[RBW] Re: The "One Bike" for a featherweight?
I really think you might be right...And as much as I want to try Albas, this may not be the bike for them. On Saturday, July 14, 2018 at 8:20:06 PM UTC-5, Belopsky wrote: > > this high sierra doesnt fit you. sell it to me. ;) > > On Saturday, July 14, 2018 at 7:19:04 PM UTC-4, Sean Steinle wrote: >> >> Forgot part of the update: The only bike I'll be keeping from my current >> stable is the too small, but big enough, Schwinn High Sierra. I added the >> Albatross cockpit I purchased from Isaac, next will be fenders, Brooks >> Cambium and still trying to decide on tires. This will be my poor mans, >> high bb, Hunq. Probably used for foul weather commuting and such. >> >> -Sean >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The "One Bike" for a featherweight?
this high sierra doesnt fit you. sell it to me. ;) On Saturday, July 14, 2018 at 7:19:04 PM UTC-4, Sean Steinle wrote: > > Forgot part of the update: The only bike I'll be keeping from my current > stable is the too small, but big enough, Schwinn High Sierra. I added the > Albatross cockpit I purchased from Isaac, next will be fenders, Brooks > Cambium and still trying to decide on tires. This will be my poor mans, > high bb, Hunq. Probably used for foul weather commuting and such. > > -Sean > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The "One Bike" for a featherweight?
That is a stunning bike. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The "One Bike" for a featherweight?
Well played, Sean! That looks like an excellent choice for a lightweight "one bike". Enjoy! Chris Johnson Sanger, Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The "One Bike" for a featherweight?
Update! Thanks to everyone for the replies! This garnered more responses than I expected, and the discussion was extremely helpful. I've decided to go in a non-rivish direction for this bike. I think at my weight, and with the riding I want to do, a lightweight tubing with low trail is more ideal. I've taken the plunge and am now the proud owner of the Velo Cult/Nobilette rando that was recently for sale on the iBOB list (pics here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/113550232@N02/albums/72157650396039686). In the end it's everything I want in a bike at an unbeatable price. I still hope to own a Riv one day. I'd like an AHH, but that would probably be far too much crossover with the Nobilette. We'll see what is Riv is offering when I'm ready, which will not be for a long time if I want to stay married. Small plug, in case anyone is interested, the Raw Lacquer Ti Brommie is for sale on the iBOB list. Thanks all! Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: The "One Bike" for a featherweight?
I’m 185+ pounds, and I’ve taken my canti Sam on some short mixed-road tours pretty well loaded up and have had no problems whatsoever. It ends up a bit “noodly,” perhaps, but not beyond what I can get used to. It is a ton of fun to ride unloaded, too, and it fits 47/48 mm tires nicely. You didn’t mention a PBH, so I’m not sure if your size would be 650b, though. My 56 isn’t. What about the Crust Romanceur? It fits 650bx48 with fenders and even bigger without—could do 27.5x2.1 Thunderburts. You could also go with the intended 26x2.3 Rat Trap Pass and have comfort for days. Bob K. in Baltimore -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: The "One Bike" for a featherweight?
I am about 150 lbs and think that the AHH that I have rides well with about 30 lbs of gear on my rear rack. If the Atlantis is a bit more stout than the AHH, then I would lean toward an AHH or the Hillborne for you, since you are about 25 lbs lighter than me. I am favoring the Hillborne for gravel riding because it seems to handle a little more tire clearance compared to the AHH. I've ridden my AHH on single-track and it rides fine, but if I had a load, then I might want wider tires. I think the Sam Hillborne seems like an ideal "one bike". Toshi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The "One Bike" for a featherweight?
Sean, You may be on to something with 650b depending on what frame size you ride. I’m 5’10” and 162ish. I ride an older 56 canti-Hillborne and love it. It has the wonderful spritely ride that everyone identified. The only issues that have raised desires for n+1 are (1) the desire to ride tires fatter than 45mm Smart Sams and (2) the desire to have 650b wheels and tires. I think Riv started to really nail the proportional wheels to frames on the Clem with the 52 (my size) having 650b tires. I found 650b to be a great feel on trails given my size. Clem, the new Atlantis and the 650b Hunq really felt great to me but not enough to justify ditching my Sam. I’ve camped with the Hillborne and would be willing to try a short tour on it. That said, I have been considering a dedicated trail bike which, for me, would have to be 650b. If I ever get to go there, I’d keep the lighter wheelset and Compass BP Els on the Hillborne and build the trail bike up for all my camping, touring and trail riding needs. My ideal scenario would be a Roadini or Roadeo for roads and a 650b Hunq or MIT Atlantis for everything else. I don’t see that as an affordable option and, even if I could swing it, I’d really struggle to give up my Sam. The Hillborne has been the best bike I’ve ever had the pleasure of owning and I hope to always have it around to ride. That’s my 2 cents... John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The "One Bike" for a featherweight?
I don't have one, so can only speculate, but Sam Hillbornes are supposedly somewhere in between the Homer and the Atlantis on the stoutness scale. Now that they're offered with canti/V brake posts, they supposedly clear 48mm tires too. They also build up great as touring, trail, or road bikes. I feel you on the featherweight thing. I'm between 5' 11" and 6 feet, at about 140 pounds or less. Most bikes my size these days are way sturdier than I need, even loaded. I wonder what people take with them touring. I've never brought more than 30 pounds, even in the mountains for 5 days. I guess cans of beer add up pretty quick! Both my bikes are standard diameter tubing. A 1983 Trek 520, with .09/.06/.09 Reynolds 501 tubing, and a 1987 Trek Antelope with Tange unbutted .09 tubing. They feel pretty right to me, and I like the look of skinny tubes too. Eamon Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: The "One Bike" for a featherweight?
Sean: I can't add much to the discussion, but I will add that very many Rivendell riders find that even very stoutly built Rivendells ride "nimbly." Anecdote: I had a stripped down, minimal braze on (1 pr of bottle cage braze ons on dt; that's all) gofast fixie road custom made by Riv in 1999. I thought it was very light. I took it apart and gave frame and fork to Chauncey Matthews, local builder, for alterations. He picked f/f/hs/bb up and said, "Huh. Not very light." He built my dirt road bike using thin gauge heat treated tubing, even though the total bike with all accoutrements and encumbrances weighs 30.34 lb on my digital scale. But -- the point -- it has always, always, over almost 20 years felt nimble and fast even compared to at least 1 lighter frame, an all-531, standard diameter 1973 Motobecane. But I'm 175. Another point: I hear that the Roadeo is made from quite light gauge tubing in the sub-large sizes with butts of just .7 mm and .4 mm bellies; is this right? I'll be interested to hear what you end up with. BTW, that lightweight Motobecane racing bike? Of all the many bikes I've owned, it has been the best carrier of heavyish rear loads, with less upset to handling than even with much stouter frames. On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Sean Steinle wrote: > Everything that's been said has been super helpful! Chris, your post is a > really good direct comparison for me, because our weight is nearly > identical. I don't prefer a rock solid feel, lively would be much more the > ticket. I think for a bike to feel lively to me, there aren't many Rivs > that would fit the bill. Given that I already know I like the low trail of > my Brommie, I'm thinking something like a Rambler would be more suitable > for me. > > Honestly, it's kind of funny because I've gone full circle (owning > probably the lightest-weight "Riv" bike out there in the San Marcos) to > wanting the stoutest (Hunq/Bomba) back to wanting lightweight tubing (the > San Marcos that I already have!) San Marcos isn't built up though, and I > want to go 650B, and low-trail, which the SM is neither. > > I'd still like to own a Riv at some point, I think if I do, it will be a > 650b MUSA AHH, or an old Atlantis (I think they were made with lighter > tubing than the are now??). > > In the meantime, anyone have a Rambler they're looking to unload? :) > > On Wednesday, July 11, 2018 at 10:21:57 PM UTC-5, Pondero wrote: >> >> Sean, this is exactly my dilemma. I have learned that enjoy standard >> diameter thin wall tubed framesets because they have more of a springy, >> energetic feel. Others might have different preferences. For example, >> even with a full touring load, my Hilsen was more fun (for me) to ride than >> my Atlantis. If you prefer that rock solid feel over what some might call >> noodly, you might choose the Atlantis or Hunq over the Hilsen. >> >> I eventually purchased an Ocean Air Cycles with standard diameter 8/5/8 >> tubing, have loaded it up with touring gear, and it is even better (for >> me). My weight is around 130-135. Sometimes I don't think average or >> larger folk uunderstand how important that difference is to us small guys. >> But there are wonderfully lively framesets available. >> >> Chris Johnson >> Sanger, Texas >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, New Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique ** ** *Auditis an me ludit amabilis insania?* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The "One Bike" for a featherweight?
Everything that's been said has been super helpful! Chris, your post is a really good direct comparison for me, because our weight is nearly identical. I don't prefer a rock solid feel, lively would be much more the ticket. I think for a bike to feel lively to me, there aren't many Rivs that would fit the bill. Given that I already know I like the low trail of my Brommie, I'm thinking something like a Rambler would be more suitable for me. Honestly, it's kind of funny because I've gone full circle (owning probably the lightest-weight "Riv" bike out there in the San Marcos) to wanting the stoutest (Hunq/Bomba) back to wanting lightweight tubing (the San Marcos that I already have!) San Marcos isn't built up though, and I want to go 650B, and low-trail, which the SM is neither. I'd still like to own a Riv at some point, I think if I do, it will be a 650b MUSA AHH, or an old Atlantis (I think they were made with lighter tubing than the are now??). In the meantime, anyone have a Rambler they're looking to unload? :) On Wednesday, July 11, 2018 at 10:21:57 PM UTC-5, Pondero wrote: > > Sean, this is exactly my dilemma. I have learned that enjoy standard > diameter thin wall tubed framesets because they have more of a springy, > energetic feel. Others might have different preferences. For example, > even with a full touring load, my Hilsen was more fun (for me) to ride than > my Atlantis. If you prefer that rock solid feel over what some might call > noodly, you might choose the Atlantis or Hunq over the Hilsen. > > I eventually purchased an Ocean Air Cycles with standard diameter 8/5/8 > tubing, have loaded it up with touring gear, and it is even better (for > me). My weight is around 130-135. Sometimes I don't think average or > larger folk uunderstand how important that difference is to us small guys. > But there are wonderfully lively framesets available. > > Chris Johnson > Sanger, Texas > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The "One Bike" for a featherweight?
I'm 135 lbs and I own two bikes: Hunqapillar + A. Homer Hilsen. I used to have a San Marcos, but my plan for years was to own exactly these two Rivendells, so I upgraded as a present to myself for landing a new job. As a fellow lightweight, I'd focus on geometry, tire clearance, brake type, and of course aesthetics (none of these frame are cheap!). If you're ok maxing out with 42 mm tires, build up your San Marcos or get an AHH (stouter tubing). They are both super capable for the riding you describe and, as Deacon Patrick pointed out above, it's more about how the frames* ride* with loads than anything. You will need to be reasonably responsible when you load them up above ~25 lbs and hit the trails for extended lengths, but otherwise you will be ok. Speaking from experience, Hunq/Bomba lust is strong once it starts and might be insatiable by alternatives. I love my Hunqapillar for both loaded and unloaded off-roading and bikecamping on Bay Area trails and single-track. Sure, it's a tad heavier, but I can focus on knocking around and having fun without any morsel of doubt that I might wreck my frame on the wrong trail, or even ding the top tube for all the reasons top tubes get dinged. The Hunqapillar is happy to take on endless load and rough terrain without sacrificing its ride quality/handling. It fits 60mm tires and, in my opinion, has the best Rivendell head badge. FWIW I can keep up with roadies on either bike, but if I could only keep one, it would be the Hunq. Short of Evel Knievel mountain bike terrain, I appreciate never feeling anywhere close to the frame's upper limit no matter what I get into. I advise you chat with the seller of the used 54cm Hunq a few posts below this one... that might make your decision easier. On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 4:42:31 PM UTC-7, Sean Steinle wrote: > > So, I see lots of discussion around how a bike handles for tall/heavy > riders. What I don't see is much about us featherweights. Is it because we > don't have to worry about it, or what? I'm 125 pounds if I'm lucky, and I'm > lusting after a Bomba/Hunq. The thing is though, I'm wondering if it's > overkill. I live in Kansas and have endless miles of country roads with > loose, large gravel that I want to explore, and dip my toes into some > bikepacking. I also commute to work, and buying a new bike will likely mean > selling my Titanium Brommie, so this new bike will see plenty of paved > roads for commuting duty as well. > > I bought a Soma San Marcos (54 cm 700c version) frame on an impulse, > without doing any research. Everything that Grant has said about it though > is that it's made with lightweight tubing and is a road bike. I was > originally thinking about doing a 650b conversion to get 42s under there, > but now I'm second guessing it with Grant's "this is a road bike" remarks. > With my interest in lots of gravel riding and bikepacking, this frame seems > like a poor choice. > > Sorry for the long-winded post. I think my real question boils down to: > does being very light let me pick whichever frame I want as long as tire > clearance and geo are good, without the worry about putting too much stress > on the frame on rough surfaces? Or is a Hunq/Bomba still a good choice for > me? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The "One Bike" for a featherweight?
Sean said "worry about putting too much stress on the frame on rough surfaces?" IMO it would be very hard to find a frame that would be too flimsy for your needs. Production frames are almost always overbuilt (although there are some exceptions) to survive the heaviest strongest rider that would reasonably ride that size bike. Echoing Joe and others,The San Marcos will be *plenty* strong for gravel riding, but its low bb and smallish tire clearance may be limiting. Rivendell frames tend toward the strong (heavy) side of the spectrum and may not be the best choice if light weight is a priority, unless you can spring for a custom Legolas or similar. But frame weight is only around 1/4 of overall bike weight. If you are truly lusting after a Bombadil, you should follow your heart! but carefully select the components (wheels especially) to come up with lightweight build that is suitable for your weight. Jack Seattle On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 4:42:31 PM UTC-7, Sean Steinle wrote > > So, I see lots of discussion around how a bike handles for tall/heavy > riders. What I don't see is much about us featherweights. Is it because we > don't have to worry about it, or what? I'm 125 pounds if I'm lucky, and I'm > lusting after a Bomba/Hunq. The thing is though, I'm wondering if it's > overkill. I live in Kansas and have endless miles of country roads with > loose, large gravel that I want to explore, and dip my toes into some > bikepacking. I also commute to work, and buying a new bike will likely mean > selling my Titanium Brommie, so this new bike will see plenty of paved > roads for commuting duty as well. > > I bought a Soma San Marcos (54 cm 700c version) frame on an impulse, > without doing any research. Everything that Grant has said about it though > is that it's made with lightweight tubing and is a road bike. I was > originally thinking about doing a 650b conversion to get 42s under there, > but now I'm second guessing it with Grant's "this is a road bike" remarks. > With my interest in lots of gravel riding and bikepacking, this frame seems > like a poor choice. > > Sorry for the long-winded post. I think my real question boils down to: > does being very light let me pick whichever frame I want as long as tire > clearance and geo are good, without the worry about putting too much stress > on the frame on rough surfaces? Or is a Hunq/Bomba still a good choice for > me? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The "One Bike" for a featherweight?
Not MUSA or Riv but low trail and affordable. https://www.cyclestoussaint.com/collections/frames/products/velo-routier-2-0-650b-low-trail-frame-with-braze-ons MUSA https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/internet-bob/2_Zo8AMfQuE/EILtyZ7BCgAJ;context-place=forum/internet-bob IMHO, the Rivendell Taiwanese frames are nicely painted and a relative bargain. I'm picking up my 53cm Atlantis tomorrow. You have great options. :-) On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 9:57:47 AM UTC-4, Sean Steinle wrote: > Thanks all for the responses. I'm trying hard to go N+0 with most stuff in > my life, and while I know I can't go wrong, I know I could go *more *right > :) Sounds like I could get a Joe, AHH, Hunq, or Atlantis and be perfectly > happy for any type of riding I'd want to do. Honestly, I think the Atlantis > fits the bill very nicely, I've just never loved the color, and paying > extra for paint on an already very expensive frame just doesn't seem right. > AHH and Hunq on the other hand have some of the most beautiful paint jobs > I've seen on any bike. App sounds great but since I'm trying to go N+0 I > want to go whole hog and get MUSA. > > Justin & Shoji, I think that advice is spot on. I wasn't clear though, my > San Marcos is unbuilt, just F Unfortunately, my only bike to experiment > with at the moment is a Brompton, so not a great starting point. One thing > I did realize, before I sold my previous bike (Salsa Casseroll) when I took > it out for a few rides after riding my Brompton for several months, is that > I really have come to love the low trail of my BrommieI know, probably > sort of heresy on this list, but, it is what it is. So that's sort of > giving my pause about everything in general. I do know that I'd get used to > mid-high trail again once I started riding it regularly, it just felt sooo > wonky and awkward after riding low trail for so long. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The "One Bike" for a featherweight?
Once upon a time I weighed 125lbs. I have a 48cm hunq Tire and handlebar would be, by far, my main qualifiers. For general comfort, gravely roads and dirt trails, I would insist on a minimum 1.75" tire with fenders. AHH doesn't go there, I don't think. Joe, Atlantis and Hunq do If I were buying a bike for that purpose, I would get the MIT Atlantis provided the new version worked well with my choice of handlebar (Albatross). The original did not, as I believe it was designed with drop bars in mind. . Joe would be my next choice, then the Hunq, mainly because you don't seem to ride rocky, rooty trails. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The "One Bike" for a featherweight?
Thanks all for the responses. I'm trying hard to go N+0 with most stuff in my life, and while I know I can't go wrong, I know I could go *more *right :) Sounds like I could get a Joe, AHH, Hunq, or Atlantis and be perfectly happy for any type of riding I'd want to do. Honestly, I think the Atlantis fits the bill very nicely, I've just never loved the color, and paying extra for paint on an already very expensive frame just doesn't seem right. AHH and Hunq on the other hand have some of the most beautiful paint jobs I've seen on any bike. App sounds great but since I'm trying to go N+0 I want to go whole hog and get MUSA. Justin & Shoji, I think that advice is spot on. I wasn't clear though, my San Marcos is unbuilt, just F Unfortunately, my only bike to experiment with at the moment is a Brompton, so not a great starting point. One thing I did realize, before I sold my previous bike (Salsa Casseroll) when I took it out for a few rides after riding my Brompton for several months, is that I really have come to love the low trail of my BrommieI know, probably sort of heresy on this list, but, it is what it is. So that's sort of giving my pause about everything in general. I do know that I'd get used to mid-high trail again once I started riding it regularly, it just felt sooo wonky and awkward after riding low trail for so long. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The "One Bike" for a featherweight?
Hi Sean, I agree with Justin. How do you like your San Marcos? Does it ride well for you on paved roads? What happens to the handling when you put a commuter load on it? or bag of groceries? How does the ride change when you're on Kansas gravel? I'd recommend an S24O on it, and see how it does. I'm 155# and ride AHH (38mm wide tires)-- perfectly fine and happy riding New England trails for bikepacking. Good luck! shoji On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 1:26:42 AM UTC-4, Justin, Oakland wrote: > > First: ride what you have the way you can and want to ride. Figure out > what works and what doesn’t. Many people prefer lighter bikes for gravel > and bikepacking, some prefer 3” wide tires without suspension, some like > 2.4” full suspension bikes. You won’t know until you try. > > From there iron out what you might change: > - do you want racks or strap on bags? > - are you needing a lower top tube for dismounting? > - does it waggle or feel too stiff? > - does it feel like you need skinnier or fatter tires? > - how about that top tube? Does it let you run the bars you want in the > position you want? > - are my tires supple enough? SHOULD I HAVE GUMWALLS? > - why isn’t it orange? > > All of these will help you decide if what you have is right, almost there > and tweakable, the correct base but serious overhauling or complete > replacement. > > I have tended mostly towards tweaking the setup except in the case of my > MTB. My first one came and went so fast I barely remember it. I’m tweaking > it’s replacement to all hell though. > > > -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: The "One Bike" for a featherweight?
Ahahahaahah Great photo of you and with your compadres in ABQ for a Patrick, dressed in your Sun-day best no doubt ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The "One Bike" for a featherweight?
Hey Sean, I don't know if a Hunqapillar would float your boat, but I do know my 54cm 2013 Hunq floats mine. I have fun on 38-42mm tires, usually just keep it that way, and stripped down with minimal racks or bags. BUT, it also rides sweet with 50mm tires & loaded racks, so a Hunq can be fun doing anything. John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The "One Bike" for a featherweight?
Heyo, I'm about 145 so I know how you feel in regards to buying an overbuilt bike, and you could probably get away with a less-burly bike like an App or an Atlantis (even those are probably overkill...). That being said, if you end up doing more rough-and-tumble roads like you are describing (while fully loaded for bikepacking) having a more burly bike leads to more peace of mind so you don't feel like you are nursing a precious frame down a rough route. For context, I'm an Earthquake and Dam engineer so a little bit of conservatism can go a long way for peace of mind :) I didn't really answer your question, but I guess my suggestion is a little extra weight in the frame is worth it! Good luck, Collin A On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 4:42:31 PM UTC-7, Sean Steinle wrote: > > So, I see lots of discussion around how a bike handles for tall/heavy > riders. What I don't see is much about us featherweights. Is it because we > don't have to worry about it, or what? I'm 125 pounds if I'm lucky, and I'm > lusting after a Bomba/Hunq. The thing is though, I'm wondering if it's > overkill. I live in Kansas and have endless miles of country roads with > loose, large gravel that I want to explore, and dip my toes into some > bikepacking. I also commute to work, and buying a new bike will likely mean > selling my Titanium Brommie, so this new bike will see plenty of paved > roads for commuting duty as well. > > I bought a Soma San Marcos (54 cm 700c version) frame on an impulse, > without doing any research. Everything that Grant has said about it though > is that it's made with lightweight tubing and is a road bike. I was > originally thinking about doing a 650b conversion to get 42s under there, > but now I'm second guessing it with Grant's "this is a road bike" remarks. > With my interest in lots of gravel riding and bikepacking, this frame seems > like a poor choice. > > Sorry for the long-winded post. I think my real question boils down to: > does being very light let me pick whichever frame I want as long as tire > clearance and geo are good, without the worry about putting too much stress > on the frame on rough surfaces? Or is a Hunq/Bomba still a good choice for > me? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The "One Bike" for a featherweight?
But surely soliciting advice on a forum will end in an objective, unanimous frame reccomendation to end my analysis paralysis forever, right..right??? :) On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 7:59:55 PM UTC-5, Garth wrote: > > Pick whatever frame you want . You are overthinking all of it. A bike > is bike, sheesh . > > "Yes but ..butt butt butt" > > Yeah . everyone has one, so what ? > > > On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 7:42:31 PM UTC-4, Sean Steinle wrote: >> >> >> Sorry for the long-winded post. I think my real question boils down to: >> does being very light let me pick whichever frame I want as long as tire >> clearance and geo are good, without the worry about putting too much stress >> on the frame on rough surfaces? Or is a Hunq/Bomba still a good choice for >> me? >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The "One Bike" for a featherweight?
Pick whatever frame you want . You are overthinking all of it. A bike is bike, sheesh . "Yes but ..butt butt butt" Yeah . everyone has one, so what ? On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 7:42:31 PM UTC-4, Sean Steinle wrote: > > > Sorry for the long-winded post. I think my real question boils down to: > does being very light let me pick whichever frame I want as long as tire > clearance and geo are good, without the worry about putting too much stress > on the frame on rough surfaces? Or is a Hunq/Bomba still a good choice for > me? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
