[RBW] Re: WTB- 200mm bullmoose bars

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Still hoping… 
-Kai

On Monday, June 18, 2018 at 10:54:35 AM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY wrote:

> Anybody have a looong bullmoose bar they're not using? I just swapped out 
> bars on my Rosco Bubbe mega mixte and need a few more cm of extension. I've 
> got good stuffs for trade as well, please PM if you can help me out. 
> kaivierstra at gmail.com 
> Thanks 
> -Kai 
> BKNY 

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[RBW] Re: WTB/T Nitto Tallux 5cm Stem

[John Rinker]

I'm going to bump this because I'm still looking. With all the bar swapping 
going on around here, I'm hoping someone might have one of these that needs 
a new home. 

While I'm at it, I'm also looking for some Silver Shifters (1st gen) in 
good shape.

Cheers, John
On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 7:44:49 PM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote:

> Thank you, Michael! This will certainly be my next step after I give the 
> 'reduce, reuse' strategy a go. 
>
> Cheers, John
>
> On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 3:42:37 PM UTC-8 Michael Connors wrote:
>
>> Crust has 5cm x 250 Technomic stems for $55
>> https://crustbikes.com/collections/stems/products/nitto-technomic-stem
>>
> On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 4:59:06 PM UTC-6 John Rinker wrote:
>>
>>> Gonna bump this 'cause I'm still hoping someone's holding. Cheers. 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 6, 2024 at 10:56:24 AM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote:
>>>
 Good morning,

 Looking to shorten my reach a bit, and I'm wondering if one of you 
 might be holding a Nitto Tallux 5 or 6cm stem (25.4, 225mm). I'm happy to 
 purchase or I have an 8cm, 26.0 for trade.

 Cheers, John

>>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Silver 30mm Analog/DISCORD COMPONENTS W(RIGHT) STEM

[NYCbikeguy]

Ah, I have the 0mm version, new. 

On Tuesday, May 21, 2024 at 11:47:54 AM UTC-4 captaincon...@gmail.com wrote:

> Like it says, I would like to purchase your currently out-of-stock silver 
> 30mm Analog/DISCORD COMPONENTS W(RIGHT) STEM.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>

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[RBW] Re: wtb: 26.8 seatpost, 120-130mm quill stem

[Ted Durant]

On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 7:18:19 PM UTC-5 Tim Bantham wrote:

A new frame and fork from Riv usually includes a Kaloi seatpost. You might 
want to verify before buying unless your just looking for something 
fancier. 


Yes, your Sam will come with a Kalloy seatpost. The ones in the last batch 
were 300mm.

Ted Durant
Milwaukee WI USA

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[RBW] Re: wtb: 26.8 seatpost, 120-130mm quill stem

[Tim Bantham]

A new frame and fork from Riv usually includes a Kaloi seatpost. You might 
want to verify before buying unless your just looking for something 
fancier. 

On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 11:20:18 AM UTC-4 Brent Knepper wrote:

> looks like I've a periwinkle build coming up in the near future, which I 
> should be able to get rollin with my small but intentional parts bin :) in 
> need of a seatpost and stem though!
>
> 26.8 seatpost needs:
> -longer than 250mm
> -15-20mm traditional setback is great, not looking for straight or waybakk
> -weird/funky/vintage/esoteric always encouraged, I can get a $5 used 
> kalloy locally :)
>
> 120-30mm stem needs:
> -120-130 length only, already have some shorter stems if I don't really 
> need a long-o 
> -usual 22.2 quill
> -90º or 7-shape, not lookin for a riser stem
> -150-250mm quill length is fine, don't need to get the bars high or slammed
> -25.4 clamp or faceplate is good, or 26.0 but only with a faceplate is 
> also good (prolly using rons ortho bars for anyone curious)
> -W.F.V.E. also welcomed here
>
> thanks for your consideration!
>
> -Brent in chicago
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB Nitto 32F mini front rack

[Valerie Yates]

Both racks were sold.

On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 1:25:46 PM UTC-6 Bones wrote:

> Rack secured, thanks all!
>
> Bones
>
> On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 3:04:20 PM UTC-4 Bones wrote:
>
>> Thank you, Val. I just sent you a message.
>>
>> Bones
>>
>> On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 2:19:19 PM UTC-4 Valerie Yates wrote:
>>
>>> I do. In fact, I have two I've been intending to offer for sale.  $100 
>>> each net to me via paypal or venmo includes shipping in the continental US. 
>>> Shipping elsewhere negotiable. Nuts and bolts not included. 
>>>
>>> [image: PXL_20240513_181152653~2.jpg]
>>>
>>> [image: PXL_20240513_181201314.jpg]
>>>
>>>
>>> Val in Boulder, CO
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 9:27:05 AM UTC-6 Bones wrote:
>>>
 These are hard to come by these days. Does anybody have one they’d be 
 willing to part with?

 Thanks,
 Bones

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: 50 cm Roadini

[Doug H.]

The 47 is the previous geometry, I think. I compared the two on Bike 
Insights and there is quite a difference, more so than you'd think between 
the sizes. The 47 has much less stack and the top tube is about 4 cm 
shorter. I'd hold out for a 50 in the newer geometry if I were Leah. The 
newer models can handle wider tires too.
Doug

On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 8:31:18 AM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> I think C have a 47? Not sure how much difference their is compared to a 
> 50 - other then 3cm.
> Just a thought; how about a Roaduno? 
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 14, 2024, at 5:29 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  
> wrote:
>
> You guys are the best! Also, funny. Thanks for keeping your eyes peeled - 
> with any luck, we’ll find one during riding season, and if not, there are 
> Roadinis coming to Riv this fall. The Racing Platypus is still plenty up to 
> the task, so I can be patient. 
>
> L
>
> On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 1:32:04 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> "I'm sure we'll all try and keep our eyes peeled :)"
>>
>> As a long time Friend Of Leah I take it as a personal affront that I 
>> haven't been able to find this bike for her yet, I've been searching like 
>> it's my JOB. Step up, people! 
>>
>> Joe "it's gotta be here somewhere" Bernard 
>>
>> On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 5:27:17 PM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> I'm sure we'll all try and keep our eyes peeled :) 
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 7:23:01 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I am looking to try out a RivRoad bike and specifically, a 50 cm 
 Roadini. I’ve been looking on my own, but no luck so far. I’d like one 
 with 
 drop bars, so I wouldn’t have to swap out the whole setup, as this likely 
 isn’t a forever bike…it’s an experiment. But we’ll see. 

 If you have one for sale, or if you see one for sale, would you help 
 your RivSister out and tell me? 

 Thanks always!
 Leah

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: 50 cm Roadini

[Richard Rose]

I think C have a 47? Not sure how much difference their is compared to a 50 - other then 3cm.Just a thought; how about a Roaduno? Sent from my iPhoneOn May 14, 2024, at 5:29 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  wrote:You guys are the best! Also, funny. Thanks for keeping your eyes peeled - with any luck, we’ll find one during riding season, and if not, there are Roadinis coming to Riv this fall. The Racing Platypus is still plenty up to the task, so I can be patient. LOn Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 1:32:04 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:"I'm sure we'll all try and keep our eyes peeled :)"As a long time Friend Of Leah I take it as a personal affront that I haven't been able to find this bike for her yet, I've been searching like it's my JOB. Step up, people! Joe "it's gotta be here somewhere" Bernard On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 5:27:17 PM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:I'm sure we'll all try and keep our eyes peeled :) On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 7:23:01 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I am looking to try out a RivRoad bike and specifically, a 50 cm Roadini. I’ve been looking on my own, but no luck so far. I’d like one with drop bars, so I wouldn’t have to swap out the whole setup, as this likely isn’t a forever bike…it’s an experiment. But we’ll see. If you have one for sale, or if you see one for sale, would you help your RivSister out and tell me? Thanks always!Leah



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[RBW] Re: WTB: 50 cm Roadini

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

You guys are the best! Also, funny. Thanks for keeping your eyes peeled - 
with any luck, we’ll find one during riding season, and if not, there are 
Roadinis coming to Riv this fall. The Racing Platypus is still plenty up to 
the task, so I can be patient. 
L

On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 1:32:04 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> "I'm sure we'll all try and keep our eyes peeled :)"
>
> As a long time Friend Of Leah I take it as a personal affront that I 
> haven't been able to find this bike for her yet, I've been searching like 
> it's my JOB. Step up, people! 
>
> Joe "it's gotta be here somewhere" Bernard 
>
> On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 5:27:17 PM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>
>> I'm sure we'll all try and keep our eyes peeled :) 
>>
>> On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 7:23:01 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am looking to try out a RivRoad bike and specifically, a 50 cm 
>>> Roadini. I’ve been looking on my own, but no luck so far. I’d like one with 
>>> drop bars, so I wouldn’t have to swap out the whole setup, as this likely 
>>> isn’t a forever bike…it’s an experiment. But we’ll see. 
>>>
>>> If you have one for sale, or if you see one for sale, would you help 
>>> your RivSister out and tell me? 
>>>
>>> Thanks always!
>>> Leah
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 50 cm Roadini

[Joe Bernard]

"I'm sure we'll all try and keep our eyes peeled :)"

As a long time Friend Of Leah I take it as a personal affront that I 
haven't been able to find this bike for her yet, I've been searching like 
it's my JOB. Step up, people! 

Joe "it's gotta be here somewhere" Bernard 

On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 5:27:17 PM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:

> I'm sure we'll all try and keep our eyes peeled :) 
>
> On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 7:23:01 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>
>> I am looking to try out a RivRoad bike and specifically, a 50 cm Roadini. 
>> I’ve been looking on my own, but no luck so far. I’d like one with drop 
>> bars, so I wouldn’t have to swap out the whole setup, as this likely isn’t 
>> a forever bike…it’s an experiment. But we’ll see. 
>>
>> If you have one for sale, or if you see one for sale, would you help your 
>> RivSister out and tell me? 
>>
>> Thanks always!
>> Leah
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 50 cm Roadini

[Eric Marth]

Oh and good luck with your search!

On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 8:32:19 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:

> Leah I am excited to hear this because I've been so curious about your 
> strength and speed. If you can keep up with the 17-18mph group on your 
> Platy I'd think you'd be faster than the fast groups on a road bike!
>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: 50 cm Roadini

[Eric Marth]

Leah I am excited to hear this because I've been so curious about your 
strength and speed. If you can keep up with the 17-18mph group on your 
Platy I'd think you'd be faster than the fast groups on a road bike!

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 50 cm Roadini

[Ryan]

I'm sure we'll all try and keep our eyes peeled :) 

On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 7:23:01 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

> I am looking to try out a RivRoad bike and specifically, a 50 cm Roadini. 
> I’ve been looking on my own, but no luck so far. I’d like one with drop 
> bars, so I wouldn’t have to swap out the whole setup, as this likely isn’t 
> a forever bike…it’s an experiment. But we’ll see. 
>
> If you have one for sale, or if you see one for sale, would you help your 
> RivSister out and tell me? 
>
> Thanks always!
> Leah
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB Nitto 32F mini front rack

[Bones]

Rack secured, thanks all!

Bones

On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 3:04:20 PM UTC-4 Bones wrote:

> Thank you, Val. I just sent you a message.
>
> Bones
>
> On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 2:19:19 PM UTC-4 Valerie Yates wrote:
>
>> I do. In fact, I have two I've been intending to offer for sale.  $100 
>> each net to me via paypal or venmo includes shipping in the continental US. 
>> Shipping elsewhere negotiable. Nuts and bolts not included. 
>>
>> [image: PXL_20240513_181152653~2.jpg]
>>
>> [image: PXL_20240513_181201314.jpg]
>>
>>
>> Val in Boulder, CO
>>
>> On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 9:27:05 AM UTC-6 Bones wrote:
>>
>>> These are hard to come by these days. Does anybody have one they’d be 
>>> willing to part with?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bones
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB Nitto 32F mini front rack

[Bones]

Thank you, Val. I just sent you a message.

Bones

On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 2:19:19 PM UTC-4 Valerie Yates wrote:

> I do. In fact, I have two I've been intending to offer for sale.  $100 
> each net to me via paypal or venmo includes shipping in the continental US. 
> Shipping elsewhere negotiable. Nuts and bolts not included. 
>
> [image: PXL_20240513_181152653~2.jpg]
>
> [image: PXL_20240513_181201314.jpg]
>
>
> Val in Boulder, CO
>
> On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 9:27:05 AM UTC-6 Bones wrote:
>
>> These are hard to come by these days. Does anybody have one they’d be 
>> willing to part with?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bones
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB Nitto 32F mini front rack

[Kim H.]

@Bones,

I found this:
https://alexscycle.com/products/nitto-m18-front-carrier-1?_pos=7&_sid=e9b3ea73b&_ss=r
It is similar...

Kim Hetzel.

On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 8:27:05 AM UTC-7 Bones wrote:

> These are hard to come by these days. Does anybody have one they’d be 
> willing to part with?
>
> Thanks,
> Bones
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Hunqapillar 54 / 56 cm

[Hoch in ut]

Fantastic pictures, John. Makes me miss my old 54 Hunq. 

On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 4:32:22 PM UTC-6 John M wrote:

> I'm not Johnny but I used to have a 54 cm Hunqapillar in green and here's 
> an assortment of pictures from tours in New Mexico and Colorado-- mostly 
> the Great Divide Mountain  Bike route.  
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1jT4glIHwK2Ox5C8Eigq2Gcxa08MT_ARE?usp=sharing
>
> Its a great bike!
>
> On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 2:57:16 PM UTC-6 J J wrote:
>
>> Hey Johnny, do you have any pics of your Hunq to share? Would love to see 
>> some. (I hope this message is on this thread...?)
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 12:11:28 PM UTC-4 johnny@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Good luck Max. I was on the same quest when an amazing person from this 
>>> group, Matthew Williams, saw one and let me know about it. I posted here 
>>> every ~6 months letting folks know I was still looking and it took a few 
>>> years to find one in my size, but it did happen eventually. It's a cool 
>>> bike, for sure.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 5:44:41 AM UTC-7 Max S wrote:
>>>
 Test-rode one over a decade ago at BBB, shoulda bought it then. Maybe 
 someone's ready to pass theirs on to another good home?.. (Ideally just a 
 frameset)

 - Max "coulda shoulda woulda try againa" in A2

>>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Hunqapillar 54 / 56 cm

[J J]

Thanks John and Johnny. Great to see the pics. 

John, some of those trails look pretty challenging, and like a blast. 

Johnny, I remember that salmon/pink/not sure what to call it Hunq from pics 
you posted a while back. It’s unforgettable for sure!

Thanks again. It’ll be nice to start a new “show us your Hunqapillar 
thread” soon. 

On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 7:35:20 PM UTC-4 johnny@gmail.com wrote:

> Those are great John. Here's a quick pic of mine. That was earlier today, 
> when I had the albatross bars. I just switched to Nitto X Crumbworks KT 
> bar, which I have 1/2 installed
>
>
> [image: hunqapillar Medium.jpeg]
>
> On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 3:32:22 PM UTC-7 John M wrote:
>
>> I'm not Johnny but I used to have a 54 cm Hunqapillar in green and here's 
>> an assortment of pictures from tours in New Mexico and Colorado-- mostly 
>> the Great Divide Mountain  Bike route.  
>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1jT4glIHwK2Ox5C8Eigq2Gcxa08MT_ARE?usp=sharing
>>
>> Its a great bike!
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 2:57:16 PM UTC-6 J J wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Johnny, do you have any pics of your Hunq to share? Would love to 
>>> see some. (I hope this message is on this thread...?)
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 12:11:28 PM UTC-4 johnny@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Good luck Max. I was on the same quest when an amazing person from this 
 group, Matthew Williams, saw one and let me know about it. I posted here 
 every ~6 months letting folks know I was still looking and it took a few 
 years to find one in my size, but it did happen eventually. It's a cool 
 bike, for sure.

 On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 5:44:41 AM UTC-7 Max S wrote:

> Test-rode one over a decade ago at BBB, shoulda bought it then. Maybe 
> someone's ready to pass theirs on to another good home?.. (Ideally just a 
> frameset)
>
> - Max "coulda shoulda woulda try againa" in A2
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Hunqapillar 54 / 56 cm

[John M]

I'm not Johnny but I used to have a 54 cm Hunqapillar in green and here's 
an assortment of pictures from tours in New Mexico and Colorado-- mostly 
the Great Divide Mountain  Bike route.  
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1jT4glIHwK2Ox5C8Eigq2Gcxa08MT_ARE?usp=sharing

Its a great bike!

On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 2:57:16 PM UTC-6 J J wrote:

> Hey Johnny, do you have any pics of your Hunq to share? Would love to see 
> some. (I hope this message is on this thread...?)
>
> On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 12:11:28 PM UTC-4 johnny@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Good luck Max. I was on the same quest when an amazing person from this 
>> group, Matthew Williams, saw one and let me know about it. I posted here 
>> every ~6 months letting folks know I was still looking and it took a few 
>> years to find one in my size, but it did happen eventually. It's a cool 
>> bike, for sure.
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 5:44:41 AM UTC-7 Max S wrote:
>>
>>> Test-rode one over a decade ago at BBB, shoulda bought it then. Maybe 
>>> someone's ready to pass theirs on to another good home?.. (Ideally just a 
>>> frameset)
>>>
>>> - Max "coulda shoulda woulda try againa" in A2
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Hunqapillar 54 / 56 cm

[J J]

Hey Johnny, do you have any pics of your Hunq to share? Would love to see 
some. (I hope this message is on this thread...?)

On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 12:11:28 PM UTC-4 johnny@gmail.com wrote:

> Good luck Max. I was on the same quest when an amazing person from this 
> group, Matthew Williams, saw one and let me know about it. I posted here 
> every ~6 months letting folks know I was still looking and it took a few 
> years to find one in my size, but it did happen eventually. It's a cool 
> bike, for sure.
>
> On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 5:44:41 AM UTC-7 Max S wrote:
>
>> Test-rode one over a decade ago at BBB, shoulda bought it then. Maybe 
>> someone's ready to pass theirs on to another good home?.. (Ideally just a 
>> frameset)
>>
>> - Max "coulda shoulda woulda try againa" in A2
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Hunqapillar 54 / 56 cm

[Johnny Burrell]

Good luck Max. I was on the same quest when an amazing person from this 
group, Matthew Williams, saw one and let me know about it. I posted here 
every ~6 months letting folks know I was still looking and it took a few 
years to find one in my size, but it did happen eventually. It's a cool 
bike, for sure.

On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 5:44:41 AM UTC-7 Max S wrote:

> Test-rode one over a decade ago at BBB, shoulda bought it then. Maybe 
> someone's ready to pass theirs on to another good home?.. (Ideally just a 
> frameset)
>
> - Max "coulda shoulda woulda try againa" in A2
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto R10, R14 or RBW 51

[Tim Bantham]

I am all set on my rack needs. Thank you everyone. 

On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 3:29:58 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:

> I would be interested in an RBW51 for my Roadini if this sale does not 
> happen.
> Doug
>
> On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 6:21:11 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> OK I tried emailing you 
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 1:47:02 PM UTC-7 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>
>>> R10 found! @Bill I didn't receive your PM. Checked junk folder but 
>>> nothing. Please try again when you are able. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 1:02:32 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 I messaged you regarding an RBW51 in my holdings.  

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 6:19:22 AM UTC-7 Tim Bantham wrote:

> In the market for a a rear rack for two separate bikes. 
>
> A Nitto R-10 and R14 would work great! Anyone have one collecting dust?
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto R10, R14 or RBW 51

[Doug H.]

I would be interested in an RBW51 for my Roadini if this sale does not 
happen.
Doug

On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 6:21:11 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> OK I tried emailing you 
>
> Bill
>
> On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 1:47:02 PM UTC-7 Tim Bantham wrote:
>
>> R10 found! @Bill I didn't receive your PM. Checked junk folder but 
>> nothing. Please try again when you are able. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 1:02:32 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> I messaged you regarding an RBW51 in my holdings.  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 6:19:22 AM UTC-7 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>>
 In the market for a a rear rack for two separate bikes. 

 A Nitto R-10 and R14 would work great! Anyone have one collecting dust?

>>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB/ Rear Rack Advice

[NYCbikeguy]

Oh, I also have an AR, so I may be able to mock-fit the rack to the bike to 
show you how it would look. Let me know!

On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 2:26:17 PM UTC-4 NYCbikeguy wrote:

> I have a tubus logo evo in black. the 2-tiered system allows for lower 
> center of gravity for panniers, as well as no overlap between the panniers 
> and whatever you load on top of the rack, and the lower tier is off-set 
> towards the rear so as to minimize heel contact. I can take pics later in 
> the evening if you send me a DM. I'm planning on selling for $70 + 
> shipping. 
>
> https://www.tubus.com/en/products/rear-carriers/tubus-product/logo-evo
>
> Best,
> Isaiah, NYC
>
> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 12:34:33 PM UTC-4 chefd...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Looking for a rear rack for my trusty All Rounder, something that will 
>> support panniers for some summer excursions...perhaps something like the 
>> Shiny Rear Rack. Does anyone have an extra they would be looking to 
>> offload? Or, suggestion for something more appropriate? 
>
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[RBW] Re: WTB/ Rear Rack Advice

[NYCbikeguy]

I have a tubus logo evo in black. the 2-tiered system allows for lower 
center of gravity for panniers, as well as no overlap between the panniers 
and whatever you load on top of the rack, and the lower tier is off-set 
towards the rear so as to minimize heel contact. I can take pics later in 
the evening if you send me a DM. I'm planning on selling for $70 + 
shipping. 

https://www.tubus.com/en/products/rear-carriers/tubus-product/logo-evo

Best,
Isaiah, NYC

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> Looking for a rear rack for my trusty All Rounder, something that will 
> support panniers for some summer excursions...perhaps something like the 
> Shiny Rear Rack. Does anyone have an extra they would be looking to 
> offload? Or, suggestion for something more appropriate? 

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 56 Rambouillet

[Armand Kizirian]

https://radbazaar.theradavist.com/listing/Jx8ftHgLf6fDD5slbSeN?category=undefined=undefined

On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 1:38:09 PM UTC-7 dylantho...@gmail.com wrote:

> Helping out a friend who is looking for a Ram in 56. 
>
> thanks!
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto R10, R14 or RBW 51

[Bill Lindsay]

OK I tried emailing you 

Bill

On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 1:47:02 PM UTC-7 Tim Bantham wrote:

> R10 found! @Bill I didn't receive your PM. Checked junk folder but 
> nothing. Please try again when you are able. 
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 1:02:32 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> I messaged you regarding an RBW51 in my holdings.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 6:19:22 AM UTC-7 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>
>>> In the market for a a rear rack for two separate bikes. 
>>>
>>> A Nitto R-10 and R14 would work great! Anyone have one collecting dust?
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto R10, R14 or RBW 51

[Tim Bantham]

R10 found! @Bill I didn't receive your PM. Checked junk folder but nothing. 
Please try again when you are able. 



On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 1:02:32 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> I messaged you regarding an RBW51 in my holdings.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 6:19:22 AM UTC-7 Tim Bantham wrote:
>
>> In the market for a a rear rack for two separate bikes. 
>>
>> A Nitto R-10 and R14 would work great! Anyone have one collecting dust?
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto R10, R14 or RBW 51

[Bill Lindsay]

I messaged you regarding an RBW51 in my holdings.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 6:19:22 AM UTC-7 Tim Bantham wrote:

> In the market for a a rear rack for two separate bikes. 
>
> A Nitto R-10 and R14 would work great! Anyone have one collecting dust?
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 700c wheelset (135mm rear) for Homer

[Robert Calton]

Found a good deal on a pair of Atlas/WI wheels. Thanks all for the feedback 
and offers and I look forward to posting the new build next month :) 

On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 3:42:54 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Maybe?
>
> Several years back I sold a Complete Toyo Atlantis to a neighbor.  I sold 
> the whole bike for $1900 and now looking at it through a 2024 lens, I gave 
> it away.  I reached out to my neighbor to see if he'd sell it back.  My 
> neighbor indicated he lives overseas for now, and that he sold the frame 
> set for $1400 a while back. The build kit is still in his garage, around 
> the corner from me.  I've asked him to sell me back the build kit, and I'm 
> awaiting his response on that.  If I procure that build kit, the wheel set 
> would be sensational on a 700c Hilsen.  Nothing is assured quite yet.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA 
>
> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 12:11:36 PM UTC-7 Robert Calton wrote:
>
>> Excited to assemble my upcoming Homer (first Riv!), but Velocity is 
>> backordered on the Atlas rims and it might be a month or more until I could 
>> get a pair. I'm curious if anyone here might have a wheelset for sale that 
>> would fit. 
>>
>> I plan on using 43mm tires and Paul centerpull brakes, 8sp Shimano 
>> cassette, would need a 135mm rear spacing. 
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

[Johnny Alien]

The Dream bar was the classic standard drop bar made for Rivendell by 
Nitto. If I remember correctly its what they offered prior to the Noodle. 
It was sold along with the Noodle bar for a bit before they just dropped it 
because the Noodle was the drop they would suggest over all others. 

On Saturday, April 27, 2024 at 7:32:41 AM UTC-4 captaincon...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Bill,
>
> Thanks for the clarification.  My posts weren't meant to be adversarial, 
> just pedantic.  I came into Riv via EcoVelo ~2010, and I didn't own my 
> first Riv until 2013, so the "Soba" predates me, and I thought that y'all 
> were using it colloquially for "So Bar"--the marketing content from Sim 
> Works makes references to literal soba noodles.  I'm curious if the 
> contemporary "So Bar" is inspired by the "Soba".
>
>
> Fair winds,
>
> Captain Conway Bennett
> 239.877.4119 <(239)%20877-4119>
> On Sat, Apr 27, 2024, 12:48 AM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
>> The Simworks So Bar is a handlebar that resembles a Nitto Noodle but in a 
>> wide width that was made in the late 2010s and early 2020s
>>
>> The Nitto Soba Noodle is a completely different handlebar that was made 
>> by Nitto and offered by Rivendell in the mid to late 2000s 
>>
>> Do not conflate the two.  This thread and WTB is focused on the Nitto 
>> Soba Noodle -NOT- the Simworks So Bar. 
>>
>> BL in EC
>>
>>
>> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 5:40:48 PM UTC-7 captaincon...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think the So Bar came out in the fall of 2018.  Here's the intro from 
>>> Sim Works:
>>>
>>> https://sim-works.com/en/news/ramen-nope-i-take-so-bar
>>>
>>> They also appear to have a sleeve.  But I've never owned the So Bar, so 
>>> I don't know what the production model was like in practice.  I had a 50 cm 
>>> Rando Bar from Velo Orange that I really liked at the time the So Bar was 
>>> released, and that's why I didn't buy it, but I love 50 cm + drop bars.
>>>
>>> It seems as though there is plans for a new iteration of the So Bar.  
>>> Sim Works USA wrote, "These were a very popular bar that we've temporarily 
>>> discontinued while we make some changes to a new version."
>>>
>>> I'm a bit of a Noodle/drop bar connoisseur myself.  I currently in use 
>>> the Crust Nullabar on my Monstercross, Sim Works Wild Honey on my Lightning 
>>> Bolt, and Ritchey Corralitos on my Hunqapillar.  I wish the Fairweather All 
>>> Road 174 AA bar was offered in a wider size, but my criticism of the 54 cm 
>>> Noodle is that it lost the back sweep that enjoyed in the Noodle as it got 
>>> wider.
>>>
>>>
>>> Fair winds,
>>>
>>> Captain Conway Bennett
>>> 239.877.4119 <(239)%20877-4119>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2024, 5:32 PM Conway Bennett  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Where did y'all read these were a lightweight Nitto Noodle?  They are 
 listed at 380 grams which is inline with other Noodles.  My understanding 
 was they were 50 cm wide--two cm wider than the then widest 48 cm 
 offering.  Then, Riv went all 7 minute abs and released the 52 and 54 
 centimeter variants.  I recently had a conversation with someone at Riv 
 regarding the widest Noodles who said that Nitto is trying to deprecate 
 the 
 26.0 clamp diameter.  I personally have had 46 cm Noodles, the Fairweather 
 174AA short shallow Noodle in 46 cm, and this week I swapped the 54 cm 
 ones 
 off my Hunqapillar in favor of the new Ritchey Corralitos bar which may be 
 my favorite drop bar for a longish top tube bike.  I wanted to like the 
 Noodle, but they have too much drop for me.

 On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 5:09:51 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> I absolutely snatch them up whenever I see them, and I never sell 
> them.  Buy the good stuff when it's available, before you need it.  
> That's 
> my advice.  ;)
>
> BL in EC
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

[Conway Bennett]

Bill,

Thanks for the clarification.  My posts weren't meant to be adversarial,
just pedantic.  I came into Riv via EcoVelo ~2010, and I didn't own my
first Riv until 2013, so the "Soba" predates me, and I thought that y'all
were using it colloquially for "So Bar"--the marketing content from Sim
Works makes references to literal soba noodles.  I'm curious if the
contemporary "So Bar" is inspired by the "Soba".


Fair winds,

Captain Conway Bennett
239.877.4119

On Sat, Apr 27, 2024, 12:48 AM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> The Simworks So Bar is a handlebar that resembles a Nitto Noodle but in a
> wide width that was made in the late 2010s and early 2020s
>
> The Nitto Soba Noodle is a completely different handlebar that was made by
> Nitto and offered by Rivendell in the mid to late 2000s
>
> Do not conflate the two.  This thread and WTB is focused on the Nitto Soba
> Noodle -NOT- the Simworks So Bar.
>
> BL in EC
>
>
> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 5:40:48 PM UTC-7 captaincon...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I think the So Bar came out in the fall of 2018.  Here's the intro from
>> Sim Works:
>>
>> https://sim-works.com/en/news/ramen-nope-i-take-so-bar
>>
>> They also appear to have a sleeve.  But I've never owned the So Bar, so I
>> don't know what the production model was like in practice.  I had a 50 cm
>> Rando Bar from Velo Orange that I really liked at the time the So Bar was
>> released, and that's why I didn't buy it, but I love 50 cm + drop bars.
>>
>> It seems as though there is plans for a new iteration of the So Bar.  Sim
>> Works USA wrote, "These were a very popular bar that we've temporarily
>> discontinued while we make some changes to a new version."
>>
>> I'm a bit of a Noodle/drop bar connoisseur myself.  I currently in use
>> the Crust Nullabar on my Monstercross, Sim Works Wild Honey on my Lightning
>> Bolt, and Ritchey Corralitos on my Hunqapillar.  I wish the Fairweather All
>> Road 174 AA bar was offered in a wider size, but my criticism of the 54 cm
>> Noodle is that it lost the back sweep that enjoyed in the Noodle as it got
>> wider.
>>
>>
>> Fair winds,
>>
>> Captain Conway Bennett
>> 239.877.4119 <(239)%20877-4119>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2024, 5:32 PM Conway Bennett 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Where did y'all read these were a lightweight Nitto Noodle?  They are
>>> listed at 380 grams which is inline with other Noodles.  My understanding
>>> was they were 50 cm wide--two cm wider than the then widest 48 cm
>>> offering.  Then, Riv went all 7 minute abs and released the 52 and 54
>>> centimeter variants.  I recently had a conversation with someone at Riv
>>> regarding the widest Noodles who said that Nitto is trying to deprecate the
>>> 26.0 clamp diameter.  I personally have had 46 cm Noodles, the Fairweather
>>> 174AA short shallow Noodle in 46 cm, and this week I swapped the 54 cm ones
>>> off my Hunqapillar in favor of the new Ritchey Corralitos bar which may be
>>> my favorite drop bar for a longish top tube bike.  I wanted to like the
>>> Noodle, but they have too much drop for me.
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 5:09:51 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 I absolutely snatch them up whenever I see them, and I never sell
 them.  Buy the good stuff when it's available, before you need it.  That's
 my advice.  ;)

 BL in EC

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

[Igor]

Retro-Gression sells both the Noodle (Which is the M177) and the Dream 
(M176). Both, per the description, are designed by Rivendell, and I notice 
that the M176 is 26mm clamp, has a 140mm drop/90mm reach - is this the Soba 
or something 
else? https://www.retro-gression.com/products/nitto-m176-dream-handlebar 

On Saturday, April 27, 2024 at 1:48:11 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> The Simworks So Bar is a handlebar that resembles a Nitto Noodle but in a 
> wide width that was made in the late 2010s and early 2020s
>
> The Nitto Soba Noodle is a completely different handlebar that was made by 
> Nitto and offered by Rivendell in the mid to late 2000s 
>
> Do not conflate the two.  This thread and WTB is focused on the Nitto Soba 
> Noodle -NOT- the Simworks So Bar. 
>
> BL in EC
>
>
> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 5:40:48 PM UTC-7 captaincon...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I think the So Bar came out in the fall of 2018.  Here's the intro from 
>> Sim Works:
>>
>> https://sim-works.com/en/news/ramen-nope-i-take-so-bar
>>
>> They also appear to have a sleeve.  But I've never owned the So Bar, so I 
>> don't know what the production model was like in practice.  I had a 50 cm 
>> Rando Bar from Velo Orange that I really liked at the time the So Bar was 
>> released, and that's why I didn't buy it, but I love 50 cm + drop bars.
>>
>> It seems as though there is plans for a new iteration of the So Bar.  Sim 
>> Works USA wrote, "These were a very popular bar that we've temporarily 
>> discontinued while we make some changes to a new version."
>>
>> I'm a bit of a Noodle/drop bar connoisseur myself.  I currently in use 
>> the Crust Nullabar on my Monstercross, Sim Works Wild Honey on my Lightning 
>> Bolt, and Ritchey Corralitos on my Hunqapillar.  I wish the Fairweather All 
>> Road 174 AA bar was offered in a wider size, but my criticism of the 54 cm 
>> Noodle is that it lost the back sweep that enjoyed in the Noodle as it got 
>> wider.
>>
>>
>> Fair winds,
>>
>> Captain Conway Bennett
>> 239.877.4119 <(239)%20877-4119>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2024, 5:32 PM Conway Bennett  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Where did y'all read these were a lightweight Nitto Noodle?  They are 
>>> listed at 380 grams which is inline with other Noodles.  My understanding 
>>> was they were 50 cm wide--two cm wider than the then widest 48 cm 
>>> offering.  Then, Riv went all 7 minute abs and released the 52 and 54 
>>> centimeter variants.  I recently had a conversation with someone at Riv 
>>> regarding the widest Noodles who said that Nitto is trying to deprecate the 
>>> 26.0 clamp diameter.  I personally have had 46 cm Noodles, the Fairweather 
>>> 174AA short shallow Noodle in 46 cm, and this week I swapped the 54 cm ones 
>>> off my Hunqapillar in favor of the new Ritchey Corralitos bar which may be 
>>> my favorite drop bar for a longish top tube bike.  I wanted to like the 
>>> Noodle, but they have too much drop for me.
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 5:09:51 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 I absolutely snatch them up whenever I see them, and I never sell 
 them.  Buy the good stuff when it's available, before you need it.  That's 
 my advice.  ;)

 BL in EC

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

[Bill Lindsay]

The Simworks So Bar is a handlebar that resembles a Nitto Noodle but in a 
wide width that was made in the late 2010s and early 2020s

The Nitto Soba Noodle is a completely different handlebar that was made by 
Nitto and offered by Rivendell in the mid to late 2000s 

Do not conflate the two.  This thread and WTB is focused on the Nitto Soba 
Noodle -NOT- the Simworks So Bar. 

BL in EC


On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 5:40:48 PM UTC-7 captaincon...@gmail.com wrote:

> I think the So Bar came out in the fall of 2018.  Here's the intro from 
> Sim Works:
>
> https://sim-works.com/en/news/ramen-nope-i-take-so-bar
>
> They also appear to have a sleeve.  But I've never owned the So Bar, so I 
> don't know what the production model was like in practice.  I had a 50 cm 
> Rando Bar from Velo Orange that I really liked at the time the So Bar was 
> released, and that's why I didn't buy it, but I love 50 cm + drop bars.
>
> It seems as though there is plans for a new iteration of the So Bar.  Sim 
> Works USA wrote, "These were a very popular bar that we've temporarily 
> discontinued while we make some changes to a new version."
>
> I'm a bit of a Noodle/drop bar connoisseur myself.  I currently in use the 
> Crust Nullabar on my Monstercross, Sim Works Wild Honey on my Lightning 
> Bolt, and Ritchey Corralitos on my Hunqapillar.  I wish the Fairweather All 
> Road 174 AA bar was offered in a wider size, but my criticism of the 54 cm 
> Noodle is that it lost the back sweep that enjoyed in the Noodle as it got 
> wider.
>
>
> Fair winds,
>
> Captain Conway Bennett
> 239.877.4119 <(239)%20877-4119>
>
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2024, 5:32 PM Conway Bennett  
> wrote:
>
>> Where did y'all read these were a lightweight Nitto Noodle?  They are 
>> listed at 380 grams which is inline with other Noodles.  My understanding 
>> was they were 50 cm wide--two cm wider than the then widest 48 cm 
>> offering.  Then, Riv went all 7 minute abs and released the 52 and 54 
>> centimeter variants.  I recently had a conversation with someone at Riv 
>> regarding the widest Noodles who said that Nitto is trying to deprecate the 
>> 26.0 clamp diameter.  I personally have had 46 cm Noodles, the Fairweather 
>> 174AA short shallow Noodle in 46 cm, and this week I swapped the 54 cm ones 
>> off my Hunqapillar in favor of the new Ritchey Corralitos bar which may be 
>> my favorite drop bar for a longish top tube bike.  I wanted to like the 
>> Noodle, but they have too much drop for me.
>>
>> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 5:09:51 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> I absolutely snatch them up whenever I see them, and I never sell them.  
>>> Buy the good stuff when it's available, before you need it.  That's my 
>>> advice.  ;)
>>>
>>> BL in EC
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

[Conway Bennett]

I think the So Bar came out in the fall of 2018.  Here's the intro from Sim
Works:

https://sim-works.com/en/news/ramen-nope-i-take-so-bar

They also appear to have a sleeve.  But I've never owned the So Bar, so I
don't know what the production model was like in practice.  I had a 50 cm
Rando Bar from Velo Orange that I really liked at the time the So Bar was
released, and that's why I didn't buy it, but I love 50 cm + drop bars.

It seems as though there is plans for a new iteration of the So Bar.  Sim
Works USA wrote, "These were a very popular bar that we've temporarily
discontinued while we make some changes to a new version."

I'm a bit of a Noodle/drop bar connoisseur myself.  I currently in use the
Crust Nullabar on my Monstercross, Sim Works Wild Honey on my Lightning
Bolt, and Ritchey Corralitos on my Hunqapillar.  I wish the Fairweather All
Road 174 AA bar was offered in a wider size, but my criticism of the 54 cm
Noodle is that it lost the back sweep that enjoyed in the Noodle as it got
wider.


Fair winds,

Captain Conway Bennett
239.877.4119

On Fri, Apr 26, 2024, 5:32 PM Conway Bennett 
wrote:

> Where did y'all read these were a lightweight Nitto Noodle?  They are
> listed at 380 grams which is inline with other Noodles.  My understanding
> was they were 50 cm wide--two cm wider than the then widest 48 cm
> offering.  Then, Riv went all 7 minute abs and released the 52 and 54
> centimeter variants.  I recently had a conversation with someone at Riv
> regarding the widest Noodles who said that Nitto is trying to deprecate the
> 26.0 clamp diameter.  I personally have had 46 cm Noodles, the Fairweather
> 174AA short shallow Noodle in 46 cm, and this week I swapped the 54 cm ones
> off my Hunqapillar in favor of the new Ritchey Corralitos bar which may be
> my favorite drop bar for a longish top tube bike.  I wanted to like the
> Noodle, but they have too much drop for me.
>
> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 5:09:51 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> I absolutely snatch them up whenever I see them, and I never sell them.
>> Buy the good stuff when it's available, before you need it.  That's my
>> advice.  ;)
>>
>> BL in EC
>>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

[Johnny Alien]

When RIvendell sold them back in the day I think Grant said they were about 
60g lighter than a standard noodle bar. That is right in line with what you 
found, Bill.

On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 7:26:39 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> "Where did y'all read these were a lightweight Nitto Noodle?"  
>
> They were already out of production when I came in 2009.  If I type "Nitto 
> Soba Noodle" into the googler, I get hits to bike forums in 2007 discussing 
> them.   At that time they are talking about how the regular Noodle mod 177 
> is the heavier cheaper version, and the Soba Noodle is in Nittos 
> "ultralight" flavor.  
>
> There are 9 of them in my garage right now.  8 are on bikes, and 1 is 
> loose.  7 are Mod 177 Noodles, and 2 are the Soba Noodle.  The shape is 
> identical.  I guess you'd just have to take my word for it.  I'm kind of a 
> Noodle zealot.  Most of the 9 in my garage are 460mm and a couple are 
> 440mm.  
>
> The loose bar is the model 177 regular Noodle.  It has 460 stamped in the 
> end and it measures 460mm center to center.  The Soba Noodle that went on 
> my new Roadeo had 460 stamped in the end and it also measures 460mm center 
> to center.  The regular Noodle has a "sleeve" in the middle, with embossed 
> Nitto graphics into the metal of the sleeve.  The Soba Noodle has a bulge 
> in the middle, and the Nitto graphics are black ink or similar printing on 
> the metal.  My build notes indicate I weighed the Soba Noodle at 310g.  The 
> loose regular 460mm Noodle weighs 372g on the same gram scale just now.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA 
>
> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 3:32:19 PM UTC-7 captaincon...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Where did y'all read these were a lightweight Nitto Noodle?  They are 
>> listed at 380 grams which is inline with other Noodles.  My understanding 
>> was they were 50 cm wide--two cm wider than the then widest 48 cm 
>> offering.  Then, Riv went all 7 minute abs and released the 52 and 54 
>> centimeter variants.  I recently had a conversation with someone at Riv 
>> regarding the widest Noodles who said that Nitto is trying to deprecate the 
>> 26.0 clamp diameter.  I personally have had 46 cm Noodles, the Fairweather 
>> 174AA short shallow Noodle in 46 cm, and this week I swapped the 54 cm ones 
>> off my Hunqapillar in favor of the new Ritchey Corralitos bar which may be 
>> my favorite drop bar for a longish top tube bike.  I wanted to like the 
>> Noodle, but they have too much drop for me.
>>
>> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 5:09:51 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> I absolutely snatch them up whenever I see them, and I never sell them. 
>>>  Buy the good stuff when it's available, before you need it.  That's my 
>>> advice.  ;)
>>>
>>> BL in EC
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

[Bill Lindsay]

"Where did y'all read these were a lightweight Nitto Noodle?"  

They were already out of production when I came in 2009.  If I type "Nitto 
Soba Noodle" into the googler, I get hits to bike forums in 2007 discussing 
them.   At that time they are talking about how the regular Noodle mod 177 
is the heavier cheaper version, and the Soba Noodle is in Nittos 
"ultralight" flavor.  

There are 9 of them in my garage right now.  8 are on bikes, and 1 is 
loose.  7 are Mod 177 Noodles, and 2 are the Soba Noodle.  The shape is 
identical.  I guess you'd just have to take my word for it.  I'm kind of a 
Noodle zealot.  Most of the 9 in my garage are 460mm and a couple are 
440mm.  

The loose bar is the model 177 regular Noodle.  It has 460 stamped in the 
end and it measures 460mm center to center.  The Soba Noodle that went on 
my new Roadeo had 460 stamped in the end and it also measures 460mm center 
to center.  The regular Noodle has a "sleeve" in the middle, with embossed 
Nitto graphics into the metal of the sleeve.  The Soba Noodle has a bulge 
in the middle, and the Nitto graphics are black ink or similar printing on 
the metal.  My build notes indicate I weighed the Soba Noodle at 310g.  The 
loose regular 460mm Noodle weighs 372g on the same gram scale just now.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA 

On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 3:32:19 PM UTC-7 captaincon...@gmail.com wrote:

> Where did y'all read these were a lightweight Nitto Noodle?  They are 
> listed at 380 grams which is inline with other Noodles.  My understanding 
> was they were 50 cm wide--two cm wider than the then widest 48 cm 
> offering.  Then, Riv went all 7 minute abs and released the 52 and 54 
> centimeter variants.  I recently had a conversation with someone at Riv 
> regarding the widest Noodles who said that Nitto is trying to deprecate the 
> 26.0 clamp diameter.  I personally have had 46 cm Noodles, the Fairweather 
> 174AA short shallow Noodle in 46 cm, and this week I swapped the 54 cm ones 
> off my Hunqapillar in favor of the new Ritchey Corralitos bar which may be 
> my favorite drop bar for a longish top tube bike.  I wanted to like the 
> Noodle, but they have too much drop for me.
>
> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 5:09:51 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> I absolutely snatch them up whenever I see them, and I never sell them. 
>>  Buy the good stuff when it's available, before you need it.  That's my 
>> advice.  ;)
>>
>> BL in EC
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

[Conway Bennett]

Where did y'all read these were a lightweight Nitto Noodle?  They are 
listed at 380 grams which is inline with other Noodles.  My understanding 
was they were 50 cm wide--two cm wider than the then widest 48 cm 
offering.  Then, Riv went all 7 minute abs and released the 52 and 54 
centimeter variants.  I recently had a conversation with someone at Riv 
regarding the widest Noodles who said that Nitto is trying to deprecate the 
26.0 clamp diameter.  I personally have had 46 cm Noodles, the Fairweather 
174AA short shallow Noodle in 46 cm, and this week I swapped the 54 cm ones 
off my Hunqapillar in favor of the new Ritchey Corralitos bar which may be 
my favorite drop bar for a longish top tube bike.  I wanted to like the 
Noodle, but they have too much drop for me.

On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 5:09:51 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> I absolutely snatch them up whenever I see them, and I never sell them. 
>  Buy the good stuff when it's available, before you need it.  That's my 
> advice.  ;)
>
> BL in EC
>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

[Bill Lindsay]

I absolutely snatch them up whenever I see them, and I never sell them. 
 Buy the good stuff when it's available, before you need it.  That's my 
advice.  ;)

BL in EC

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

[Johnny Alien]

Look at Bill just strolling in and flexing about his super stash of these 
bars.  :)

It looks like I might have a line on one but I agree that they would knock 
these out quick if they did a small release of them.

On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 3:16:45 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> I've got three of them in my stable, and would buy several more.  I've 
> told Grant at least once that if he got Nitto to make 200 of them, and he 
> did a presale at $150, that I bet he could pre-sell them before any of them 
> actually get made.  That would be a nice $30,000 cash flow exercise.  I'm 
> sure there are barriers to doing such a thing that I don't know, but the 
> $140 MSRP on Rene Herse bars certainly suggests that $150 is a price point 
> that would make sense for all involved.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 10:00:31 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> Every once and awhile I decide I want to search for some Soba bars again. 
>> This is the lightweight version of the Noodle handlebars. Anyone have a 
>> spare one they want to unload? Not really concerned about width.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 700c wheelset (135mm rear) for Homer

[Bill Lindsay]

Maybe?

Several years back I sold a Complete Toyo Atlantis to a neighbor.  I sold 
the whole bike for $1900 and now looking at it through a 2024 lens, I gave 
it away.  I reached out to my neighbor to see if he'd sell it back.  My 
neighbor indicated he lives overseas for now, and that he sold the frame 
set for $1400 a while back. The build kit is still in his garage, around 
the corner from me.  I've asked him to sell me back the build kit, and I'm 
awaiting his response on that.  If I procure that build kit, the wheel set 
would be sensational on a 700c Hilsen.  Nothing is assured quite yet.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA 

On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 12:11:36 PM UTC-7 Robert Calton wrote:

> Excited to assemble my upcoming Homer (first Riv!), but Velocity is 
> backordered on the Atlas rims and it might be a month or more until I could 
> get a pair. I'm curious if anyone here might have a wheelset for sale that 
> would fit. 
>
> I plan on using 43mm tires and Paul centerpull brakes, 8sp Shimano 
> cassette, would need a 135mm rear spacing. 

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

[Bill Lindsay]

I've got three of them in my stable, and would buy several more.  I've told 
Grant at least once that if he got Nitto to make 200 of them, and he did a 
presale at $150, that I bet he could pre-sell them before any of them 
actually get made.  That would be a nice $30,000 cash flow exercise.  I'm 
sure there are barriers to doing such a thing that I don't know, but the 
$140 MSRP on Rene Herse bars certainly suggests that $150 is a price point 
that would make sense for all involved.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 10:00:31 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Every once and awhile I decide I want to search for some Soba bars again. 
> This is the lightweight version of the Noodle handlebars. Anyone have a 
> spare one they want to unload? Not really concerned about width.

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

[Ken Yokanovich]

Another vote for product re-introduction, re-release.

-Ken who is not as concerned about the weight as much as has a preference 
for their simpler aesthetics.

On Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 12:00:31 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Every once and awhile I decide I want to search for some Soba bars again. 
> This is the lightweight version of the Noodle handlebars. Anyone have a 
> spare one they want to unload? Not really concerned about width.

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 54cm Appaloosa or Sam, or 53cm Atlantis

[Chuck Blessing]

Thanks. That one is not going to work for me, though.

On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 6:31:25 PM UTC-4 nca...@gmail.com wrote:

> Theres a 53 Atlantis in Columbus on the facebook group.  Thats just a hop 
> skip from you. 
>
> On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 6:27:36 PM UTC-4 cfic...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Preferably with swept bars (Choco, Losco, Billie, etc) or possibly frame 
>> only. I'm in Cincinnati, OH and could travel a reasonable distance to pick 
>> up, or shipping is possible. Also will be traveling to Kansas City, KS in 
>> June and could pick up along that route, as well. 
>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: 54cm Appaloosa or Sam, or 53cm Atlantis

[Robert Calton]

Theres a 53 Atlantis in Columbus on the facebook group.  Thats just a hop 
skip from you. 

On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 6:27:36 PM UTC-4 cfic...@gmail.com wrote:

> Preferably with swept bars (Choco, Losco, Billie, etc) or possibly frame 
> only. I'm in Cincinnati, OH and could travel a reasonable distance to pick 
> up, or shipping is possible. Also will be traveling to Kansas City, KS in 
> June and could pick up along that route, as well. 

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[RBW] Re: WTB Atlantis 53cm, Homer 54.5cm, frame or complete

[Robert Calton]

Also very interested in a Hillborne 52/54

On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 2:36:15 AM UTC-4 Robert Calton wrote:

> Looking for an Atlantis in 53cm or Homer in 54.5cm, frame or complete. I'm 
> in the Boston metro or I'll cover shipping. 
>
> Thank you for your time and consideration. :) 

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB - 9spd Dura Ace downtube shifters

[John Dewey]

Who among us has used Dura-Ace 9-speed dt levers long enough to ‘wear them
out’?

And if so, how long?

Jock

On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 2:28 PM Ted Durant  wrote:

> On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 2:48:19 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

Also, you can get brand new 9sp bar cons from Rivendell at $140, and
elsewhere for a few dollars less.  Some people run bar cons on their down
tube shifter bosses, and they work long fine.


>  FYI, Grant tells me that he thinks Shimano has stopped making the 9sp
> bar-end shifters "after 25 or 26 years of making them". Get 'em while you
> can, and expect the price to get eye-watering.
>
> And, yes, you can run them on the down tube. Interesting bit of RBW
> history ... I pointed this out to Grant a long time ago, and that the
> opposite was true, that downtube shifters could be mounted on Shimano
> bar-end pods. And thus were born the Silver 1 bar-end shifters.
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee WI USA
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB - 9spd Dura Ace downtube shifters

['Paul Germain' via RBW Owners Bunch]

 Many thanks Max. I will r=forward to my friend.
Regards,Paul Germain
On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 05:34:50 PM EDT, maxcr 
 wrote:  
 
 Here's an expensive set NOS 9 speed 7700 model $225 (no connection to the 
seller): 
https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/bop/d/mason-nos-shimano-dura-ace-7700/7721948827.htmlAnd
 a used set at a great price $70 for the 10 speed 7800 model (no connection to 
the seller): 
https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/bop/d/saint-paul-shimano-dura-ace-sl-speed/7721310412.htmlMax

On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 5:27:57 PM UTC-4 Ted Durant wrote:

On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 2:48:19 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

Also, you can get brand new 9sp bar cons from Rivendell at $140, and elsewhere 
for a few dollars less.  Some people run bar cons on their down tube shifter 
bosses, and they work fine.

 FYI, Grant tells me that he thinks Shimano has stopped making the 9sp bar-end 
shifters "after 25 or 26 years of making them". Get 'em while you can, and 
expect the price to get eye-watering. 
And, yes, you can run them on the down tube. Interesting bit of RBW history ... 
I pointed this out to Grant a long time ago, and that the opposite was true, 
that downtube shifters could be mounted on Shimano bar-end pods. And thus were 
born the Silver 1 bar-end shifters.
Ted DurantMilwaukee WI USA 


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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB - 9spd Dura Ace downtube shifters

['Paul Germain' via RBW Owners Bunch]

 Thanks Ted. I will pass this along to my friend.
Regards,Paul Germain


On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 05:28:07 PM EDT, Ted Durant 
 wrote:  
 
 On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 2:48:19 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

Also, you can get brand new 9sp bar cons from Rivendell at $140, and elsewhere 
for a few dollars less.  Some people run bar cons on their down tube shifter 
bosses, and they work fine.

 FYI, Grant tells me that he thinks Shimano has stopped making the 9sp bar-end 
shifters "after 25 or 26 years of making them". Get 'em while you can, and 
expect the price to get eye-watering. 
And, yes, you can run them on the down tube. Interesting bit of RBW history ... 
I pointed this out to Grant a long time ago, and that the opposite was true, 
that downtube shifters could be mounted on Shimano bar-end pods. And thus were 
born the Silver 1 bar-end shifters.
Ted DurantMilwaukee WI USA 

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB - 9spd Dura Ace downtube shifters

['Paul Germain' via RBW Owners Bunch]

 Thanks Bill. I will pass this along to my friend. I think he did check eBay 
was put off by prices.
Regards,Paul Germain
On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 03:48:27 PM EDT, Bill Lindsay 
 wrote:  
 
 It's not a unicorn.  It's just very very old.  Find them on eBay for $150 to 
$200.  They are worth every penny, IMO.  I think the best price I ever paid for 
used ones here on I-Bob was around $50, but that was a situation where I 
pounced the moment they were offered, and they went into my own inventory.  
Does your friend have a budget?  Also, you can get brand new 9sp bar cons from 
Rivendell at $140, and elsewhere for a few dollars less.  Some people run bar 
cons on their down tube shifter bosses, and they work fine.
Bill LindsayEl Cerrito, CA

On Tuesday, April 9, 2024 at 8:22:46 PM UTC-7 Bikie#4646 wrote:

Asking for a good friend. I can facilitate the sale.Is this a unicorn? 
Paul GermainMidlothian, Va.


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[RBW] Re: WTB - 9spd Dura Ace downtube shifters

[maxcr]

Here's an expensive set NOS 9 speed 7700 model $225 (no connection to the 
seller): 
https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/bop/d/mason-nos-shimano-dura-ace-7700/7721948827.html
And a used set at a great price $70 for the 10 speed 7800 model (no 
connection to the seller): 
https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/bop/d/saint-paul-shimano-dura-ace-sl-speed/7721310412.html
Max

On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 5:27:57 PM UTC-4 Ted Durant wrote:

> On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 2:48:19 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Also, you can get brand new 9sp bar cons from Rivendell at $140, and 
> elsewhere for a few dollars less.  Some people run bar cons on their down 
> tube shifter bosses, and they work fine.
>
>
>  FYI, Grant tells me that he thinks Shimano has stopped making the 9sp 
> bar-end shifters "after 25 or 26 years of making them". Get 'em while you 
> can, and expect the price to get eye-watering. 
>
> And, yes, you can run them on the down tube. Interesting bit of RBW 
> history ... I pointed this out to Grant a long time ago, and that the 
> opposite was true, that downtube shifters could be mounted on Shimano 
> bar-end pods. And thus were born the Silver 1 bar-end shifters.
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee WI USA 
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB - 9spd Dura Ace downtube shifters

[Ted Durant]

On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 2:48:19 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

Also, you can get brand new 9sp bar cons from Rivendell at $140, and 
elsewhere for a few dollars less.  Some people run bar cons on their down 
tube shifter bosses, and they work fine.


 FYI, Grant tells me that he thinks Shimano has stopped making the 9sp 
bar-end shifters "after 25 or 26 years of making them". Get 'em while you 
can, and expect the price to get eye-watering. 

And, yes, you can run them on the down tube. Interesting bit of RBW history 
... I pointed this out to Grant a long time ago, and that the opposite was 
true, that downtube shifters could be mounted on Shimano bar-end pods. And 
thus were born the Silver 1 bar-end shifters.

Ted Durant
Milwaukee WI USA 

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[RBW] Re: WTB - 9spd Dura Ace downtube shifters

[Bill Lindsay]

It's not a unicorn.  It's just very very old.  Find them on eBay for $150 
to $200.  They are worth every penny, IMO.  I think the best price I ever 
paid for used ones here on I-Bob was around $50, but that was a situation 
where I pounced the moment they were offered, and they went into my own 
inventory.  Does your friend have a budget?  Also, you can get brand new 
9sp bar cons from Rivendell at $140, and elsewhere for a few dollars less. 
 Some people run bar cons on their down tube shifter bosses, and they work 
fine.

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Tuesday, April 9, 2024 at 8:22:46 PM UTC-7 Bikie#4646 wrote:

> Asking for a good friend. I can facilitate the sale.
> Is this a unicorn? 
>
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB 26" Front Wheel with Generator Hub

[JohnS]

Thank Ian for the links. I'm pressed by all the lighting options they have! 

JohnS


On Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 11:15:44 AM UTC-4 Ian A wrote:

> John,
>
> Since 2013,  have bought from bike24.de, rose.de and bike-discount.de in 
> Germany. All have been excellent.  My last order was in 2020 from Rose 
> Bike, when I couldn't find what I needed locally. Things have changed over 
> the past 10 years or so. There are quite a number of restrictions by 
> manufacturers as to what can leave the EU (in order to protect local North 
> America vendors, which makes good sense) and things like batteries now fall 
> under restrictions for dangerous cargo. Rose removed the cycle computer 
> from my order because of the single CR2032 battery couldn't be shipped 
> outside of the EU without extensive paperwork!
>
> Naturally, with this being the RBW list, look for local options first. 
> Maybe a list member is holding just what you are looking for. :)
>
> IanA Kitimat BC
> On Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 6:13:46 AM UTC-7 JohnS wrote:
>
>> Thank you Ian, the quality of the hub is something to consider. You 
>> mention ordering from German sites, is there one or two that you can 
>> recommend?
>>
>> JohnS
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 5:39:10 PM UTC-4 Ian A wrote:
>>
>>> Just be aware that is a fairly low end dynamo in the Shimano range. 
>>> Slightly heavy and draggy in comparison to the higher end Shimano and SP 
>>> products.
>>>
>>> Some shopping around on the German sites might get you an SP hub or an 
>>> LX/XT hub built into a wheel. Shimano does have a restriction on allowing 
>>> the export of their products from Europe to North America. A complete wheel 
>>> might be excepted from the restriction. 
>>>
>>> I have bought a fair bit of stuff over the years (Tubus racks, B 
>>> lights, Brooks Saddles, Ortlieb panniers and handlebar bag, tires, spokes 
>>> and nipples etc) and quite a few of those items are now restricted for 
>>> export. Xxcycle in France doesn't seem to observe those restrictions (yet). 
>>> Maybe they do now,  my last order was while back.
>>>
>>> My main reason for ordering from Germany is because the economy shipping 
>>> option comes through the regular postal system and gets delivered by Canada 
>>> Post on this end. Canadian consumers will have horror stories of shipments 
>>> delivered via UPS and FedEx due to the brokerage fees for customs entry. 
>>> Also, shipping tends to be faster to Canada from Europe than from the USA. 
>>>
>>> IanA Deepest, darkest BC, Canada
>>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:59:09 PM UTC-7 JohnS wrote:
>>>

 Even better! And they have a ton of stuff on sale, so I could add 
 socks, gloves or a jersey to the box and won't impact the shipping.

 JohnS

 On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 4:42:39 PM UTC-4 mathiass...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

>  >> so the total price will be between 125 and 130 Euro; a Euro being 
> $1.08 at the moment. 
>
> That's WITH shipping. 
>
> >> 124.95 € instead of €165.95
> >> Price incl. VAT plus €24.55 (for delivery to United States of 
> America)
> >> Product code: 234412101"
>
> Lighting articles in general are a great deal over there, bc they're a 
> commodity. Most bikes in Germany are sold with lighting -- it's required 
> on 
> bikes used on public roads, with some exemptions for lightweight road 
> bikes 
> -- so it's a huge market, and that helps.
>
> cheers -m
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 4:08:12 PM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:
>
>> Thank you Mathias, that looks like a good deal, I'll have to check to 
>> see what the shipping would be. I may go that route if isn't too 
>> expensive 
>> and I don't hear from someone on the list.
>>
>> Hello NYCBikeGuy, sorry to give the impression that I know how to 
>> build wheels, I don't, but I've heard swapping rims isn't too hard, so I 
>> was going to give it a try if needed.
>>
>> JohnS
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:28:58 PM UTC-4 NYCbikeguy wrote:
>>
>>> You seem to be savvy in wheel building. I have a disk brake dynamo 
>>> in gold currently laced to a 700c rim with machined sidewall for rim 
>>> brakes 
>>> (so versatile!) Let me know if you're interested. I'll send pics.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:01:53 PM UTC-4 
>>> mathiass...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Here's a new option:


 https://www.rosebikes.com/rose-dt-swiss-535shimano-dh-3d32-qr-26-discnon-disc-mtb-front-wheel-2721231?article_size=6853_shape=1

 you get the 19 % VAT deducted when shipping to the U.S. so the 
 total price will be between 125 and 130 Euro; a Euro being $1.08 at 
 the 
 moment. I've had excellent luck with Rose products; they sold 700x35 
 mm 
 Pasela Tourguards last year for $17 a pop -- 

[RBW] Re: WTB 26" Front Wheel with Generator Hub

[Ian A]

John,

Since 2013,  have bought from bike24.de, rose.de and bike-discount.de in 
Germany. All have been excellent.  My last order was in 2020 from Rose 
Bike, when I couldn't find what I needed locally. Things have changed over 
the past 10 years or so. There are quite a number of restrictions by 
manufacturers as to what can leave the EU (in order to protect local North 
America vendors, which makes good sense) and things like batteries now fall 
under restrictions for dangerous cargo. Rose removed the cycle computer 
from my order because of the single CR2032 battery couldn't be shipped 
outside of the EU without extensive paperwork!

Naturally, with this being the RBW list, look for local options first. 
Maybe a list member is holding just what you are looking for. :)

IanA Kitimat BC
On Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 6:13:46 AM UTC-7 JohnS wrote:

> Thank you Ian, the quality of the hub is something to consider. You 
> mention ordering from German sites, is there one or two that you can 
> recommend?
>
> JohnS
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 5:39:10 PM UTC-4 Ian A wrote:
>
>> Just be aware that is a fairly low end dynamo in the Shimano range. 
>> Slightly heavy and draggy in comparison to the higher end Shimano and SP 
>> products.
>>
>> Some shopping around on the German sites might get you an SP hub or an 
>> LX/XT hub built into a wheel. Shimano does have a restriction on allowing 
>> the export of their products from Europe to North America. A complete wheel 
>> might be excepted from the restriction. 
>>
>> I have bought a fair bit of stuff over the years (Tubus racks, B 
>> lights, Brooks Saddles, Ortlieb panniers and handlebar bag, tires, spokes 
>> and nipples etc) and quite a few of those items are now restricted for 
>> export. Xxcycle in France doesn't seem to observe those restrictions (yet). 
>> Maybe they do now,  my last order was while back.
>>
>> My main reason for ordering from Germany is because the economy shipping 
>> option comes through the regular postal system and gets delivered by Canada 
>> Post on this end. Canadian consumers will have horror stories of shipments 
>> delivered via UPS and FedEx due to the brokerage fees for customs entry. 
>> Also, shipping tends to be faster to Canada from Europe than from the USA. 
>>
>> IanA Deepest, darkest BC, Canada
>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:59:09 PM UTC-7 JohnS wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Even better! And they have a ton of stuff on sale, so I could add socks, 
>>> gloves or a jersey to the box and won't impact the shipping.
>>>
>>> JohnS
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 4:42:39 PM UTC-4 mathiass...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
  >> so the total price will be between 125 and 130 Euro; a Euro being 
 $1.08 at the moment. 

 That's WITH shipping. 

 >> 124.95 € instead of €165.95
 >> Price incl. VAT plus €24.55 (for delivery to United States of 
 America)
 >> Product code: 234412101"

 Lighting articles in general are a great deal over there, bc they're a 
 commodity. Most bikes in Germany are sold with lighting -- it's required 
 on 
 bikes used on public roads, with some exemptions for lightweight road 
 bikes 
 -- so it's a huge market, and that helps.

 cheers -m


 On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 4:08:12 PM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:

> Thank you Mathias, that looks like a good deal, I'll have to check to 
> see what the shipping would be. I may go that route if isn't too 
> expensive 
> and I don't hear from someone on the list.
>
> Hello NYCBikeGuy, sorry to give the impression that I know how to 
> build wheels, I don't, but I've heard swapping rims isn't too hard, so I 
> was going to give it a try if needed.
>
> JohnS
>
> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:28:58 PM UTC-4 NYCbikeguy wrote:
>
>> You seem to be savvy in wheel building. I have a disk brake dynamo in 
>> gold currently laced to a 700c rim with machined sidewall for rim brakes 
>> (so versatile!) Let me know if you're interested. I'll send pics.
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:01:53 PM UTC-4 
>> mathiass...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Here's a new option:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.rosebikes.com/rose-dt-swiss-535shimano-dh-3d32-qr-26-discnon-disc-mtb-front-wheel-2721231?article_size=6853_shape=1
>>>
>>> you get the 19 % VAT deducted when shipping to the U.S. so the total 
>>> price will be between 125 and 130 Euro; a Euro being $1.08 at the 
>>> moment. 
>>> I've had excellent luck with Rose products; they sold 700x35 mm Pasela 
>>> Tourguards last year for $17 a pop -- less than half the price 
>>> stateside.
>>>
>>> cheers -mathias
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 10:51:13 AM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:
>>>
 Hello All,

 Looking to make my '82 Stumpy a year round errand runner, so dyno 
 lights are the way 

[RBW] Re: WTB 26" Front Wheel with Generator Hub

[JohnS]

Thank you Ian, the quality of the hub is something to consider. You mention 
ordering from German sites, is there one or two that you can recommend?

JohnS


On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 5:39:10 PM UTC-4 Ian A wrote:

> Just be aware that is a fairly low end dynamo in the Shimano range. 
> Slightly heavy and draggy in comparison to the higher end Shimano and SP 
> products.
>
> Some shopping around on the German sites might get you an SP hub or an 
> LX/XT hub built into a wheel. Shimano does have a restriction on allowing 
> the export of their products from Europe to North America. A complete wheel 
> might be excepted from the restriction. 
>
> I have bought a fair bit of stuff over the years (Tubus racks, B lights, 
> Brooks Saddles, Ortlieb panniers and handlebar bag, tires, spokes and 
> nipples etc) and quite a few of those items are now restricted for export. 
> Xxcycle in France doesn't seem to observe those restrictions (yet). Maybe 
> they do now,  my last order was while back.
>
> My main reason for ordering from Germany is because the economy shipping 
> option comes through the regular postal system and gets delivered by Canada 
> Post on this end. Canadian consumers will have horror stories of shipments 
> delivered via UPS and FedEx due to the brokerage fees for customs entry. 
> Also, shipping tends to be faster to Canada from Europe than from the USA. 
>
> IanA Deepest, darkest BC, Canada
> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:59:09 PM UTC-7 JohnS wrote:
>
>>
>> Even better! And they have a ton of stuff on sale, so I could add socks, 
>> gloves or a jersey to the box and won't impact the shipping.
>>
>> JohnS
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 4:42:39 PM UTC-4 mathiass...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  >> so the total price will be between 125 and 130 Euro; a Euro being 
>>> $1.08 at the moment. 
>>>
>>> That's WITH shipping. 
>>>
>>> >> 124.95 € instead of €165.95
>>> >> Price incl. VAT plus €24.55 (for delivery to United States of America)
>>> >> Product code: 234412101"
>>>
>>> Lighting articles in general are a great deal over there, bc they're a 
>>> commodity. Most bikes in Germany are sold with lighting -- it's required on 
>>> bikes used on public roads, with some exemptions for lightweight road bikes 
>>> -- so it's a huge market, and that helps.
>>>
>>> cheers -m
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 4:08:12 PM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:
>>>
 Thank you Mathias, that looks like a good deal, I'll have to check to 
 see what the shipping would be. I may go that route if isn't too expensive 
 and I don't hear from someone on the list.

 Hello NYCBikeGuy, sorry to give the impression that I know how to build 
 wheels, I don't, but I've heard swapping rims isn't too hard, so I was 
 going to give it a try if needed.

 JohnS

 On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:28:58 PM UTC-4 NYCbikeguy wrote:

> You seem to be savvy in wheel building. I have a disk brake dynamo in 
> gold currently laced to a 700c rim with machined sidewall for rim brakes 
> (so versatile!) Let me know if you're interested. I'll send pics.
>
> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:01:53 PM UTC-4 mathiass...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Here's a new option:
>>
>>
>> https://www.rosebikes.com/rose-dt-swiss-535shimano-dh-3d32-qr-26-discnon-disc-mtb-front-wheel-2721231?article_size=6853_shape=1
>>
>> you get the 19 % VAT deducted when shipping to the U.S. so the total 
>> price will be between 125 and 130 Euro; a Euro being $1.08 at the 
>> moment. 
>> I've had excellent luck with Rose products; they sold 700x35 mm Pasela 
>> Tourguards last year for $17 a pop -- less than half the price stateside.
>>
>> cheers -mathias
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 10:51:13 AM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:
>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> Looking to make my '82 Stumpy a year round errand runner, so dyno 
>>> lights are the way to go.
>>>
>>> Requirements:
>>> 26" rim brake for a wider tire. I plan to use RH 26" x 2.3" Rat Trap 
>>> pass tires.
>>> 100 mm spacing.
>>> 6V, 3W power output for front and rear LED lights.
>>> Good working order and can be serviced (no rusty axle nuts).
>>>
>>> Nice to have, but not required:
>>> Silver color, but black is ok.
>>> 32 spoke count (I have an extra rim, so if yours is worn out, I can 
>>> switch it).
>>> Looking to spend about $100 plus shipping to Allentown PA 18104.
>>> Hub brand is not too important to me, the exception would be the 
>>> Sanyo hub, I've read that it has noticeable drag.
>>>
>>> Please reply directly to me if you have one to unload.
>>> Thank you,
>>> JohnS
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB 26" Front Wheel with Generator Hub

[Ian A]

Just be aware that is a fairly low end dynamo in the Shimano range. 
Slightly heavy and draggy in comparison to the higher end Shimano and SP 
products.

Some shopping around on the German sites might get you an SP hub or an 
LX/XT hub built into a wheel. Shimano does have a restriction on allowing 
the export of their products from Europe to North America. A complete wheel 
might be excepted from the restriction. 

I have bought a fair bit of stuff over the years (Tubus racks, B lights, 
Brooks Saddles, Ortlieb panniers and handlebar bag, tires, spokes and 
nipples etc) and quite a few of those items are now restricted for export. 
Xxcycle in France doesn't seem to observe those restrictions (yet). Maybe 
they do now,  my last order was while back.

My main reason for ordering from Germany is because the economy shipping 
option comes through the regular postal system and gets delivered by Canada 
Post on this end. Canadian consumers will have horror stories of shipments 
delivered via UPS and FedEx due to the brokerage fees for customs entry. 
Also, shipping tends to be faster to Canada from Europe than from the USA. 

IanA Deepest, darkest BC, Canada
On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:59:09 PM UTC-7 JohnS wrote:

>
> Even better! And they have a ton of stuff on sale, so I could add socks, 
> gloves or a jersey to the box and won't impact the shipping.
>
> JohnS
>
> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 4:42:39 PM UTC-4 mathiass...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>>  >> so the total price will be between 125 and 130 Euro; a Euro being 
>> $1.08 at the moment. 
>>
>> That's WITH shipping. 
>>
>> >> 124.95 € instead of €165.95
>> >> Price incl. VAT plus €24.55 (for delivery to United States of America)
>> >> Product code: 234412101"
>>
>> Lighting articles in general are a great deal over there, bc they're a 
>> commodity. Most bikes in Germany are sold with lighting -- it's required on 
>> bikes used on public roads, with some exemptions for lightweight road bikes 
>> -- so it's a huge market, and that helps.
>>
>> cheers -m
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 4:08:12 PM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Mathias, that looks like a good deal, I'll have to check to 
>>> see what the shipping would be. I may go that route if isn't too expensive 
>>> and I don't hear from someone on the list.
>>>
>>> Hello NYCBikeGuy, sorry to give the impression that I know how to build 
>>> wheels, I don't, but I've heard swapping rims isn't too hard, so I was 
>>> going to give it a try if needed.
>>>
>>> JohnS
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:28:58 PM UTC-4 NYCbikeguy wrote:
>>>
 You seem to be savvy in wheel building. I have a disk brake dynamo in 
 gold currently laced to a 700c rim with machined sidewall for rim brakes 
 (so versatile!) Let me know if you're interested. I'll send pics.

 On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:01:53 PM UTC-4 mathiass...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Here's a new option:
>
>
> https://www.rosebikes.com/rose-dt-swiss-535shimano-dh-3d32-qr-26-discnon-disc-mtb-front-wheel-2721231?article_size=6853_shape=1
>
> you get the 19 % VAT deducted when shipping to the U.S. so the total 
> price will be between 125 and 130 Euro; a Euro being $1.08 at the moment. 
> I've had excellent luck with Rose products; they sold 700x35 mm Pasela 
> Tourguards last year for $17 a pop -- less than half the price stateside.
>
> cheers -mathias
>
> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 10:51:13 AM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> Looking to make my '82 Stumpy a year round errand runner, so dyno 
>> lights are the way to go.
>>
>> Requirements:
>> 26" rim brake for a wider tire. I plan to use RH 26" x 2.3" Rat Trap 
>> pass tires.
>> 100 mm spacing.
>> 6V, 3W power output for front and rear LED lights.
>> Good working order and can be serviced (no rusty axle nuts).
>>
>> Nice to have, but not required:
>> Silver color, but black is ok.
>> 32 spoke count (I have an extra rim, so if yours is worn out, I can 
>> switch it).
>> Looking to spend about $100 plus shipping to Allentown PA 18104.
>> Hub brand is not too important to me, the exception would be the 
>> Sanyo hub, I've read that it has noticeable drag.
>>
>> Please reply directly to me if you have one to unload.
>> Thank you,
>> JohnS
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB 26" Front Wheel with Generator Hub

[JohnS]

Even better! And they have a ton of stuff on sale, so I could add socks, 
gloves or a jersey to the box and won't impact the shipping.

JohnS

On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 4:42:39 PM UTC-4 mathiass...@gmail.com 
wrote:

>  >> so the total price will be between 125 and 130 Euro; a Euro being 
> $1.08 at the moment. 
>
> That's WITH shipping. 
>
> >> 124.95 € instead of €165.95
> >> Price incl. VAT plus €24.55 (for delivery to United States of America)
> >> Product code: 234412101"
>
> Lighting articles in general are a great deal over there, bc they're a 
> commodity. Most bikes in Germany are sold with lighting -- it's required on 
> bikes used on public roads, with some exemptions for lightweight road bikes 
> -- so it's a huge market, and that helps.
>
> cheers -m
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 4:08:12 PM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:
>
>> Thank you Mathias, that looks like a good deal, I'll have to check to see 
>> what the shipping would be. I may go that route if isn't too expensive and 
>> I don't hear from someone on the list.
>>
>> Hello NYCBikeGuy, sorry to give the impression that I know how to build 
>> wheels, I don't, but I've heard swapping rims isn't too hard, so I was 
>> going to give it a try if needed.
>>
>> JohnS
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:28:58 PM UTC-4 NYCbikeguy wrote:
>>
>>> You seem to be savvy in wheel building. I have a disk brake dynamo in 
>>> gold currently laced to a 700c rim with machined sidewall for rim brakes 
>>> (so versatile!) Let me know if you're interested. I'll send pics.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:01:53 PM UTC-4 mathiass...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Here's a new option:


 https://www.rosebikes.com/rose-dt-swiss-535shimano-dh-3d32-qr-26-discnon-disc-mtb-front-wheel-2721231?article_size=6853_shape=1

 you get the 19 % VAT deducted when shipping to the U.S. so the total 
 price will be between 125 and 130 Euro; a Euro being $1.08 at the moment. 
 I've had excellent luck with Rose products; they sold 700x35 mm Pasela 
 Tourguards last year for $17 a pop -- less than half the price stateside.

 cheers -mathias

 On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 10:51:13 AM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> Looking to make my '82 Stumpy a year round errand runner, so dyno 
> lights are the way to go.
>
> Requirements:
> 26" rim brake for a wider tire. I plan to use RH 26" x 2.3" Rat Trap 
> pass tires.
> 100 mm spacing.
> 6V, 3W power output for front and rear LED lights.
> Good working order and can be serviced (no rusty axle nuts).
>
> Nice to have, but not required:
> Silver color, but black is ok.
> 32 spoke count (I have an extra rim, so if yours is worn out, I can 
> switch it).
> Looking to spend about $100 plus shipping to Allentown PA 18104.
> Hub brand is not too important to me, the exception would be the Sanyo 
> hub, I've read that it has noticeable drag.
>
> Please reply directly to me if you have one to unload.
> Thank you,
> JohnS
>


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[RBW] Re: WTB 26" Front Wheel with Generator Hub

[Mathias Steiner]

 >> so the total price will be between 125 and 130 Euro; a Euro being $1.08 
at the moment. 

That's WITH shipping. 

>> 124.95 € instead of €165.95
>> Price incl. VAT plus €24.55 (for delivery to United States of America)
>> Product code: 234412101"

Lighting articles in general are a great deal over there, bc they're a 
commodity. Most bikes in Germany are sold with lighting -- it's required on 
bikes used on public roads, with some exemptions for lightweight road bikes 
-- so it's a huge market, and that helps.

cheers -m


On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 4:08:12 PM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:

> Thank you Mathias, that looks like a good deal, I'll have to check to see 
> what the shipping would be. I may go that route if isn't too expensive and 
> I don't hear from someone on the list.
>
> Hello NYCBikeGuy, sorry to give the impression that I know how to build 
> wheels, I don't, but I've heard swapping rims isn't too hard, so I was 
> going to give it a try if needed.
>
> JohnS
>
> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:28:58 PM UTC-4 NYCbikeguy wrote:
>
>> You seem to be savvy in wheel building. I have a disk brake dynamo in 
>> gold currently laced to a 700c rim with machined sidewall for rim brakes 
>> (so versatile!) Let me know if you're interested. I'll send pics.
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:01:53 PM UTC-4 mathiass...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Here's a new option:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.rosebikes.com/rose-dt-swiss-535shimano-dh-3d32-qr-26-discnon-disc-mtb-front-wheel-2721231?article_size=6853_shape=1
>>>
>>> you get the 19 % VAT deducted when shipping to the U.S. so the total 
>>> price will be between 125 and 130 Euro; a Euro being $1.08 at the moment. 
>>> I've had excellent luck with Rose products; they sold 700x35 mm Pasela 
>>> Tourguards last year for $17 a pop -- less than half the price stateside.
>>>
>>> cheers -mathias
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 10:51:13 AM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:
>>>
 Hello All,

 Looking to make my '82 Stumpy a year round errand runner, so dyno 
 lights are the way to go.

 Requirements:
 26" rim brake for a wider tire. I plan to use RH 26" x 2.3" Rat Trap 
 pass tires.
 100 mm spacing.
 6V, 3W power output for front and rear LED lights.
 Good working order and can be serviced (no rusty axle nuts).

 Nice to have, but not required:
 Silver color, but black is ok.
 32 spoke count (I have an extra rim, so if yours is worn out, I can 
 switch it).
 Looking to spend about $100 plus shipping to Allentown PA 18104.
 Hub brand is not too important to me, the exception would be the Sanyo 
 hub, I've read that it has noticeable drag.

 Please reply directly to me if you have one to unload.
 Thank you,
 JohnS

>>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB 26" Front Wheel with Generator Hub

[JohnS]

Thank you Mathias, that looks like a good deal, I'll have to check to see 
what the shipping would be. I may go that route if isn't too expensive and 
I don't hear from someone on the list.

Hello NYCBikeGuy, sorry to give the impression that I know how to build 
wheels, I don't, but I've heard swapping rims isn't too hard, so I was 
going to give it a try if needed.

JohnS

On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:28:58 PM UTC-4 NYCbikeguy wrote:

> You seem to be savvy in wheel building. I have a disk brake dynamo in gold 
> currently laced to a 700c rim with machined sidewall for rim brakes (so 
> versatile!) Let me know if you're interested. I'll send pics.
>
> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:01:53 PM UTC-4 mathiass...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Here's a new option:
>>
>>
>> https://www.rosebikes.com/rose-dt-swiss-535shimano-dh-3d32-qr-26-discnon-disc-mtb-front-wheel-2721231?article_size=6853_shape=1
>>
>> you get the 19 % VAT deducted when shipping to the U.S. so the total 
>> price will be between 125 and 130 Euro; a Euro being $1.08 at the moment. 
>> I've had excellent luck with Rose products; they sold 700x35 mm Pasela 
>> Tourguards last year for $17 a pop -- less than half the price stateside.
>>
>> cheers -mathias
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 10:51:13 AM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:
>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> Looking to make my '82 Stumpy a year round errand runner, so dyno lights 
>>> are the way to go.
>>>
>>> Requirements:
>>> 26" rim brake for a wider tire. I plan to use RH 26" x 2.3" Rat Trap 
>>> pass tires.
>>> 100 mm spacing.
>>> 6V, 3W power output for front and rear LED lights.
>>> Good working order and can be serviced (no rusty axle nuts).
>>>
>>> Nice to have, but not required:
>>> Silver color, but black is ok.
>>> 32 spoke count (I have an extra rim, so if yours is worn out, I can 
>>> switch it).
>>> Looking to spend about $100 plus shipping to Allentown PA 18104.
>>> Hub brand is not too important to me, the exception would be the Sanyo 
>>> hub, I've read that it has noticeable drag.
>>>
>>> Please reply directly to me if you have one to unload.
>>> Thank you,
>>> JohnS
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB 26" Front Wheel with Generator Hub

[NYCbikeguy]

You seem to be savvy in wheel building. I have a disk brake dynamo in gold 
currently laced to a 700c rim with machined sidewall for rim brakes (so 
versatile!) Let me know if you're interested. I'll send pics.

On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:01:53 PM UTC-4 mathiass...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Here's a new option:
>
>
> https://www.rosebikes.com/rose-dt-swiss-535shimano-dh-3d32-qr-26-discnon-disc-mtb-front-wheel-2721231?article_size=6853_shape=1
>
> you get the 19 % VAT deducted when shipping to the U.S. so the total price 
> will be between 125 and 130 Euro; a Euro being $1.08 at the moment. I've 
> had excellent luck with Rose products; they sold 700x35 mm Pasela 
> Tourguards last year for $17 a pop -- less than half the price stateside.
>
> cheers -mathias
>
> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 10:51:13 AM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> Looking to make my '82 Stumpy a year round errand runner, so dyno lights 
>> are the way to go.
>>
>> Requirements:
>> 26" rim brake for a wider tire. I plan to use RH 26" x 2.3" Rat Trap pass 
>> tires.
>> 100 mm spacing.
>> 6V, 3W power output for front and rear LED lights.
>> Good working order and can be serviced (no rusty axle nuts).
>>
>> Nice to have, but not required:
>> Silver color, but black is ok.
>> 32 spoke count (I have an extra rim, so if yours is worn out, I can 
>> switch it).
>> Looking to spend about $100 plus shipping to Allentown PA 18104.
>> Hub brand is not too important to me, the exception would be the Sanyo 
>> hub, I've read that it has noticeable drag.
>>
>> Please reply directly to me if you have one to unload.
>> Thank you,
>> JohnS
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB 26" Front Wheel with Generator Hub

[Mathias Steiner]

Here's a new option:

https://www.rosebikes.com/rose-dt-swiss-535shimano-dh-3d32-qr-26-discnon-disc-mtb-front-wheel-2721231?article_size=6853_shape=1

you get the 19 % VAT deducted when shipping to the U.S. so the total price 
will be between 125 and 130 Euro; a Euro being $1.08 at the moment. I've 
had excellent luck with Rose products; they sold 700x35 mm Pasela 
Tourguards last year for $17 a pop -- less than half the price stateside.

cheers -mathias

On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 10:51:13 AM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> Looking to make my '82 Stumpy a year round errand runner, so dyno lights 
> are the way to go.
>
> Requirements:
> 26" rim brake for a wider tire. I plan to use RH 26" x 2.3" Rat Trap pass 
> tires.
> 100 mm spacing.
> 6V, 3W power output for front and rear LED lights.
> Good working order and can be serviced (no rusty axle nuts).
>
> Nice to have, but not required:
> Silver color, but black is ok.
> 32 spoke count (I have an extra rim, so if yours is worn out, I can switch 
> it).
> Looking to spend about $100 plus shipping to Allentown PA 18104.
> Hub brand is not too important to me, the exception would be the Sanyo 
> hub, I've read that it has noticeable drag.
>
> Please reply directly to me if you have one to unload.
> Thank you,
> JohnS
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB Riv Canti/Vbrake Frame in 54/55/56

[Drew Fitchette]

Figure I’ll throw one last shout on this thread before I resign myself to 
the next batch of Sam’s or Appa’s coming later this spring/summer. 

Interested in any Riv suitable for a 835-840 PBH!

On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 2:32:25 PM UTC-4 Drew Fitchette wrote:

> Still on the hunt here in the event anyone's still got a frame/bike they 
> might want to thin out of their herd. 
>
> On Tuesday, March 12, 2024 at 10:20:05 AM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:
>
>> Bill suggested a Platy or other dropped top tube frame might be a better 
>> fit for your proportions. Depending on the handlebar you are looking to use 
>> and whether you are looking at the newer, expanded geometry frames, I agree.
>>
>> At 5'11" and 87cm PBH my proportions are more normalized than yours, but 
>> I've found a 60cm Platypus to give reach allowing for a Bosco/Tosco without 
>> worrying about standover. I wouldn't be able to clear an Appaloosa or 
>> Atlantis with the same reach, meaning I'd want a longer stem than the 120mm 
>> I have on the Platy or bar with less rearward extension.
>>
>> -Dave
>>
>> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 3:09:45 PM UTC-4 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Super helpful Keith! 
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 1:53:27 PM UTC-4 iamkeith wrote:
>>>
 On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 11:30:27 AM UTC-6 drewfi...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 My dimensions have been the bane of my cycling existence, Bill! 


 Bill's question and suggestion to clarify was pretty insightful then.  
 I suffer from the same handicap as you:  short legs/ long torso.  (6'2" w/ 
 87 pbh in my case.)  

 Knowing what I now know after many years of figuring it out,  I'd 
 suggest making sure you get the biggest frame you can possibly stand over. 
  
 Especially with the older models that tended to have proportionately 
 shorter top tubes.  They might still only be marginally long enough, but 
 the good news is that there was likely a size increment that worked pretty 
 well.  The later, expanded-sizing models don't come in as many increments, 
 but the good nees here is that if you DO happen to find one that maxes-out 
 your standover height  it is likely to be the most no-compromise, best-fit 
 bike you've ever owned.  Just don't settle until you find it.  

 Also, FWIW, the very first run of sam hillbournes (canti versions in 
 metalic orange or sagey green wihout creme headtubes and with gold decals, 
 I recall), which were among  if not THE first to use the expanded sizing, 
 had longer top tubes than later versions.  Im always on the lookout for 
 one 
 of those, even though i don't "need" one.




  

 I'm in Atlanta GA, but I travel all over the East coast for work. Also 
 have shipped plenty with bikeflights and happy to talk to folks from 
 wherever about what's available!

 On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 1:26:04 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

 Yeah you're a fair bit taller than me and I used to ride a 58cm 700c 
 original-run Atlantis.  That may be a tricky fit challenge.  I like your 
 inclusion of the Platy on your list.  No standover worries with a nice big 
 step through!  Last suggestion, if you mention your general location, you 
 may be able to arrange test-ride try-outs on a good candidate chassis from 
 a friendly RBWGroup reader.  Good luck with the search  

 BL

 On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 10:17:11 AM UTC-7 drewfi...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 Thanks for the thoughts Bill! 

 My saddle height is 74cm and the Atlantis I just got rid of is a 53cm. 
 I'm 6' with a 840 pbh, so pretty long torso and shorter legs. 

 Budget is fairly open depending on what the Frame is/how rare it might 
 be.


 On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:

 what size are you looking for?

 On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 11:55:25 AM UTC-5 drewfi...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 Hey Y'all,

 Recently sold my Atlantis frame that was a bit too small for me to move 
 up to something that fits better. Wondering if anyone here has an 
 Appaloosa, Atlantis, Plat, Sam that they're looking to move on. Also into 
 older models if the sizing works/they're in good shape(Hunq, Saluki, 
 Bombadil, etc.)

 Figure this might be a long shot, but better to make it known here 
 before starting to dig too deep into the corners of the internet.

 - Drew



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[RBW] Re: WTB: Bosco and JJJ Bars

[Paul Donald]

I have a set of the VO Granola Bars and a set of the chromo Bosco's at 52 
width. Both in silver. 

Was thinking about keeping the Bosco's for a Riv that I'm in glacial-paced 
negotiations about but i think I might prefer something with a lot less 
rise. Message me if you'd like and we can talk price.

I'm in LA so that might make shipping a little affordable.

On Monday, March 25, 2024 at 12:32:57 PM UTC-7 Collin A wrote:

> Still looking :)
>
> On Wednesday, March 20, 2024 at 9:44:06 PM UTC-7 Collin A wrote:
>
>> Heyo,
>>
>> Looking to do a little cockpit refinement before touring season kicks off 
>> and was hoping to get my hands on some well-loved (but not abused) 
>> handlebars to help me achieve that without breaking the bank. Specifically 
>> I am looking for:
>>
>>1. 52 cm heat treated Bosco bars
>>2. Sycip JJJ or VO Granola bars, either in silver would be ideal
>>
>> If you've got some gathering dust, let me know and lets chat :)
>>
>> Happy Belated Equinox!
>> Collin in Berkeley
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB 50cm Roadini

[藍俊彪]

Looks like that bike was already sold.

On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 9:32 AM Doug H.  wrote:

> Here is one on C-list albeit with a double chainring. It looks pristine:
> https://sandiego.craigslist.org/esd/bik/d/el-cajon-rivendell-radini-50cm/7719401355.html
> Doug
>
> On Tuesday, March 26, 2024 at 12:15:29 PM UTC-4 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> My wife enjoyed riding the Roadini so much that when my son (for whom it
>> was built) took it over she asked for her own. Since Rivendell no longer
>> has them I'm now in the market for a Roadini 50cm. Frame only unless you've
>> got it built up with 1x. (My wife never used the front derailleur on her
>> Cheviot so there's no point having more than 1 chainring)
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[RBW] Re: WTB 50cm Roadini

[Doug H.]

Here is one on C-list albeit with a double chainring. It looks 
pristine: 
https://sandiego.craigslist.org/esd/bik/d/el-cajon-rivendell-radini-50cm/7719401355.html
Doug

On Tuesday, March 26, 2024 at 12:15:29 PM UTC-4 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

> My wife enjoyed riding the Roadini so much that when my son (for whom it 
> was built) took it over she asked for her own. Since Rivendell no longer 
> has them I'm now in the market for a Roadini 50cm. Frame only unless you've 
> got it built up with 1x. (My wife never used the front derailleur on her 
> Cheviot so there's no point having more than 1 chainring)

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Bosco and JJJ Bars

[Collin A]

Still looking :)

On Wednesday, March 20, 2024 at 9:44:06 PM UTC-7 Collin A wrote:

> Heyo,
>
> Looking to do a little cockpit refinement before touring season kicks off 
> and was hoping to get my hands on some well-loved (but not abused) 
> handlebars to help me achieve that without breaking the bank. Specifically 
> I am looking for:
>
>1. 52 cm heat treated Bosco bars
>2. Sycip JJJ or VO Granola bars, either in silver would be ideal
>
> If you've got some gathering dust, let me know and lets chat :)
>
> Happy Belated Equinox!
> Collin in Berkeley
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Soma Condor 2 hanblebar I think 42/48 size

[eddietheflay]

Ending today these bars are on super sale at the Soma Fab Shop. $70 minus 
another 30%.

On Saturday, March 23, 2024 at 12:52:40 PM UTC-7 eddietheflay wrote:

> Anyone got one? I am curious. Email me at eddie dot flayer at att dot net.

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[RBW] Re: WTB Riv Canti/Vbrake Frame in 54/55/56

[Drew Fitchette]

Still on the hunt here in the event anyone's still got a frame/bike they 
might want to thin out of their herd. 

On Tuesday, March 12, 2024 at 10:20:05 AM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:

> Bill suggested a Platy or other dropped top tube frame might be a better 
> fit for your proportions. Depending on the handlebar you are looking to use 
> and whether you are looking at the newer, expanded geometry frames, I agree.
>
> At 5'11" and 87cm PBH my proportions are more normalized than yours, but 
> I've found a 60cm Platypus to give reach allowing for a Bosco/Tosco without 
> worrying about standover. I wouldn't be able to clear an Appaloosa or 
> Atlantis with the same reach, meaning I'd want a longer stem than the 120mm 
> I have on the Platy or bar with less rearward extension.
>
> -Dave
>
> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 3:09:45 PM UTC-4 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Super helpful Keith! 
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 1:53:27 PM UTC-4 iamkeith wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 11:30:27 AM UTC-6 drewfi...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> My dimensions have been the bane of my cycling existence, Bill! 
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill's question and suggestion to clarify was pretty insightful then.  I 
>>> suffer from the same handicap as you:  short legs/ long torso.  (6'2" w/ 87 
>>> pbh in my case.)  
>>>
>>> Knowing what I now know after many years of figuring it out,  I'd 
>>> suggest making sure you get the biggest frame you can possibly stand over.  
>>> Especially with the older models that tended to have proportionately 
>>> shorter top tubes.  They might still only be marginally long enough, but 
>>> the good news is that there was likely a size increment that worked pretty 
>>> well.  The later, expanded-sizing models don't come in as many increments, 
>>> but the good nees here is that if you DO happen to find one that maxes-out 
>>> your standover height  it is likely to be the most no-compromise, best-fit 
>>> bike you've ever owned.  Just don't settle until you find it.  
>>>
>>> Also, FWIW, the very first run of sam hillbournes (canti versions in 
>>> metalic orange or sagey green wihout creme headtubes and with gold decals, 
>>> I recall), which were among  if not THE first to use the expanded sizing, 
>>> had longer top tubes than later versions.  Im always on the lookout for one 
>>> of those, even though i don't "need" one.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> I'm in Atlanta GA, but I travel all over the East coast for work. Also 
>>> have shipped plenty with bikeflights and happy to talk to folks from 
>>> wherever about what's available!
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 1:26:04 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>> Yeah you're a fair bit taller than me and I used to ride a 58cm 700c 
>>> original-run Atlantis.  That may be a tricky fit challenge.  I like your 
>>> inclusion of the Platy on your list.  No standover worries with a nice big 
>>> step through!  Last suggestion, if you mention your general location, you 
>>> may be able to arrange test-ride try-outs on a good candidate chassis from 
>>> a friendly RBWGroup reader.  Good luck with the search  
>>>
>>> BL
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 10:17:11 AM UTC-7 drewfi...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for the thoughts Bill! 
>>>
>>> My saddle height is 74cm and the Atlantis I just got rid of is a 53cm. 
>>> I'm 6' with a 840 pbh, so pretty long torso and shorter legs. 
>>>
>>> Budget is fairly open depending on what the Frame is/how rare it might 
>>> be.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:
>>>
>>> what size are you looking for?
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 11:55:25 AM UTC-5 drewfi...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Y'all,
>>>
>>> Recently sold my Atlantis frame that was a bit too small for me to move 
>>> up to something that fits better. Wondering if anyone here has an 
>>> Appaloosa, Atlantis, Plat, Sam that they're looking to move on. Also into 
>>> older models if the sizing works/they're in good shape(Hunq, Saluki, 
>>> Bombadil, etc.)
>>>
>>> Figure this might be a long shot, but better to make it known here 
>>> before starting to dig too deep into the corners of the internet.
>>>
>>> - Drew
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB Riv Canti/Vbrake Frame in 54/55/56

[Drew Fitchette]

Super helpful Keith! 

Thanks!

On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 1:53:27 PM UTC-4 iamkeith wrote:

> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 11:30:27 AM UTC-6 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> My dimensions have been the bane of my cycling existence, Bill! 
>
>
> Bill's question and suggestion to clarify was pretty insightful then.  I 
> suffer from the same handicap as you:  short legs/ long torso.  (6'2" w/ 87 
> pbh in my case.)  
>
> Knowing what I now know after many years of figuring it out,  I'd suggest 
> making sure you get the biggest frame you can possibly stand over.  
> Especially with the older models that tended to have proportionately 
> shorter top tubes.  They might still only be marginally long enough, but 
> the good news is that there was likely a size increment that worked pretty 
> well.  The later, expanded-sizing models don't come in as many increments, 
> but the good nees here is that if you DO happen to find one that maxes-out 
> your standover height  it is likely to be the most no-compromise, best-fit 
> bike you've ever owned.  Just don't settle until you find it.  
>
> Also, FWIW, the very first run of sam hillbournes (canti versions in 
> metalic orange or sagey green wihout creme headtubes and with gold decals, 
> I recall), which were among  if not THE first to use the expanded sizing, 
> had longer top tubes than later versions.  Im always on the lookout for one 
> of those, even though i don't "need" one.
>
>
>
>
>  
>
> I'm in Atlanta GA, but I travel all over the East coast for work. Also 
> have shipped plenty with bikeflights and happy to talk to folks from 
> wherever about what's available!
>
> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 1:26:04 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Yeah you're a fair bit taller than me and I used to ride a 58cm 700c 
> original-run Atlantis.  That may be a tricky fit challenge.  I like your 
> inclusion of the Platy on your list.  No standover worries with a nice big 
> step through!  Last suggestion, if you mention your general location, you 
> may be able to arrange test-ride try-outs on a good candidate chassis from 
> a friendly RBWGroup reader.  Good luck with the search  
>
> BL
>
> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 10:17:11 AM UTC-7 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Thanks for the thoughts Bill! 
>
> My saddle height is 74cm and the Atlantis I just got rid of is a 53cm. I'm 
> 6' with a 840 pbh, so pretty long torso and shorter legs. 
>
> Budget is fairly open depending on what the Frame is/how rare it might be.
>
>
> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:
>
> what size are you looking for?
>
> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 11:55:25 AM UTC-5 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hey Y'all,
>
> Recently sold my Atlantis frame that was a bit too small for me to move up 
> to something that fits better. Wondering if anyone here has an Appaloosa, 
> Atlantis, Plat, Sam that they're looking to move on. Also into older models 
> if the sizing works/they're in good shape(Hunq, Saluki, Bombadil, etc.)
>
> Figure this might be a long shot, but better to make it known here before 
> starting to dig too deep into the corners of the internet.
>
> - Drew
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB Riv Canti/Vbrake Frame in 54/55/56

[Drew Fitchette]

Hehe, knew that comment was coming the minute I posted Bill!

Yeah, makes sense! Would love to test ride a few models In the greater
Atlanta area if folks have stuff from 54cm and up.

The bikeflights/traveling still Applies in the case that someone has
something interesting to sell.

- Drew


On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 14:04 Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> "I'm in Atlanta GA, but I travel all over the East coast for work. Also
> have shipped plenty with bikeflights and happy to talk to folks from
> wherever about what's available!"
>
> I think you missed the tactical objective of my suggestion:  If somebody
> near you has a bike that may be a good candidate, they may let you test
> ride it, even though it's not for sale.  If somebody in Atlanta lets you
> ride their 60cm Platypus, then you might conclude: "hot DAMN!  That's
> exactly what I need" and your search is now laser focused and confident
> that it will succeed.
>
> Nobody is going to ship you a bike to test ride :)
>
> BL
> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 10:30:27 AM UTC-7 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> My dimensions have been the bane of my cycling existence, Bill!
>>
>> I'm in Atlanta GA, but I travel all over the East coast for work. Also
>> have shipped plenty with bikeflights and happy to talk to folks from
>> wherever about what's available!
>>
>> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 1:26:04 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah you're a fair bit taller than me and I used to ride a 58cm 700c
>>> original-run Atlantis.  That may be a tricky fit challenge.  I like your
>>> inclusion of the Platy on your list.  No standover worries with a nice big
>>> step through!  Last suggestion, if you mention your general location, you
>>> may be able to arrange test-ride try-outs on a good candidate chassis from
>>> a friendly RBWGroup reader.  Good luck with the search
>>>
>>> BL
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 10:17:11 AM UTC-7 drewfi...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks for the thoughts Bill!

 My saddle height is 74cm and the Atlantis I just got rid of is a 53cm.
 I'm 6' with a 840 pbh, so pretty long torso and shorter legs.

 Budget is fairly open depending on what the Frame is/how rare it might
 be.


 On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:

> what size are you looking for?
>
> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 11:55:25 AM UTC-5 drewfi...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Hey Y'all,
>>
>> Recently sold my Atlantis frame that was a bit too small for me to
>> move up to something that fits better. Wondering if anyone here has an
>> Appaloosa, Atlantis, Plat, Sam that they're looking to move on. Also into
>> older models if the sizing works/they're in good shape(Hunq, Saluki,
>> Bombadil, etc.)
>>
>> Figure this might be a long shot, but better to make it known here
>> before starting to dig too deep into the corners of the internet.
>>
>> - Drew
>>
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[RBW] Re: WTB Riv Canti/Vbrake Frame in 54/55/56

[Bill Lindsay]

"I'm in Atlanta GA, but I travel all over the East coast for work. Also 
have shipped plenty with bikeflights and happy to talk to folks from 
wherever about what's available!"

I think you missed the tactical objective of my suggestion:  If somebody 
near you has a bike that may be a good candidate, they may let you test 
ride it, even though it's not for sale.  If somebody in Atlanta lets you 
ride their 60cm Platypus, then you might conclude: "hot DAMN!  That's 
exactly what I need" and your search is now laser focused and confident 
that it will succeed.  

Nobody is going to ship you a bike to test ride :)

BL
On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 10:30:27 AM UTC-7 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:

> My dimensions have been the bane of my cycling existence, Bill! 
>
> I'm in Atlanta GA, but I travel all over the East coast for work. Also 
> have shipped plenty with bikeflights and happy to talk to folks from 
> wherever about what's available!
>
> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 1:26:04 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Yeah you're a fair bit taller than me and I used to ride a 58cm 700c 
>> original-run Atlantis.  That may be a tricky fit challenge.  I like your 
>> inclusion of the Platy on your list.  No standover worries with a nice big 
>> step through!  Last suggestion, if you mention your general location, you 
>> may be able to arrange test-ride try-outs on a good candidate chassis from 
>> a friendly RBWGroup reader.  Good luck with the search  
>>
>> BL
>>
>> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 10:17:11 AM UTC-7 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the thoughts Bill! 
>>>
>>> My saddle height is 74cm and the Atlantis I just got rid of is a 53cm. 
>>> I'm 6' with a 840 pbh, so pretty long torso and shorter legs. 
>>>
>>> Budget is fairly open depending on what the Frame is/how rare it might 
>>> be.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:
>>>
 what size are you looking for?

 On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 11:55:25 AM UTC-5 drewfi...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Hey Y'all,
>
> Recently sold my Atlantis frame that was a bit too small for me to 
> move up to something that fits better. Wondering if anyone here has an 
> Appaloosa, Atlantis, Plat, Sam that they're looking to move on. Also into 
> older models if the sizing works/they're in good shape(Hunq, Saluki, 
> Bombadil, etc.)
>
> Figure this might be a long shot, but better to make it known here 
> before starting to dig too deep into the corners of the internet.
>
> - Drew
>


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[RBW] Re: WTB Riv Canti/Vbrake Frame in 54/55/56

[iamkeith]

On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 11:30:27 AM UTC-6 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:

My dimensions have been the bane of my cycling existence, Bill! 


Bill's question and suggestion to clarify was pretty insightful then.  I 
suffer from the same handicap as you:  short legs/ long torso.  (6'2" w/ 87 
pbh in my case.)  

Knowing what I now know after many years of figuring it out,  I'd suggest 
making sure you get the biggest frame you can possibly stand over.  
Especially with the older models that tended to have proportionately 
shorter top tubes.  They might still only be marginally long enough, but 
the good news is that there was likely a size increment that worked pretty 
well.  The later, expanded-sizing models don't come in as many increments, 
but the good nees here is that if you DO happen to find one that maxes-out 
your standover height  it is likely to be the most no-compromise, best-fit 
bike you've ever owned.  Just don't settle until you find it.  

Also, FWIW, the very first run of sam hillbournes (canti versions in 
metalic orange or sagey green wihout creme headtubes and with gold decals, 
I recall), which were among  if not THE first to use the expanded sizing, 
had longer top tubes than later versions.  Im always on the lookout for one 
of those, even though i don't "need" one.




 

I'm in Atlanta GA, but I travel all over the East coast for work. Also have 
shipped plenty with bikeflights and happy to talk to folks from wherever 
about what's available!

On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 1:26:04 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

Yeah you're a fair bit taller than me and I used to ride a 58cm 700c 
original-run Atlantis.  That may be a tricky fit challenge.  I like your 
inclusion of the Platy on your list.  No standover worries with a nice big 
step through!  Last suggestion, if you mention your general location, you 
may be able to arrange test-ride try-outs on a good candidate chassis from 
a friendly RBWGroup reader.  Good luck with the search  

BL

On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 10:17:11 AM UTC-7 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks for the thoughts Bill! 

My saddle height is 74cm and the Atlantis I just got rid of is a 53cm. I'm 
6' with a 840 pbh, so pretty long torso and shorter legs. 

Budget is fairly open depending on what the Frame is/how rare it might be.


On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:

what size are you looking for?

On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 11:55:25 AM UTC-5 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:

Hey Y'all,

Recently sold my Atlantis frame that was a bit too small for me to move up 
to something that fits better. Wondering if anyone here has an Appaloosa, 
Atlantis, Plat, Sam that they're looking to move on. Also into older models 
if the sizing works/they're in good shape(Hunq, Saluki, Bombadil, etc.)

Figure this might be a long shot, but better to make it known here before 
starting to dig too deep into the corners of the internet.

- Drew

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[RBW] Re: WTB Riv Canti/Vbrake Frame in 54/55/56

[Drew Fitchette]

My dimensions have been the bane of my cycling existence, Bill! 

I'm in Atlanta GA, but I travel all over the East coast for work. Also have 
shipped plenty with bikeflights and happy to talk to folks from wherever 
about what's available!

On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 1:26:04 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Yeah you're a fair bit taller than me and I used to ride a 58cm 700c 
> original-run Atlantis.  That may be a tricky fit challenge.  I like your 
> inclusion of the Platy on your list.  No standover worries with a nice big 
> step through!  Last suggestion, if you mention your general location, you 
> may be able to arrange test-ride try-outs on a good candidate chassis from 
> a friendly RBWGroup reader.  Good luck with the search  
>
> BL
>
> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 10:17:11 AM UTC-7 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the thoughts Bill! 
>>
>> My saddle height is 74cm and the Atlantis I just got rid of is a 53cm. 
>> I'm 6' with a 840 pbh, so pretty long torso and shorter legs. 
>>
>> Budget is fairly open depending on what the Frame is/how rare it might be.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> what size are you looking for?
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 11:55:25 AM UTC-5 drewfi...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hey Y'all,

 Recently sold my Atlantis frame that was a bit too small for me to move 
 up to something that fits better. Wondering if anyone here has an 
 Appaloosa, Atlantis, Plat, Sam that they're looking to move on. Also into 
 older models if the sizing works/they're in good shape(Hunq, Saluki, 
 Bombadil, etc.)

 Figure this might be a long shot, but better to make it known here 
 before starting to dig too deep into the corners of the internet.

 - Drew

>>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB Riv Canti/Vbrake Frame in 54/55/56

[Bill Lindsay]

Yeah you're a fair bit taller than me and I used to ride a 58cm 700c 
original-run Atlantis.  That may be a tricky fit challenge.  I like your 
inclusion of the Platy on your list.  No standover worries with a nice big 
step through!  Last suggestion, if you mention your general location, you 
may be able to arrange test-ride try-outs on a good candidate chassis from 
a friendly RBWGroup reader.  Good luck with the search  

BL

On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 10:17:11 AM UTC-7 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks for the thoughts Bill! 
>
> My saddle height is 74cm and the Atlantis I just got rid of is a 53cm. I'm 
> 6' with a 840 pbh, so pretty long torso and shorter legs. 
>
> Budget is fairly open depending on what the Frame is/how rare it might be.
>
>
> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:
>
>> what size are you looking for?
>>
>> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 11:55:25 AM UTC-5 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Y'all,
>>>
>>> Recently sold my Atlantis frame that was a bit too small for me to move 
>>> up to something that fits better. Wondering if anyone here has an 
>>> Appaloosa, Atlantis, Plat, Sam that they're looking to move on. Also into 
>>> older models if the sizing works/they're in good shape(Hunq, Saluki, 
>>> Bombadil, etc.)
>>>
>>> Figure this might be a long shot, but better to make it known here 
>>> before starting to dig too deep into the corners of the internet.
>>>
>>> - Drew
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB Riv Canti/Vbrake Frame in 54/55/56

[Drew Fitchette]

Thanks for the thoughts Bill! 

My saddle height is 74cm and the Atlantis I just got rid of is a 53cm. I'm 
6' with a 840 pbh, so pretty long torso and shorter legs. 

Budget is fairly open depending on what the Frame is/how rare it might be.


On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:

> what size are you looking for?
>
> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 11:55:25 AM UTC-5 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hey Y'all,
>>
>> Recently sold my Atlantis frame that was a bit too small for me to move 
>> up to something that fits better. Wondering if anyone here has an 
>> Appaloosa, Atlantis, Plat, Sam that they're looking to move on. Also into 
>> older models if the sizing works/they're in good shape(Hunq, Saluki, 
>> Bombadil, etc.)
>>
>> Figure this might be a long shot, but better to make it known here before 
>> starting to dig too deep into the corners of the internet.
>>
>> - Drew
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB Riv Canti/Vbrake Frame in 54/55/56

[Ryan]

oops never mind...sorry; its in your post header

On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 12:10:51 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:

> what size are you looking for?
>
> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 11:55:25 AM UTC-5 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hey Y'all,
>>
>> Recently sold my Atlantis frame that was a bit too small for me to move 
>> up to something that fits better. Wondering if anyone here has an 
>> Appaloosa, Atlantis, Plat, Sam that they're looking to move on. Also into 
>> older models if the sizing works/they're in good shape(Hunq, Saluki, 
>> Bombadil, etc.)
>>
>> Figure this might be a long shot, but better to make it known here before 
>> starting to dig too deep into the corners of the internet.
>>
>> - Drew
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB Riv Canti/Vbrake Frame in 54/55/56

[Ryan]

what size are you looking for?

On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 11:55:25 AM UTC-5 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey Y'all,
>
> Recently sold my Atlantis frame that was a bit too small for me to move up 
> to something that fits better. Wondering if anyone here has an Appaloosa, 
> Atlantis, Plat, Sam that they're looking to move on. Also into older models 
> if the sizing works/they're in good shape(Hunq, Saluki, Bombadil, etc.)
>
> Figure this might be a long shot, but better to make it known here before 
> starting to dig too deep into the corners of the internet.
>
> - Drew
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB Riv Canti/Vbrake Frame in 54/55/56

[Bill Lindsay]

"Figure this might be a long shot, but better to make it known here before 
starting to dig too deep into the corners of the internet."

It's a great move to post here.  Good luck with the search.  Some of the 
models you mention are "expanded" with more of a TT slope vs others like 
the Saluki which is flatter in TT slope, so the numbers associated with the 
sizes are kind of different.  Maybe to normalize it all, you should list 
your Saddle Height, and/or the size Atlantis you got rid of.  Like, I'm a 
75.5cm Saddle Height and I'd use a 54 Hunqapillar and maybe a 58 or 60 
Saluki.  Finally, I've had "shaking bikes loose" that weren't previously 
"for sale" by stating my budget.  Just a suggestion.  Many people think 
it's crazy to actually say what you are willing to spend.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 9:55:25 AM UTC-7 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey Y'all,
>
> Recently sold my Atlantis frame that was a bit too small for me to move up 
> to something that fits better. Wondering if anyone here has an Appaloosa, 
> Atlantis, Plat, Sam that they're looking to move on. Also into older models 
> if the sizing works/they're in good shape(Hunq, Saluki, Bombadil, etc.)
>
> Figure this might be a long shot, but better to make it known here before 
> starting to dig too deep into the corners of the internet.
>
> - Drew
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB/WTT: 60cm Cheviot (would consider Platty or 59cm Clem) in NC

[Kim H.]

@Leah and Joe,

Thank-you for your praise of discovery.

Kim Hetzel. 

On Wednesday, March 6, 2024 at 5:05:45 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Nice sleuthing, Kim! Those are indeed rare frames these days, I love the 
> original orange and haven't seen one in a while. 
>
> On Wednesday, March 6, 2024 at 4:46:51 AM UTC-8 James wrote:
>
>> I've messaged them both!  Thanks ya'll!!
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 6, 2024 at 6:56:19 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh wow, Kim, great finds! Pam Murray had me on the case (your RivSisters 
>>> got you, my friends!) and I could not find a single Cheviot for James. I 
>>> don’t ever search FB Marketplace - I need to start! James, just hurry and 
>>> snatch one of those; they are so dang rare!
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 6, 2024 at 12:24:05 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 In Seattle, Washington -

 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/423877213473715/?ref=search_code=null_story_type=post=browse_serp%3A4c497921-5d88-4b84-be40-c13146953aa4

 Kim Hetzel
 just south of Seattle. 

 On Tuesday, March 5, 2024 at 4:50:42 PM UTC-8 Josh C wrote:

> This may be something to consider. Seems like a nice bike at a good 
> price. 
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/381948061057358/?ref=search_code=null_story_type=post=browse_serp%3A3c57205e-196a-4825-8a0c-2a78f9e602e0
>
> On Tuesday, March 5, 2024 at 7:36:05 PM UTC-5 James wrote:
>
>> I am going to bump this one time.  I have had some offers but should 
>> have clarified, really partial to the blue or orange Cheviot color ways.
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 27, 2024 at 3:53:00 PM UTC-5 James wrote:
>>
>>> I am looking to but a 60cm Cheviot, ideally just the F/BB/HS/F, and 
>>> ideally locally, in Western NC.  If it's not local, so be it.  If 
>>> someone 
>>> is interested in a trade, then I have a 2018 62cm Appaloosa for your 
>>> consideration.  If not, then I've got cash.  Please let me know if you 
>>> have 
>>> this bike and are willing/able to part with it.
>>>
>>> I would *consider* a 60cm Platypus or a 59cm Clem L
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB/WTT: 60cm Cheviot (would consider Platty or 59cm Clem) in NC

[Joe Bernard]

Nice sleuthing, Kim! Those are indeed rare frames these days, I love the 
original orange and haven't seen one in a while. 

On Wednesday, March 6, 2024 at 4:46:51 AM UTC-8 James wrote:

> I've messaged them both!  Thanks ya'll!!
>
> On Wednesday, March 6, 2024 at 6:56:19 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Oh wow, Kim, great finds! Pam Murray had me on the case (your RivSisters 
>> got you, my friends!) and I could not find a single Cheviot for James. I 
>> don’t ever search FB Marketplace - I need to start! James, just hurry and 
>> snatch one of those; they are so dang rare!
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 6, 2024 at 12:24:05 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> In Seattle, Washington -
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/423877213473715/?ref=search_code=null_story_type=post=browse_serp%3A4c497921-5d88-4b84-be40-c13146953aa4
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel
>>> just south of Seattle. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 5, 2024 at 4:50:42 PM UTC-8 Josh C wrote:
>>>
 This may be something to consider. Seems like a nice bike at a good 
 price. 


 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/381948061057358/?ref=search_code=null_story_type=post=browse_serp%3A3c57205e-196a-4825-8a0c-2a78f9e602e0

 On Tuesday, March 5, 2024 at 7:36:05 PM UTC-5 James wrote:

> I am going to bump this one time.  I have had some offers but should 
> have clarified, really partial to the blue or orange Cheviot color ways.
>
> On Tuesday, February 27, 2024 at 3:53:00 PM UTC-5 James wrote:
>
>> I am looking to but a 60cm Cheviot, ideally just the F/BB/HS/F, and 
>> ideally locally, in Western NC.  If it's not local, so be it.  If 
>> someone 
>> is interested in a trade, then I have a 2018 62cm Appaloosa for your 
>> consideration.  If not, then I've got cash.  Please let me know if you 
>> have 
>> this bike and are willing/able to part with it.
>>
>> I would *consider* a 60cm Platypus or a 59cm Clem L
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB/WTT: 60cm Cheviot (would consider Platty or 59cm Clem) in NC

[James]

I've messaged them both!  Thanks ya'll!!

On Wednesday, March 6, 2024 at 6:56:19 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Oh wow, Kim, great finds! Pam Murray had me on the case (your RivSisters 
> got you, my friends!) and I could not find a single Cheviot for James. I 
> don’t ever search FB Marketplace - I need to start! James, just hurry and 
> snatch one of those; they are so dang rare!
>
> On Wednesday, March 6, 2024 at 12:24:05 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> In Seattle, Washington -
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/423877213473715/?ref=search_code=null_story_type=post=browse_serp%3A4c497921-5d88-4b84-be40-c13146953aa4
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> just south of Seattle. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 5, 2024 at 4:50:42 PM UTC-8 Josh C wrote:
>>
>>> This may be something to consider. Seems like a nice bike at a good 
>>> price. 
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/381948061057358/?ref=search_code=null_story_type=post=browse_serp%3A3c57205e-196a-4825-8a0c-2a78f9e602e0
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 5, 2024 at 7:36:05 PM UTC-5 James wrote:
>>>
 I am going to bump this one time.  I have had some offers but should 
 have clarified, really partial to the blue or orange Cheviot color ways.

 On Tuesday, February 27, 2024 at 3:53:00 PM UTC-5 James wrote:

> I am looking to but a 60cm Cheviot, ideally just the F/BB/HS/F, and 
> ideally locally, in Western NC.  If it's not local, so be it.  If someone 
> is interested in a trade, then I have a 2018 62cm Appaloosa for your 
> consideration.  If not, then I've got cash.  Please let me know if you 
> have 
> this bike and are willing/able to part with it.
>
> I would *consider* a 60cm Platypus or a 59cm Clem L
>


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[RBW] Re: WTB/WTT: 60cm Cheviot (would consider Platty or 59cm Clem) in NC

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Oh wow, Kim, great finds! Pam Murray had me on the case (your RivSisters 
got you, my friends!) and I could not find a single Cheviot for James. I 
don’t ever search FB Marketplace - I need to start! James, just hurry and 
snatch one of those; they are so dang rare!

On Wednesday, March 6, 2024 at 12:24:05 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> In Seattle, Washington -
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/423877213473715/?ref=search_code=null_story_type=post=browse_serp%3A4c497921-5d88-4b84-be40-c13146953aa4
>
> Kim Hetzel
> just south of Seattle. 
>
> On Tuesday, March 5, 2024 at 4:50:42 PM UTC-8 Josh C wrote:
>
>> This may be something to consider. Seems like a nice bike at a good 
>> price. 
>>
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/381948061057358/?ref=search_code=null_story_type=post=browse_serp%3A3c57205e-196a-4825-8a0c-2a78f9e602e0
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 5, 2024 at 7:36:05 PM UTC-5 James wrote:
>>
>>> I am going to bump this one time.  I have had some offers but should 
>>> have clarified, really partial to the blue or orange Cheviot color ways.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 27, 2024 at 3:53:00 PM UTC-5 James wrote:
>>>
 I am looking to but a 60cm Cheviot, ideally just the F/BB/HS/F, and 
 ideally locally, in Western NC.  If it's not local, so be it.  If someone 
 is interested in a trade, then I have a 2018 62cm Appaloosa for your 
 consideration.  If not, then I've got cash.  Please let me know if you 
 have 
 this bike and are willing/able to part with it.

 I would *consider* a 60cm Platypus or a 59cm Clem L

>>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB/WTT: 60cm Cheviot (would consider Platty or 59cm Clem) in NC

[Kim H.]

In Seattle, Washington -
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/423877213473715/?ref=search_code=null_story_type=post=browse_serp%3A4c497921-5d88-4b84-be40-c13146953aa4

Kim Hetzel
just south of Seattle. 

On Tuesday, March 5, 2024 at 4:50:42 PM UTC-8 Josh C wrote:

> This may be something to consider. Seems like a nice bike at a good price. 
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/381948061057358/?ref=search_code=null_story_type=post=browse_serp%3A3c57205e-196a-4825-8a0c-2a78f9e602e0
>
> On Tuesday, March 5, 2024 at 7:36:05 PM UTC-5 James wrote:
>
>> I am going to bump this one time.  I have had some offers but should have 
>> clarified, really partial to the blue or orange Cheviot color ways.
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 27, 2024 at 3:53:00 PM UTC-5 James wrote:
>>
>>> I am looking to but a 60cm Cheviot, ideally just the F/BB/HS/F, and 
>>> ideally locally, in Western NC.  If it's not local, so be it.  If someone 
>>> is interested in a trade, then I have a 2018 62cm Appaloosa for your 
>>> consideration.  If not, then I've got cash.  Please let me know if you have 
>>> this bike and are willing/able to part with it.
>>>
>>> I would *consider* a 60cm Platypus or a 59cm Clem L
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB- Nitto 32r Rack

[Nathan Mattia]

Still Looking!!

On Friday, February 9, 2024 at 2:53:12 PM UTC-6 Nathan Mattia wrote:

> I had the bigger 33r on my Sam Hillborne for a couple of years before 
> realizing a 650b bike is probably better suited to the 32r.
>
> Anyone have one of these for sale?
>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB/WTT: 60cm Cheviot (would consider Platty or 59cm Clem) in NC

[Josh C]

This may be something to consider. Seems like a nice bike at a good price. 

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/381948061057358/?ref=search_code=null_story_type=post=browse_serp%3A3c57205e-196a-4825-8a0c-2a78f9e602e0

On Tuesday, March 5, 2024 at 7:36:05 PM UTC-5 James wrote:

> I am going to bump this one time.  I have had some offers but should have 
> clarified, really partial to the blue or orange Cheviot color ways.
>
> On Tuesday, February 27, 2024 at 3:53:00 PM UTC-5 James wrote:
>
>> I am looking to but a 60cm Cheviot, ideally just the F/BB/HS/F, and 
>> ideally locally, in Western NC.  If it's not local, so be it.  If someone 
>> is interested in a trade, then I have a 2018 62cm Appaloosa for your 
>> consideration.  If not, then I've got cash.  Please let me know if you have 
>> this bike and are willing/able to part with it.
>>
>> I would *consider* a 60cm Platypus or a 59cm Clem L
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB/WTT: 60cm Cheviot (would consider Platty or 59cm Clem) in NC

[James]

I am going to bump this one time.  I have had some offers but should have 
clarified, really partial to the blue or orange Cheviot color ways.

On Tuesday, February 27, 2024 at 3:53:00 PM UTC-5 James wrote:

> I am looking to but a 60cm Cheviot, ideally just the F/BB/HS/F, and 
> ideally locally, in Western NC.  If it's not local, so be it.  If someone 
> is interested in a trade, then I have a 2018 62cm Appaloosa for your 
> consideration.  If not, then I've got cash.  Please let me know if you have 
> this bike and are willing/able to part with it.
>
> I would *consider* a 60cm Platypus or a 59cm Clem L
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Large 33R Rear Rack

[Luke Hendrickson]

See 
here: 
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bop/d/san-francisco-surly-cross-check/7722332812.html

On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 3:47:00 PM UTC-8 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Anyone have one, preferably in the San Francisco Bay Area?
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Saddlebag Grip R50

[Nick Payne]

Alex's Cycle in Japan have them: 
https://alexscycle.com/products/nitto-r-50-saddle-bag-supporter-1.

NIck Payne

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Saddlebag Grip R50

[Michael Ullmer]

Sorry to hear it's been discontinued! A list member came through and I'm 
all set. I see that Ben's Cycle is all sold out now too. Such a bummer for 
a well functioning piece by Nitto. There doesn't seem to be any equivalent 
either. One of the nice things about this too is that it can lower the 
attachment point for the bag (which I need on my Ram).

On Wednesday, February 28, 2024 at 2:20:14 PM UTC-6 Dorothy C wrote:

> Will stated recently that the R50 is discontinued, so grab one while you 
> can if you want one. 
>
> On Tuesday, February 27, 2024 at 4:39:31 PM UTC-8 kiziria...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Ben's got it at a very good price. 
>> https://www.benscycle.com/nitto-r50-quick-release-saddle-bag-supporter-bag_part_nitto__870-179-11/p
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 27, 2024 at 9:48:32 AM UTC-8 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>
>>> Once upon a time I had a couple of these but swung towards carring my 
>>> cargo upfront on my bikes for a few years. Now I'm back on the rear 
>>> saddlebag train and want to grab one of these for my Ram. Riv is out of 
>>> stock...
>>>
>>> Anyone holding?
>>>
>>> Mike in Minneapolis
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Saddlebag Grip R50

[Dorothy C]

Will stated recently that the R50 is discontinued, so grab one while you 
can if you want one. 

On Tuesday, February 27, 2024 at 4:39:31 PM UTC-8 kiziria...@gmail.com 
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> Ben's got it at a very good price. 
> https://www.benscycle.com/nitto-r50-quick-release-saddle-bag-supporter-bag_part_nitto__870-179-11/p
>
> On Tuesday, February 27, 2024 at 9:48:32 AM UTC-8 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> Once upon a time I had a couple of these but swung towards carring my 
>> cargo upfront on my bikes for a few years. Now I'm back on the rear 
>> saddlebag train and want to grab one of these for my Ram. Riv is out of 
>> stock...
>>
>> Anyone holding?
>>
>> Mike in Minneapolis
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Saddlebag Grip R50

[Armand Kizirian]

Ben's got it at a very good price. 
https://www.benscycle.com/nitto-r50-quick-release-saddle-bag-supporter-bag_part_nitto__870-179-11/p

On Tuesday, February 27, 2024 at 9:48:32 AM UTC-8 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Once upon a time I had a couple of these but swung towards carring my 
> cargo upfront on my bikes for a few years. Now I'm back on the rear 
> saddlebag train and want to grab one of these for my Ram. Riv is out of 
> stock...
>
> Anyone holding?
>
> Mike in Minneapolis
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Campeur Front Rack

[Matthew Rebmann]

Nitto's stuff is top notch but it's not *quite* what I'm looking for. That 
all being said, if I just can't find what I'm looking for then I'll likely 
end up buying the Nitto rack. I'm just stubborn and figure I might get 
lucky if I'm persistent lol. 

I particularly like the integrated decaleur the VO Campeur rack has, along 
with the mirror finish (rather than Nitto's satin nickel) and it'll match 
nicely either VO's Campeur rear rack which I intend on buying soon. I'm 
honestly pretty surprised they discontinued it. 

On Monday, February 26, 2024 at 5:04:48 PM UTC-5 DTL wrote:

> That one on Alex Cycles even has the detachable low riders, good find!
>
> On Tuesday, February 27, 2024 at 8:54:12 AM UTC+11 Nikko in Oakland wrote:
>
>> They were out of stock for a very long time, but if you want to pay full 
>> retail... 
>>
>> https://alexscycle.com/products/nitto-front-camping-carrier-for-randonneur-1
>>
>> On Monday, February 26, 2024 at 11:30:40 AM UTC-8 matthew...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I lied: Still trying lol. My build is nearly complete and this rack 
>>> would be the cherry on top
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 4:20:19 PM UTC-5 Matthew Rebmann wrote:
>>>
 One last try- including a picture for clarity~

 Looking for the discontinued Velo Orange Campeur Front Rack, *not the 
 Nitto Campee Front Rack* which has a different finish and lacks the 
 integrated decaleur.


 [image: Velo Orange Campeur Front Rack - Special Order only - 
 BMTBonline.com]

 On Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 11:44:49 AM UTC-5 Matthew Rebmann wrote:

> (Bump) Still on the look out for the Campeur Front Rack
>
> On Friday, December 8, 2023 at 11:28:03 AM UTC-5 Matthew Rebmann wrote:
>
>> I'm working on a Velo Orange Polyvalent Touring build and the 
>> discontinued front rack is exactly what I'm looking for. I'd go the 
>> Nitto 
>> Campee but I'm aiming for a matching set and I prefer the aesthetics of 
>> VO's racks for this build (Nitto also carries a hefty price, even though 
>> it's worth it!). Any help would be greatly appreciated :)
>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Campeur Front Rack

[DTL]

That one on Alex Cycles even has the detachable low riders, good find!

On Tuesday, February 27, 2024 at 8:54:12 AM UTC+11 Nikko in Oakland wrote:

> They were out of stock for a very long time, but if you want to pay full 
> retail... 
>
> https://alexscycle.com/products/nitto-front-camping-carrier-for-randonneur-1
>
> On Monday, February 26, 2024 at 11:30:40 AM UTC-8 matthew...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I lied: Still trying lol. My build is nearly complete and this rack would 
>> be the cherry on top
>>
>> On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 4:20:19 PM UTC-5 Matthew Rebmann wrote:
>>
>>> One last try- including a picture for clarity~
>>>
>>> Looking for the discontinued Velo Orange Campeur Front Rack, *not the 
>>> Nitto Campee Front Rack* which has a different finish and lacks the 
>>> integrated decaleur.
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: Velo Orange Campeur Front Rack - Special Order only - 
>>> BMTBonline.com]
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 11:44:49 AM UTC-5 Matthew Rebmann wrote:
>>>
 (Bump) Still on the look out for the Campeur Front Rack

 On Friday, December 8, 2023 at 11:28:03 AM UTC-5 Matthew Rebmann wrote:

> I'm working on a Velo Orange Polyvalent Touring build and the 
> discontinued front rack is exactly what I'm looking for. I'd go the Nitto 
> Campee but I'm aiming for a matching set and I prefer the aesthetics of 
> VO's racks for this build (Nitto also carries a hefty price, even though 
> it's worth it!). Any help would be greatly appreciated :)



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[RBW] Re: WTB: Campeur Front Rack

[Nikko in Oakland]

They were out of stock for a very long time, but if you want to pay full 
retail... 
https://alexscycle.com/products/nitto-front-camping-carrier-for-randonneur-1

On Monday, February 26, 2024 at 11:30:40 AM UTC-8 matthew...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> I lied: Still trying lol. My build is nearly complete and this rack would 
> be the cherry on top
>
> On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 4:20:19 PM UTC-5 Matthew Rebmann wrote:
>
>> One last try- including a picture for clarity~
>>
>> Looking for the discontinued Velo Orange Campeur Front Rack, *not the 
>> Nitto Campee Front Rack* which has a different finish and lacks the 
>> integrated decaleur.
>>
>>
>> [image: Velo Orange Campeur Front Rack - Special Order only - 
>> BMTBonline.com]
>>
>> On Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 11:44:49 AM UTC-5 Matthew Rebmann wrote:
>>
>>> (Bump) Still on the look out for the Campeur Front Rack
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 8, 2023 at 11:28:03 AM UTC-5 Matthew Rebmann wrote:
>>>
 I'm working on a Velo Orange Polyvalent Touring build and the 
 discontinued front rack is exactly what I'm looking for. I'd go the Nitto 
 Campee but I'm aiming for a matching set and I prefer the aesthetics of 
 VO's racks for this build (Nitto also carries a hefty price, even though 
 it's worth it!). Any help would be greatly appreciated :)
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Campeur Front Rack

[Matthew Rebmann]

I lied: Still trying lol. My build is nearly complete and this rack would 
be the cherry on top

On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 4:20:19 PM UTC-5 Matthew Rebmann wrote:

> One last try- including a picture for clarity~
>
> Looking for the discontinued Velo Orange Campeur Front Rack, *not the 
> Nitto Campee Front Rack* which has a different finish and lacks the 
> integrated decaleur.
>
>
> [image: Velo Orange Campeur Front Rack - Special Order only - 
> BMTBonline.com]
>
> On Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 11:44:49 AM UTC-5 Matthew Rebmann wrote:
>
>> (Bump) Still on the look out for the Campeur Front Rack
>>
>> On Friday, December 8, 2023 at 11:28:03 AM UTC-5 Matthew Rebmann wrote:
>>
>>> I'm working on a Velo Orange Polyvalent Touring build and the 
>>> discontinued front rack is exactly what I'm looking for. I'd go the Nitto 
>>> Campee but I'm aiming for a matching set and I prefer the aesthetics of 
>>> VO's racks for this build (Nitto also carries a hefty price, even though 
>>> it's worth it!). Any help would be greatly appreciated :)
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Triple FD, 28.6

[Joe Bernard]

Thanks everybody, the FD has been acquired ‍♂️

On Sunday, February 25, 2024 at 8:47:38 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Shimano, Campy, Suntour, IRD, some weird plasticky looking Microshift with 
> shims, whaddyagot? For a Sugino 26-36-46 crank, 8-speed chain. 
>
> Joe Bernard 
> Lake County CA 
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB 50cm Roadini

[Brian Cunningham]

Seems like a good deal! For approximately the cost of a frame/fork and a Berthoud saddle you get a complete bike! Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 24, 2024, at 8:38 AM, Chris Fly  wrote:Thanks, I'll check it out! I wonder if this is anyone on here? On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 7:15 AM Doug H.  wrote:Here is one on craigslist... https://sandiego.craigslist.org/esd/bik/d/el-cajon-rivendell-radini-50cm/7719401355.htmlDougOn Friday, February 23, 2024 at 10:06:09 PM UTC-5 four...@gmail.com wrote:Hey all, still searching for a 50cm Roadini.. I know I can still get a new frameset, but hoping to get in with a bit cheaper route.. frameset or complete.. Thanks!



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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB 50cm Roadini

[Chris Fly]

Thanks, I'll check it out!

I wonder if this is anyone on here?

On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 7:15 AM Doug H.  wrote:

> Here is one on craigslist...
> https://sandiego.craigslist.org/esd/bik/d/el-cajon-rivendell-radini-50cm/7719401355.html
> Doug
>
> On Friday, February 23, 2024 at 10:06:09 PM UTC-5 four...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hey all, still searching for a 50cm Roadini.. I know I can still get a
>> new frameset, but hoping to get in with a bit cheaper route.. frameset or
>> complete..
>>
>> Thanks!
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[RBW] Re: WTB 50cm Roadini

[Doug H.]

Here is one on 
craigslist... 
https://sandiego.craigslist.org/esd/bik/d/el-cajon-rivendell-radini-50cm/7719401355.html
Doug

On Friday, February 23, 2024 at 10:06:09 PM UTC-5 four...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey all, still searching for a 50cm Roadini.. I know I can still get a new 
> frameset, but hoping to get in with a bit cheaper route.. frameset or 
> complete.. 
>
> Thanks!
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