[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters on Shimano barend pods

2020-03-30 Thread Bones
Thanks for the input. I’ve never used either much, and I’ve been riding single 
speed an awful lot the past few years, so I think I’d lean toward downtube 
shifting for the simplicity of it.

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[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters on Shimano barend pods

2020-03-30 Thread lambbo
Bones, I just took the front bar-end silver shifter off the bar (Shimano) 
and put it on the down tube, where the front shifter already was...it 
honestly feels like it shifts better, for whatever reason, and it's just so 
nice on the Roadini to have the bars less messy.  My vote is downtube!

On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 12:04:21 PM UTC-4, Bones wrote:
>
> Semi-related: anyone have any luck mounting the new silver 2 shifters to a 
> quill stem shifter mount? When I called Riv they weren’t sure, I guess they 
> haven’t tried that yet. They mentioned that the older silver shifters work 
> fine that way though. I’m contemplating doing downtube shifters or quill 
> mount on my new Roadini when it comes in...
>
> On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 6:52:01 PM UTC-4, Mike Blackwell wrote:
>>
>> I'm replacing the worn out circa ~2000 Shimano barend shifters (DuraAce I 
>> think) on my Redwood with Silver 2's. I was thinking I could keep the 
>> Shimano bar pods and just swap out the shifters, but now I'm not sure sure. 
>> I've attached a picture of what I have (Silver 2 on top, Shimano on bottom).
>>
>> Looking at just the left side - the Silver 2 comes with a smaller normal 
>> flat washer and a larger flat washer with a square hole and a tab sticking 
>> out. The old Shimano shifter has a spacer with some intricate internal 
>> structure.
>>
>> To get the spacing right, so the Silver 2 shifter cable exit aligns with 
>> the bar pod cable retainer it seems like I need to use the Shimano spacer. 
>> The big Silver 2 washer (with square hole and tab) doesn't seem to fit 
>> anywhere, I assume that's just for the Silver 2 pod. Not sure if I need the 
>> smaller Silver 2 washer, but it seems like I might to keep the pressure 
>> across the shifter face even.
>>
>> The internal structure of the Shimano spacer seems to be the biggest 
>> problem - it prevents things from nesting together the way it ought to (I 
>> think). Maybe I need to remove some of that internal material?
>>
>> So - before I start irreversibly filing and Dremelling - am I on the 
>> right track here? If anyone's done a similar swapout I'd love to hear about 
>> it!
>>
>> Thanks!  Mike Blackwell
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters on Shimano barend pods

2020-03-30 Thread Bones
Cool thanks Bill.

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[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters on Shimano barend pods

2020-03-30 Thread Joe Bernard
Mike: Yeah, it didn't look right to me when I first tried to put it all 
together, either. I didn't find a washer for you but I'm glad I could steer you 
in the right direction. 

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[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters on Shimano barend pods

2020-03-30 Thread Bill Lindsay
I run XO shifters on the IRD quill stem mount.  They work just fine.

Bill Lindsay 
El Cerrito, CA

On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 9:04:21 AM UTC-7, Bones wrote:
>
> Semi-related: anyone have any luck mounting the new silver 2 shifters to a 
> quill stem shifter mount? When I called Riv they weren’t sure, I guess they 
> haven’t tried that yet. They mentioned that the older silver shifters work 
> fine that way though. I’m contemplating doing downtube shifters or quill 
> mount on my new Roadini when it comes in...
>
> On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 6:52:01 PM UTC-4, Mike Blackwell wrote:
>>
>> I'm replacing the worn out circa ~2000 Shimano barend shifters (DuraAce I 
>> think) on my Redwood with Silver 2's. I was thinking I could keep the 
>> Shimano bar pods and just swap out the shifters, but now I'm not sure sure. 
>> I've attached a picture of what I have (Silver 2 on top, Shimano on bottom).
>>
>> Looking at just the left side - the Silver 2 comes with a smaller normal 
>> flat washer and a larger flat washer with a square hole and a tab sticking 
>> out. The old Shimano shifter has a spacer with some intricate internal 
>> structure.
>>
>> To get the spacing right, so the Silver 2 shifter cable exit aligns with 
>> the bar pod cable retainer it seems like I need to use the Shimano spacer. 
>> The big Silver 2 washer (with square hole and tab) doesn't seem to fit 
>> anywhere, I assume that's just for the Silver 2 pod. Not sure if I need the 
>> smaller Silver 2 washer, but it seems like I might to keep the pressure 
>> across the shifter face even.
>>
>> The internal structure of the Shimano spacer seems to be the biggest 
>> problem - it prevents things from nesting together the way it ought to (I 
>> think). Maybe I need to remove some of that internal material?
>>
>> So - before I start irreversibly filing and Dremelling - am I on the 
>> right track here? If anyone's done a similar swapout I'd love to hear about 
>> it!
>>
>> Thanks!  Mike Blackwell
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters on Shimano barend pods

2020-03-30 Thread Bones
Semi-related: anyone have any luck mounting the new silver 2 shifters to a 
quill stem shifter mount? When I called Riv they weren’t sure, I guess they 
haven’t tried that yet. They mentioned that the older silver shifters work 
fine that way though. I’m contemplating doing downtube shifters or quill 
mount on my new Roadini when it comes in...

On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 6:52:01 PM UTC-4, Mike Blackwell wrote:
>
> I'm replacing the worn out circa ~2000 Shimano barend shifters (DuraAce I 
> think) on my Redwood with Silver 2's. I was thinking I could keep the 
> Shimano bar pods and just swap out the shifters, but now I'm not sure sure. 
> I've attached a picture of what I have (Silver 2 on top, Shimano on bottom).
>
> Looking at just the left side - the Silver 2 comes with a smaller normal 
> flat washer and a larger flat washer with a square hole and a tab sticking 
> out. The old Shimano shifter has a spacer with some intricate internal 
> structure.
>
> To get the spacing right, so the Silver 2 shifter cable exit aligns with 
> the bar pod cable retainer it seems like I need to use the Shimano spacer. 
> The big Silver 2 washer (with square hole and tab) doesn't seem to fit 
> anywhere, I assume that's just for the Silver 2 pod. Not sure if I need the 
> smaller Silver 2 washer, but it seems like I might to keep the pressure 
> across the shifter face even.
>
> The internal structure of the Shimano spacer seems to be the biggest 
> problem - it prevents things from nesting together the way it ought to (I 
> think). Maybe I need to remove some of that internal material?
>
> So - before I start irreversibly filing and Dremelling - am I on the right 
> track here? If anyone's done a similar swapout I'd love to hear about it!
>
> Thanks!  Mike Blackwell
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters on Shimano barend pods

2020-03-30 Thread Mike Blackwell
Thank you Joe, that is exactly the information I needed. Besides the tab 
not fitting anywhere I thought the big washer was too thin and just set it 
aside, but now I see that is not the case. I think I should be able to cut 
and file the tab off pretty cleanly, and will be all set. If that doesn't 
work I'll give RBW a call, now that I know what I'm looking for.

Ride on!  Mike


On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 7:48:32 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Here's what you need to make that work. The big round washer with the big 
> square hole but no tab, then the small metal washer. This shifter slides on 
> next, then the plastic washer, then the metal cover (looks like a hubcap) 
> then the bolt. 
>
> What you're missing is the big washer without a tab, it came with the 
> bar-end pod I ordered from Riv. I think you can get them separately from 
> them. 
>
> On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 3:52:01 PM UTC-7, Mike Blackwell wrote: 
> > I'm replacing the worn out circa ~2000 Shimano barend shifters (DuraAce 
> I think) on my Redwood with Silver 2's. I was thinking I could keep the 
> Shimano bar pods and just swap out the shifters, but now I'm not sure sure. 
> I've attached a picture of what I have (Silver 2 on top, Shimano on 
> bottom). 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Looking at just the left side - the Silver 2 comes with a smaller normal 
> flat washer and a larger flat washer with a square hole and a tab sticking 
> out. The old Shimano shifter has a spacer with some intricate internal 
> structure. 
> > 
> > 
> > To get the spacing right, so the Silver 2 shifter cable exit aligns with 
> the bar pod cable retainer it seems like I need to use the Shimano spacer. 
> The big Silver 2 washer (with square hole and tab) doesn't seem to fit 
> anywhere, I assume that's just for the Silver 2 pod. Not sure if I need the 
> smaller Silver 2 washer, but it seems like I might to keep the pressure 
> across the shifter face even. 
> > 
> > 
> > The internal structure of the Shimano spacer seems to be the biggest 
> problem - it prevents things from nesting together the way it ought to (I 
> think). Maybe I need to remove some of that internal material? 
> > 
> > 
> > So - before I start irreversibly filing and Dremelling - am I on the 
> right track here? If anyone's done a similar swapout I'd love to hear about 
> it! 
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks!  Mike Blackwell 
>
>

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