Re: [RBW] Re: stem for albastache help
I use a Nitto Dirt Drop 8 stem with B135 Randonneur bars on my '88 Schwinn KOM (a too-longa-top tube mountain bike, in Grant-speak). I have the bars mounted at seat height, and I spend most of the time down in the drops, so the bars and stem are holding up a significant portion of my 225 lbs. I've been riding it on some pretty rugged stuff over the last 2 years, with plenty of bunny hops and a couple wipeouts that rotated the stem in the steerer. No damage, problems, cracks, or creaks yet. The Dirt Drop stems are forged and heat treated. I'm not sure why Harris has that recommendation; you usually see that caveat for non-heat treated items like Dove bars. On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 3:02 AM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: Huh, I've never heard of that. You may want to contact Harris to be sure, but I suspect it's lawyer-speak for don't do downhills with gigantic drop-offs just because the name has 'dirt' in it. DirtDrops were spec'd on the dropbar Bridgestone MB-1 back in the day, and it was most certainly expected to be ridden on trails. This was before suspension and bicycles being hurtled down hills like motocrossers, so Nitto didn't have that to warn against for their product. On Tuesday, June 30, 2015 at 11:05:33 PM UTC-7, drew wrote: ok, final question. talked with keven yesterday, who recommended the dirt drop. i dont mind the looks, so i was gonna go that way and then read not designed for rugged off road use on the harris cyclery site http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/stems/ , while it says nothing about the regular quill stems from nitto. i assume they dont say that about a technomic because not that many people are gonna use a technomic for rugged off road use. left me wondering 1-if there is significant difference in strength between a regular and a dirt drop? and 2-if the dirt drop is not for rugged off road use, what is a quill stem that is? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: stem for albastache help
Not sure, but the periscopa is similar to the dirt drop, but taller. I've read anywhere it's listed that it's not meant for off road use/rugged use, but I thought the dirt drop is indeed actually meant for that use. Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: stem for albastache help
On Wednesday, July 1, 2015 at 9:21:38 AM UTC-4, EGNolan wrote: Not sure, but the periscopa is similar to the dirt drop, but taller. I've read anywhere it's listed that it's not meant for off road use/rugged use, but I thought the dirt drop is indeed actually meant for that use. Eric Ditto: I think it must've been referring to the periscopa, not the dirt-drop... the dirt-drop IS an offroad stem -L -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: stem for albastache help
Huh, I've never heard of that. You may want to contact Harris to be sure, but I suspect it's lawyer-speak for don't do downhills with gigantic drop-offs just because the name has 'dirt' in it. DirtDrops were spec'd on the dropbar Bridgestone MB-1 back in the day, and it was most certainly expected to be ridden on trails. This was before suspension and bicycles being hurtled down hills like motocrossers, so Nitto didn't have that to warn against for their product. On Tuesday, June 30, 2015 at 11:05:33 PM UTC-7, drew wrote: ok, final question. talked with keven yesterday, who recommended the dirt drop. i dont mind the looks, so i was gonna go that way and then read not designed for rugged off road use on the harris cyclery site http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/stems/ , while it says nothing about the regular quill stems from nitto. i assume they dont say that about a technomic because not that many people are gonna use a technomic for rugged off road use. left me wondering 1-if there is significant difference in strength between a regular and a dirt drop? and 2-if the dirt drop is not for rugged off road use, what is a quill stem that is? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: stem for albastache help
ok, final question. talked with keven yesterday, who recommended the dirt drop. i dont mind the looks, so i was gonna go that way and then read not designed for rugged off road use on the harris cyclery site http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/stems/ , while it says nothing about the regular quill stems from nitto. i assume they dont say that about a technomic because not that many people are gonna use a technomic for rugged off road use. left me wondering 1-if there is significant difference in strength between a regular and a dirt drop? and 2-if the dirt drop is not for rugged off road use, what is a quill stem that is? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: stem for albastache help
thanks guys, that makes sense. john, are you using an 8cm dirt drop or tallux stem? On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 6:16:23 PM UTC-7, drew wrote: ok. going to take the albastache plunge. what has been working well for me (though slightly less aggressive and comfortable climbing) are albatross bars with a 11cm tallux set at about saddle height. wondering what sort of stem i should pair with the albastache that will give a similar height and reach. dirt drop seems like the choice, but im not sure about the length. then again ive seen people use these with short traditional stems too. is there math that can be done, or is this more of a try it and see situation? THANKS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: stem for albastache help
Drew I've got an 8 cm technomic if you'd like to start w/ something a bit cheaper; I'd sell for $35 shipped. (can be seen here https://www.flickr.com/photos/ericgnolan/.) Best Eric Indpls On Sunday, June 28, 2015 at 2:29:52 AM UTC-4, drew wrote: thanks guys, that makes sense. john, are you using an 8cm dirt drop or tallux stem? On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 6:16:23 PM UTC-7, drew wrote: ok. going to take the albastache plunge. what has been working well for me (though slightly less aggressive and comfortable climbing) are albatross bars with a 11cm tallux set at about saddle height. wondering what sort of stem i should pair with the albastache that will give a similar height and reach. dirt drop seems like the choice, but im not sure about the length. then again ive seen people use these with short traditional stems too. is there math that can be done, or is this more of a try it and see situation? THANKS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: stem for albastache help
Drew, I went with the 8cm Tallux from Riv (http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/st1.htm). At the risk of sounding superficial, the decision was more aesthetic than functional. I thought about the dirt drop but I like, what I consider, the more iconic look of the tallux (my 11cm is the Technomic Deluxe which is very nice). I just like the look of that style of stem on the Hillborne much more than the dirt drop. Plus, I didn't foresee any situations where the pointy bit might cause a problem for me. Soon after buying the albastache cockpit, I shed the fenders and put Smart Sams on and have been hitting the trails a lot more often. I might have rethought the dirt drop for that but still don't foresee a problem with the tallux. Very pleased how it turned out. https://www.flickr.com/photos/129545862@N03/19238298132/in/dateposted-public/ Enjoy the albastache! John On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 11:29:52 PM UTC-7, drew wrote: thanks guys, that makes sense. john, are you using an 8cm dirt drop or tallux stem? On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 6:16:23 PM UTC-7, drew wrote: ok. going to take the albastache plunge. what has been working well for me (though slightly less aggressive and comfortable climbing) are albatross bars with a 11cm tallux set at about saddle height. wondering what sort of stem i should pair with the albastache that will give a similar height and reach. dirt drop seems like the choice, but im not sure about the length. then again ive seen people use these with short traditional stems too. is there math that can be done, or is this more of a try it and see situation? THANKS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: stem for albastache help
to echo other comments here, i use 8cm for my albatrache, 10 or 11cm for my ablatross. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: stem for albastache help
I had an 11 Tallux on my Albatross so Sean at Rivendell recommended the 8 for the Albastache. He was spot on. It has worked out perfectly. John On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 6:16:23 PM UTC-7, drew wrote: ok. going to take the albastache plunge. what has been working well for me (though slightly less aggressive and comfortable climbing) are albatross bars with a 11cm tallux set at about saddle height. wondering what sort of stem i should pair with the albastache that will give a similar height and reach. dirt drop seems like the choice, but im not sure about the length. then again ive seen people use these with short traditional stems too. is there math that can be done, or is this more of a try it and see situation? THANKS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
