Re: [RBW] Re: Your lockable commuter thread

[luckyturnip]

I always enjoy this thread. The one thing I’ve noticed is that is really hard 
for bike nerds, especially those who appreciate the Riv aesthetic, to avoid 
turning even the beaterist of beaters into some version of eye candy.
Even my son rides a clean 90’s Rockhopper to school, I tried putting him on a 
super ugly lower end bike and he couldn’t get into it. “Rides terribly,” he 
said, and he’s not into bikes. He’s just had the luxury of experiencing nicer 
bikes. 
So I invested in Pitlocks all around, and a good U-Lock, and hope that’s 
deterrent enough to move on, in the High School bike rack at least.
*not that I want any kids’ bikes stolen, Pitlocks or no*

> On Sep 6, 2021, at 07:35, Ryan  wrote:
> 
> Toshi...I devoutly hope so too, for your sake. But your lovely Cheviot is 
> tempting eye-candy.
> 
> I'm going back to a downtown university tomorrow...I'm a retired student 
> studying linguistics and I have one evening class on Mondays. My 2 non-rivs 
> are a 70's PX-10 set up as a single speed which is mechanically perfect but 
> deliberately grubby-looking and a 1993 X0-1. Much as I'd like the convenience 
> of riding my bike to school, leaving it locked up for 3 hours stresses me 
> out...so I'll walk to class and bus home. Bike theft is always a problem 
> downtown and the pandemic has kind of exacerbated the situation.
> 
>> On Sunday, September 5, 2021 at 6:58:06 PM UTC-5 ttoshi wrote:
>> I'm hoping my beautiful Cheviot is not beautiful to would-be robbers. 
>> 
>> Toshi
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Your lockable commuter thread

[Ryan]

Toshi...I devoutly hope so too, for your sake. But your lovely Cheviot is 
tempting eye-candy.

I'm going back to a downtown university tomorrow...I'm a retired student 
studying linguistics and I have one evening class on Mondays. My 2 non-rivs 
are a 70's PX-10 set up as a single speed which is mechanically perfect but 
deliberately grubby-looking and a 1993 X0-1. Much as I'd like the 
convenience of riding my bike to school, leaving it locked up for 3 hours 
stresses me out...so I'll walk to class and bus home. Bike theft is always 
a problem downtown and the pandemic has kind of exacerbated the situation.

On Sunday, September 5, 2021 at 6:58:06 PM UTC-5 ttoshi wrote:

> I'm hoping my beautiful Cheviot is not beautiful to would-be robbers. 
>
> Toshi
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Your lockable commuter thread

[brendonoid]

Wait this isn't r/xbiking. the MB-free and that Diamondback build are 
absolutely perfect though. Time to put a basket on my old GT so I can join 
the club!

On Monday, 6 September 2021 at 03:24:47 UTC+8 Clark Fitzgerald wrote:

>
> Sweet bikes! My cousin was looking for his first bike at 34 years old, and 
> I got this for him. I wish I would have had something like this for my 
> first bike. I’ve been riding it, and feel like it offers  90% of the 
> functionality of my Rivendell at 1/10th the price. 
>
> On Sun, Sep 5, 2021 at 8:55 AM Ashwath Akirekadu  wrote:
>
>> That's a cool bike!  Fully functional, yet not too much worry while you 
>> are doing your things with the bike is locked outside.  There's a valid N+1 
>> case for this type of bike!
>>
>> I have been using my Roadini for the occasions I have to keep the bike 
>> locked.  Roadini is quite nondescript, still it is hard to feel fully at 
>> ease knowing that I'd need ~$1800 to put together one like this again (if I 
>> can find a frame somehow)
>>
>> On Friday, 3 September 2021 at 21:29:35 UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> Bringing this ol' one back for my new (to me) Bridgestone MB-3 that I 
>>> scored for free off Craigslist (and fairly priced - it had been stored 
>>> outside for decades, had dents of concerning size, and generally needed a 
>>> lot of work to be a $200 bike). Traded some stuff, dug around my parts bin, 
>>> and everything just kind of fell into place in such a perfect way. It's now 
>>> my commuter, lock up, and general go-to bike for daily errand use. 
>>>
>>> [image: PXL_20210903_221157563.jpg]
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, 14 December 2020 at 10:58:16 UTC-8 andy.s...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 [image: IMG_9017 (2).jpg]
 I don't know how I've overlooked this thread. Last winter I repurposed 
 a 1971 Raleigh International frame to replace a Raleigh Sports for 
 commuting and shopping in NYC. Sturmey 8-speed, 700x35 Paselas, VO Tourist 
 bars and my trusty B66. Commuted to work only once before Covid but it 
 regularly brings home 4-5 bags of groceries in Linus canvas rollups in the 
 rear and an Acorn basket bag up front. Since this pic I've added a dynamo 
 hub and lighting. 

 Andy Scherer
 New York, NY

 On Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 6:46:00 PM UTC-5 Clark Fitzgerald 
 wrote:

> That is impressive. Such a clever idea, that fork.
>
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 9:36 PM Jason Fuller  
> wrote:
>
>> What's impressive about it is that it rides more or less the same in 
>> either condition - it's pretty neutral in either situation, which is 
>> quite 
>> appropriate!  I also hadn't considered that it actually makes the bike 
>> more 
>> compact overall with the smaller front wheel, which is handy for city 
>> use. 
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, 8 December 2020 at 19:33:28 UTC-8 Clark Fitzgerald wrote:
>>
>>> Sweet ride! Jason, how does that Crust fork ride loaded and unloaded?
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Your lockable commuter thread

[Clark Fitzgerald]

That is impressive. Such a clever idea, that fork.

On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 9:36 PM Jason Fuller  wrote:

> What's impressive about it is that it rides more or less the same in
> either condition - it's pretty neutral in either situation, which is quite
> appropriate!  I also hadn't considered that it actually makes the bike more
> compact overall with the smaller front wheel, which is handy for city use.
>
>
> On Tuesday, 8 December 2020 at 19:33:28 UTC-8 Clark Fitzgerald wrote:
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>> Sweet ride! Jason, how does that Crust fork ride loaded and unloaded?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Your lockable commuter thread

[Jason Fuller]

What's impressive about it is that it rides more or less the same in either 
condition - it's pretty neutral in either situation, which is quite 
appropriate!  I also hadn't considered that it actually makes the bike more 
compact overall with the smaller front wheel, which is handy for city use. 


On Tuesday, 8 December 2020 at 19:33:28 UTC-8 Clark Fitzgerald wrote:

> Sweet ride! Jason, how does that Crust fork ride loaded and unloaded?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Your lockable commuter thread

[Jason Fuller]

Collin - I think you're completely right and it's somewhat intentional. 
Counter-intuitively I wanted a cheaper and a nicer version of the same 
thing basically so that a) I could leave the knobby tires on the Sam more 
often by having a "stand-in" on hand and b) have a more lockable, lower 
cost-of-maintenance bike for badweather days or what have you. I have come 
to find that this makes more sense than having bikes built for different 
types of riding for me, because I like rides that have a little bit of 
everything and that's what I tend to do. So the XO-2 and the Sam are 
basically weekday and weekend versions of each other now. 

Clark - thanks!  I actually would like to get the rear fenders a bit closer 
to the tire, but the seat stay bracket is at full extension here.  I hope 
to locate a longer one and adjust, but also, I'm leaving room for 42mm 
tires in the future :)  These Marathons were freebies from a buddy.   


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Re: [RBW] Re: Your lockable commuter thread

[Collin A]

Looks like your Sam if I'm being honest

On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 6:10:06 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Gah, I am so bad at keeping a bike low key and cheap. Bought the bike for 
> $250, put $1000 in parts on it immediately, and have a full dynamo setup on 
> order too. But then I'm done right?!  
>
> [image: 20191004054111.JPG]
>
> [image: 20191004054236.JPG]
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Re: [RBW] Re: Your lockable commuter thread

[Tom Palmer]

Hi Patrick,
I tried to reply privately, but failed even on my desktop. 
In response to this- Or, does anyone want to trade (f + orig f + custom 
racks + well used 45 mm fenders + new 35 mm fenders + that canti fork) for 
a good quality rigid mountain bike, 26" or 29er, either a high-end steel 
NORBA-type without susp fork, or something like a Monocog 29er? Single 
speed preferred. Full bike from you, those parts from me, each takes care 
of own shipping.

I've thought out loud before about a nicely riding beater for our very 
occasional snows (but all the more fun for being very occasional; last 
winter saw quite a bit of snow, but Big Ones are not the best tire for it) 
and for general beating around without much care for the bike. A Monocog 
29er would be perfect; I owned one circa 2010 and rode if for a few years 
before trading up to the Fargo.

I have a mint Specialized Stumpjumper that I might be willing to send your 
way. Around 93 so Norba geometry. it even has the matching green Umma Gumma 
tires. 
contact me privately at volvotom1964 at gmail if you have any interest. I 
also have a Redline Monocog. Is your S3X hub laced up to a 26" wheel? If so 
maybe we can talk on that too. I have one in 700c and the lash is not a big 
deal to me. 

Sorry all for broadcasting, I couldn't figure another way.

Tom Palmer
Twin Lake, MI USA

On Sunday, September 27, 2020 at 12:20:32 AM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Thanks, Kurt, it was conscientious and courteous of you to reply, and the 
> information is useful.
>
> I am really torn. Somone on the CR list expressed interest in buying the 
> frameset but I am intrigued by the thought of installing the original, 
> slightly too short RBRD fork with canti bosses to take a 42 mm tire, and 
> (need to check this!) putting a 42 in the rear without a caliper, on a 
> wheel built around that otherwise apparently useless (*) S3X hub, with the 
> otherwise overly large (and very spare) 52 t Pro 5 Vis ring and a 15 t cog 
> for 89/67/56 gi (**) (89 for downhills because otherwise I detest the slop 
> in the hub. That Bullmoose looks like a very good bar to try.
>
> But this would mean no fenders, and even an upscale alternative to a 
> Raleigh Sports needs fenders.
>
> So I am starting to teeter back toward the side of selling the damned 
> thing.
>
> Or, does anyone want to trade (f + orig f + custom racks + well used 45 mm 
> fenders + new 35 mm fenders + that canti fork) for a good quality rigid 
> mountain bike, 26" or 29er, either a high-end steel NORBA-type without susp 
> fork, or something like a Monocog 29er? Single speed preferred. Full bike 
> from you, those parts from me, each takes care of own shipping.
>
> I've thought out loud before about a nicely riding beater for our very 
> occasional snows (but all the more fun for being very occasional; last 
> winter saw quite a bit of snow, but Big Ones are not the best tire for it) 
> and for general beating around without much care for the bike. A Monocog 
> 29er would be perfect; I owned one circa 2010 and rode if for a few years 
> before trading up to the Fargo.
>
> Anyone? If so, let's talk. 
>
> * Too much slop in the gears. The gaps are reversed to what a normal 
> person would choose, with a big gap between direct and second, and a 
> smaller gap between 2nd and 3d. If those ratios were reversed, much like 
> those of the old ASC -- direct, 90%, then a climbing gear 75% of 
> 3d/high/direct -- I would probably put up with the slop. 
>
> ** Downhill gear, because trying to keep up with a cruising gear on a 
> long, fast downhill when there is 30* of slop in the cranks is no fun at 
> all. It's even a pain in a 95% gear on this hub.
>
> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 9:06 PM 'Kurt Henry' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Patrick, I apologize for the delay.  I don't use my laptop often and I 
>> was having trouble replying from my phone with the new version of google 
>> groups. Yes, those are Nitto/Fairweather Bullmoose bars for threadless 
>> setups. As for cruising gear, that's a good question.  I suspect in the 
>> 60-65" range, as that's what I've run fixed and single speed in the past.  
>> It's hard to specify a cruising gear with this, though, as I've commonly 
>> either been pushed along as my trailer catches the wind one way, or held 
>> back by it the other.  As far as my position, I find that I'm a bit more 
>> weighted toward my hands than I might like, but my trips are usually a 
>> couple/few miles each way, so not a concern.  It's definitely comfortable 
>> enough for grocery runs or quick errands.
>> Kurt Henry
>> Lancaster, PA USA
>>
>> On Sunday, September 20, 2020 at 7:43:07 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> When I see such bikes -- very appealing; a modern and much better 
>>> re-invention of the Raleigh Sport, of which I've owned at least 3 -- I 
>>> think again about turning the 2003 Curt 26" wheel Riv Road custom into an 
>>> upright, tourist-type bar, B 

Re: [RBW] Re: Your lockable commuter thread

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks, Kurt, it was conscientious and courteous of you to reply, and the
information is useful.

I am really torn. Somone on the CR list expressed interest in buying the
frameset but I am intrigued by the thought of installing the original,
slightly too short RBRD fork with canti bosses to take a 42 mm tire, and
(need to check this!) putting a 42 in the rear without a caliper, on a
wheel built around that otherwise apparently useless (*) S3X hub, with the
otherwise overly large (and very spare) 52 t Pro 5 Vis ring and a 15 t cog
for 89/67/56 gi (**) (89 for downhills because otherwise I detest the slop
in the hub. That Bullmoose looks like a very good bar to try.

But this would mean no fenders, and even an upscale alternative to a
Raleigh Sports needs fenders.

So I am starting to teeter back toward the side of selling the damned thing.

Or, does anyone want to trade (f + orig f + custom racks + well used 45 mm
fenders + new 35 mm fenders + that canti fork) for a good quality rigid
mountain bike, 26" or 29er, either a high-end steel NORBA-type without susp
fork, or something like a Monocog 29er? Single speed preferred. Full bike
from you, those parts from me, each takes care of own shipping.

I've thought out loud before about a nicely riding beater for our very
occasional snows (but all the more fun for being very occasional; last
winter saw quite a bit of snow, but Big Ones are not the best tire for it)
and for general beating around without much care for the bike. A Monocog
29er would be perfect; I owned one circa 2010 and rode if for a few years
before trading up to the Fargo.

Anyone? If so, let's talk.

* Too much slop in the gears. The gaps are reversed to what a normal person
would choose, with a big gap between direct and second, and a smaller gap
between 2nd and 3d. If those ratios were reversed, much like those of the
old ASC -- direct, 90%, then a climbing gear 75% of 3d/high/direct -- I
would probably put up with the slop.

** Downhill gear, because trying to keep up with a cruising gear on a long,
fast downhill when there is 30* of slop in the cranks is no fun at all.
It's even a pain in a 95% gear on this hub.

On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 9:06 PM 'Kurt Henry' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Patrick, I apologize for the delay.  I don't use my laptop often and I was
> having trouble replying from my phone with the new version of google
> groups. Yes, those are Nitto/Fairweather Bullmoose bars for threadless
> setups. As for cruising gear, that's a good question.  I suspect in the
> 60-65" range, as that's what I've run fixed and single speed in the past.
> It's hard to specify a cruising gear with this, though, as I've commonly
> either been pushed along as my trailer catches the wind one way, or held
> back by it the other.  As far as my position, I find that I'm a bit more
> weighted toward my hands than I might like, but my trips are usually a
> couple/few miles each way, so not a concern.  It's definitely comfortable
> enough for grocery runs or quick errands.
> Kurt Henry
> Lancaster, PA USA
>
> On Sunday, September 20, 2020 at 7:43:07 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> When I see such bikes -- very appealing; a modern and much better
>> re-invention of the Raleigh Sport, of which I've owned at least 3 -- I
>> think again about turning the 2003 Curt 26" wheel Riv Road custom into an
>> upright, tourist-type bar, B 67-type saddle cruiser with the abandoned fork
>> from the new Chauncey; and now that I have received the 1.8" RH Naches Pass
>> ELs that are tubeless compatible, I dream about finding a pair of 26"
>> tubeless rims [I let a pair get away, alas] and install these tires on
>> them, with an SP dynohub in front and either a 2 speed kickback or that
>> annoyingly otherwise unusable S3X hub (52 X 15 X 25.6" wheel = 89" direct
>> 3rd/high -- for downhills to avoid the effect of the hub's lash; 66"
>> underdrive 2nd for cruising; and 55" underdrive 1st for hills not too steep
>> to require walking) on the rear wheel; this because the new Chauncey AM-hub
>> bike just works so well with the 28 mm (labeld 32 mm) Elk Passes that I'm
>> reluctant to mess with it by installing fatter tires. And it's not as if
>> skinny 26" X 42 mm tires at a rock hard 40 psi are going to work well on
>> the deep sandy patches that my 700C X 61.5 (just measured one yestiddy:
>> 61.48 mm) at 20 psi roll over so well.
>>
>> My immediate solution to the dilemma is to procrastinate ... But all
>> y'all thoughts welcome.
>>
>> In particular, I wonder about the bar. I find all bars -- I've used a
>> very fair selection, including well over half a dozen dirt drop types --
>> except road-type drop bars uncomfortable after just a few miles, but I
>> wonder if I simply need to be more radical in re-thinking my riding
>> position. For a Bosco bar upright position, are you sitting with say 2/3 of
>> your weight on saddle and close to 1/3 of it on the pedals, so that almost
>> nothing 

Re: [RBW] Re: Your lockable commuter thread

['Kurt Henry' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Patrick, I apologize for the delay.  I don't use my laptop often and I was 
having trouble replying from my phone with the new version of google 
groups. Yes, those are Nitto/Fairweather Bullmoose bars for threadless 
setups. As for cruising gear, that's a good question.  I suspect in the 
60-65" range, as that's what I've run fixed and single speed in the past.  
It's hard to specify a cruising gear with this, though, as I've commonly 
either been pushed along as my trailer catches the wind one way, or held 
back by it the other.  As far as my position, I find that I'm a bit more 
weighted toward my hands than I might like, but my trips are usually a 
couple/few miles each way, so not a concern.  It's definitely comfortable 
enough for grocery runs or quick errands.
Kurt Henry
Lancaster, PA USA

On Sunday, September 20, 2020 at 7:43:07 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> When I see such bikes -- very appealing; a modern and much better 
> re-invention of the Raleigh Sport, of which I've owned at least 3 -- I 
> think again about turning the 2003 Curt 26" wheel Riv Road custom into an 
> upright, tourist-type bar, B 67-type saddle cruiser with the abandoned fork 
> from the new Chauncey; and now that I have received the 1.8" RH Naches Pass 
> ELs that are tubeless compatible, I dream about finding a pair of 26" 
> tubeless rims [I let a pair get away, alas] and install these tires on 
> them, with an SP dynohub in front and either a 2 speed kickback or that 
> annoyingly otherwise unusable S3X hub (52 X 15 X 25.6" wheel = 89" direct 
> 3rd/high -- for downhills to avoid the effect of the hub's lash; 66" 
> underdrive 2nd for cruising; and 55" underdrive 1st for hills not too steep 
> to require walking) on the rear wheel; this because the new Chauncey AM-hub 
> bike just works so well with the 28 mm (labeld 32 mm) Elk Passes that I'm 
> reluctant to mess with it by installing fatter tires. And it's not as if 
> skinny 26" X 42 mm tires at a rock hard 40 psi are going to work well on 
> the deep sandy patches that my 700C X 61.5 (just measured one yestiddy: 
> 61.48 mm) at 20 psi roll over so well.
>
> My immediate solution to the dilemma is to procrastinate ... But all y'all 
> thoughts welcome.
>
> In particular, I wonder about the bar. I find all bars -- I've used a very 
> fair selection, including well over half a dozen dirt drop types -- except 
> road-type drop bars uncomfortable after just a few miles, but I wonder if I 
> simply need to be more radical in re-thinking my riding position. For a 
> Bosco bar upright position, are you sitting with say 2/3 of your weight on 
> saddle and close to 1/3 of it on the pedals, so that almost nothing is on 
> your hands? If so, this sort of position would require a further rethinking 
> of pedaling style (I like to lean forward and torque) and therefore of 
> gearing. I can't see riding Kurt's example and not having too much weight 
> on my hands for any sort of "tourist" bar. Kurt, your bar is a Bullmoose, 
> right? What is your "default" cruising gear?
>
> So, for those of you with Clems and bars 6" higher than saddle, sitting 
> bolt upright, what sort of gear do you use for fastish cruising on the flat 
> on smooth paved surfaces with no wind? Me, a 70 to 75+" gear is normal, 
> depending on bike and crank and tires for an on-hoods road position; I 
> imagine fully 10 gear inches lower sitting bolt upright with most of my 
> weight on the saddle. Am I right?
>
> On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 2:30 PM 'Kurt Henry' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> I'm late to the game, but hope I can still play.  I thought of this 
>> thread when I was unloading groceries from my trailer today, so grabbed my 
>> phone out of my pocket and got a quick picture.  It's not drive side, but I 
>> had it parked against the flower bed while I was unloading on the way into 
>> the garage, which is to the left in the pic.  The Arkel pack on the 
>> opposite side has my flat repair stuff, plus tools, and in this day and 
>> age, mask + hand sanitizer in the top pocket for easy access while running 
>> errands.  But it also pops off easily to take into stores if I want to just 
>> pile things in, pay, and throw it back in.  The trailer only goes on for 
>> big stuff, like grocery store or dog food runs.
>> Thanks!
>> Kurt Henry
>> Lancaster, PA USA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Your lockable commuter thread

[Patrick Moore]

That Atala reminds me of the old, 1973 IIRC, Motobecane Grand Record that I
used as a grocery and errand beater. Light, 531 frame and fork, but long
stays (45 cm to end of dropout). Original paint was not the best, and 30+
years had weathered it, so somewhat stealthy. Built it with good but
inexpensive parts into fixed gear load carrier; oddly, best load carrier
I've owned despite it's light frame; better than much stouter frames. 67"
gear got me up even steep hills (back then, as a feisty 50-something).

Oh, and the old early Raleigh Technium sports touring model that I owned
just before the Motobecane: tank despite the bonded aluminum construction,
flexy, but Cadillac ride with (then seemed very fat) 32 mm Vittoria
clinchers.

On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 10:11 AM Pete P  wrote:

> My Atala.  Riv’d it up with old parts and even tried out those upright
> albatross handlebars. That is what converted me from uncomfortable road
> bars on my Atlantis (to choco bars- similar)
>
> I like to use this bike if going downtown Minneapolis or at the home
> despot store. I do use cable to capture the saddle and wheel and a
> kryptonite for the frame front wheel and to the rack. If I lost it to a
> thief I’d be sad but I only ride within a 5 mile walking distance away.
>
>
> On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 9:37:16 AM UTC-5 foolis...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Well said Carl. Well said.
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 4:24 PM tuolumne bikes 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
 With apologies to anyone that's already seen enough of Herbie on
>>> Instagram. All that's left of his original life is headset, fork and frame.
>>> The original equipment was five speed indexed. Now it's solid seven speed
>>> friction. While I wouldn't ride it to Tibet, this is my most comfortable
>>> riding and handling bike, and it's been all over, even on tour.
>>>
>>> The timing of this thread is great for a reminder that Weds September 23
>>> is the 2nd Annual Be Kind to Your Beater Bike Day. Fix, clean, upgrade, or
>>> do a great ride on your most basic bike and post with
>>> #bekindtoyourbeaterbikeday  This year BKYBBD lines up well with the
>>> northern California reschedules of Bike to Work Day as Bike to Anywhere Day
>>> on 9/24. It also could fit in with Adventure Cycling Association's Bike
>>> Your Park Day and Bike Travel Weekend which are 9/25-9/27.
>>>
>>> If the air quality allows, and I can still ride up hills, Herbie will be
>>> hauling a pizza and thermos of tea to the top of Sonora Pass. Herb will get
>>> a new Tuolumne 108 sticker as a memento. The idea is to remember that even
>>> modest bikes can do great things. If we want biking to be more inclusive,
>>> we need to remember that not everyone can afford the spectacular bikes we
>>> love so much. Best way to celebrate? Support your local coop or community
>>> bike shop and their efforts to make biking more available and inviting for
>>> all.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Carl
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Your lockable commuter thread

[Pete P]

My Atala.  Riv’d it up with old parts and even tried out those upright 
albatross handlebars. That is what converted me from uncomfortable road 
bars on my Atlantis (to choco bars- similar) I won’t ever go back to drop 
bars.

I like to use this bike if going downtown Minneapolis or shopping at the 
home despot store. I do use a cable to capture the saddle and back wheel 
and a kryptonite for the frame/front wheel and to the bike rack. If I lost 
it to a thief I’d be very sad but I only ride within a 5 mile max walking 
distance away! This bike has a freewheel with 5 sprockets and only 2 usable 
chainrings up front. The gearing is simplicity- 28/38 up front and 
15,17,19,24,30 in back. So my top gear is 68” I’ve already ground off the 
teeth of the outer to act as a chain guard. It is very comfortable. I 
should replace the stem as it is quite old. It’s a tall one which gets the 
h’bars way up there where I like. 

Pete

32007879831_87f28d4bf0_z.jpg 


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On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 9:37:16 AM UTC-5 foolis...@gmail.com wrote:

> Well said Carl. Well said.
>
> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 4:24 PM tuolumne bikes  
> wrote:
>
>>
>>> With apologies to anyone that's already seen enough of Herbie on 
>> Instagram. All that's left of his original life is headset, fork and frame. 
>> The original equipment was five speed indexed. Now it's solid seven speed 
>> friction. While I wouldn't ride it to Tibet, this is my most comfortable 
>> riding and handling bike, and it's been all over, even on tour. 
>>
>> The timing of this thread is great for a reminder that Weds September 23 
>> is the 2nd Annual Be Kind to Your Beater Bike Day. Fix, clean, upgrade, or 
>> do a great ride on your most basic bike and post with 
>> #bekindtoyourbeaterbikeday  This year BKYBBD lines up well with the 
>> northern California reschedules of Bike to Work Day as Bike to Anywhere Day 
>> on 9/24. It also could fit in with Adventure Cycling Association's Bike 
>> Your Park Day and Bike Travel Weekend which are 9/25-9/27. 
>>
>> If the air quality allows, and I can still ride up hills, Herbie will be 
>> hauling a pizza and thermos of tea to the top of Sonora Pass. Herb will get 
>> a new Tuolumne 108 sticker as a memento. The idea is to remember that even 
>> modest bikes can do great things. If we want biking to be more inclusive, 
>> we need to remember that not everyone can afford the spectacular bikes we 
>> love so much. Best way to celebrate? Support your local coop or community 
>> bike shop and their efforts to make biking more available and inviting for 
>> all.
>>
>> Thanks, Carl
>>
>>
>>
>>  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Your lockable commuter thread

[Trevor Bradshaw]

Well said Carl. Well said.

On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 4:24 PM tuolumne bikes 
wrote:

>
>> With apologies to anyone that's already seen enough of Herbie on
> Instagram. All that's left of his original life is headset, fork and frame.
> The original equipment was five speed indexed. Now it's solid seven speed
> friction. While I wouldn't ride it to Tibet, this is my most comfortable
> riding and handling bike, and it's been all over, even on tour.
>
> The timing of this thread is great for a reminder that Weds September 23
> is the 2nd Annual Be Kind to Your Beater Bike Day. Fix, clean, upgrade, or
> do a great ride on your most basic bike and post with
> #bekindtoyourbeaterbikeday  This year BKYBBD lines up well with the
> northern California reschedules of Bike to Work Day as Bike to Anywhere Day
> on 9/24. It also could fit in with Adventure Cycling Association's Bike
> Your Park Day and Bike Travel Weekend which are 9/25-9/27.
>
> If the air quality allows, and I can still ride up hills, Herbie will be
> hauling a pizza and thermos of tea to the top of Sonora Pass. Herb will get
> a new Tuolumne 108 sticker as a memento. The idea is to remember that even
> modest bikes can do great things. If we want biking to be more inclusive,
> we need to remember that not everyone can afford the spectacular bikes we
> love so much. Best way to celebrate? Support your local coop or community
> bike shop and their efforts to make biking more available and inviting for
> all.
>
> Thanks, Carl
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Your lockable commuter thread

[Patrick Moore]

When I see such bikes -- very appealing; a modern and much better
re-invention of the Raleigh Sport, of which I've owned at least 3 -- I
think again about turning the 2003 Curt 26" wheel Riv Road custom into an
upright, tourist-type bar, B 67-type saddle cruiser with the abandoned fork
from the new Chauncey; and now that I have received the 1.8" RH Naches Pass
ELs that are tubeless compatible, I dream about finding a pair of 26"
tubeless rims [I let a pair get away, alas] and install these tires on
them, with an SP dynohub in front and either a 2 speed kickback or that
annoyingly otherwise unusable S3X hub (52 X 15 X 25.6" wheel = 89" direct
3rd/high -- for downhills to avoid the effect of the hub's lash; 66"
underdrive 2nd for cruising; and 55" underdrive 1st for hills not too steep
to require walking) on the rear wheel; this because the new Chauncey AM-hub
bike just works so well with the 28 mm (labeld 32 mm) Elk Passes that I'm
reluctant to mess with it by installing fatter tires. And it's not as if
skinny 26" X 42 mm tires at a rock hard 40 psi are going to work well on
the deep sandy patches that my 700C X 61.5 (just measured one yestiddy:
61.48 mm) at 20 psi roll over so well.

My immediate solution to the dilemma is to procrastinate ... But all y'all
thoughts welcome.

In particular, I wonder about the bar. I find all bars -- I've used a very
fair selection, including well over half a dozen dirt drop types -- except
road-type drop bars uncomfortable after just a few miles, but I wonder if I
simply need to be more radical in re-thinking my riding position. For a
Bosco bar upright position, are you sitting with say 2/3 of your weight on
saddle and close to 1/3 of it on the pedals, so that almost nothing is on
your hands? If so, this sort of position would require a further rethinking
of pedaling style (I like to lean forward and torque) and therefore of
gearing. I can't see riding Kurt's example and not having too much weight
on my hands for any sort of "tourist" bar. Kurt, your bar is a Bullmoose,
right? What is your "default" cruising gear?

So, for those of you with Clems and bars 6" higher than saddle, sitting
bolt upright, what sort of gear do you use for fastish cruising on the flat
on smooth paved surfaces with no wind? Me, a 70 to 75+" gear is normal,
depending on bike and crank and tires for an on-hoods road position; I
imagine fully 10 gear inches lower sitting bolt upright with most of my
weight on the saddle. Am I right?

On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 2:30 PM 'Kurt Henry' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I'm late to the game, but hope I can still play.  I thought of this thread
> when I was unloading groceries from my trailer today, so grabbed my phone
> out of my pocket and got a quick picture.  It's not drive side, but I had
> it parked against the flower bed while I was unloading on the way into the
> garage, which is to the left in the pic.  The Arkel pack on the opposite
> side has my flat repair stuff, plus tools, and in this day and age, mask +
> hand sanitizer in the top pocket for easy access while running errands.
> But it also pops off easily to take into stores if I want to just pile
> things in, pay, and throw it back in.  The trailer only goes on for big
> stuff, like grocery store or dog food runs.
> Thanks!
> Kurt Henry
> Lancaster, PA USA
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[RBW] Re: Your lockable commuter thread

[Ben Mihovk]

If I locked mine outside ever, I would certainly consider some kind of 
theft deterrent for my saddle. At the very least, I'd throw a cover on it. 
I'm in Omaha, and bike theft is not a non-issue here, but it's a lot lower 
than it would be other places I'm sure. 

On Tuesday, September 15, 2020 at 8:58:52 AM UTC-5 Clark Fitzgerald wrote:

> I'm surprised others don't have chains on their Brooks saddles. Twice I've 
> had my Brook's stolen while the bike was locked. 
>
> On Tuesday, September 15, 2020 at 4:30:05 AM UTC-7 bjmi...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I love this thread!
>> I just ordered an Atlantis and have been riding this for about ten 
>> months...
>> [image: commuter.jpg]
>>
>> It's a Linus Altore 7 that I Riv'd up this summer. Dirt drop stem (bike 
>> is too small for me as you can see from the SUPER jacked up post and stem), 
>> B17, cork grips with two coats of Shellac, switched to a Sunrace thumbie 
>> and installed it inside the left handlebar. Since this picture was taken I 
>> put on 35mm Panaracer Tourguard tires for a much comfier ride than the 28mm 
>> pictured, I took the fenders off because I couldn't fit the tire with them 
>> on (and honestly, the fenders were a little wide for those brakes). 
>>
>> When my Atlantis comes (hopefully next week!!!) I might keep this 
>> bike...but I can take my bike inside at work (teacher with a storage room 
>> off of my classroom), so I don't see not riding the Atlantis for all my 
>> commuting. It's only a 20 minute ride. 
>> On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 5:49:57 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> Hey friends, this is a thinly veiled excuse to post my recent 
>>> acquisition: a '92 XO-2. I had a '92 XO-1 (also white) as some of you've 
>>> seen, which I dialed in pretty nice but ultimately didn't have a practical 
>>> need for, so I recently sold it to a friend. The XO-2 might not have the 
>>> clout but it does have increased tire clearance and canti brakes (without 
>>> the excessively bloated value of a '93 XO-1), and that means it would make 
>>> a great all-rounder and commuter for me. 
>>>
>>> Currently I have a Clem H for this purpose, but it's pretty overbuilt 
>>> for what I need, and I'm hoping that this will be a cost-effective way to 
>>> have the zippier all-rounder I've been craving. My intention was to jump on 
>>> the Charlie H Gallop, but if this works out I won't need to!
>>>
>>> It will get some racks and Naches Pass tires but will try to keep the 
>>> upgrades to a minimum (yeah... we'll see how that goes). 
>>>
>>> ANYWAY, please feel free to share what you use for this purpose, ideally 
>>> the bike you're comfortable leaving locked up outside the bar for a couple 
>>> hours! 
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_20200912_143317.jpg]
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Your lockable commuter thread

[Clark Fitzgerald]

I'm surprised others don't have chains on their Brooks saddles. Twice I've 
had my Brook's stolen while the bike was locked. 

On Tuesday, September 15, 2020 at 4:30:05 AM UTC-7 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:

> I love this thread!
> I just ordered an Atlantis and have been riding this for about ten 
> months...
> [image: commuter.jpg]
>
> It's a Linus Altore 7 that I Riv'd up this summer. Dirt drop stem (bike is 
> too small for me as you can see from the SUPER jacked up post and stem), 
> B17, cork grips with two coats of Shellac, switched to a Sunrace thumbie 
> and installed it inside the left handlebar. Since this picture was taken I 
> put on 35mm Panaracer Tourguard tires for a much comfier ride than the 28mm 
> pictured, I took the fenders off because I couldn't fit the tire with them 
> on (and honestly, the fenders were a little wide for those brakes). 
>
> When my Atlantis comes (hopefully next week!!!) I might keep this 
> bike...but I can take my bike inside at work (teacher with a storage room 
> off of my classroom), so I don't see not riding the Atlantis for all my 
> commuting. It's only a 20 minute ride. 
> On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 5:49:57 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> Hey friends, this is a thinly veiled excuse to post my recent 
>> acquisition: a '92 XO-2. I had a '92 XO-1 (also white) as some of you've 
>> seen, which I dialed in pretty nice but ultimately didn't have a practical 
>> need for, so I recently sold it to a friend. The XO-2 might not have the 
>> clout but it does have increased tire clearance and canti brakes (without 
>> the excessively bloated value of a '93 XO-1), and that means it would make 
>> a great all-rounder and commuter for me. 
>>
>> Currently I have a Clem H for this purpose, but it's pretty overbuilt for 
>> what I need, and I'm hoping that this will be a cost-effective way to have 
>> the zippier all-rounder I've been craving. My intention was to jump on the 
>> Charlie H Gallop, but if this works out I won't need to!
>>
>> It will get some racks and Naches Pass tires but will try to keep the 
>> upgrades to a minimum (yeah... we'll see how that goes). 
>>
>> ANYWAY, please feel free to share what you use for this purpose, ideally 
>> the bike you're comfortable leaving locked up outside the bar for a couple 
>> hours! 
>>
>> [image: IMG_20200912_143317.jpg]
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Your lockable commuter thread

[Jason Fuller]

I love the beer can over the Edelux trick!

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[RBW] Re: Your lockable commuter thread

[Clark Fitzgerald]

Jason, great theme for a thread!

On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 10:17:53 PM UTC-7 Clark Fitzgerald wrote:

> I love these bikes. They all say loud and clear: "I get rode all the time, 
> everywhere, in all conditions." Here's mine. Special features include:
> - frame found abandoned down by the river
> - taped on beer can disguising a Schmidt Edelux II dynamo light
> - my name carved deeply into the saddle
> - new Schwalbe Kojak tires. I wasn't very good at keeping sealant in my 
> tubeless Compass Rat Traps, and decided I prefer tubes for this build.
> [image: IMG_1212.JPG]
>
> On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 3:49:57 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> Hey friends, this is a thinly veiled excuse to post my recent 
>> acquisition: a '92 XO-2. I had a '92 XO-1 (also white) as some of you've 
>> seen, which I dialed in pretty nice but ultimately didn't have a practical 
>> need for, so I recently sold it to a friend. The XO-2 might not have the 
>> clout but it does have increased tire clearance and canti brakes (without 
>> the excessively bloated value of a '93 XO-1), and that means it would make 
>> a great all-rounder and commuter for me. 
>>
>> Currently I have a Clem H for this purpose, but it's pretty overbuilt for 
>> what I need, and I'm hoping that this will be a cost-effective way to have 
>> the zippier all-rounder I've been craving. My intention was to jump on the 
>> Charlie H Gallop, but if this works out I won't need to!
>>
>> It will get some racks and Naches Pass tires but will try to keep the 
>> upgrades to a minimum (yeah... we'll see how that goes). 
>>
>> ANYWAY, please feel free to share what you use for this purpose, ideally 
>> the bike you're comfortable leaving locked up outside the bar for a couple 
>> hours! 
>>
>> [image: IMG_20200912_143317.jpg]
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Your lockable commuter thread

[Jingy]

You need to cover up the graphix so they don't know it's such a desirable 
collector bike!

On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 5:49:57 PM UTC-5, Jason Fuller wrote:
>
> Hey friends, this is a thinly veiled excuse to post my recent acquisition: 
> a '92 XO-2. I had a '92 XO-1 (also white) as some of you've seen, which I 
> dialed in pretty nice but ultimately didn't have a practical need for, so I 
> recently sold it to a friend. The XO-2 might not have the clout but it does 
> have increased tire clearance and canti brakes (without the excessively 
> bloated value of a '93 XO-1), and that means it would make a great 
> all-rounder and commuter for me. 
>
> Currently I have a Clem H for this purpose, but it's pretty overbuilt for 
> what I need, and I'm hoping that this will be a cost-effective way to have 
> the zippier all-rounder I've been craving. My intention was to jump on the 
> Charlie H Gallop, but if this works out I won't need to!
>
> It will get some racks and Naches Pass tires but will try to keep the 
> upgrades to a minimum (yeah... we'll see how that goes). 
>
> ANYWAY, please feel free to share what you use for this purpose, ideally 
> the bike you're comfortable leaving locked up outside the bar for a couple 
> hours! 
>
> [image: IMG_20200912_143317.jpg]
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