the dog.
>
> --Eric N
> www.CampyOnly.com
> CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com
> Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Silent bell until needed/Using a bell

[Eric Norris]

+1 on the spring-mounted strikers making noise all the time. I have found that 
bells with the "trigger" style strikers stay quiet (to my ears) until I use 
them.

Regarding using bells and/or calling out on the bike trail ... I use a bell, 
and over time I've reduced my bell-ringing to those cases where I think the 
pedestrian/runner/cyclist ahead of me seems to be on the verge of doing 
something dumb (e.g., veering into my path). If there's nobody coming from the 
other direction and I have room to ride around the person(s) ahead of me, I 
just ride around.

Bell-ringing, in my experience, is helpful about half the time. People hear the 
bell and either walk/ride a little farther to the right or stop drifting to the 
left. 

The other half of the time, they either don't hear it or ignore it. I'm always 
amazed at people who walk in groups, sometimes three across, taking up the 
entire bike lane with the backs to bikes riding toward them in the same lane 
... ignoring (on my local bike trail) the signs that tell them to walk *off* 
the trail on the *left* side. I've given up trying to teach these people the 
rules, opting instead to get around and away from them as quickly and safely as 
possible and continue with my ride.

Anecdote from a ride a few days ago: I was riding behind another cyclist who I 
didn't know. Ahead of us, a man was walking his dog off leash. The dog decided 
to walk across the bike trail into our path, forcing us to brake quickly to 
slow down. The guy ahead of me on the bike then decided that he needed to stop 
altogether so that he could chastise the dog owner ... making an already bad 
situation even worse. I had to veer to avoid running into him, the walker, and 
the dog.

--Eric N
www.CampyOnly.com
CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com
Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy

> On Dec 28, 2016, at 9:11 AM, ted  wrote:
> 
> It's quite possible that you are more aware of this than I am, what are you 
> using that you find hums? 
> That said, I find that the hammer strike bells that RBW sells stay quiet when 
> not needed, and the spring mounted striker style (bell 26) that RBW also 
> sells brings incessantly for moderate combinations of rough terrain, and 
> firmer tire pressure.
> I've also been very happy with a Crane E-ne bell thats much like the 
> Spurcycle.
> 
>> On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 8:38:22 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>> Bells are designed to reverberate. They take the vibration of a ride, even 
>> when not intended to be rung, and “hum.” Anyone have suggestions for the 
>> most silent, stealth bell you’ve experienced, there when you need it, uterly 
>> silent when you don't? 
>> 
>> With abandon, 
>> Patrick 
>> 
>> www.OurHolyConception.org 
>> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org 
>> 
>> 
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