[RBW] Re: Soma San Marcos review @ Bicycle Times
On Thursday, May 9, 2013 5:33:15 PM UTC-4, Doug Williams wrote: I'm leaning strongly toward a San Marcos, but I can't seem to let go of the idea of having a faster Roadeo. I like to do long solo rides. I ride with others on occasion, but I don’t worry about racing or drafting anybody. I want to be fast (doesn't everybody?) but I also want to be comfortable. Not just because I like comfort (I do) but I also think that being comfortable allows me to put in more effort, which makes me faster. Plus, at 55 years old, I don’t recover as quickly as I used to. I want to be able to ride daily. I don’t want to spend days “recovering” from the last ride. So which bike do you guys think would be better for long, comfortable, randonneuring type (but not racing) riding? The San Marcos with the 6 degree slope TT and very upright position? Or the Roadeo with the lighter tubing (a little over half a pound, I think) and more “race bike” geometry? I would put a threaded stem on the Roadeo and build it up pretty much the same as a San Marcos. So I expect that I should be able to get the bars high enough on either bike. But there are still differences in the bikes, and I wonder how much “real world” difference there would be on a long ride. But then I keep going back and forth. The San Marcos can take a back rack that could come in handy on longer rides. But then, I could clamp a rack on the Roadeo if I really had to. The Roadeo is a drop-dead gorgeous “true Rivendell” bike with a great paint job on higher quality steel. But then, the San Marcos is $1,300 less. Analysis paralysis, I know. Hey Doug, Not to complicate matters, but I had rear rack and DT shifter mounts brazed onto my Roadeo at minimal cost/complaints from GP. I haven't used them since buying the San Marcos because in my mind, the SM is the better choice for a rear rack and medium bag. I've kept the Roadeo slim for fast, pavement only rides. You should have no wories about all day comfort on the SM. As long as the geometry fits (slack angles on my 54cm make for a long reach that in my case needed to be compensated with a zero offset seatpost and 1 cm shorter stem). If you're not doing fast club rides (though it's no slug) and you occasionally ride off road or in the rain, I think the SM is your ticket. Good luck. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Soma San Marcos review @ Bicycle Times
I'm leaning strongly toward a San Marcos, but I can't seem to let go of the idea of having a faster Roadeo. I like to do long solo rides. I ride with others on occasion, but I don’t worry about racing or drafting anybody. I want to be fast (doesn't everybody?) but I also want to be comfortable. Not just because I like comfort (I do) but I also think that being comfortable allows me to put in more effort, which makes me faster. Plus, at 55 years old, I don’t recover as quickly as I used to. I want to be able to ride daily. I don’t want to spend days “recovering” from the last ride. So which bike do you guys think would be better for long, comfortable, randonneuring type (but not racing) riding? The San Marcos with the 6 degree slope TT and very upright position? Or the Roadeo with the lighter tubing (a little over half a pound, I think) and more “race bike” geometry? I would put a threaded stem on the Roadeo and build it up pretty much the same as a San Marcos. So I expect that I should be able to get the bars high enough on either bike. But there are still differences in the bikes, and I wonder how much “real world” difference there would be on a long ride. But then I keep going back and forth. The San Marcos can take a back rack that could come in handy on longer rides. But then, I could clamp a rack on the Roadeo if I really had to. The Roadeo is a drop-dead gorgeous “true Rivendell” bike with a great paint job on higher quality steel. But then, the San Marcos is $1,300 less. Analysis paralysis, I know. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Soma San Marcos review @ Bicycle Times
Doug, I know exactly what you mean. I too am looking for a road quick bike that i can put albatross bars on and be COMFORTABLE. Age creeps up on us and riding can become a burden if there is a long recovery. That doesn't make us want to not go faster...it just makes us hurt more if we do. I owned a Gunnar Sport that may have been perfect for that kind of riding. I never put anything other than drops on it but thinking back I probably should have... just to know. Good luck in your search On Thursday, May 9, 2013 2:33:15 PM UTC-7, Doug Williams wrote: I'm leaning strongly toward a San Marcos, but I can't seem to let go of the idea of having a faster Roadeo. I like to do long solo rides. I ride with others on occasion, but I don’t worry about racing or drafting anybody. I want to be fast (doesn't everybody?) but I also want to be comfortable. Not just because I like comfort (I do) but I also think that being comfortable allows me to put in more effort, which makes me faster. Plus, at 55 years old, I don’t recover as quickly as I used to. I want to be able to ride daily. I don’t want to spend days “recovering” from the last ride. So which bike do you guys think would be better for long, comfortable, randonneuring type (but not racing) riding? The San Marcos with the 6 degree slope TT and very upright position? Or the Roadeo with the lighter tubing (a little over half a pound, I think) and more “race bike” geometry? I would put a threaded stem on the Roadeo and build it up pretty much the same as a San Marcos. So I expect that I should be able to get the bars high enough on either bike. But there are still differences in the bikes, and I wonder how much “real world” difference there would be on a long ride. But then I keep going back and forth. The San Marcos can take a back rack that could come in handy on longer rides. But then, I could clamp a rack on the Roadeo if I really had to. The Roadeo is a drop-dead gorgeous “true Rivendell” bike with a great paint job on higher quality steel. But then, the San Marcos is $1,300 less. Analysis paralysis, I know. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Soma San Marcos review @ Bicycle Times
I'm quite confident that you can get into the right position in terms of saddle height bars etc. on both the San Marcos and the Roadeo. I'm also pretty sure that a half a pound here or there is not going to make you appreciably faster on a long solo ride. I think the tires that you use will make much more of a difference than the frame you get. Wide supple tires will make that long solo ride less jarring for the bones and less drag on your speed. For long solo rides, I don't think you need a rear rack. I think it's more convenient to have a small front rack (Mark's rack) and easy access to your jacket and some food etc. For extra storage, I use larger saddlebags... Good luck! Toshi On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Doug Williams salg...@minbaritm.com wrote: I'm leaning strongly toward a San Marcos, but I can't seem to let go of the idea of having a faster Roadeo. I like to do long solo rides. I ride with others on occasion, but I don’t worry about racing or drafting anybody. I want to be fast (doesn't everybody?) but I also want to be comfortable. Not just because I like comfort (I do) but I also think that being comfortable allows me to put in more effort, which makes me faster. Plus, at 55 years old, I don’t recover as quickly as I used to. I want to be able to ride daily. I don’t want to spend days “recovering” from the last ride. So which bike do you guys think would be better for long, comfortable, randonneuring type (but not racing) riding? The San Marcos with the 6 degree slope TT and very upright position? Or the Roadeo with the lighter tubing (a little over half a pound, I think) and more “race bike” geometry? I would put a threaded stem on the Roadeo and build it up pretty much the same as a San Marcos. So I expect that I should be able to get the bars high enough on either bike. But there are still differences in the bikes, and I wonder how much “real world” difference there would be on a long ride. But then I keep going back and forth. The San Marcos can take a back rack that could come in handy on longer rides. But then, I could clamp a rack on the Roadeo if I really had to. The Roadeo is a drop-dead gorgeous “true Rivendell” bike with a great paint job on higher quality steel. But then, the San Marcos is $1,300 less. Analysis paralysis, I know. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Soma San Marcos review @ Bicycle Times
Niceeveryone who owns one seems to really enjoy the bike On Thursday, May 9, 2013 9:03:56 AM UTC-7, René wrote: http://www.bicycletimesmag.com/content/review-soma-fabrications-san-marcos -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.