Re: [RBW] Re: nitto big rack question
Obviously, those with low riders love them. Anyone using the Nitto front racks? René On 4/26/10, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: The NeoAir inflated is 72 X 20. Agreed that the down sleeping bag is worthless when wet which is why a waterproof stuff-sack is mandatory. I've backpacked, sea kayaked, biked and river rafted in miserable wet weather in the Rockies and Alaska, and never had a problem. That said you do need to be thoughtful about packing it and keeping it dry and you need a very high degree of confidence in your tent. A down sleeping bag will also last much longer than a comparable synthetic (I put the lifespan of a heavily used synthetic at around 5 years, even if kept in a storage bag). For me the comfort and weight savings are worth it. Others reasonably reach a different conclusion. If you're going to be driven to distraction by the thought of a down bag getting wet go with the synthetic. D.G. On Apr 26, 10:06 am, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: On Apr 26, 9:13 am, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: I have a big rack on my Sam which supports my commuting panniers nicely. I haven't toured with it yet, but it would easily fit one of the newer therma-rest pads. The NeoAir for example is 4 X 9 packed and could go in a pannier or sit on top. 4 inches x 9 inches? How wide and long is it when it is inflated? A down sleeping bag in a waterproof stuff sack would sit up their easily as well. I have already moved in this direction for backpacking gear to save weight and space as a down sleeping bag packs down to about the size of a loaf of bread In my opinion, down is only appropriate for snowy climates. If you get down wet, it won't work anymore. The first time you ever try to wash and then dry a down sleeping bag or jacket, you will realize the world of hurt you will be in if you get one wet. They take longer than a week to dry out. If the horseshoe continues to perplex look at a Bruce Gordon rack. No horseshoe there. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Sent from my mobile device -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: nitto big rack question
Many front racks incorporate similar features. They serve two functions. First, they are a handy place to strap things. Second, they stop things on top of the rack from falling on to, and interefering with, the front brake. On Apr 26, 7:53 am, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, It seems to me that the horse shoe shaped portion that juts upward on the seat stay end of the rack would just get in the way when trying to strap things onto the rack. For instance, my Therm-a-Rest mattress is 25 inches wide. If I strapped it onto the rack, it would protrude 10 inches off the back. It seems to me that if the upward jutting horseshoe portion wasn't there, I could slide the mattress all the way up against the seat stays so that less of the mattress protruded off the end of the rack. Why was the rack designed that way? Has anyone toured with the Nitto Big Rack? What did you think of it? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: nitto big rack question
Oh, and for loaded touring, I prefer a plain lowrider with a bar bag. On Apr 26, 8:13 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Many front racks incorporate similar features. They serve two functions. First, they are a handy place to strap things. Second, they stop things on top of the rack from falling on to, and interefering with, the front brake. On Apr 26, 7:53 am, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, It seems to me that the horse shoe shaped portion that juts upward on the seat stay end of the rack would just get in the way when trying to strap things onto the rack. For instance, my Therm-a-Rest mattress is 25 inches wide. If I strapped it onto the rack, it would protrude 10 inches off the back. It seems to me that if the upward jutting horseshoe portion wasn't there, I could slide the mattress all the way up against the seat stays so that less of the mattress protruded off the end of the rack. Why was the rack designed that way? Has anyone toured with the Nitto Big Rack? What did you think of it? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: nitto big rack question
The loop does not have as much practical value when using the rack on the back of the bike as the struts provide support and protect the rear brake. If you are lucky enough to have a bike with rack mount studs on top of the fork crown, it would not be necessary up front, either. I think Ray is correct about lateral bracing. Most front racks I have seen without the loop are rated lower for weight than those that have one. On Apr 26, 8:54 am, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I have toured with the rack, as well as using it locally and for commuting from time to time. You are absolutely correct. That loop does interfere with packing objects onto the top of the rack, as well as interfere with some saddlebags hanging from the seat. I have often considered cutting it off, just haven't. I'm guessing that its function is to give some lateral bracing to the rack, and perhaps protect the brake hanger. I guess … From: happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, April 26, 2010 5:53:45 AM Subject: [RBW] nitto big rack question Hi, It seems to me that the horse shoe shaped portion that juts upward on the seat stay end of the rack would just get in the way when trying to strap things onto the rack. For instance, my Therm-a-Rest mattress is 25 inches wide. If I strapped it onto the rack, it would protrude 10 inches off the back. It seems to me that if the upward jutting horseshoe portion wasn't there, I could slide the mattress all the way up against the seat stays so that less of the mattress protruded off the end of the rack. Why was the rack designed that way? Has anyone toured with the Nitto Big Rack? What did you think of it? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: nitto big rack question
I have a big rack on my Sam which supports my commuting panniers nicely. I haven't toured with it yet, but it would easily fit one of the newer therma-rest pads. The NeoAir for example is 4 X 9 packed and could go in a pannier or sit on top. A down sleeping bag in a waterproof stuff sack would sit up their easily as well. I have already moved in this direction for backpacking gear to save weight and space as a down sleeping bag packs down to about the size of a loaf of bread and I can fit both the mattress and the pad in the sleeping bag compartment of my pack and use the pad loops to hold my tent (which is usually wet) on the outside of the pack. No one wants to go spend their fun tickets on gear when they have a perfectly suitable mattress and sleeping bag that has served them well, but the stuff is out there. If the horseshoe continues to perplex look at a Bruce Gordon rack. No horseshoe there. D.G. On Apr 26, 6:53 am, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, It seems to me that the horse shoe shaped portion that juts upward on the seat stay end of the rack would just get in the way when trying to strap things onto the rack. For instance, my Therm-a-Rest mattress is 25 inches wide. If I strapped it onto the rack, it would protrude 10 inches off the back. It seems to me that if the upward jutting horseshoe portion wasn't there, I could slide the mattress all the way up against the seat stays so that less of the mattress protruded off the end of the rack. Why was the rack designed that way? Has anyone toured with the Nitto Big Rack? What did you think of it? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: nitto big rack question
Believe you are referring to the B Gordon High Mount rack: http://bgcycles.com/racks.html BG does some interesting things with that rack. It attached both at the drop out and mid fork mount. It also sets further back on the fork than most front racks. For the right bike, it is a great design. On Apr 26, 10:13 am, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: I have a big rack on my Sam which supports my commuting panniers nicely. I haven't toured with it yet, but it would easily fit one of the newer therma-rest pads. The NeoAir for example is 4 X 9 packed and could go in a pannier or sit on top. A down sleeping bag in a waterproof stuff sack would sit up their easily as well. I have already moved in this direction for backpacking gear to save weight and space as a down sleeping bag packs down to about the size of a loaf of bread and I can fit both the mattress and the pad in the sleeping bag compartment of my pack and use the pad loops to hold my tent (which is usually wet) on the outside of the pack. No one wants to go spend their fun tickets on gear when they have a perfectly suitable mattress and sleeping bag that has served them well, but the stuff is out there. If the horseshoe continues to perplex look at a Bruce Gordon rack. No horseshoe there. D.G. On Apr 26, 6:53 am, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, It seems to me that the horse shoe shaped portion that juts upward on the seat stay end of the rack would just get in the way when trying to strap things onto the rack. For instance, my Therm-a-Rest mattress is 25 inches wide. If I strapped it onto the rack, it would protrude 10 inches off the back. It seems to me that if the upward jutting horseshoe portion wasn't there, I could slide the mattress all the way up against the seat stays so that less of the mattress protruded off the end of the rack. Why was the rack designed that way? Has anyone toured with the Nitto Big Rack? What did you think of it? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: nitto big rack question
On Apr 26, 9:13 am, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: I have a big rack on my Sam which supports my commuting panniers nicely. I haven't toured with it yet, but it would easily fit one of the newer therma-rest pads. The NeoAir for example is 4 X 9 packed and could go in a pannier or sit on top. 4 inches x 9 inches? How wide and long is it when it is inflated? A down sleeping bag in a waterproof stuff sack would sit up their easily as well. I have already moved in this direction for backpacking gear to save weight and space as a down sleeping bag packs down to about the size of a loaf of bread In my opinion, down is only appropriate for snowy climates. If you get down wet, it won't work anymore. The first time you ever try to wash and then dry a down sleeping bag or jacket, you will realize the world of hurt you will be in if you get one wet. They take longer than a week to dry out. If the horseshoe continues to perplex look at a Bruce Gordon rack. No horseshoe there. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: nitto big rack question
The NeoAir inflated is 72 X 20. Agreed that the down sleeping bag is worthless when wet which is why a waterproof stuff-sack is mandatory. I've backpacked, sea kayaked, biked and river rafted in miserable wet weather in the Rockies and Alaska, and never had a problem. That said you do need to be thoughtful about packing it and keeping it dry and you need a very high degree of confidence in your tent. A down sleeping bag will also last much longer than a comparable synthetic (I put the lifespan of a heavily used synthetic at around 5 years, even if kept in a storage bag). For me the comfort and weight savings are worth it. Others reasonably reach a different conclusion. If you're going to be driven to distraction by the thought of a down bag getting wet go with the synthetic. D.G. On Apr 26, 10:06 am, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: On Apr 26, 9:13 am, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: I have a big rack on my Sam which supports my commuting panniers nicely. I haven't toured with it yet, but it would easily fit one of the newer therma-rest pads. The NeoAir for example is 4 X 9 packed and could go in a pannier or sit on top. 4 inches x 9 inches? How wide and long is it when it is inflated? A down sleeping bag in a waterproof stuff sack would sit up their easily as well. I have already moved in this direction for backpacking gear to save weight and space as a down sleeping bag packs down to about the size of a loaf of bread In my opinion, down is only appropriate for snowy climates. If you get down wet, it won't work anymore. The first time you ever try to wash and then dry a down sleeping bag or jacket, you will realize the world of hurt you will be in if you get one wet. They take longer than a week to dry out. If the horseshoe continues to perplex look at a Bruce Gordon rack. No horseshoe there. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
