Re: [RBW] Re: Suggestions for best-value 120 mm, 32-hole, silver, sealed-bearing fixed hub?

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks. I have offers or sources for hollow axle models.

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 2:27 PM S  wrote:

> My name isn't Steve, but no worries.
>
> I don't know who makes the Dia Compe hubs, but I also have some Formula
> hubs and the Dia Compes are noticeably nicer.
>
> I suggested these because I wasn't sure if QR compatibility was an
> absolute requirement or not. They have two out of three -- sealed and good
> bearings.
>
> On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 11:09:49 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Steve. Do you know if these are made by Formula?
>>
>> At any rate, they're nice, but I would prefer a QR-compatible axle.
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 11:21 AM S  wrote:
>>
>>> These don't take a QR skewer, but I have used them on my last two builds
>>> and I like them a lot:
>>>
>>> http://www.diacompe.com.tw/product/gran-compe-ii-hub/
>>>
>>> Around $50-65 for the rear, depending on where you buy them.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 6:48:46 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I have to buy a new fixed road hub since the Surly I've been using
 apparently can't  be respaced to the required 120 mm.

 I've not bought a fixed hub since 2006 or so, tho' I did upgrade my
 Surly axle and bearings about 2010, so I'm interested in suggestions.

 I'd like:

 Adequate sealing against dust and occasional rain;
 Hollow axle for QR or allen bolts;
 Decent bearings.

 I know and own Phil, but I am trying in this case to buy on merit or
 value and not on status. If Phil or Paul don't add 50% or 100% more value
 (metaphor) then I'd rather not pay half or all again as much as necessary.

 I see that Surly still makes a 120 OL silver 32 hole hub and that you
 can buy a hollow, threaded axle for it.

 Miche, Velo Orange, DT, Formula: I've looked at all of these, but not
 all take QR skewers.

 Your (singular and plural) recommendations?

 Thanks.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Suggestions for best-value 120 mm, 32-hole, silver, sealed-bearing fixed hub?

[S]

My name isn't Steve, but no worries. 

I don't know who makes the Dia Compe hubs, but I also have some Formula 
hubs and the Dia Compes are noticeably nicer. 

I suggested these because I wasn't sure if QR compatibility was an absolute 
requirement or not. They have two out of three -- sealed and good bearings. 

On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 11:09:49 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Thanks, Steve. Do you know if these are made by Formula?
>
> At any rate, they're nice, but I would prefer a QR-compatible axle.
>
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 11:21 AM S > wrote:
>
>> These don't take a QR skewer, but I have used them on my last two builds 
>> and I like them a lot:
>>
>> http://www.diacompe.com.tw/product/gran-compe-ii-hub/
>>
>> Around $50-65 for the rear, depending on where you buy them. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 6:48:46 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> I have to buy a new fixed road hub since the Surly I've been using 
>>> apparently can't  be respaced to the required 120 mm. 
>>>
>>> I've not bought a fixed hub since 2006 or so, tho' I did upgrade my 
>>> Surly axle and bearings about 2010, so I'm interested in suggestions.
>>>
>>> I'd like:
>>>
>>> Adequate sealing against dust and occasional rain;
>>> Hollow axle for QR or allen bolts;
>>> Decent bearings.
>>>
>>> I know and own Phil, but I am trying in this case to buy on merit or 
>>> value and not on status. If Phil or Paul don't add 50% or 100% more value 
>>> (metaphor) then I'd rather not pay half or all again as much as necessary.
>>>
>>> I see that Surly still makes a 120 OL silver 32 hole hub and that you 
>>> can buy a hollow, threaded axle for it.
>>>
>>> Miche, Velo Orange, DT, Formula: I've looked at all of these, but not 
>>> all take QR skewers.
>>>
>>> Your (singular and plural) recommendations?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
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>>>
>>> ---
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>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Suggestions for best-value 120 mm, 32-hole, silver, sealed-bearing fixed hub?

[Jeffrey Arita]

Yes, true.  I think that is why the use of the nuts make the VO flexible 
for various dropout widths.

VO really did their homework on this hub, IMHO.  Both sides of the hub are 
the exact same, so running two different freewheels with lockrings is 
possible.  Or, obviously two fixed gears.

Good luck,

Jeff

On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 11:09:11 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Just realized: One would have to trim the axles to fit a 120 MM hub with 
> QR skewer, right? Not a huge obstacle, but something to include in the 
> pro/con mix.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 12:07 PM Patrick Moore  > wrote:
>
>> Thank you, Jeff; this is exactly the kind information I was hoping for. I 
>> just looked again at the VO hub and it does indeed have hollow axles; 
>> missed that before. It is now #1 tied with Surly.
>>
>> Noted about Shimano QRs; that's what I've been using myself; agree they 
>> work better than many others.
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 10:18 AM Jeffrey Arita > > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Patrick,
>>>
>>> I will offer up my 2 cents: I own a Surly Cross-Check (132.5mm rear 
>>> dropout spacing) and I converted it to SS/fixed gear about 18 months ago.  
>>> Never having such a drivetrain, I researched rear hubs.  I settled on the 
>>> VO fixed/freewheel hub (32 hole drilling only).  I installed a Shimano 
>>> freewheel cog on one side and a Surly fixed cog on the other.  The VO hub 
>>> came with various spacers so the hub will fit 126, 130 or 135 dropouts.  It 
>>> does have a hollow axle but I've only used the bolts to secure it to the 
>>> horizontal dropouts on the CC.  One could use a QR if desired.  FWIW: Mike 
>>> Varley (BMC) recommends use of Shimano only QRs for the rear.  He states 
>>> they clamp very well vs. other QRs on the market.
>>>
>>> BTW: I recently purchased a Fuji Team road bike frame & fork.  The 
>>> mid-80's frame had 126 spacing.  Wanting to put it together quickly to see 
>>> how it rode I put the VO hub with the 126 spacers on it.  
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 7:11:57 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I should add that the default is the Surly, if currently available; it 
 has been perfectly trouble free for thousands of miles and looks good. A 
 fixed/fixed would be nice, though. And I'd like opinions on others.

 On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 7:48 AM Patrick Moore  
 wrote:

> I have to buy a new fixed road hub since the Surly I've been using 
> apparently can't  be respaced to the required 120 mm. 
>
> I've not bought a fixed hub since 2006 or so, tho' I did upgrade my 
> Surly axle and bearings about 2010, so I'm interested in suggestions.
>
> I'd like:
>
> Adequate sealing against dust and occasional rain;
> Hollow axle for QR or allen bolts;
> Decent bearings.
>
> I know and own Phil, but I am trying in this case to buy on merit or 
> value and not on status. If Phil or Paul don't add 50% or 100% more value 
> (metaphor) then I'd rather not pay half or all again as much as necessary.
>
> I see that Surly still makes a 120 OL silver 32 hole hub and that you 
> can buy a hollow, threaded axle for it.
>
> Miche, Velo Orange, DT, Formula: I've looked at all of these, but not 
> all take QR skewers.
>
> Your (singular and plural) recommendations?
>
> Thanks.
>
> -- 
>
> ---
> Patrick Moore
> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Suggestions for best-value 120 mm, 32-hole, silver, sealed-bearing fixed hub?

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks, Steve. Do you know if these are made by Formula?

At any rate, they're nice, but I would prefer a QR-compatible axle.

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 11:21 AM S  wrote:

> These don't take a QR skewer, but I have used them on my last two builds
> and I like them a lot:
>
> http://www.diacompe.com.tw/product/gran-compe-ii-hub/
>
> Around $50-65 for the rear, depending on where you buy them.
>
> On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 6:48:46 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> I have to buy a new fixed road hub since the Surly I've been using
>> apparently can't  be respaced to the required 120 mm.
>>
>> I've not bought a fixed hub since 2006 or so, tho' I did upgrade my Surly
>> axle and bearings about 2010, so I'm interested in suggestions.
>>
>> I'd like:
>>
>> Adequate sealing against dust and occasional rain;
>> Hollow axle for QR or allen bolts;
>> Decent bearings.
>>
>> I know and own Phil, but I am trying in this case to buy on merit or
>> value and not on status. If Phil or Paul don't add 50% or 100% more value
>> (metaphor) then I'd rather not pay half or all again as much as necessary.
>>
>> I see that Surly still makes a 120 OL silver 32 hole hub and that you can
>> buy a hollow, threaded axle for it.
>>
>> Miche, Velo Orange, DT, Formula: I've looked at all of these, but not all
>> take QR skewers.
>>
>> Your (singular and plural) recommendations?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
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>>
>> ---
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>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
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Re: [RBW] Re: Suggestions for best-value 120 mm, 32-hole, silver, sealed-bearing fixed hub?

[Patrick Moore]

Just realized: One would have to trim the axles to fit a 120 MM hub with QR
skewer, right? Not a huge obstacle, but something to include in the pro/con
mix.

Thanks again.

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 12:07 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Thank you, Jeff; this is exactly the kind information I was hoping for. I
> just looked again at the VO hub and it does indeed have hollow axles;
> missed that before. It is now #1 tied with Surly.
>
> Noted about Shimano QRs; that's what I've been using myself; agree they
> work better than many others.
>
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 10:18 AM Jeffrey Arita 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Patrick,
>>
>> I will offer up my 2 cents: I own a Surly Cross-Check (132.5mm rear
>> dropout spacing) and I converted it to SS/fixed gear about 18 months ago.
>> Never having such a drivetrain, I researched rear hubs.  I settled on the
>> VO fixed/freewheel hub (32 hole drilling only).  I installed a Shimano
>> freewheel cog on one side and a Surly fixed cog on the other.  The VO hub
>> came with various spacers so the hub will fit 126, 130 or 135 dropouts.  It
>> does have a hollow axle but I've only used the bolts to secure it to the
>> horizontal dropouts on the CC.  One could use a QR if desired.  FWIW: Mike
>> Varley (BMC) recommends use of Shimano only QRs for the rear.  He states
>> they clamp very well vs. other QRs on the market.
>>
>> BTW: I recently purchased a Fuji Team road bike frame & fork.  The
>> mid-80's frame had 126 spacing.  Wanting to put it together quickly to see
>> how it rode I put the VO hub with the 126 spacers on it.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 7:11:57 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> I should add that the default is the Surly, if currently available; it
>>> has been perfectly trouble free for thousands of miles and looks good. A
>>> fixed/fixed would be nice, though. And I'd like opinions on others.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 7:48 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>>
 I have to buy a new fixed road hub since the Surly I've been using
 apparently can't  be respaced to the required 120 mm.

 I've not bought a fixed hub since 2006 or so, tho' I did upgrade my
 Surly axle and bearings about 2010, so I'm interested in suggestions.

 I'd like:

 Adequate sealing against dust and occasional rain;
 Hollow axle for QR or allen bolts;
 Decent bearings.

 I know and own Phil, but I am trying in this case to buy on merit or
 value and not on status. If Phil or Paul don't add 50% or 100% more value
 (metaphor) then I'd rather not pay half or all again as much as necessary.

 I see that Surly still makes a 120 OL silver 32 hole hub and that you
 can buy a hollow, threaded axle for it.

 Miche, Velo Orange, DT, Formula: I've looked at all of these, but not
 all take QR skewers.

 Your (singular and plural) recommendations?

 Thanks.

 --

 ---
 Patrick Moore
 Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum


>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Suggestions for best-value 120 mm, 32-hole, silver, sealed-bearing fixed hub?

[Patrick Moore]

Thank you, Jeff; this is exactly the kind information I was hoping for. I
just looked again at the VO hub and it does indeed have hollow axles;
missed that before. It is now #1 tied with Surly.

Noted about Shimano QRs; that's what I've been using myself; agree they
work better than many others.

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 10:18 AM Jeffrey Arita 
wrote:

> Hi Patrick,
>
> I will offer up my 2 cents: I own a Surly Cross-Check (132.5mm rear
> dropout spacing) and I converted it to SS/fixed gear about 18 months ago.
> Never having such a drivetrain, I researched rear hubs.  I settled on the
> VO fixed/freewheel hub (32 hole drilling only).  I installed a Shimano
> freewheel cog on one side and a Surly fixed cog on the other.  The VO hub
> came with various spacers so the hub will fit 126, 130 or 135 dropouts.  It
> does have a hollow axle but I've only used the bolts to secure it to the
> horizontal dropouts on the CC.  One could use a QR if desired.  FWIW: Mike
> Varley (BMC) recommends use of Shimano only QRs for the rear.  He states
> they clamp very well vs. other QRs on the market.
>
> BTW: I recently purchased a Fuji Team road bike frame & fork.  The
> mid-80's frame had 126 spacing.  Wanting to put it together quickly to see
> how it rode I put the VO hub with the 126 spacers on it.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Jeff
>
>
> On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 7:11:57 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> I should add that the default is the Surly, if currently available; it
>> has been perfectly trouble free for thousands of miles and looks good. A
>> fixed/fixed would be nice, though. And I'd like opinions on others.
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 7:48 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> I have to buy a new fixed road hub since the Surly I've been using
>>> apparently can't  be respaced to the required 120 mm.
>>>
>>> I've not bought a fixed hub since 2006 or so, tho' I did upgrade my
>>> Surly axle and bearings about 2010, so I'm interested in suggestions.
>>>
>>> I'd like:
>>>
>>> Adequate sealing against dust and occasional rain;
>>> Hollow axle for QR or allen bolts;
>>> Decent bearings.
>>>
>>> I know and own Phil, but I am trying in this case to buy on merit or
>>> value and not on status. If Phil or Paul don't add 50% or 100% more value
>>> (metaphor) then I'd rather not pay half or all again as much as necessary.
>>>
>>> I see that Surly still makes a 120 OL silver 32 hole hub and that you
>>> can buy a hollow, threaded axle for it.
>>>
>>> Miche, Velo Orange, DT, Formula: I've looked at all of these, but not
>>> all take QR skewers.
>>>
>>> Your (singular and plural) recommendations?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Patrick Moore
>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>>
>>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: Suggestions for best-value 120 mm, 32-hole, silver, sealed-bearing fixed hub?

[S]

These don't take a QR skewer, but I have used them on my last two builds 
and I like them a lot:

http://www.diacompe.com.tw/product/gran-compe-ii-hub/

Around $50-65 for the rear, depending on where you buy them. 

On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 6:48:46 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I have to buy a new fixed road hub since the Surly I've been using 
> apparently can't  be respaced to the required 120 mm. 
>
> I've not bought a fixed hub since 2006 or so, tho' I did upgrade my Surly 
> axle and bearings about 2010, so I'm interested in suggestions.
>
> I'd like:
>
> Adequate sealing against dust and occasional rain;
> Hollow axle for QR or allen bolts;
> Decent bearings.
>
> I know and own Phil, but I am trying in this case to buy on merit or value 
> and not on status. If Phil or Paul don't add 50% or 100% more value 
> (metaphor) then I'd rather not pay half or all again as much as necessary.
>
> I see that Surly still makes a 120 OL silver 32 hole hub and that you can 
> buy a hollow, threaded axle for it.
>
> Miche, Velo Orange, DT, Formula: I've looked at all of these, but not all 
> take QR skewers.
>
> Your (singular and plural) recommendations?
>
> Thanks.
>
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>
> ---
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> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>
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[RBW] Re: Suggestions for best-value 120 mm, 32-hole, silver, sealed-bearing fixed hub?

[Jeffrey Arita]

Hi Patrick,

I will offer up my 2 cents: I own a Surly Cross-Check (132.5mm rear dropout 
spacing) and I converted it to SS/fixed gear about 18 months ago.  Never 
having such a drivetrain, I researched rear hubs.  I settled on the VO 
fixed/freewheel hub (32 hole drilling only).  I installed a Shimano 
freewheel cog on one side and a Surly fixed cog on the other.  The VO hub 
came with various spacers so the hub will fit 126, 130 or 135 dropouts.  It 
does have a hollow axle but I've only used the bolts to secure it to the 
horizontal dropouts on the CC.  One could use a QR if desired.  FWIW: Mike 
Varley (BMC) recommends use of Shimano only QRs for the rear.  He states 
they clamp very well vs. other QRs on the market.

BTW: I recently purchased a Fuji Team road bike frame & fork.  The mid-80's 
frame had 126 spacing.  Wanting to put it together quickly to see how it 
rode I put the VO hub with the 126 spacers on it.  

Good luck!

Jeff


On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 7:11:57 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I should add that the default is the Surly, if currently available; it has 
> been perfectly trouble free for thousands of miles and looks good. A 
> fixed/fixed would be nice, though. And I'd like opinions on others.
>
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 7:48 AM Patrick Moore  > wrote:
>
>> I have to buy a new fixed road hub since the Surly I've been using 
>> apparently can't  be respaced to the required 120 mm. 
>>
>> I've not bought a fixed hub since 2006 or so, tho' I did upgrade my Surly 
>> axle and bearings about 2010, so I'm interested in suggestions.
>>
>> I'd like:
>>
>> Adequate sealing against dust and occasional rain;
>> Hollow axle for QR or allen bolts;
>> Decent bearings.
>>
>> I know and own Phil, but I am trying in this case to buy on merit or 
>> value and not on status. If Phil or Paul don't add 50% or 100% more value 
>> (metaphor) then I'd rather not pay half or all again as much as necessary.
>>
>> I see that Surly still makes a 120 OL silver 32 hole hub and that you can 
>> buy a hollow, threaded axle for it.
>>
>> Miche, Velo Orange, DT, Formula: I've looked at all of these, but not all 
>> take QR skewers.
>>
>> Your (singular and plural) recommendations?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> ---
>> Patrick Moore
>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>
>>
>
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[RBW] Re: Suggestions for best-value 120 mm, 32-hole, silver, sealed-bearing fixed hub?

[Patrick Moore]

I should add that the default is the Surly, if currently available; it has
been perfectly trouble free for thousands of miles and looks good. A
fixed/fixed would be nice, though. And I'd like opinions on others.

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 7:48 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I have to buy a new fixed road hub since the Surly I've been using
> apparently can't  be respaced to the required 120 mm.
>
> I've not bought a fixed hub since 2006 or so, tho' I did upgrade my Surly
> axle and bearings about 2010, so I'm interested in suggestions.
>
> I'd like:
>
> Adequate sealing against dust and occasional rain;
> Hollow axle for QR or allen bolts;
> Decent bearings.
>
> I know and own Phil, but I am trying in this case to buy on merit or value
> and not on status. If Phil or Paul don't add 50% or 100% more value
> (metaphor) then I'd rather not pay half or all again as much as necessary.
>
> I see that Surly still makes a 120 OL silver 32 hole hub and that you can
> buy a hollow, threaded axle for it.
>
> Miche, Velo Orange, DT, Formula: I've looked at all of these, but not all
> take QR skewers.
>
> Your (singular and plural) recommendations?
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
>
> ---
> Patrick Moore
> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>
>

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