[RBW] Re: Sweating on your chain=rust=WD-40?
Well, wd-40 is a lubricant, but it is very light. Apparently too light for your conditions ! You likely could use something heavier. I sweat alot too here in East, and to keep it off the bike I 1. wear a Headsweats cap to absorb some sweat, and 2. carry a small microfiber cloth(or a regular hanky) in my pocket to wipe off sweat before it drips. It's so thin I just end up riding with it in my hands though on humid days. In days of yore I would have been too self conscious to do this, but now I don't care ! It beats sweating all over the bike ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Sweating on your chain=rust=WD-40?
No, WD-40 plus my usual lubricant, seems to be what's working better to prevent rust. I didn't use WD-40 before the recent rust problems. I may try bar chain oil, I have it on hand because I own a chainsaw. On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 6:55 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Well, wd-40 is a lubricant, but it is very light. Apparently too light for your conditions ! You likely could use something heavier. I sweat alot too here in East, and to keep it off the bike I 1. wear a Headsweats cap to absorb some sweat, and 2. carry a small microfiber cloth(or a regular hanky) in my pocket to wipe off sweat before it drips. It's so thin I just end up riding with it in my hands though on humid days. In days of yore I would have been too self conscious to do this, but now I don't care ! It beats sweating all over the bike ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sweating on your chain=rust=WD-40?
You have to understand that I get this visceral reaction to anyone using WD40 on anything ;^) I'd probably amend your lube procedure to cover more links. If you are just lubing 6-8 links, you are probably missing the majority of your drivetrain. If you have enough humidity to get corrosion on your chain (not the case in CA, except in winter or if you live in SF), you want a reasonably tenacious formula and it wouldn't hurt to leave a bit on the outside. You might experiment with something other than FL Wet. You might also experiment with lubing the night before you ride, then letting it get tacky overnight, then wiping lightly the next day - or just wiping up the drips. As long as you are lubing the pivots and plates rather than the rollers, you shouldn't cause too much of an issue. If you are getting surface rust on the rollers, that will probably disappear before you are up the street. Hope that helps! - Jim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Sweating on your chain=rust=WD-40?
I have a big container of FL Wet, that's why I keep using it. Trying to get value for my money. You're right though, I am probably not putting enough on. I've always gone on the light side for drivetrain cleanliness, but that probably needs to be re-examined in light of what's happening with the rust. On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Cyclofiend Jim cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: You have to understand that I get this visceral reaction to anyone using WD40 on anything ;^) I'd probably amend your lube procedure to cover more links. If you are just lubing 6-8 links, you are probably missing the majority of your drivetrain. If you have enough humidity to get corrosion on your chain (not the case in CA, except in winter or if you live in SF), you want a reasonably tenacious formula and it wouldn't hurt to leave a bit on the outside. You might experiment with something other than FL Wet. You might also experiment with lubing the night before you ride, then letting it get tacky overnight, then wiping lightly the next day - or just wiping up the drips. As long as you are lubing the pivots and plates rather than the rollers, you shouldn't cause too much of an issue. If you are getting surface rust on the rollers, that will probably disappear before you are up the street. Hope that helps! - Jim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sweating on your chain=rust=WD-40?
I agree with Jim's feelings about WD-40. It's something I might use as a substitute for Liquid Wrench to loosen jammed up fittings, but not as a lubricant. And I'd go further still in suggesting the oiler drops lubricant on more than 6 or so links. I'm a drop-a-link guy who prefers over night drying prior to wiping excess lub from the outside and sides of the chain (that's three surfaces). More can be learned here than you'll ever need to know here: http://sheldonbrown.com/chains.html Phil B Sonoma County -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Sweating on your chain=rust=WD-40?
To prevent rust, Boeshield is the best stuff. An article from Wood magazine comparing rust busters: boeshield.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/stop*rust*.pdf On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 9:10 AM, Phil Bickford phi...@sonic.net wrote: I agree with Jim's feelings about WD-40. It's something I might use as a substitute for Liquid Wrench to loosen jammed up fittings, but not as a lubricant. And I'd go further still in suggesting the oiler drops lubricant on more than 6 or so links. I'm a drop-a-link guy who prefers over night drying prior to wiping excess lub from the outside and sides of the chain (that's three surfaces). More can be learned here than you'll ever need to know here: http://sheldonbrown.com/chains.html Phil B Sonoma County -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -Zack -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sweating on your chain=rust=WD-40?
Whatever your normal lube, keep a thin film on the outside as well. Do too good of a job wiping the exterior chain and rust will appear. I haven't decided it the runst is a problem or not -- but in Colorado it's not likely as big an issue as for you. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, June 30, 2014 2:07:06 PM UTC-6, Jim Bronson wrote: I've been having problems lately with my chain getting rusty. My maintenance regimen has not changed, but what has changed is the amount of humidity in the air. It's been more humid and I've been sweating even more than normal, where normal=a lot. And for whatever reason the sweat on my chin seems to drip down right onto my chain. My normal maintenance regimen has been a complete cleaning every 5-700 miles and then once the chain is clean, drip Finish Line wet onto 6-8 links, operate drivetrain in stand, wipe clean and then ride. Re-apply Finish Line wet every 100-200 miles using same procedure, until next complete cleaning, then start over. Well now my chain is getting rusty with this regimen. So in desperation I coated the chain in WD-40 the last two times before I rode, wiped off the excess, and then applied some Finish Line, but only on to 4 links this time, and rotate drivetrain again, wipe off excess, and ride again. So far this seems to be working better, and I am still sweating onto my chain. Maybe it really is Water-Dispersant 40. And extremely salty Water-Dispersant 40 at that. Anyone else had similar experiences? -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Sweating on your chain=rust=WD-40?
For some reason I thought you were in New Mexico? Or do I have you confused with someone else on the list? On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 9:15 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Whatever your normal lube, keep a thin film on the outside as well. Do too good of a job wiping the exterior chain and rust will appear. I haven't decided it the runst is a problem or not -- but in Colorado it's not likely as big an issue as for you. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, June 30, 2014 2:07:06 PM UTC-6, Jim Bronson wrote: I've been having problems lately with my chain getting rusty. My maintenance regimen has not changed, but what has changed is the amount of humidity in the air. It's been more humid and I've been sweating even more than normal, where normal=a lot. And for whatever reason the sweat on my chin seems to drip down right onto my chain. My normal maintenance regimen has been a complete cleaning every 5-700 miles and then once the chain is clean, drip Finish Line wet onto 6-8 links, operate drivetrain in stand, wipe clean and then ride. Re-apply Finish Line wet every 100-200 miles using same procedure, until next complete cleaning, then start over. Well now my chain is getting rusty with this regimen. So in desperation I coated the chain in WD-40 the last two times before I rode, wiped off the excess, and then applied some Finish Line, but only on to 4 links this time, and rotate drivetrain again, wipe off excess, and ride again. So far this seems to be working better, and I am still sweating onto my chain. Maybe it really is Water-Dispersant 40. And extremely salty Water-Dispersant 40 at that. Anyone else had similar experiences? -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Sweating on your chain=rust=WD-40?
It's the other, less mountainous and more dusty Patrick who is in NM. On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 9:50 PM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote: For some reason I thought you were in New Mexico? Or do I have you confused with someone else on the list? On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 9:15 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Whatever your normal lube, keep a thin film on the outside as well. Do too good of a job wiping the exterior chain and rust will appear. I haven't decided it the runst is a problem or not -- but in Colorado it's not likely as big an issue as for you. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, June 30, 2014 2:07:06 PM UTC-6, Jim Bronson wrote: I've been having problems lately with my chain getting rusty. My maintenance regimen has not changed, but what has changed is the amount of humidity in the air. It's been more humid and I've been sweating even more than normal, where normal=a lot. And for whatever reason the sweat on my chin seems to drip down right onto my chain. My normal maintenance regimen has been a complete cleaning every 5-700 miles and then once the chain is clean, drip Finish Line wet onto 6-8 links, operate drivetrain in stand, wipe clean and then ride. Re-apply Finish Line wet every 100-200 miles using same procedure, until next complete cleaning, then start over. Well now my chain is getting rusty with this regimen. So in desperation I coated the chain in WD-40 the last two times before I rode, wiped off the excess, and then applied some Finish Line, but only on to 4 links this time, and rotate drivetrain again, wipe off excess, and ride again. So far this seems to be working better, and I am still sweating onto my chain. Maybe it really is Water-Dispersant 40. And extremely salty Water-Dispersant 40 at that. Anyone else had similar experiences? -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* * Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be?* * Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you can find it?” -- Flannery O'Connor, Wise Blood * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Sweating on your chain=rust=WD-40?
We coordinate like twins to confuse people. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, June 30, 2014 9:51:15 PM UTC-6, Jim Bronson wrote: For some reason I thought you were in New Mexico? Or do I have you confused with someone else on the list? On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 9:15 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com javascript: wrote: Whatever your normal lube, keep a thin film on the outside as well. Do too good of a job wiping the exterior chain and rust will appear. I haven't decided it the runst is a problem or not -- but in Colorado it's not likely as big an issue as for you. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, June 30, 2014 2:07:06 PM UTC-6, Jim Bronson wrote: I've been having problems lately with my chain getting rusty. My maintenance regimen has not changed, but what has changed is the amount of humidity in the air. It's been more humid and I've been sweating even more than normal, where normal=a lot. And for whatever reason the sweat on my chin seems to drip down right onto my chain. My normal maintenance regimen has been a complete cleaning every 5-700 miles and then once the chain is clean, drip Finish Line wet onto 6-8 links, operate drivetrain in stand, wipe clean and then ride. Re-apply Finish Line wet every 100-200 miles using same procedure, until next complete cleaning, then start over. Well now my chain is getting rusty with this regimen. So in desperation I coated the chain in WD-40 the last two times before I rode, wiped off the excess, and then applied some Finish Line, but only on to 4 links this time, and rotate drivetrain again, wipe off excess, and ride again. So far this seems to be working better, and I am still sweating onto my chain. Maybe it really is Water-Dispersant 40. And extremely salty Water-Dispersant 40 at that. Anyone else had similar experiences? -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
