Re: [RBW] S24O Packing securing load
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 4:16 AM, opa...@gmail.com opa...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking for how-to tips, tricks, guide, (good pictures would be very helpful) for packing and securing a S24O load on my Riv. I've tried to make out details from the tiny pictures on Riv's site but they simply aren't close-up enough. I have an Atlantis, front Wald basket, rear IRC rack, and a Carradice Nelson longflap. Plan on carrying sleeping pad bag, small tent, usual accoutrements for a one night outing. After the latest (way fun) S24O, I've come to the conclusion that while I love my Large Saddlesack for everyday use and will continue to leave it mounted on my knock-around Atlantis, I prefer panniers for touring, even for just an overnight. The panniers are easier to pack and unpack, hold more, mount and dismount easily, and are waterproof. With the Saddlesack and a front handlebar bag, I had to just jam everything in higgledy piggledy, while with panniers, I can separate the food and cooking equipment from the clothing and camping equipment. I can put the food pannier in the food locker or hang it, and take the camping panniers into the tent, instead of having to carry out clothing, sleeping bag and pad one by one to the Saddlesack. The Saddlesack/Brand-V front bag combo was jammed with stuff just for our little overnight, and the tent had to be strapped on the top, though I just brought what for me is a bare minimum: tent, pad, sleeping bag, long pants, long shirt, wooly hat, sweater, jacket, stove, food, cup, spoon. I didn't even bring a clean pair of shorts for the next day. The next time I do an S24O, it will be colder so I'll need more clothes, and they won't fit. My Ortlieb panniers mount and dismount in seconds, whereas I pretty much have to leave the Saddlesack mounted, leaving it vulnerable to raccoon investigation. Right now I have a nice raccoon handprint on the Saddlesack, which in itself is no problem, but raccoon claws and raccoon teeth can put holes in cloth bags. The Ortliebs are completely and utterly waterproof. The Saddlesack and the Brand V bag aren't. So my advice for an S24O is to use panniers. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] S24O Packing securing load
I tried out an adjustable bungee cord for securing my tent on top of my rear rack for my latest trip (this past weekend). I thought it did a better job than other solutions I'd tried, which mainly involved a cargo net and many smaller bungee cords. Here's the one I used: http://www.amazon.com/Master-Lock-3039DAT-CamLok-Adjustable/dp/B0009V1WUM On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 4:16 AM, opa...@gmail.com opa...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking for how-to tips, tricks, guide, (good pictures would be very helpful) for packing and securing a S24O load on my Riv. I've tried to make out details from the tiny pictures on Riv's site but they simply aren't close-up enough. I have an Atlantis, front Wald basket, rear IRC rack, and a Carradice Nelson longflap. Plan on carrying sleeping pad bag, small tent, usual accoutrements for a one night outing. No, I don't have anyone nearby that does S240's or, touring, for that matter, to learn from. I discovered quickly that while I can pack a car tight tidy for a vacation, loading a bike up is another matter. For instance, if I move the tent to just behind the seat on the rear rack, and then put the Carradice bag behind it (for easy access) - how do I attach the bag to the rack? (it normally attaches to the seat)..for that matter what is the standard way to secure big stuff to the rack when not using panniers? Bungee cords?...3/8 braided rope?...giant velcro strips? By the way I'm looking for neat, simple ways, not massive ugly knots etc. Cheers, Robert Opalko -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/lVzckR7K1Q4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] S24O Packing securing load
I'm looking for how-to tips, tricks, guide, (good pictures would be very helpful) for packing and securing a S24O load on my Riv. I've tried to make out details from the tiny pictures on Riv's site but they simply aren't close-up enough. I have an Atlantis, front Wald basket, rear IRC rack, and a Carradice Nelson longflap. Plan on carrying sleeping pad bag, small tent, usual accoutrements for a one night outing. No, I don't have anyone nearby that does S240's or, touring, for that matter, to learn from. I discovered quickly that while I can pack a car tight tidy for a vacation, loading a bike up is another matter. For instance, if I move the tent to just behind the seat on the rear rack, and then put the Carradice bag behind it (for easy access) - how do I attach the bag to the rack? (it normally attaches to the seat)..for that matter what is the standard way to secure big stuff to the rack when not using panniers? Bungee cords?...3/8 braided rope?...giant velcro strips? By the way I'm looking for neat, simple ways, not massive ugly knots etc. Cheers, Robert Opalko -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/lVzckR7K1Q4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] S24O Packing securing load
I am packing for an s24o this weekend for he first time and what worked for me is to still attach the bag normally but not run the closing straps through both sides of the buckle. Basically, just enough to close them and have the metal bit go into the hole. Then have the tent strapped behind the bag. I am still able to get in the bag and it is still closed but it definitely isn't as easy to get in. I have my sleeping pad strapped around the tent and it is pretty stable. I would suggest your main thoughts on packing should be about making it stable as the primary goal and convenient for the things you have to have convenient. Btw, I think most folks use a handlebar bag for he stuff they want access to on the road. I was planning to have some clothes and my cooking stuff in the saddlebag. I haven't done much more than a ride to work with my setup. Hopefully others on the list will respond with sage advice. Stephen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/7pVNwnEmMOEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] S24O Packing securing load
Oh and I am using lots of bungee cords to make sure it s tight. Stephen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/N2Le9eYjlZoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
