[RBW] Re: Winter gloves

[Brad]

For a few seasons I've been wearing Head "running" gloves from Costco 
($12!). They're durable (I wear out Riv's rag wool gloves pretty quickly) 
and easily replaced. When it gets too far below 32°, I add the Riv MUSA 
mitts. When my hands get too hot (or I need fine motor skills), I flip 'em 
off and let them hang from my wrists.

Brad 
Queens



On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 8:01:26 AM UTC-5, Belopsky wrote:
>
> What do you all wear? It's down to 10*F here and getting colder. Have 
> never been happy with my previous..
>
> Had 'hippo hands' on my Pugsley last winter w some insulated gloves (some 
> cheapo insulation) and still wasn't enough. Wool liner was good but too 
> thick to layer..
>
> I am thinking maybe some Mittens 
> https://www.frostriver.com/?s=mittens_type=product
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[RBW] Re: Winter gloves

[Mark Reimer]

I've been using the Pearl Izumi winter lobster mitts down to -15C and felt 
warm and dry. Below that, I use the same mitts put wear them inside a thin 
gortex mitt. The mitt was a size L or XL, so there is lots of room for the 
lobster mitts inside, plus a chemical warmer if things get real brutal. I 
can ride all day in cold down to -40 without getting cold. 

Like everything else, I've found layering to be the key. Many locals here 
also swear by the nitrile glove as well, though I prefer finding a mitt 
that breathes well enough to avoid the issue. I just hate the 'smarmy' 
feeling inside the glove when you sweat. But they DO work, that's for sure. 
Same goes for feet. 

On Tuesday, January 19, 2016 at 8:55:29 AM UTC-6, Belopsky wrote:
>
> I can report that the 45nrth Sturmfist5 are good down to maybe 10-15 
> depending on wind chill. 
> Barmitts+the sturmfist5 were better, but my tips were still cold. 10*F 
> this morning.
>
> Next step is a thin merino wool liner before putting them on.
>

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[RBW] Re: Winter gloves

[Robert]

I'm surprised no one is mentioning rivs Musa mitts... I commute in NYC 5 
miles each way... this season have gone down to 25 degrees with them and 
been alright

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[RBW] Re: Winter gloves

[Belopsky]

I can report that the 45nrth Sturmfist5 are good down to maybe 10-15 
depending on wind chill. 
Barmitts+the sturmfist5 were better, but my tips were still cold. 10*F this 
morning.

Next step is a thin merino wool liner before putting them on.

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[RBW] Re: Winter gloves

[Belopsky]

Went ahead and bought a pair of gloves from 45nrth - sturmfist 5. Not cheap 
but very happy with the purchase.

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[RBW] Re: Winter gloves

[Belopsky]

Empire hasnt made any of those mittens yet. I dont think I can wait. 9*F 
today 

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[RBW] Re: Winter gloves

[ascpgh]

Winter's delayed arrival certainly postponed this year's bout of gear 
testing, but 10°F with blowing wind sure brought it all back. 

 Riding my commuter with bar ends on the drop bars I haven't had any 
problems steering, braking or shifting with an adequately sized mitt.  

I do have an ancient pair of lobsters from Pearl Izumi that are, as Deacon 
points out, adequately insulated with wind resistant, very vapor permeable 
shells. If it's wettish by snow or rain in any way, they are already out of 
their temperature envelope. In the coldest days last year (-12°F, 10 MPH 
wind) I found myself moving all fingers into one portion of their claws. 
These get kudos for the sheer duration (circa 1990) of their continued 
serviceability and validation of claims about PrimaLoft.

I have a pair of OR shell mitts with a grippy palm and thumb surface that 
have a more water resistant shell for the rain snow and slop, I just add a 
base glove or mitt inside to meet the needs of the day. They are my yeoman 
handware and are starting to look as so. 

All replies interesting both in the writers' baseline response to cold and 
the choices they've come to prefer. 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh


On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 10:42:41 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Tested to -20˚F. Boiled wool, with a nylon shell (or cotton canvas works 
> too -- no waterproof stuff, the idea is it need to block wind, but breathe 
> very well.). http://www.sweatersintl.com/dachstein_mitts.html
>
> You could experiment with lobsterizing them by getting a size up and 
> cutting/sewing them to split the fingers. This will diminish their warmth 
> somewhat though, so be aware of that.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 6:01:26 AM UTC-7, Belopsky wrote:
>>
>> What do you all wear? It's down to 10*F here and getting colder.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Winter gloves

[Belopsky]

need to get some asap.. Another morning commute (only 2.4miles) and my 
hands are uncomfortably cold in these leather eddie bauer thermolite gloves

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[RBW] Re: Winter gloves

[Montclair BobbyB]

+1 on Empire Canvas mitts (although I don't own them... yet).  I have nice 
Black Diamond mitts for extreme cold. Nothing beats mitts for warmth, but I 
generally prefer a greater degree of dexterity than mitts will afford. 
Hestra Guide Gloves are my glove of choice.
They feature removable wool inserts and are built to last.

On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 8:01:26 AM UTC-5, Belopsky wrote:
>
> What do you all wear? It's down to 10*F here and getting colder. Have 
> never been happy with my previous..
>
> Had 'hippo hands' on my Pugsley last winter w some insulated gloves (some 
> cheapo insulation) and still wasn't enough. Wool liner was good but too 
> thick to layer..
>
> I am thinking maybe some Mittens 
> https://www.frostriver.com/?s=mittens_type=product
>

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[RBW] Re: Winter gloves

[Conway Bennett]

I've been riding year round in Chicago since 2011 and I have never need more 
than outdoor research "gripper" gloves and merino glove liners.  My hands have 
been frostnipped before as result of working on boats in the winter (can't work 
in gloves-can't f in socks) and generally just hurt when it's cold but this 
combo works.  

When I've dogsledded in the boundary waters I did like the locals and used 
glove liners and "choppers", a combo of a thick raglan mitten and leather work 
mitten.

FW,

CCB

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Re: [RBW] Re: Winter gloves

[Tim Gavin]

My hands seem to have good circulation; I can wear light gloves and they'll
stay warm so long as I'm active.  So, my suggestions may not work well for
those with cold hands.

Currently, I wear light merino liners (Giro Westerly) under full-finger
MTB/BMX gloves down to 15-20F, and still sweat them through regularly.  I
rode 20 miles yesterday in ~25 F with this combo.
If it's colder, I'll use a thicker outer glove.
Above freezing, I wear the merino liners under fingerless bike gloves, or
the BMX gloves alone.

I've tried vapor-barrier-style gloves, like Garth suggests.  Mine are
nominally breathable (Roeckl Malvas

gloves, claimed 3000g/m2/24h, FWIW).  They're very thin, and feel like
spandex covered in a silicone or nitrile coating.  For me, they work just
like nitrile gloves -- very very sweaty.  I keep them in my bag for when I
stop in cold weather.

I've used boiled wool mitts before (Dachstein) for less-strenuous winter
activities like hiking, and they're great.  They don't wear very well (oh
darn!) so they're best under an outer-mitt.

Cheers,
Tim
Cedar Rapids, IA

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Conway Bennett <
captainconwaybenn...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've been riding year round in Chicago since 2011 and I have never need
> more than outdoor research "gripper" gloves and merino glove liners.  My
> hands have been frostnipped before as result of working on boats in the
> winter (can't work in gloves-can't f in socks) and generally just hurt
> when it's cold but this combo works.
>
> When I've dogsledded in the boundary waters I did like the locals and used
> glove liners and "choppers", a combo of a thick raglan mitten and leather
> work mitten.
>
> FW,
>
> CCB
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[RBW] Re: Winter gloves

[Andrew Patteson]

What Daniel said.  My circulation is poor and I have tried many different 
gloves and many layers of gloves.  Pogies plus light to medium gloves 
(depending on temp) are the best by far.

Andrew in SLC

On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 6:38:04 AM UTC-7, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>
> Pogies all the way. 
> Pierogies are tasty treats
> Pogies are toasty
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Winter gloves

[Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado]

I have these gloves and mittens and couldn't be happier.
They breathe and are pretty much water proof.
I have tried bike shop gloves for years and have not been happy with them.
Jon

http://www.sweaterchalet.com/quality-woolens/mittens-gloves

>
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[RBW] Re: Winter gloves

[Daniel Jackson]

Deacon,

You successfully operate brakes and hold on for dear life singletracking 
with mitts on an Albastache?!?!

That's Superhuman.

On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 10:42:41 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Tested to -20˚F. Boiled wool, with a nylon shell (or cotton canvas works 
> too -- no waterproof stuff, the idea is it need to block wind, but breathe 
> very well.). http://www.sweatersintl.com/dachstein_mitts.html
>
> You could experiment with lobsterizing them by getting a size up and 
> cutting/sewing them to split the fingers. This will diminish their warmth 
> somewhat though, so be aware of that.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 6:01:26 AM UTC-7, Belopsky wrote:
>>
>> What do you all wear? It's down to 10*F here and getting colder.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Winter gloves

[Deacon Patrick]

If I'm holding on for dear life, I'm going too fast. Grin. Also, most 
single track is inaccessible save by snowshoe this time of year, riding is 
more limited when temps are uber cold.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 8:46:31 AM UTC-7, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>
> Deacon,
>
> You successfully operate brakes and hold on for dear life singletracking 
> with mitts on an Albastache?!?!
>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Winter gloves

[Garth]

My only "tip" : Below 40 degrees, no matter what glove and mitten I wear my 
first layer is always a nitrile glove, the super thin "disposable" but 
reusable many many times . Yes, your basic "vapor barrier" to minimize 
evaporative heat loss.  When/if your hands start to sweat too much, simply 
adjust the insulating layer or even take the hands out of the insulating 
layer for awhile . 

Other than this, I've tried every glove/mitten type under the sun and none 
are better/worse than any other . Whether called "natural" or "synthetic" 
these are just meaningless pitches and names as everything works for 
someone . 




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[RBW] Re: Winter gloves

[Deacon Patrick]

Tested to -20˚F. Boiled wool, with a nylon shell (or cotton canvas works 
too -- no waterproof stuff, the idea is it need to block wind, but breathe 
very well.). http://www.sweatersintl.com/dachstein_mitts.html

You could experiment with lobsterizing them by getting a size up and 
cutting/sewing them to split the fingers. This will diminish their warmth 
somewhat though, so be aware of that.

With abandon,
Patrick

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> What do you all wear? It's down to 10*F here and getting colder.
>

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[RBW] Re: Winter gloves

[Belopsky]

Great suggestions. Thanks all. I figured either a lobster mitt or something 
with a wind stopper and of course wool liner.

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[RBW] Re: Winter gloves

[Kieran J]

I picked up a pair of these mitts last year (probably on Deac's 
recommendation) and they are great!! I wear them under a long nylon MEC 
shell mitt with grippy palm area and cuff cinches, and it's a great combo.

I wore them yesterday and this morning commuting to work here in Toronto 
(-25 C/-13 F with windchill, first real cold of this winter) and I was 
comfy with only a slight thumb chill.

TG it's warming up again!

KJ


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>
> Tested to -20˚F. Boiled wool, with a nylon shell (or cotton canvas works 
> too -- no waterproof stuff, the idea is it need to block wind, but breathe 
> very well.). http://www.sweatersintl.com/dachstein_mitts.html
>
>
>

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