[RBW] Re: Soma San Marcos review @ Bicycle Times

2013-05-11 Thread LBleriot

On Thursday, May 9, 2013 5:33:15 PM UTC-4, Doug Williams wrote: 

  I'm leaning strongly toward a San Marcos, but I can't seem to let go of 
 the idea of having a faster Roadeo. I like to do long solo rides. I ride 
 with others on occasion, but I don’t worry about racing or drafting 
 anybody. I want to be fast (doesn't everybody?) but I also want to be 
 comfortable. Not just because I like comfort (I do) but I also think that 
 being comfortable allows me to put in more effort, which makes me faster. 
 Plus, at 55 years old, I don’t recover as quickly as I used to. I want to 
 be able to ride daily. I don’t want to spend days “recovering” from the 
 last ride.

  

 So which bike do you guys think would be better for long, comfortable, 
 randonneuring type (but not racing) riding? The San Marcos with the 6 
 degree slope TT and very upright position? Or the Roadeo with the lighter 
 tubing (a little over half a pound, I think) and more “race bike” geometry? 
 I would put a threaded stem on the Roadeo and build it up pretty much the 
 same as a San Marcos. So I expect that I should be able to get the bars 
 high enough on either bike. But there are still differences in the bikes, 
 and I wonder how much “real world” difference there would be on a long ride.

  

 But then I keep going back and forth. The San Marcos can take a back rack 
 that could come in handy on longer rides. But then, I could clamp a rack on 
 the Roadeo if I really had to. The Roadeo is a drop-dead gorgeous “true 
 Rivendell” bike with a great paint job on higher quality steel. But then, 
 the San Marcos is $1,300 less.

  

 Analysis paralysis, I know.

 
Hey Doug,
 
Not to complicate matters, but I had rear rack and DT shifter mounts brazed 
onto my Roadeo at minimal cost/complaints from GP.  I haven't used them 
since buying the San Marcos because in my mind, the SM is the better choice 
for a rear rack and medium bag.  I've kept the Roadeo slim for fast, 
pavement only rides.  
 
You should have no wories about all day comfort on the SM.  As long as the 
geometry fits (slack angles on my 54cm make for a long reach that in my 
case needed to be compensated with a zero offset seatpost and 1 cm shorter 
stem).  If you're not doing fast club rides (though it's no slug) and you 
occasionally ride off road or in the rain, I think the SM is your ticket.  
Good luck.

  


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[RBW] Re: Soma San Marcos review @ Bicycle Times

2013-05-10 Thread Doug Williams
 

I'm leaning strongly toward a San Marcos, but I can't seem to let go of the 
idea of having a faster Roadeo. I like to do long solo rides. I ride with 
others on occasion, but I don’t worry about racing or drafting anybody. I 
want to be fast (doesn't everybody?) but I also want to be comfortable. Not 
just because I like comfort (I do) but I also think that being comfortable 
allows me to put in more effort, which makes me faster. Plus, at 55 years 
old, I don’t recover as quickly as I used to. I want to be able to ride 
daily. I don’t want to spend days “recovering” from the last ride.

 

So which bike do you guys think would be better for long, comfortable, 
randonneuring type (but not racing) riding? The San Marcos with the 6 
degree slope TT and very upright position? Or the Roadeo with the lighter 
tubing (a little over half a pound, I think) and more “race bike” geometry? 
I would put a threaded stem on the Roadeo and build it up pretty much the 
same as a San Marcos. So I expect that I should be able to get the bars 
high enough on either bike. But there are still differences in the bikes, 
and I wonder how much “real world” difference there would be on a long ride.

 

But then I keep going back and forth. The San Marcos can take a back rack 
that could come in handy on longer rides. But then, I could clamp a rack on 
the Roadeo if I really had to. The Roadeo is a drop-dead gorgeous “true 
Rivendell” bike with a great paint job on higher quality steel. But then, 
the San Marcos is $1,300 less.

 

Analysis paralysis, I know.
 

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[RBW] Re: Soma San Marcos review @ Bicycle Times

2013-05-10 Thread PeterG
Doug, I know exactly what you mean. I too am looking for a road quick bike 
that i can put albatross bars on and be COMFORTABLE. Age creeps up on us 
and riding can become a burden if there is a long recovery. That doesn't 
make us want to not go faster...it just makes us hurt more if we do. I 
owned a Gunnar Sport that may have been perfect for that kind of riding. I 
never put anything other than drops on it but thinking back I probably 
should have... just to know. Good luck in your search 

On Thursday, May 9, 2013 2:33:15 PM UTC-7, Doug Williams wrote:

 I'm leaning strongly toward a San Marcos, but I can't seem to let go of 
 the idea of having a faster Roadeo. I like to do long solo rides. I ride 
 with others on occasion, but I don’t worry about racing or drafting 
 anybody. I want to be fast (doesn't everybody?) but I also want to be 
 comfortable. Not just because I like comfort (I do) but I also think that 
 being comfortable allows me to put in more effort, which makes me faster. 
 Plus, at 55 years old, I don’t recover as quickly as I used to. I want to 
 be able to ride daily. I don’t want to spend days “recovering” from the 
 last ride.

  

 So which bike do you guys think would be better for long, comfortable, 
 randonneuring type (but not racing) riding? The San Marcos with the 6 
 degree slope TT and very upright position? Or the Roadeo with the lighter 
 tubing (a little over half a pound, I think) and more “race bike” geometry? 
 I would put a threaded stem on the Roadeo and build it up pretty much the 
 same as a San Marcos. So I expect that I should be able to get the bars 
 high enough on either bike. But there are still differences in the bikes, 
 and I wonder how much “real world” difference there would be on a long ride.

  

 But then I keep going back and forth. The San Marcos can take a back rack 
 that could come in handy on longer rides. But then, I could clamp a rack on 
 the Roadeo if I really had to. The Roadeo is a drop-dead gorgeous “true 
 Rivendell” bike with a great paint job on higher quality steel. But then, 
 the San Marcos is $1,300 less.

  

 Analysis paralysis, I know.
  


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Re: [RBW] Re: Soma San Marcos review @ Bicycle Times

2013-05-10 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
I'm quite confident that you can get into the right position in terms
of saddle height bars etc. on both the San Marcos and the Roadeo.

I'm also pretty sure that a half a pound here or there is not going to
make you appreciably faster on a long solo ride.

I think the tires that you use will make much more of a difference
than the frame you get. Wide supple tires will make that long solo
ride less jarring for the bones and less drag on your speed.

For long solo rides, I don't think you need a rear rack. I think it's
more convenient to have a small front rack (Mark's rack) and easy
access to your jacket and some food etc. For extra storage, I use
larger saddlebags...

Good luck!
Toshi




On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Doug Williams salg...@minbaritm.com wrote:
 I'm leaning strongly toward a San Marcos, but I can't seem to let go of the
 idea of having a faster Roadeo. I like to do long solo rides. I ride with
 others on occasion, but I don’t worry about racing or drafting anybody. I
 want to be fast (doesn't everybody?) but I also want to be comfortable. Not
 just because I like comfort (I do) but I also think that being comfortable
 allows me to put in more effort, which makes me faster. Plus, at 55 years
 old, I don’t recover as quickly as I used to. I want to be able to ride
 daily. I don’t want to spend days “recovering” from the last ride.



 So which bike do you guys think would be better for long, comfortable,
 randonneuring type (but not racing) riding? The San Marcos with the 6 degree
 slope TT and very upright position? Or the Roadeo with the lighter tubing (a
 little over half a pound, I think) and more “race bike” geometry? I would
 put a threaded stem on the Roadeo and build it up pretty much the same as a
 San Marcos. So I expect that I should be able to get the bars high enough on
 either bike. But there are still differences in the bikes, and I wonder how
 much “real world” difference there would be on a long ride.



 But then I keep going back and forth. The San Marcos can take a back rack
 that could come in handy on longer rides. But then, I could clamp a rack on
 the Roadeo if I really had to. The Roadeo is a drop-dead gorgeous “true
 Rivendell” bike with a great paint job on higher quality steel. But then,
 the San Marcos is $1,300 less.



 Analysis paralysis, I know.



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[RBW] Re: Soma San Marcos review @ Bicycle Times

2013-05-09 Thread PeterG
Niceeveryone who owns one seems to really enjoy the bike

On Thursday, May 9, 2013 9:03:56 AM UTC-7, René wrote:

 http://www.bicycletimesmag.com/content/review-soma-fabrications-san-marcos




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