[RBW] Re: VO Campagne handlebar review?

2010-10-17 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Thanks to all for your input.  I ordered the VO and it arrived
yesterday (BOY THAT WAS FAST!!)...
I really like the quality of this bag... I only had a few minutes to
try it out on the rack... I'll have to give it a proper road test with
my drop bars on a longer ride.  I'm sure it will serve my needs,
although I will probably have to make a few minor mods/tweaks... Thx!

Peace,
BB



On Oct 15, 9:34 pm, Way Rebb grayc...@mac.com wrote:
 I had the Campagne bag mounted to the front rack and thought it worked
 great.  I mounted it two different ways. The first was just slide the
 leather thing over the steel thing and use a toe strap to hold it to
 the rack.  I was able to stuffed lots of things inside.  I think it is
 mounted that way in this picture:  Inside is a spare tube, camera,
 apples, nuts, glasses, maps, warm clothing etc.  It bulges out very
 nicely.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/wrebb/4375751359/in/set-72157623480171652/

 Since the bag got a little droopy when not full I made a wooden
 platform, drilled a hole in the bag, bolted it on, and zip tied the
 whole contraption to the rack:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/wrebb/4917605573/in/datetaken/

 That stiffened the bottom up.  I missed the bulge factor but it made
 it easier to just throw stuff into.  There was also a great spot to
 carry my little pump:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/wrebb/4918208604/in/datetaken/

 Eventually I needed the rack back to haul around a tent so I used the
 Sackville bag rivendell sells but right now I have the Acorn
 classic (as I call it) on the bike and have rack space.

 What I didn't like about mounting the bag to the rack was rider side
 pockets were unusable due to the shifter cables and there wasn't a lot
 of room to fiddle with the elastic cord to close it.    Overall there
 isn't much I don't like about the bag except:  The buckles are in two
 parts which is a little weird. (I think the GB bags have them also)
 and the elastic cord holding it shut.  The magnet on the Riv bag is so
 much better,  I may try to rig up a magnet to hold the Campagne bag
 shut when it goes back on the Hillborne.

 Regards,
  Ray

 On Oct 13, 7:54 pm, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com
 wrote:



  I know there have been a few discussions in this forum about the Velo
  Orange Campagne handlebar bag... Has anyone mounted it to a front
  rack, and if so, how has it worked for you?

  Thanks,
  BB

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[RBW] Re: VO Campagne handlebar review?

2010-10-15 Thread Way Rebb
I had the Campagne bag mounted to the front rack and thought it worked
great.  I mounted it two different ways. The first was just slide the
leather thing over the steel thing and use a toe strap to hold it to
the rack.  I was able to stuffed lots of things inside.  I think it is
mounted that way in this picture:  Inside is a spare tube, camera,
apples, nuts, glasses, maps, warm clothing etc.  It bulges out very
nicely.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/wrebb/4375751359/in/set-72157623480171652/

Since the bag got a little droopy when not full I made a wooden
platform, drilled a hole in the bag, bolted it on, and zip tied the
whole contraption to the rack:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/wrebb/4917605573/in/datetaken/

That stiffened the bottom up.  I missed the bulge factor but it made
it easier to just throw stuff into.  There was also a great spot to
carry my little pump:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/wrebb/4918208604/in/datetaken/

Eventually I needed the rack back to haul around a tent so I used the
Sackville bag rivendell sells but right now I have the Acorn
classic (as I call it) on the bike and have rack space.

What I didn't like about mounting the bag to the rack was rider side
pockets were unusable due to the shifter cables and there wasn't a lot
of room to fiddle with the elastic cord to close it.Overall there
isn't much I don't like about the bag except:  The buckles are in two
parts which is a little weird. (I think the GB bags have them also)
and the elastic cord holding it shut.  The magnet on the Riv bag is so
much better,  I may try to rig up a magnet to hold the Campagne bag
shut when it goes back on the Hillborne.

Regards,
 Ray

On Oct 13, 7:54 pm, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com
wrote:
 I know there have been a few discussions in this forum about the Velo
 Orange Campagne handlebar bag... Has anyone mounted it to a front
 rack, and if so, how has it worked for you?

 Thanks,
 BB

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[RBW] Re: VO Campagne handlebar review?

2010-10-14 Thread Mike
A friend of mine has one and loaned it to me for a few days. I didn't
like it. You can mount it on a front rack (Mark's Rack, Nitto mini-
front rack) without a decauler but it didn't seem entirely steady. The
bag's construction seemed cheap and it was too small. I think it's
even smaller than the Acorn rando bag. The area where you put a cue
sheet is rather small and so if you used it for a brevet, depending on
the number of cues, you might find yourself having to adjust the cue
sheet frequently. Also it's not that tall so if it's going on a big
bike, say 60cm frame, it looks kind of odd and isn't as easy to
access. Overall the bag just seems to miss the boat.Still, the bag is
inexpensive.

If you're looking for a bag to use for randonneuring just bite the
bullet and get a Berthoud HB bag through the Rene Herse online store.
The guy who runs it, Mike Kone, is super nice and helpful.

--mike

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Re: [RBW] Re: VO Campagne handlebar review?

2010-10-14 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 06:45 -0700, Mike wrote:
 A friend of mine has one and loaned it to me for a few days. I didn't
 like it. You can mount it on a front rack (Mark's Rack, Nitto mini-
 front rack) without a decauler but it didn't seem entirely steady. The
 bag's construction seemed cheap and it was too small. I think it's
 even smaller than the Acorn rando bag. The area where you put a cue
 sheet is rather small and so if you used it for a brevet, depending on
 the number of cues, you might find yourself having to adjust the cue
 sheet frequently. Also it's not that tall so if it's going on a big
 bike, say 60cm frame, it looks kind of odd and isn't as easy to
 access. Overall the bag just seems to miss the boat.Still, the bag is
 inexpensive.

It is, after all, meant to be a small bag.  Not everyone likes a bag the
size of the GB28 or has use for something with that much capacity.


 
 If you're looking for a bag to use for randonneuring just bite the
 bullet and get a Berthoud HB bag through the Rene Herse online store.
 The guy who runs it, Mike Kone, is super nice and helpful.


You can also get Berthoud bags from Peter White, who has been selling
them far longer than Mike Kone's had the Rene Herse name.

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[RBW] Re: VO Campagne handlebar review?

2010-10-14 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Thanks, Mike... No argument, the Berthoud is indeed THE bag to own
(IMO), but still that's an awfully big bullet to bite just for a
handlebar bag (to a non-randonneur like me).  I already have a nice
Zimbale 11-litre saddlebag to hold stuff I don't need to access while
pedalling, so a smaller bag up front is actually OK with me.  (When I
gather up the stones to do my first brevet, that may be a different
story.)  The fact that the VO is at least available to me is a big
plus; remembering to schedule time near the first of the month to get
in line for an Acorn bag (AND paying $175), or waiting and waiting for
the Ostrich HB bags to become available...I just haven't the patience.
I want a bag now, not in a month or 2 (if I'm lucky)... So I'll go
with the (less expensive and available) VO now, thanks... just the
same let me know if you ever want to sell your Berthoud on the
cheap :)... And I'll share my honest impressions of the VO bag with
this forum.

It's funny... back in college in the late 70s I owned a nice TA-style
canvas handlebar bag (a knockoff I am sure), and after catching so
much grief from my friends with sleek nylon handlebar bags, I actually
developed a disdain for my big clunky, and obviously unstylish TA
bag... But then again, I rode with a Skid-Lid back then, so what the
hell did I know?  I guess karma must be catching up with me; after
casting that old handlebar bag aside (that I would today give my right
arm for), it seems only fitting that today I would probably have to
pay more than the original cost for the privilege of owning such a
thing of beauty...

Peace,
BB

On Oct 14, 9:45 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:
 A friend of mine has one and loaned it to me for a few days. I didn't
 like it. You can mount it on a front rack (Mark's Rack, Nitto mini-
 front rack) without a decauler but it didn't seem entirely steady. The
 bag's construction seemed cheap and it was too small. I think it's
 even smaller than the Acorn rando bag. The area where you put a cue
 sheet is rather small and so if you used it for a brevet, depending on
 the number of cues, you might find yourself having to adjust the cue
 sheet frequently. Also it's not that tall so if it's going on a big
 bike, say 60cm frame, it looks kind of odd and isn't as easy to
 access. Overall the bag just seems to miss the boat.Still, the bag is
 inexpensive.

 If you're looking for a bag to use for randonneuring just bite the
 bullet and get a Berthoud HB bag through the Rene Herse online store.
 The guy who runs it, Mike Kone, is super nice and helpful.

 --mike

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Re: [RBW] Re: VO Campagne handlebar review?

2010-10-14 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 08:38 -0700, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
 
 It's funny... back in college in the late 70s I owned a nice TA-style
 canvas handlebar bag (a knockoff I am sure), and after catching so
 much grief from my friends with sleek nylon handlebar bags, I actually
 developed a disdain for my big clunky, and obviously unstylish TA
 bag... But then again, I rode with a Skid-Lid back then, so what the
 hell did I know?  I guess karma must be catching up with me; after
 casting that old handlebar bag aside (that I would today give my right
 arm for), it seems only fitting that today I would probably have to
 pay more than the original cost for the privilege of owning such a
 thing of beauty...
 

What's /really/ funny is how much better the old style canvas bags
perform than the sleek nylon bags, especially when it comes to keeping
out the water.  I've had my two Berthoud bags out in many hours long
driving rain, and the interior of the the bags have always stayed
completely dry.  I also have a Kirtland Tour Pack nlyon handlebar bag,
and it has no water resistance whatever.  (Of course, the interior
coating dried out and peeled off like a nasty sunburn, which is typical
for old Kirtland stuff.)



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[RBW] Re: VO Campagne handlebar review?

2010-10-14 Thread LBleriot
I have been using one for the past year.  The one nit I have to pick
with it is that the VO bag is not tall enough.  It sits nicley on my
Nitto rack, but there is no way that I can get it to work with a
decaleur.  I have a 15cm head tube, and no matter how I mount or bend
the decaleur, the prongs will not fit.  It simply lifts the bag off
the rack.  As a result, I've taken to reversing the prongs and using
the decaleur for just a bit of stability.  Rubber bands or ties from
the side loops to the handlebars also help.  Other than the fit issue,
the bag suits my purposes, is fairly well made, and the price can't be
beat.

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[RBW] Re: VO Campagne handlebar review?

2010-10-14 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Maybe the need for some type of rack-riser franken-mount is in
order... hmmm...

On Oct 14, 11:34 am, LBleriot gary.sch...@att.net wrote:
 I have been using one for the past year.  The one nit I have to pick
 with it is that the VO bag is not tall enough.  It sits nicley on my
 Nitto rack, but there is no way that I can get it to work with a
 decaleur.  I have a 15cm head tube, and no matter how I mount or bend
 the decaleur, the prongs will not fit.  It simply lifts the bag off
 the rack.  As a result, I've taken to reversing the prongs and using
 the decaleur for just a bit of stability.  Rubber bands or ties from
 the side loops to the handlebars also help.  Other than the fit issue,
 the bag suits my purposes, is fairly well made, and the price can't be
 beat.

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[RBW] Re: VO Campagne handlebar review?

2010-10-14 Thread scott
I sold mine shortly after buying it. The canvas was thin and didn't
look up to the abuse I dish. The leather was also not super thick and
the stitching didn't look great. It also wasn't tall enough for my
bike either. It is a nice size for a front bag. The price seems good,
until you factor in the additional stuff needed to run it properly--
rack, decaleur, extras if you want to swap bikes with it. I am way
happier with my acorn hobo that I've had for years now. Gone on a
bunch of long tours with it and can't complain. I'd go with the brand
v boxy or bar tube if you already have a saddlebag. Keep a woolie and
some food and maybe a camera up front. Also, I like zippers better
than elastic straps when on the move. Whatever, just an opinion.
   Scott

On Oct 14, 10:34 am, LBleriot gary.sch...@att.net wrote:
 I have been using one for the past year.  The one nit I have to pick
 with it is that the VO bag is not tall enough.  It sits nicley on my
 Nitto rack, but there is no way that I can get it to work with a
 decaleur.  I have a 15cm head tube, and no matter how I mount or bend
 the decaleur, the prongs will not fit.  It simply lifts the bag off
 the rack.  As a result, I've taken to reversing the prongs and using
 the decaleur for just a bit of stability.  Rubber bands or ties from
 the side loops to the handlebars also help.  Other than the fit issue,
 the bag suits my purposes, is fairly well made, and the price can't be
 beat.

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[RBW] Re: VO Campagne handlebar review?

2010-10-14 Thread Mike
A smaller HB bag holds less stuff, which is fine for shorter rides or
smaller people. Certainly not everyone needs a GB 28 but if you're
gonna go to the trouble of mounting a bag on a front rack and using a
decauler you might as well get something that's proportional to your
bike. Perhaps the VO bag is a good size for the OP's bike. I like that
GB makes 3 sizes of bags. They also make a Klick Fit model that
doesn't require a front rack although it does mount the bag higher up
as it attachs to the handlebars. Carradice has a similar version.

Yes, Peter White does sell GB products, as does Wallbike. I'm not sure
if Harris Cyclery does anymore, they used to. The other vendors are
fine, Mike Kone was just exceptionally friendly and easy to work with.

--mike

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