[RBW] Re: The last of the phenomenal Clem H’s

[Jason Fuller]

Sorry for the slow response, but thanks for the kind words Tom.  It's an 
FSA Comet crankset / BB with external bearings, which uses an annoyingly 
rare chainring interface - but I discovered through internet sleuthing that 
it is the same as a Cannondale spec, which Wolf Tooth makes a spider 
adapter for, so I have that plus a Wolf Tooth 38t ring to replace the stock 
32t.  Not sure what the spindle length would work out to on this setup 
since it's all integrated. 

Seatpost is the stock one, S65 sounds right?  It's about 20mm from being 
maxed out.  I don't love the look, but the ample standover is nice!  I 
prefer the look over a step-thru so I'll take the compromise. 

On Saturday, 11 January 2020 05:02:20 UTC-8, tc wrote:
>
> Jason,
> Very nice build.  What bb, bb width, and chainring do you have there?  
> Your seat post must be maxed out - is that the 300mm S65?
>
> Tom
>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: The last of the phenomenal Clem H’s

[tc]

Jason,
Very nice build.  What bb, bb width, and chainring do you have there?  Your 
seat post must be maxed out - is that the 300mm S65?

Tom

On Monday, January 6, 2020 at 12:27:18 AM UTC-5, Jason Fuller wrote:
>
> I bought the third-to-last green 45 frameset on December 23, and am 
> surprised the remaining two are still available!  It was not the value for 
> me that it is for others, being Canadian, as I paid a terrible exchange 
> rate and obscene shipping / duty - but I still feel like it's a good 
> investment. It's been built into the most ideal commuter I could possibly 
> imagine. 
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: The last of the phenomenal Clem H’s

[Reid Echols]

Not designed for it, but I for one (and others I know of) have run 650b on 26” 
frames with no real problems, other than higher bb/slightly reduced tire 
clearance. Even the cheapest Shimano b brakes have plenty of vertical 
adjustment to make such a thing happen. So, not “authorised” but likely 
possible to make that conversion (as opposed to the other direction, 700c to 
650b, which is much more difficult with a canti frame).

Reid in Austin 

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Re: [RBW] Re: The last of the phenomenal Clem H’s

[Joe Bernard]

Nope. That's a 26-inch wheeler. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: The last of the phenomenal Clem H’s

[John_ C]

Thanks for the input everyone!

Last question about the Clem. Can I run 650b/27.5 on the 45cm? I already
have a bunch of tires and 27.5 is kind of a sweet spot for me. I assume
even with 27.5s, I’d have clearance for a 2.0 mob tire.



On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 9:30 PM Jason Fuller  wrote:

> John_C - I highly, highly recommend going with the 45.  The 52 is massive,
> much larger than a 52 has any right being. I am 5'8.5" with s 30.5" inseam
> and I fit the 45 quite well.  It'll be perfect for you.  With a Billie /
> Bosco you'll want a longer stem but it'll overall fit MUCH better in my
> opinion
>
> On Sunday, 5 January 2020 14:40:15 UTC-8, John_ C wrote:
>>
>> I'm curios about the 52 myself. I'm 5'6 and about a 29" inseam. Thinking
>> of setting up with a Billie or Bosco to bring the reach back. 52 sound
>> about right?
>>
>> On Sunday, January 5, 2020 at 1:37:54 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>> How tall is she? That 52 is a big bike.
>>
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[RBW] Re: The last of the phenomenal Clem H’s

[Rob Kristoff]

Jason, 
great bike. LOVE the pink highlight!

Rob

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[RBW] Re: The last of the phenomenal Clem H’s

[Jason Fuller]

John_C - I highly, highly recommend going with the 45.  The 52 is massive, 
much larger than a 52 has any right being. I am 5'8.5" with s 30.5" inseam 
and I fit the 45 quite well.  It'll be perfect for you.  With a Billie / 
Bosco you'll want a longer stem but it'll overall fit MUCH better in my 
opinion 

On Sunday, 5 January 2020 14:40:15 UTC-8, John_ C wrote:
>
> I'm curios about the 52 myself. I'm 5'6 and about a 29" inseam. Thinking 
> of setting up with a Billie or Bosco to bring the reach back. 52 sound 
> about right? 
>
> On Sunday, January 5, 2020 at 1:37:54 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> How tall is she? That 52 is a big bike. 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: The last of the phenomenal Clem H’s

['Keith Swanson' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Sorry-hit the wrong thread. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 5, 2020, at 2:59 PM, Keith Swanson  wrote:
> 
> I’m 5’5 with a 29” inseam, pbh 77.5  and am trying to dial in my 52.  I 
> think I’ll get it there but would probably have gone with a 45 in hindsight. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Jan 5, 2020, at 2:40 PM, John_ C  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> I'm curios about the 52 myself. I'm 5'6 and about a 29" inseam. Thinking of 
>> setting up with a Billie or Bosco to bring the reach back. 52 sound about 
>> right? 
>> 
>>> On Sunday, January 5, 2020 at 1:37:54 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>> How tall is she? That 52 is a big bike.
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Re: [RBW] Re: The last of the phenomenal Clem H’s

['Keith Swanson' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I’m 5’5 with a 29” inseam, pbh 77.5  and am trying to dial in my 52.  I think 
I’ll get it there but would probably have gone with a 45 in hindsight. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 5, 2020, at 2:40 PM, John_ C  wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm curios about the 52 myself. I'm 5'6 and about a 29" inseam. Thinking of 
> setting up with a Billie or Bosco to bring the reach back. 52 sound about 
> right? 
> 
>> On Sunday, January 5, 2020 at 1:37:54 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
>> How tall is she? That 52 is a big bike.
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[RBW] Re: The last of the phenomenal Clem H’s

[Joe Bernard]

John C,

You're about my height, maybe a smidge shorter, so the 52 is a definite maybe. 
I need a bolt-upright style and my 52 H was too stretched out for me with the 
stock Boscos/12cm stem setup. Whether it would work for you depends a lot on 
how much forward lean you prefer.  

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[RBW] Re: The last of the phenomenal Clem H’s

[John_ C]

I'm curios about the 52 myself. I'm 5'6 and about a 29" inseam. Thinking of 
setting up with a Billie or Bosco to bring the reach back. 52 sound about 
right? 

On Sunday, January 5, 2020 at 1:37:54 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
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> How tall is she? That 52 is a big bike. 

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[RBW] Re: The last of the phenomenal Clem H’s

[Joe Bernard]

Ah, yep, spot on. I just sold my 52 H to a guy same dimensions and it looked 
like it was built custom for him. 

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[RBW] Re: The last of the phenomenal Clem H’s

[tc]

The 52 would be perfect. She’s 5’-10” with a 88.7 PBH...long femurs. She rides 
a 58 Sam now, and has ridden my 59 Clem H, but it’s a hair too long. 

Tom

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[RBW] Re: The last of the phenomenal Clem H’s

[Joe Bernard]

How tall is she? That 52 is a big bike. 

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[RBW] Re: The last of the phenomenal Clem H’s

[tc]

Oops - right Joe, $750 for the 45s. Thanks 🤥

Trying to talk my wife into one of the 52s ... Slap some Switchback Hills on 
there and it’d be like driving a Cadillac.  

Tom

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[RBW] Re: The last of the phenomenal Clem H’s

[Joe Bernard]

$750 for the 45s, just so people don't get their receipt and think something 
went wrong. Which is still a crazy price for a great frame. 

If you're in the market pay close attention to the current geometry page and 
ignore the height recs on the Clem pages, the 45cm has more toptube length than 
the first gens. I thought my 45 L might be a smidge small for me (5'-7") but 
it's perfect. Go buy one!  

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[RBW] Re: The last of the phenomenal Clem H’s

[tc]

Right, and the 45s are on sale for  ***$700*** which is just crazy.  The 
52s and 59s are $900 apiece, but still such a friggin' bargain, I can't 
believe they're still available.

Tom

On Sunday, January 5, 2020 at 2:45:43 PM UTC-5, Philip Williamson wrote:
>
> Those are really hard to find on the site. It looks like there are only 5 
> dark green ones left, and it isn’t even noon. 
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/clem-smith-jr-h-frameset 
>
> Philip 
> Santa Rosa, CA

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[RBW] Re: The last of the phenomenal Clem H’s

[Julian Westerhout]

They are indeed wonderful bikes. I have a 64 H and love it. 

Those of lesser leg length should definitely seize the opportunity to get 
one! 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Sunday, January 5, 2020 at 12:07:33 PM UTC-6, tc wrote:
>
> As of this morning, there are only a precious few Clem H frames left: 
> 45: 2 green franes 
> 52: 3 green frames 
> 59: 3 grilver frames 
>
> After these are gone, that’s it for the Clem H.   
>
> I know there are a lot of L frame lovers out there for various reasons, 
> but you should not discount the H.  Unbelievable value, awesome bike for 
> the money! 
>
> Tom

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