[RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed
Hi Michael, unhappy how? I was thinking of getting the most expensive SRAM 8 speed I can find, which seems to be about $15 (the 850), because I like the gear ratios better than Shimano's. Now you have me worried, as my current cassette on the Sam is an Ultegra, and indeed shifts dream- like. I may overshift a gear occasionally, but the chain never jumps back and forth nor makes any noise whatsoever. Gernot On Oct 30, 3:22 am, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: I use silver shifters and 9 speed. I have been very happy with it. I tried using an inexpensive sram cassette and chain and was very, very unhappy with it. When I returned to the good Ultegra cassette and conex 908 chain I returned to excellent shifting. I use Dura Ace indexed bar ends and a 9 speed set up on my tandem but find that the silvers out perform the DA. I also try to use the shortest cage derailler I can get away with. I had very good shifting with a mid length Centaur, but when I switched to a CD, I purchased the new Shimano short cage and find I never miss a shift and only very rarely have to trim the rear derailler. I don't see how it could get better than that! Michael On Oct 28, 10:44 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Thinking of replacing a Shimano 9 speed cassette with an 8. Shifters are Silvers. Do I need to upgrade the 9 sp Sram chain to an 8 sp as well? My hunch is that with friction I won't notice a difference. Has anyone tried this? Am I being silly? I have 3 bikes with 9 speed, and one in storage with 7. Should I just leave well enough alone? I find the Silvers shift great most of the time, though sometimes I shift two gears when I intend to only shift one (not a big deal with a close ratio cassette). The Shimano barends on another bike don't shift so well in friction on 9 speed, but I did just order another pair of Silvers. Just curious how much better Silvers shift over 8 compared to 9 speeds, and whether that would be further improved by using an 8 sp chain. Thanks, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed
I am using a SRAM PG 850 series 11-32 cassette (silver) with DA 9 speed barends in friction mode and it works fine, a little slop here and there but that is probably user error as I haven't been frictioning all that long. The thing I like about the 8 speed setup is that I can get the SRAM 850 cassette and chain for under $40 total before shipping with just a little shopping. Amazon has them in that range pretty regularly. Try doing that in 9 speed. Ryan On Oct 30, 10:48 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Michael, unhappy how? I was thinking of getting the most expensive SRAM 8 speed I can find, which seems to be about $15 (the 850), because I like the gear ratios better than Shimano's. Now you have me worried, as my current cassette on the Sam is an Ultegra, and indeed shifts dream- like. I may overshift a gear occasionally, but the chain never jumps back and forth nor makes any noise whatsoever. Gernot On Oct 30, 3:22 am, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: I use silver shifters and 9 speed. I have been very happy with it. I tried using an inexpensive sram cassette and chain and was very, very unhappy with it. When I returned to the good Ultegra cassette and conex 908 chain I returned to excellent shifting. I use Dura Ace indexed bar ends and a 9 speed set up on my tandem but find that the silvers out perform the DA. I also try to use the shortest cage derailler I can get away with. I had very good shifting with a mid length Centaur, but when I switched to a CD, I purchased the new Shimano short cage and find I never miss a shift and only very rarely have to trim the rear derailler. I don't see how it could get better than that! Michael On Oct 28, 10:44 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Thinking of replacing a Shimano 9 speed cassette with an 8. Shifters are Silvers. Do I need to upgrade the 9 sp Sram chain to an 8 sp as well? My hunch is that with friction I won't notice a difference. Has anyone tried this? Am I being silly? I have 3 bikes with 9 speed, and one in storage with 7. Should I just leave well enough alone? I find the Silvers shift great most of the time, though sometimes I shift two gears when I intend to only shift one (not a big deal with a close ratio cassette). The Shimano barends on another bike don't shift so well in friction on 9 speed, but I did just order another pair of Silvers. Just curious how much better Silvers shift over 8 compared to 9 speeds, and whether that would be further improved by using an 8 sp chain. Thanks, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed
On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 20:35 -0700, Stonehog wrote: I agree - 8 is worth it, but 7 is even slightly better with the silvers. For the swap to 8, all you need to do is the cassette. Plus, the ratios available with 7 are superior (there are no stock 8s that start with 13, in fact about the only wide range 8s available now start with the utterly useless 11), and if you use a spacer behind a 7 you can use all 7 sprockets on the big ring without excessive cross-chaining issues. In this case, less is definitely more. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed
I'd use 7sp cassettes if the selection were a bit better and the quality a bit higher. For now, I'm using 8sp... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed
If one goes from 8 to 7 speed does the rear derailer set screw need to be adjusted or do the limits remain the same? I've been using a Sheldon Century Special 8 speed cassette on my Hilsen but have thought of going to 7 speed in the future, just sorta curious about set-up. On Oct 29, 4:08 am, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 20:35 -0700, Stonehog wrote: I agree - 8 is worth it, but 7 is even slightly better with the silvers. For the swap to 8, all you need to do is the cassette. Plus, the ratios available with 7 are superior (there are no stock 8s that start with 13, in fact about the only wide range 8s available now start with the utterly useless 11), and if you use a spacer behind a 7 you can use all 7 sprockets on the big ring without excessive cross-chaining issues. In this case, less is definitely more. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed
I went from 9 to 8 using Silver shifters and the move to 8 has been an improvement for me. I have a 7-spd freewheel (and Silver shifters) on my other bike, and that works real well, too. I like the 7, but not better than the 8. Not worse, either. -- Forrest On Oct 28, 9:44 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Thinking of replacing a Shimano 9 speed cassette with an 8. Shifters are Silvers. Do I need to upgrade the 9 sp Sram chain to an 8 sp as well? My hunch is that with friction I won't notice a difference. Has anyone tried this? Am I being silly? I have 3 bikes with 9 speed, and one in storage with 7. Should I just leave well enough alone? I find the Silvers shift great most of the time, though sometimes I shift two gears when I intend to only shift one (not a big deal with a close ratio cassette). The Shimano barends on another bike don't shift so well in friction on 9 speed, but I did just order another pair of Silvers. Just curious how much better Silvers shift over 8 compared to 9 speeds, and whether that would be further improved by using an 8 sp chain. Thanks, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed
yes, the upper limit screw has to be adjusted as 7 speed casettes are narrower than 8 or 9. That was the only thing I did switching from 9 to 7. ~Mike~ On Oct 29, 7:18 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: If one goes from 8 to 7 speed does the rear derailer set screw need to be adjusted or do the limits remain the same? I've been using a Sheldon Century Special 8 speed cassette on my Hilsen but have thought of going to 7 speed in the future, just sorta curious about set-up. On Oct 29, 4:08 am, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 20:35 -0700, Stonehog wrote: I agree - 8 is worth it, but 7 is even slightly better with the silvers. For the swap to 8, all you need to do is the cassette. Plus, the ratios available with 7 are superior (there are no stock 8s that start with 13, in fact about the only wide range 8s available now start with the utterly useless 11), and if you use a spacer behind a 7 you can use all 7 sprockets on the big ring without excessive cross-chaining issues. In this case, less is definitely more.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed
Also, the spacer you put behind the 7sp cassette (on an 8sp freehub body) will change the alignment. So, adjusting the limit screws is definitely necessary. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed
I use silver shifters and 9 speed. I have been very happy with it. I tried using an inexpensive sram cassette and chain and was very, very unhappy with it. When I returned to the good Ultegra cassette and conex 908 chain I returned to excellent shifting. I use Dura Ace indexed bar ends and a 9 speed set up on my tandem but find that the silvers out perform the DA. I also try to use the shortest cage derailler I can get away with. I had very good shifting with a mid length Centaur, but when I switched to a CD, I purchased the new Shimano short cage and find I never miss a shift and only very rarely have to trim the rear derailler. I don't see how it could get better than that! Michael On Oct 28, 10:44 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Thinking of replacing a Shimano 9 speed cassette with an 8. Shifters are Silvers. Do I need to upgrade the 9 sp Sram chain to an 8 sp as well? My hunch is that with friction I won't notice a difference. Has anyone tried this? Am I being silly? I have 3 bikes with 9 speed, and one in storage with 7. Should I just leave well enough alone? I find the Silvers shift great most of the time, though sometimes I shift two gears when I intend to only shift one (not a big deal with a close ratio cassette). The Shimano barends on another bike don't shift so well in friction on 9 speed, but I did just order another pair of Silvers. Just curious how much better Silvers shift over 8 compared to 9 speeds, and whether that would be further improved by using an 8 sp chain. Thanks, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed
On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 07:18 -0700, Mike wrote: If one goes from 8 to 7 speed does the rear derailer set screw need to be adjusted or do the limits remain the same? I've been using a Sheldon Century Special 8 speed cassette on my Hilsen but have thought of going to 7 speed in the future, just sorta curious about set-up. You'll need a spacer behind the cassette and you definitely will need to adjust the limit screw, because the 7 speed cassette is not as wide as the 8. They increased the standard for OLN width to 130 when they went to 8. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed
On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 06:12 -0700, Ginz wrote: I'd use 7sp cassettes if the selection were a bit better and the quality a bit higher. For now, I'm using 8sp... The selection of 7 spd cassettes is every bit as good today as it was when they first came out, except that pretty much the silver HG70s are gone. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed
Are the very cheap black ones as durable as the more expensive ones? On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 06:12 -0700, Ginz wrote: I'd use 7sp cassettes if the selection were a bit better and the quality a bit higher. For now, I'm using 8sp... The selection of 7 spd cassettes is every bit as good today as it was when they first came out, except that pretty much the silver HG70s are gone. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed
On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 17:03 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: Are the very cheap black ones as durable as the more expensive ones? I presume by very cheap you refer to the HG50s. AFAIK they're very bit as durable as the HG70s, except not as shiny and pretty looking. Compared to 10-speed cassettes, all 7s could be called very cheap. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed
Harris has a good selection of 7 speeds for around $30. They mention they are black the silver finish is no longer available. Not sure if that has anything to do with quality. Lots of them have a 13 smallest cog the 14-32 is still available. 8 speed standards are also $30 but you'd have to buy 2 and put them together to get a decent cassette like a 13-30 or 13-32. Harris makes their custom cassettes by doing just that and charging $60. dougP On Oct 29, 3:56 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 06:12 -0700, Ginz wrote: I'd use 7sp cassettes if the selection were a bit better and the quality a bit higher. For now, I'm using 8sp... The selection of 7 spd cassettes is every bit as good today as it was when they first came out, except that pretty much the silver HG70s are gone. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 5:11 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: What are the best combos, 7 or 8, for a 15-17-20-22-26-34? Patrick only partly in jest Moore 8 speed standards are also $30 but you'd have to buy 2 and put them together to get a decent cassette like a 13-30 or 13-32. Harris makes their custom cassettes by doing just that and charging $60. dougP On Oct 29, 3:56 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 06:12 -0700, Ginz wrote: I'd use 7sp cassettes if the selection were a bit better and the quality a bit higher. For now, I'm using 8sp... The selection of 7 spd cassettes is every bit as good today as it was when they first came out, except that pretty much the silver HG70s are gone. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed
I don't know from 50s but I mean the black ones, like that 7 sp I bought full lbs pop for about $30 including tax. Not only is mine not shiny, it is that light-absorbing matt black (or perhaps ultra-midnite brown, I'm a bit color blind) which is pretty or not as you prefer. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 17:03 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: Are the very cheap black ones as durable as the more expensive ones? I presume by very cheap you refer to the HG50s. AFAIK they're very bit as durable as the HG70s, except not as shiny and pretty looking. Compared to 10-speed cassettes, all 7s could be called very cheap. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed
If you look around on the Net you can find some Falcone 7 and 8 speed freewheels that are silver. I have a couple of them and they are, surpirisingly good quality. They evidently only export the cheaper stuff to N. America for Huffy but mine has HG type shifting ramps and a nice chrome plate on the cogs. I have a 13-28 in both a 7 speed and 8 speed freewheel. They do use a strange remover tool but that is available. The common splined one almost works but will strip the splines if it is tight on the wheel On Oct 30, 7:35 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know from 50s but I mean the black ones, like that 7 sp I bought full lbs pop for about $30 including tax. Not only is mine not shiny, it is that light-absorbing matt black (or perhaps ultra-midnite brown, I'm a bit color blind) which is pretty or not as you prefer. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 17:03 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: Are the very cheap black ones as durable as the more expensive ones? I presume by very cheap you refer to the HG50s. AFAIK they're very bit as durable as the HG70s, except not as shiny and pretty looking. Compared to 10-speed cassettes, all 7s could be called very cheap. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed
Ditto..I managed to get a really nice SRAM 7 speed cassette 12-32 for under $30. Just shop Amazon and you can find them easy enough. I wanted a 13-30 and could have purchased one but the SRAM is a nice shiny silver. I don't think there is much difference in quality. They are just steel cogs that fit on a splined shaft with a lock ring, all the bearings are on the hub. For a different bike I purchased a Shimano for $40 from my local bike shop (12-28) in black and the quality seemed great. On Oct 29, 4:35 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know from 50s but I mean the black ones, like that 7 sp I bought full lbs pop for about $30 including tax. Not only is mine not shiny, it is that light-absorbing matt black (or perhaps ultra-midnite brown, I'm a bit color blind) which is pretty or not as you prefer. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 17:03 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: Are the very cheap black ones as durable as the more expensive ones? I presume by very cheap you refer to the HG50s. AFAIK they're very bit as durable as the HG70s, except not as shiny and pretty looking. Compared to 10-speed cassettes, all 7s could be called very cheap. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed
why don't you go all the way to the top and go 7 speed? The chain won't be an issue IMO. I've used a 9 speed chain on a 7 speed Suntour cassette ( friction of course) and it shifts flawlessly. Ive read that the interior spacing is essentially the same between 7, 8 and 9 speed chains. ~Mike~ On Oct 28, 7:44 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Thinking of replacing a Shimano 9 speed cassette with an 8. Shifters are Silvers. Do I need to upgrade the 9 sp Sram chain to an 8 sp as well? My hunch is that with friction I won't notice a difference. Has anyone tried this? Am I being silly? I have 3 bikes with 9 speed, and one in storage with 7. Should I just leave well enough alone? I find the Silvers shift great most of the time, though sometimes I shift two gears when I intend to only shift one (not a big deal with a close ratio cassette). The Shimano barends on another bike don't shift so well in friction on 9 speed, but I did just order another pair of Silvers. Just curious how much better Silvers shift over 8 compared to 9 speeds, and whether that would be further improved by using an 8 sp chain. Thanks, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed
I find that I prefer a narrow chain on a wider cassette spacing when I am friction shifting. The shifts are still quick and smooth enough. I have 6 speeds or less on all but one bike, the Rawland. I find that I need to be much more precise with the 9 sp to keep the casette noise and rubbing down on the less precise shits by the operator. When I was switching over to more of the IRD freewhels in the stable I happened to have a surplus of 9sp chains, so I used them and never looked back. I tried an 8 series chain once on the freewheels and have decided to stay with the 9 series Sram chains. silence is golden Rob - http://oceanaircycles.com/ On Oct 28, 7:44 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Thinking of replacing a Shimano 9 speed cassette with an 8. Shifters are Silvers. Do I need to upgrade the 9 sp Sram chain to an 8 sp as well? My hunch is that with friction I won't notice a difference. Has anyone tried this? Am I being silly? I have 3 bikes with 9 speed, and one in storage with 7. Should I just leave well enough alone? I find the Silvers shift great most of the time, though sometimes I shift two gears when I intend to only shift one (not a big deal with a close ratio cassette). The Shimano barends on another bike don't shift so well in friction on 9 speed, but I did just order another pair of Silvers. Just curious how much better Silvers shift over 8 compared to 9 speeds, and whether that would be further improved by using an 8 sp chain. Thanks, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed
I agree - 8 is worth it, but 7 is even slightly better with the silvers. For the swap to 8, all you need to do is the cassette. Mobile Brian Hanson On Oct 28, 2010, at 7:51 PM, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: why don't you go all the way to the top and go 7 speed? The chain won't be an issue IMO. I've used a 9 speed chain on a 7 speed Suntour cassette ( friction of course) and it shifts flawlessly. Ive read that the interior spacing is essentially the same between 7, 8 and 9 speed chains. ~Mike~ On Oct 28, 7:44 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Thinking of replacing a Shimano 9 speed cassette with an 8. Shifters are Silvers. Do I need to upgrade the 9 sp Sram chain to an 8 sp as well? My hunch is that with friction I won't notice a difference. Has anyone tried this? Am I being silly? I have 3 bikes with 9 speed, and one in storage with 7. Should I just leave well enough alone? I find the Silvers shift great most of the time, though sometimes I shift two gears when I intend to only shift one (not a big deal with a close ratio cassette). The Shimano barends on another bike don't shift so well in friction on 9 speed, but I did just order another pair of Silvers. Just curious how much better Silvers shift over 8 compared to 9 speeds, and whether that would be further improved by using an 8 sp chain. Thanks, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
