[RBW] Re: Using my Sam as a commuter
Commuting makes up the majority of my riding. I'm usually on my BDB Pelican, which was built up purposefully for the ride into work and beyond. But the Protovelo goes in once a week at least, and sometimes the Quickbeam. http://veloflaneur.wordpress.com/2012/04/11/commuting-with-a-touring-bike/ Esteban San Diego, Calif. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Using my Sam as a commuter
Thanks, Tim. Yes it is a Nitto M-12. Now that I'm retired the 'commute' varies a lot. Good luck with the wheel. David On Apr 10, 2014, at 3:33 PM, Tim Gavin tim.ga...@littlevillagemag.com wrote: Nice bike, David. Is that a Nitto M-12 on the front of the Miyata? I like the look. I commute (9 miles each way) on my Rivendell Road, but I have a sheltered, relatively out of sight rack at work. Plus, I use an Abus Ionus 8900 lock; with Abus' maxiumum strength rating, it's about as indestructible as locks get. :) Also, it weighs about 4 pounds. :( I occasionally rotate my Schwinn KOM and Giordana into commuting duty. Which I'm forced to do now because: Tuesday, on my first bike commute of the year (first morning above freezing), I hit a particularly abrupt sidewalk gap (like 2 vertical) and bent my rear rim. :( I just built this wheel up a couple weeks ago, and now I already have to replace the rim (Velocity Synergy 650b OC). Note the lack of brake pad wear. You can really see the flat spot, like a letter D, in the second photo. Tim, wheelbuilding (again) in IA IMG_0487.JPGIMG_0488.JPG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Using my Sam as a commuter
In the spirit of discussing the beautility of bikes, I thought this bunch might appreciate Ivan Illich on Carshttp://ranprieur.com/readings/illichcars.html. Hooray for the supreme efficiency of human-powered transport! On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 6:28:08 AM UTC-4, blakcloud wrote: This weeks experiment, well maybe the next two weeks, will be using my Sam Hillborne as a commuter. I built the bike up as a leisurely Sunday bike to ride with my wife though I started thinking the bike could do more. I was inspired by a thread last year Could you own one bike? The answer for me was no, but I could trim down the number of bikes I own. I want to minimize and plus I don't have room as I live in a condo and bike parking has become an issue. There hasn't been a lot of talk about using Riv's as commuters on this board and even Rivendell doesn't seem to push the commuting aspect for their bikes. The Sam to me, might make a good commuter. My commutes are 60 minutes each way, so nothing drastic. It is set up with Albatross's and a Brooks B67, plus the required basket and Mark's rack. The bike currently has Hetre's but I think I will use a pair of Marathons that I also own. I will pick up SKS Longboards today and if the experiment works, a new dynamo front wheel will be built. Ninety five percent of my cycling is commuting so I really need to like the bike I ride. I am hoping the Sam will fit that bill. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Using my Sam as a commuter
I've only commuted by bike in a sprawling city (Greensboro, NC) for the past 4 years and have put over 10,000 miles on my Sam in the two years I've had it. 90-95% of my riding is utilitarian commuting, usually carrying 10-20 lbs. in panniers, and i absolutely love the Sam as a commuter. I actually have a Quickbeam (first Riv) but can no longer justify owning it because the Sam just fits so perfectly and does everything really, really well. If you're interested in new bags, I would highly recommend the Swift Industries Roll Top Pannier setup as well. They are waterproof (regular cordura version), CAPACIOUS (just one is almost always enough for me) and the backpack option is nice as well. I just got a brand new dyno hub to upgrade from my SON classic to the SON Wide Body, and it's a gorgeous, strong and light-enough wheel. I would highly recommend going Schmidt if you're going to commit to making the bike a viable car alternative, which it of course sounds like you are. I'm also planning on upgrading to the Edelux II from the original soon because brighter is better! http://imgur.com/rUTGg3u On Thursday, April 10, 2014 1:45:30 AM UTC-4, Benedikt wrote: I do everything with my Sam. Group rides, century rides, errands and commuting to work everyday. The Seattle rain and road grit does eat through drive trains but a lot less money then I'd spend on a car. On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 3:28:08 AM UTC-7, blakcloud wrote: This weeks experiment, well maybe the next two weeks, will be using my Sam Hillborne as a commuter. I built the bike up as a leisurely Sunday bike to ride with my wife though I started thinking the bike could do more. I was inspired by a thread last year Could you own one bike? The answer for me was no, but I could trim down the number of bikes I own. I want to minimize and plus I don't have room as I live in a condo and bike parking has become an issue. There hasn't been a lot of talk about using Riv's as commuters on this board and even Rivendell doesn't seem to push the commuting aspect for their bikes. The Sam to me, might make a good commuter. My commutes are 60 minutes each way, so nothing drastic. It is set up with Albatross's and a Brooks B67, plus the required basket and Mark's rack. The bike currently has Hetre's but I think I will use a pair of Marathons that I also own. I will pick up SKS Longboards today and if the experiment works, a new dynamo front wheel will be built. Ninety five percent of my cycling is commuting so I really need to like the bike I ride. I am hoping the Sam will fit that bill. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Using my Sam as a commuter
Actually, I think the idea of Rivendell-as-commuter is pretty strongly woven into the fabric here. I would agree that there has not been much recent conversation on that specific single topic, but know there are a bunch of us who do so. And any day you visit the RBWHQL, you'll find staff bikes regularly parked in the lot. A flickr group: https://www.flickr.com/groups/rivendellcommuters/ Photos from the lot: https://www.flickr.com/groups/rbwstaffbikes/ One of the threads which has popped up from time to time is how to secure a comparatively nicer bike at work - and many group members are lucky enough to have cubicle or office space, or actual secured parking available to them. - Jim / cyclofiend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Using my Sam as a commuter
Right...well my beaters are my Peugeot PX10 SS and my 1993 X0-1. They look beat-up, especially the Peugeot. They run great, though. I'm a snob, though. Life is too short to waste on a bike you don't like riding...never mind the looks On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 3:36:11 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: J: my solution to the matter of a beater that can be stolen without tragedy has been to find old but nice bikes that as closely as possible imitate my good ones. The old Motobecane that I sold to Eric Norris (it was stolen in that the price was a steal) was one such, and I have had many others. One great fun one was an old sport-tourer Raleigh Technium that I picked up very cheap and built even cheaper. i don't know why they bothered with the aluminum, since it was a huge tank, and as noodley as a -- noodle; but with fattish 32 mm tires and a 68 fixed gear, it was a fun ride. I realize that one can have fun riding just about anything -- well, there are some exceptions -- but life is too short to waste most of your riding on something that isn't fun enough. My gawd, man, get yourself a bike that fits, at least! On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Kieran J kjo...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: Blakcloud, you and me both know the knarly streets of Toronto eats nice bikes for breakfast. I too have gradually eased my stress on having a bike stolen and/or damaged when out and about, but it has taken awhile. I've only had a bike stolen once - an old Bianchi that I thought I had locked up, but hadn't (at Yonge and Dundas Square where all the crackheads hang out, no less). So more on me than anyone else. D'oh! I also get the desire to ride a bike you like. My 95% of riding (commuting) is done on a too-small Cross Check, which certainly is my least-fav bike in my stable. On top of that, I have a porteur rack and big Wald on the front of it, which needless to say, does not improve the handling. BUT! if something happened to it, I would also be the least upset and would get over it. I also rode it right through the winter, and had few qualms exposing it to all of that hell. After riding the Ram all weekend, it sure was hard going back onto that Surly tank Monday morning. But so it goes.. KJ On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 6:28:08 AM UTC-4, blakcloud wrote: This weeks experiment, well maybe the next two weeks, will be using my Sam Hillborne as a commuter. I built the bike up as a leisurely Sunday bike to ride with my wife though I started thinking the bike could do more. I was inspired by a thread last year Could you own one bike? The answer for me was no, but I could trim down the number of bikes I own. I want to minimize and plus I don't have room as I live in a condo and bike parking has become an issue. There hasn't been a lot of talk about using Riv's as commuters on this board and even Rivendell doesn't seem to push the commuting aspect for their bikes. The Sam to me, might make a good commuter. My commutes are 60 minutes each way, so nothing drastic. It is set up with Albatross's and a Brooks B67, plus the required basket and Mark's rack. The bike currently has Hetre's but I think I will use a pair of Marathons that I also own. I will pick up SKS Longboards today and if the experiment works, a new dynamo front wheel will be built. Ninety five percent of my cycling is commuting so I really need to like the bike I ride. I am hoping the Sam will fit that bill. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Using my Sam as a commuter
I'm doing the same-often leaving my Homer safe at home and taking my lugged Miyata Triple Cross set up with Nitto Gran Randonneur bars, Suntour bar end shifters. Pasela 700x35 tires and VO hammered fenders. It's still rides well and is nice to look at but if I get distracted in a shop and linger over lunch and come out and find it gone... Still love my Homer more. David url=https://flic.kr/p/mYjzdr][img]https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3717/13764482885_0af7ced5cc.jpg[/img On Thursday, April 10, 2014 1:51:44 PM UTC-4, Ryan wrote: Right...well my beaters are my Peugeot PX10 SS and my 1993 X0-1. They look beat-up, especially the Peugeot. They run great, though. I'm a snob, though. Life is too short to waste on a bike you don't like riding...never mind the looks On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 3:36:11 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: J: my solution to the matter of a beater that can be stolen without tragedy has been to find old but nice bikes that as closely as possible imitate my good ones. The old Motobecane that I sold to Eric Norris (it was stolen in that the price was a steal) was one such, and I have had many others. One great fun one was an old sport-tourer Raleigh Technium that I picked up very cheap and built even cheaper. i don't know why they bothered with the aluminum, since it was a huge tank, and as noodley as a -- noodle; but with fattish 32 mm tires and a 68 fixed gear, it was a fun ride. I realize that one can have fun riding just about anything -- well, there are some exceptions -- but life is too short to waste most of your riding on something that isn't fun enough. My gawd, man, get yourself a bike that fits, at least! On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Kieran J kjo...@gmail.com wrote: Blakcloud, you and me both know the knarly streets of Toronto eats nice bikes for breakfast. I too have gradually eased my stress on having a bike stolen and/or damaged when out and about, but it has taken awhile. I've only had a bike stolen once - an old Bianchi that I thought I had locked up, but hadn't (at Yonge and Dundas Square where all the crackheads hang out, no less). So more on me than anyone else. D'oh! I also get the desire to ride a bike you like. My 95% of riding (commuting) is done on a too-small Cross Check, which certainly is my least-fav bike in my stable. On top of that, I have a porteur rack and big Wald on the front of it, which needless to say, does not improve the handling. BUT! if something happened to it, I would also be the least upset and would get over it. I also rode it right through the winter, and had few qualms exposing it to all of that hell. After riding the Ram all weekend, it sure was hard going back onto that Surly tank Monday morning. But so it goes.. KJ On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 6:28:08 AM UTC-4, blakcloud wrote: This weeks experiment, well maybe the next two weeks, will be using my Sam Hillborne as a commuter. I built the bike up as a leisurely Sunday bike to ride with my wife though I started thinking the bike could do more. I was inspired by a thread last year Could you own one bike? The answer for me was no, but I could trim down the number of bikes I own. I want to minimize and plus I don't have room as I live in a condo and bike parking has become an issue. There hasn't been a lot of talk about using Riv's as commuters on this board and even Rivendell doesn't seem to push the commuting aspect for their bikes. The Sam to me, might make a good commuter. My commutes are 60 minutes each way, so nothing drastic. It is set up with Albatross's and a Brooks B67, plus the required basket and Mark's rack. The bike currently has Hetre's but I think I will use a pair of Marathons that I also own. I will pick up SKS Longboards today and if the experiment works, a new dynamo front wheel will be built. Ninety five percent of my cycling is commuting so I really need to like the bike I ride. I am hoping the Sam will fit that bill. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,
Re: [RBW] Re: Using my Sam as a commuter
Sorry link should be: https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3717/13764482885_0af7ced5cc.jpg David On Thursday, April 10, 2014 3:10:05 PM UTC-4, David Hays wrote: I'm doing the same-often leaving my Homer safe at home and taking my lugged Miyata Triple Cross set up with Nitto Gran Randonneur bars, Suntour bar end shifters. Pasela 700x35 tires and VO hammered fenders. It's still rides well and is nice to look at but if I get distracted in a shop and linger over lunch and come out and find it gone... Still love my Homer more. David url= https://flic.kr/p/mYjzdr][img]https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3717/13764482885_0af7ced5cc.jpg[/img On Thursday, April 10, 2014 1:51:44 PM UTC-4, Ryan wrote: Right...well my beaters are my Peugeot PX10 SS and my 1993 X0-1. They look beat-up, especially the Peugeot. They run great, though. I'm a snob, though. Life is too short to waste on a bike you don't like riding...never mind the looks On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 3:36:11 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: J: my solution to the matter of a beater that can be stolen without tragedy has been to find old but nice bikes that as closely as possible imitate my good ones. The old Motobecane that I sold to Eric Norris (it was stolen in that the price was a steal) was one such, and I have had many others. One great fun one was an old sport-tourer Raleigh Technium that I picked up very cheap and built even cheaper. i don't know why they bothered with the aluminum, since it was a huge tank, and as noodley as a -- noodle; but with fattish 32 mm tires and a 68 fixed gear, it was a fun ride. I realize that one can have fun riding just about anything -- well, there are some exceptions -- but life is too short to waste most of your riding on something that isn't fun enough. My gawd, man, get yourself a bike that fits, at least! On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Kieran J kjo...@gmail.com wrote: Blakcloud, you and me both know the knarly streets of Toronto eats nice bikes for breakfast. I too have gradually eased my stress on having a bike stolen and/or damaged when out and about, but it has taken awhile. I've only had a bike stolen once - an old Bianchi that I thought I had locked up, but hadn't (at Yonge and Dundas Square where all the crackheads hang out, no less). So more on me than anyone else. D'oh! I also get the desire to ride a bike you like. My 95% of riding (commuting) is done on a too-small Cross Check, which certainly is my least-fav bike in my stable. On top of that, I have a porteur rack and big Wald on the front of it, which needless to say, does not improve the handling. BUT! if something happened to it, I would also be the least upset and would get over it. I also rode it right through the winter, and had few qualms exposing it to all of that hell. After riding the Ram all weekend, it sure was hard going back onto that Surly tank Monday morning. But so it goes.. KJ On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 6:28:08 AM UTC-4, blakcloud wrote: This weeks experiment, well maybe the next two weeks, will be using my Sam Hillborne as a commuter. I built the bike up as a leisurely Sunday bike to ride with my wife though I started thinking the bike could do more. I was inspired by a thread last year Could you own one bike? The answer for me was no, but I could trim down the number of bikes I own. I want to minimize and plus I don't have room as I live in a condo and bike parking has become an issue. There hasn't been a lot of talk about using Riv's as commuters on this board and even Rivendell doesn't seem to push the commuting aspect for their bikes. The Sam to me, might make a good commuter. My commutes are 60 minutes each way, so nothing drastic. It is set up with Albatross's and a Brooks B67, plus the required basket and Mark's rack. The bike currently has Hetre's but I think I will use a pair of Marathons that I also own. I will pick up SKS Longboards today and if the experiment works, a new dynamo front wheel will be built. Ninety five percent of my cycling is commuting so I really need to like the bike I ride. I am hoping the Sam will fit that bill. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW
Re: [RBW] Re: Using my Sam as a commuter
Those sound like outstanding beaters. Pics? In fact, we need to start a nice beater commuter album. I set up one from the iBoblist a few years ago, but it disappeared into the ether when I cancelled my Picassa account in righteous indignation at their last upgrade. One of my favorites in that album was someone's faux Ram with the color supplied by judicious wrappings of orange duct tape. On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Ryan ryter...@mts.net wrote: Right...well my beaters are my Peugeot PX10 SS and my 1993 X0-1. They look beat-up, especially the Peugeot. They run great, though. I'm a snob, though. Life is too short to waste on a bike you don't like riding...never mind the looks -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Using my Sam as a commuter
not a bad idea...not much of a photographer. unlike many of the taleneted photographers in this group who take outstanding pictures .but maybe I'll take it up..maybe I'll work up to posting the Riv princes. On Thursday, April 10, 2014 3:22:47 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: Those sound like outstanding beaters. Pics? In fact, we need to start a nice beater commuter album. I set up one from the iBoblist a few years ago, but it disappeared into the ether when I cancelled my Picassa account in righteous indignation at their last upgrade. One of my favorites in that album was someone's faux Ram with the color supplied by judicious wrappings of orange duct tape. On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Ryan ryte...@mts.net javascript:wrote: Right...well my beaters are my Peugeot PX10 SS and my 1993 X0-1. They look beat-up, especially the Peugeot. They run great, though. I'm a snob, though. Life is too short to waste on a bike you don't like riding...never mind the looks -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Using my Sam as a commuter
i remember searching for a beater to ride around town when I first got my Sam. then it occurred to me i love riding this bike so much why would i want to ride another bike. so i just ride the sam (or now the hunq). i never had a daily commute, but i would ride my sam in the vermont winters. i framesavered and washed it up as best i could after riding in the slush. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Using my Sam as a commuter
When you think of how much wear and tear and depreciation a car has riding even a $5k bike to commute daily makes way more fiscal sense than driving. The bonus of course is you get to ride a bike and not be stuck in a car, so really a win win for commuting by bike, even with a top of the line bike. On Apr 10, 2014 6:53 PM, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: i remember searching for a beater to ride around town when I first got my Sam. then it occurred to me i love riding this bike so much why would i want to ride another bike. so i just ride the sam (or now the hunq). i never had a daily commute, but i would ride my sam in the vermont winters. i framesavered and washed it up as best i could after riding in the slush. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Using my Sam as a commuter
I bus to work and bike home ~3 days a week. My bike is locked in a residential neighborhood in a Schoolyard though. Never had a problem with any of my Rivs and I love the ride of them is rather not ride anything else. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Using my Sam as a commuter
My Betty Foy is a commuter that occasionally lets me go out on longer rides on pavement and smooth trails. I used to feel guilty about that, but not anymore. :) On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 3:28:08 AM UTC-7, blakcloud wrote: This weeks experiment, well maybe the next two weeks, will be using my Sam Hillborne as a commuter. I built the bike up as a leisurely Sunday bike to ride with my wife though I started thinking the bike could do more. I was inspired by a thread last year Could you own one bike? The answer for me was no, but I could trim down the number of bikes I own. I want to minimize and plus I don't have room as I live in a condo and bike parking has become an issue. There hasn't been a lot of talk about using Riv's as commuters on this board and even Rivendell doesn't seem to push the commuting aspect for their bikes. The Sam to me, might make a good commuter. My commutes are 60 minutes each way, so nothing drastic. It is set up with Albatross's and a Brooks B67, plus the required basket and Mark's rack. The bike currently has Hetre's but I think I will use a pair of Marathons that I also own. I will pick up SKS Longboards today and if the experiment works, a new dynamo front wheel will be built. Ninety five percent of my cycling is commuting so I really need to like the bike I ride. I am hoping the Sam will fit that bill. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Using my Sam as a commuter
I'm a bike commuter, ~6 miles one-way into Cambridge MA, ~40-min door-to-door. I'm fortunate to have secure bike parking and a shower at work. My Hunqapillar is setup with Big Bens (559BSD; ~52mm wide), which are terrific over the potholes and debris. I try to take hard-packed dirt trails, and they transition from road-to-trail and back quite well. I have VO ATB fenders to keep me dry. I've used Noodles and bullmoose (non-Bosco), which are setup with cable splitters for easy swaps (takes 10 min). Either are fine, and variety is good... but I think I prefer the Noodles for commuting. There are some stretches where the headwinds can be terrible, and the drop position makes it less unbearable. For luggage, I've moved around from front basket+shop sack to medium saddlesack to small saddlesack and back. I like 'em all! There's no one way for me. I think I could go to one bike, if I was willing to use the Hunqapillar through the slush/salt winter roads. (That stuff's brutal on the mechanicals!) All I know is that I love my commute. Happy riding, Shoji On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 6:28:08 AM UTC-4, blakcloud wrote: This weeks experiment, well maybe the next two weeks, will be using my Sam Hillborne as a commuter. I built the bike up as a leisurely Sunday bike to ride with my wife though I started thinking the bike could do more. I was inspired by a thread last year Could you own one bike? The answer for me was no, but I could trim down the number of bikes I own. I want to minimize and plus I don't have room as I live in a condo and bike parking has become an issue. There hasn't been a lot of talk about using Riv's as commuters on this board and even Rivendell doesn't seem to push the commuting aspect for their bikes. The Sam to me, might make a good commuter. My commutes are 60 minutes each way, so nothing drastic. It is set up with Albatross's and a Brooks B67, plus the required basket and Mark's rack. The bike currently has Hetre's but I think I will use a pair of Marathons that I also own. I will pick up SKS Longboards today and if the experiment works, a new dynamo front wheel will be built. Ninety five percent of my cycling is commuting so I really need to like the bike I ride. I am hoping the Sam will fit that bill. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Using my Sam as a commuter
I commute 30 miles round trip on my Sam Hillborne. Matt On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 3:28:08 AM UTC-7, blakcloud wrote: This weeks experiment, well maybe the next two weeks, will be using my Sam Hillborne as a commuter. I built the bike up as a leisurely Sunday bike to ride with my wife though I started thinking the bike could do more. I was inspired by a thread last year Could you own one bike? The answer for me was no, but I could trim down the number of bikes I own. I want to minimize and plus I don't have room as I live in a condo and bike parking has become an issue. There hasn't been a lot of talk about using Riv's as commuters on this board and even Rivendell doesn't seem to push the commuting aspect for their bikes. The Sam to me, might make a good commuter. My commutes are 60 minutes each way, so nothing drastic. It is set up with Albatross's and a Brooks B67, plus the required basket and Mark's rack. The bike currently has Hetre's but I think I will use a pair of Marathons that I also own. I will pick up SKS Longboards today and if the experiment works, a new dynamo front wheel will be built. Ninety five percent of my cycling is commuting so I really need to like the bike I ride. I am hoping the Sam will fit that bill. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Using my Sam as a commuter
I thought everyone commuted on their Rivs. I bought this Betty with commuting very much in mind. With small kids, I don't get out for long distances, but if I didn't commute to their school/church/the park it wouldn't be ridden much at all! Use that Sam! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Using my Sam as a commuter
All this commentary has me deciding to use the gofast for today's PO run. Just leaving On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 11:06 AM, LeahFoy jonasandle...@gmail.com wrote: I thought everyone commuted on their Rivs. I bought this Betty with commuting very much in mind. With small kids, I don't get out for long distances, but if I didn't commute to their school/church/the park it wouldn't be ridden much at all! Use that Sam! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Using my Sam as a commuter
I'd say if you have a secure place to store it, absolutely,ride it. I think the Sam looks like an awesome commuter. I'd love to ride my Rivs to work, but I'd only do it if I could be sure they were safe. Since one is a custom and the other one's an early Waterford-built A/R, they're not easy to replace. Ideally , if I had an office (I'm a cube serf) I'd keep my Riv in it. We do have a locked cage in the parking lot attached to the building I work in, but it has been broken into on more than one occasion. As for Rivendell not pushing the commuting aspect of their bikes...well...they seem to ride their bikes regularly to and from work...so I would say they live the commuting aspect of their bikes, and their bikes are designed for real-world applications. Somewhere on their site, Grant does mention that commuting might not be feasible for everyone. Anyway, I hope you find that riding your Sam to and from work is a high point of your day. On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 5:28:08 AM UTC-5, blakcloud wrote: This weeks experiment, well maybe the next two weeks, will be using my Sam Hillborne as a commuter. I built the bike up as a leisurely Sunday bike to ride with my wife though I started thinking the bike could do more. I was inspired by a thread last year Could you own one bike? The answer for me was no, but I could trim down the number of bikes I own. I want to minimize and plus I don't have room as I live in a condo and bike parking has become an issue. There hasn't been a lot of talk about using Riv's as commuters on this board and even Rivendell doesn't seem to push the commuting aspect for their bikes. The Sam to me, might make a good commuter. My commutes are 60 minutes each way, so nothing drastic. It is set up with Albatross's and a Brooks B67, plus the required basket and Mark's rack. The bike currently has Hetre's but I think I will use a pair of Marathons that I also own. I will pick up SKS Longboards today and if the experiment works, a new dynamo front wheel will be built. Ninety five percent of my cycling is commuting so I really need to like the bike I ride. I am hoping the Sam will fit that bill. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Using my Sam as a commuter
Blakcloud, you and me both know the knarly streets of Toronto eats nice bikes for breakfast. I too have gradually eased my stress on having a bike stolen and/or damaged when out and about, but it has taken awhile. I've only had a bike stolen once - an old Bianchi that I thought I had locked up, but hadn't (at Yonge and Dundas Square where all the crackheads hang out, no less). So more on me than anyone else. D'oh! I also get the desire to ride a bike you like. My 95% of riding (commuting) is done on a too-small Cross Check, which certainly is my least-fav bike in my stable. On top of that, I have a porteur rack and big Wald on the front of it, which needless to say, does not improve the handling. BUT! if something happened to it, I would also be the least upset and would get over it. I also rode it right through the winter, and had few qualms exposing it to all of that hell. After riding the Ram all weekend, it sure was hard going back onto that Surly tank Monday morning. But so it goes.. KJ On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 6:28:08 AM UTC-4, blakcloud wrote: This weeks experiment, well maybe the next two weeks, will be using my Sam Hillborne as a commuter. I built the bike up as a leisurely Sunday bike to ride with my wife though I started thinking the bike could do more. I was inspired by a thread last year Could you own one bike? The answer for me was no, but I could trim down the number of bikes I own. I want to minimize and plus I don't have room as I live in a condo and bike parking has become an issue. There hasn't been a lot of talk about using Riv's as commuters on this board and even Rivendell doesn't seem to push the commuting aspect for their bikes. The Sam to me, might make a good commuter. My commutes are 60 minutes each way, so nothing drastic. It is set up with Albatross's and a Brooks B67, plus the required basket and Mark's rack. The bike currently has Hetre's but I think I will use a pair of Marathons that I also own. I will pick up SKS Longboards today and if the experiment works, a new dynamo front wheel will be built. Ninety five percent of my cycling is commuting so I really need to like the bike I ride. I am hoping the Sam will fit that bill. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Using my Sam as a commuter
I commute 18 miles RT to work, and am thankful to have a shower and bike storage at my job. Plus a little kitchenette for coffee and breakfast! Protobleriot with bosco bullmoose bars, front basket, and sackville saddlebags. It's my only bike, which is one way for it to qualify as does everything On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 11:49:58 AM UTC-7, Kieran J wrote: Blakcloud, you and me both know the knarly streets of Toronto eats nice bikes for breakfast. I too have gradually eased my stress on having a bike stolen and/or damaged when out and about, but it has taken awhile. I've only had a bike stolen once - an old Bianchi that I thought I had locked up, but hadn't (at Yonge and Dundas Square where all the crackheads hang out, no less). So more on me than anyone else. D'oh! I also get the desire to ride a bike you like. My 95% of riding (commuting) is done on a too-small Cross Check, which certainly is my least-fav bike in my stable. On top of that, I have a porteur rack and big Wald on the front of it, which needless to say, does not improve the handling. BUT! if something happened to it, I would also be the least upset and would get over it. I also rode it right through the winter, and had few qualms exposing it to all of that hell. After riding the Ram all weekend, it sure was hard going back onto that Surly tank Monday morning. But so it goes.. KJ On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 6:28:08 AM UTC-4, blakcloud wrote: This weeks experiment, well maybe the next two weeks, will be using my Sam Hillborne as a commuter. I built the bike up as a leisurely Sunday bike to ride with my wife though I started thinking the bike could do more. I was inspired by a thread last year Could you own one bike? The answer for me was no, but I could trim down the number of bikes I own. I want to minimize and plus I don't have room as I live in a condo and bike parking has become an issue. There hasn't been a lot of talk about using Riv's as commuters on this board and even Rivendell doesn't seem to push the commuting aspect for their bikes. The Sam to me, might make a good commuter. My commutes are 60 minutes each way, so nothing drastic. It is set up with Albatross's and a Brooks B67, plus the required basket and Mark's rack. The bike currently has Hetre's but I think I will use a pair of Marathons that I also own. I will pick up SKS Longboards today and if the experiment works, a new dynamo front wheel will be built. Ninety five percent of my cycling is commuting so I really need to like the bike I ride. I am hoping the Sam will fit that bill. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Using my Sam as a commuter
J: my solution to the matter of a beater that can be stolen without tragedy has been to find old but nice bikes that as closely as possible imitate my good ones. The old Motobecane that I sold to Eric Norris (it was stolen in that the price was a steal) was one such, and I have had many others. One great fun one was an old sport-tourer Raleigh Technium that I picked up very cheap and built even cheaper. i don't know why they bothered with the aluminum, since it was a huge tank, and as noodley as a -- noodle; but with fattish 32 mm tires and a 68 fixed gear, it was a fun ride. I realize that one can have fun riding just about anything -- well, there are some exceptions -- but life is too short to waste most of your riding on something that isn't fun enough. My gawd, man, get yourself a bike that fits, at least! On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Kieran J kjo...@gmail.com wrote: Blakcloud, you and me both know the knarly streets of Toronto eats nice bikes for breakfast. I too have gradually eased my stress on having a bike stolen and/or damaged when out and about, but it has taken awhile. I've only had a bike stolen once - an old Bianchi that I thought I had locked up, but hadn't (at Yonge and Dundas Square where all the crackheads hang out, no less). So more on me than anyone else. D'oh! I also get the desire to ride a bike you like. My 95% of riding (commuting) is done on a too-small Cross Check, which certainly is my least-fav bike in my stable. On top of that, I have a porteur rack and big Wald on the front of it, which needless to say, does not improve the handling. BUT! if something happened to it, I would also be the least upset and would get over it. I also rode it right through the winter, and had few qualms exposing it to all of that hell. After riding the Ram all weekend, it sure was hard going back onto that Surly tank Monday morning. But so it goes.. KJ On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 6:28:08 AM UTC-4, blakcloud wrote: This weeks experiment, well maybe the next two weeks, will be using my Sam Hillborne as a commuter. I built the bike up as a leisurely Sunday bike to ride with my wife though I started thinking the bike could do more. I was inspired by a thread last year Could you own one bike? The answer for me was no, but I could trim down the number of bikes I own. I want to minimize and plus I don't have room as I live in a condo and bike parking has become an issue. There hasn't been a lot of talk about using Riv's as commuters on this board and even Rivendell doesn't seem to push the commuting aspect for their bikes. The Sam to me, might make a good commuter. My commutes are 60 minutes each way, so nothing drastic. It is set up with Albatross's and a Brooks B67, plus the required basket and Mark's rack. The bike currently has Hetre's but I think I will use a pair of Marathons that I also own. I will pick up SKS Longboards today and if the experiment works, a new dynamo front wheel will be built. Ninety five percent of my cycling is commuting so I really need to like the bike I ride. I am hoping the Sam will fit that bill. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Using my Sam as a commuter
10 mile round trip four days a week on my AHH. Oh what fun it is getting to and from work. Well I must pack up and hit the road for another commute adventure. On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: J: my solution to the matter of a beater that can be stolen without tragedy has been to find old but nice bikes that as closely as possible imitate my good ones. The old Motobecane that I sold to Eric Norris (it was stolen in that the price was a steal) was one such, and I have had many others. One great fun one was an old sport-tourer Raleigh Technium that I picked up very cheap and built even cheaper. i don't know why they bothered with the aluminum, since it was a huge tank, and as noodley as a -- noodle; but with fattish 32 mm tires and a 68 fixed gear, it was a fun ride. I realize that one can have fun riding just about anything -- well, there are some exceptions -- but life is too short to waste most of your riding on something that isn't fun enough. My gawd, man, get yourself a bike that fits, at least! On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Kieran J kjo...@gmail.com wrote: Blakcloud, you and me both know the knarly streets of Toronto eats nice bikes for breakfast. I too have gradually eased my stress on having a bike stolen and/or damaged when out and about, but it has taken awhile. I've only had a bike stolen once - an old Bianchi that I thought I had locked up, but hadn't (at Yonge and Dundas Square where all the crackheads hang out, no less). So more on me than anyone else. D'oh! I also get the desire to ride a bike you like. My 95% of riding (commuting) is done on a too-small Cross Check, which certainly is my least-fav bike in my stable. On top of that, I have a porteur rack and big Wald on the front of it, which needless to say, does not improve the handling. BUT! if something happened to it, I would also be the least upset and would get over it. I also rode it right through the winter, and had few qualms exposing it to all of that hell. After riding the Ram all weekend, it sure was hard going back onto that Surly tank Monday morning. But so it goes.. KJ On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 6:28:08 AM UTC-4, blakcloud wrote: This weeks experiment, well maybe the next two weeks, will be using my Sam Hillborne as a commuter. I built the bike up as a leisurely Sunday bike to ride with my wife though I started thinking the bike could do more. I was inspired by a thread last year Could you own one bike? The answer for me was no, but I could trim down the number of bikes I own. I want to minimize and plus I don't have room as I live in a condo and bike parking has become an issue. There hasn't been a lot of talk about using Riv's as commuters on this board and even Rivendell doesn't seem to push the commuting aspect for their bikes. The Sam to me, might make a good commuter. My commutes are 60 minutes each way, so nothing drastic. It is set up with Albatross's and a Brooks B67, plus the required basket and Mark's rack. The bike currently has Hetre's but I think I will use a pair of Marathons that I also own. I will pick up SKS Longboards today and if the experiment works, a new dynamo front wheel will be built. Ninety five percent of my cycling is commuting so I really need to like the bike I ride. I am hoping the Sam will fit that bill. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Using my Sam as a commuter
I do everything with my Sam. Group rides, century rides, errands and commuting to work everyday. The Seattle rain and road grit does eat through drive trains but a lot less money then I'd spend on a car. On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 3:28:08 AM UTC-7, blakcloud wrote: This weeks experiment, well maybe the next two weeks, will be using my Sam Hillborne as a commuter. I built the bike up as a leisurely Sunday bike to ride with my wife though I started thinking the bike could do more. I was inspired by a thread last year Could you own one bike? The answer for me was no, but I could trim down the number of bikes I own. I want to minimize and plus I don't have room as I live in a condo and bike parking has become an issue. There hasn't been a lot of talk about using Riv's as commuters on this board and even Rivendell doesn't seem to push the commuting aspect for their bikes. The Sam to me, might make a good commuter. My commutes are 60 minutes each way, so nothing drastic. It is set up with Albatross's and a Brooks B67, plus the required basket and Mark's rack. The bike currently has Hetre's but I think I will use a pair of Marathons that I also own. I will pick up SKS Longboards today and if the experiment works, a new dynamo front wheel will be built. Ninety five percent of my cycling is commuting so I really need to like the bike I ride. I am hoping the Sam will fit that bill. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.