Re: [RBW] Smaller Riv sizing

['pb' via RBW Owners Bunch]

On Sunday, July 3, 2016 at 3:14:36 AM UTC-7, Matt B. wrote:
>
> PBH - 25cm for a fistful of seat post and if you want the bars anywhere 
> near saddle height.


That's precisely consistent with my own experience.  For anybody who wants 
another source of data, I have a lot of respect for the Competitive Cyclist 
fit calculator.

http://www.competitivecyclist.com/Store/catalog/fitCalculatorBike.jsp

That calculator refers to three fit styles - competitive (contemporary 
race), Eddy (traditional race), and French.  I would think that the French 
fit would suit many Riv riders (as it does me).  Even for those who want 
high bars, it should get the frame size relative to saddle height about 
right, and should get top tube length about right.  Upright bars with back 
sweep, I have no idea.  

~pb

 

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Re: [RBW] Smaller Riv sizing

[Matt B.]

It's probably better to go by reach, stack and STA nowadays if you know what 
you like.  But on more traditional bikes with levelish top tubes like Riv used 
to do, or especially vintage bikes i.e. with no HT extension, it's PBH - 25cm 
for a fistful of seat post and if you want the bars anywhere near saddle 
height. It does say this somewhere on Riv's website but I can't find it.   

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Re: [RBW] Smaller Riv sizing

[Joe Bernard]

Steve, "51" for an upslope Riv is kind of deceiving. Back in the day of 
level-ish toptubes, Grant would have put me on a 53/54/55 bike. The 51 
Appaloosa has a virtual toptube of 56.5cm, which, in my opinion, is the better 
way to list its size. Sizing upslope frames by actual seattube length doesn't 
tell you anything but standover height. 

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Re: [RBW] Smaller Riv sizing

[Andrew Huston]

So much good input, seems like nothing can beat throwing a leg over one. Any 
Michigan Riv folks in this size range willing to offer test rides?  I'm likely 
to make a trip to MD soon. James has been great offering his time to help me 
figure it out. This forum is really a great resource with vast knowledge. Kudos 
to you all for the help. Quite a group. 

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Re: [RBW] Smaller Riv sizing

[René Sterental]

The first Bombadil I had was too large for me. Ended with a 58 Hunqapillar
of the gray version. It was a 60cm frame.

René

On Saturday, July 2, 2016, Steve Palincsar  wrote:

>
>
> On 07/02/2016 09:57 PM, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I'm on the "go big" side. At 5'-7" with a 71cm saddle height, I never
>> would have predicted I could ride a 51 Appaloosa with drops, but the one I
>> rode at RBW was perfect. So I bought it!
>>
>>
> I'm confused.  Since when is a 51 cm bike "big"?   Sounds to me like
> you're saying "Go small."
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Re: [RBW] Smaller Riv sizing

[Steve Palincsar]

On 07/02/2016 09:57 PM, Joe Bernard wrote:

I'm on the "go big" side. At 5'-7" with a 71cm saddle height, I never would 
have predicted I could ride a 51 Appaloosa with drops, but the one I rode at RBW was perfect. 
So I bought it!



I'm confused.  Since when is a 51 cm bike "big"?   Sounds to me like 
you're saying "Go small."


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Re: [RBW] Smaller Riv sizing

[Joe Bernard]

I'm on the "go big" side. At 5'-7" with a 71cm saddle height, I never would 
have predicted I could ride a 51 Appaloosa with drops, but the one I rode at 
RBW was perfect. So I bought it!

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Re: [RBW] Smaller Riv sizing

[iamkeith]

Funny - it might be my selective memory but I kind of recall that, in years 
past, it was the exact opposite:  I seem to remember lots of people saying 
"Riv told me to get a bigger size than I'm used to, and now I wish I would 
have listened."  I think the shift to the "expanded sizing" & more sloped 
top tubes has made a big enough difference that it's harder to gauge 
without trying in person.   I know it does for me - even (or especially) 
with fewer sizes to choose from.  Was the Bombadil the first to use the new 
system, or was the Sam Hillbourne? - can't remember, but I've been unable 
to make the leap, despite wanting to at a couple of times.  

On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 5:29:10 PM UTC-6, islaysteve wrote:
>
> It seems like there have been a number of Rivs listed for sale here by 
> owners who indicate that they a just a bit too large.  Personally, I am 
> small; 5'5 and I believe my PBH is about 79, I haven't measured in a while. 
>  According to the published chart, I should be on a 53 Bleriot.  However, 
> my 51 Bleriot fits perfectly IMO (drop bars). I can just comfortably stand 
> over it.  I would not want to buy a particular model Rivendell without 
> riding it first.  Fortunately, there are some dealers around the country 
> now.  Cheers,
> Steve

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Re: [RBW] Smaller Riv sizing

[islaysteve]

It seems like there have been a number of Rivs listed for sale here by owners 
who indicate that they a just a bit too large.  Personally, I am small; 5'5 and 
I believe my PBH is about 79, I haven't measured in a while.  According to the 
published chart, I should be on a 53 Bleriot.  However, my 51 Bleriot fits 
perfectly IMO (drop bars). I can just comfortably stand over it.  I would not 
want to buy a particular model Rivendell without riding it first.  Fortunately, 
there are some dealers around the country now.  Cheers,
Steve

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Re: [RBW] Smaller Riv sizing

[Bill Lindsay]

In my opinion, 88 PBH would do better on a 60 Cheviot. 

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Re: [RBW] Smaller Riv sizing

[Lungimsam]

I have a 52 Sam and a 53 Bleriot. Both fit great but the Sam pushes the limit.
I had a 55 Bleriotwent to the 53.
Small jump so both bikes fit.
I think the main thing is knowing your reach and standover to know if a frame 
will fit.

Fo me I use standover and TT length to size the bike, regardless of TT slope 
because I use drops. I know 80 standover is max and 55 TT c-c is max for me.

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Re: [RBW] Smaller Riv sizing

[Jon in central Colorado]

My pbh is 88. I have a 58 Sam with a 111 stem. Short legs long torso.
Stradling the top tube of my Sam,I'm just touching the top tube.Very 
comfortable on my Sam.
Would I be better off with a 55 Cheviot or a 60??

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Re: [RBW] Smaller Riv sizing

[iamkeith]

I don't have any Rivs with the 6 degree top tube (other than the clem which 
is different because it only comes in three sizes which are thus meant to 
take a HUGE range of riders for each), but my gut says that 56 would indeed 
be too big for you.   That size is directly comparable to the 61cm, 3 
degree frames that René mentions, in terms of top tube length and ideal 
fit.  It'll just have a lot more standover clearance. (For reference, I'm 
6'2" with a long torso, and the 56 is the size I'd get - and I prefer bikes 
on the "big" side.  In fact, it would be perfect because it would give me 
the length I need for my upper body, with the low straddle height I need 
for my short legs.)  

Similarly, a 52cm Hillbourne might be equivalent to about a 57cm Homer or 
Atlantis, if they existed.

Here's a link to the old geometry tables for comparison, which still have 
those old Sam Hillbourne sizes:  
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gfiN1kOxVrthdc6eScUF9fP5n-BvRBILbBMYiEg5LM4/edit?pref=2=1#gid=0

Also,  here's a thread in which Grant talks about the Hillbourne sizing 
conversion:   
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/rbw-owners-bunch/_pGj9VCTu0E/JB3_bX-YOr4J

On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 11:34:49 AM UTC-6, René wrote:
>
> I'm 5'11", barely 1" taller, yet my saddle height is 77-78, depending on 
> the shoes I wear. I guess my torso is shorter comparatively, yet I have 
> long arms. My stock original Homer configuration from RBW had me on an 8cm 
> stem on Noodles, which felt too far out no matter how much I raised the 
> handlebars. I now use a 5 cm stem at about saddle height or slightly 
> higher. 
>
> When I bought my Betty, Keven insisted I get the larger 61 or whatever 
> that size was, but I went with the 58 so my daughter's could also ride it. 
> It fits me perfectly. 
>
> The 61 Homer and Atlantis are fine vertically, but need the shorter stems 
> for classic drop bars. I have a 6cm stem on the Atlantis now. Thankfully I 
> could find those shorter reach Nitto stems. For upright rear-reaching bars, 
> the sizing is perfect. 
>
> Agree that fine tuning the sizing based on the intended configuration is 
> needed in many cases and default RBW sizing recommendations are for upright 
> riding handlebars. 
>
> René
>
> On Saturday, July 2, 2016, Andrew Huston  > wrote:
>
>> Yes. My PBH is 84. I wear a 30 inseam in pants. Saddle height measured in 
>> my MB6 and Jonesis 70cm. I'm gauging that my saddle height may indicate 
>> longer torso than legs, 5'10" btw. I'm not sure if this all adds up but 
>> I've measured multiple times and this is what I get.
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Re: [RBW] Smaller Riv sizing

[iamkeith]

I don't have any rivs with the 6 degree top tube (other than the clem which 
is different because it only comes in three sizes which are thus meant to 
take a HUGE range of riders for each), but my gut says that 56 would indeed 
be too big for you.   That size is directly comparable to the 61cm, 3 
degree frames that René mentions, in terms of top tube length and ideal 
fit.  It just have a lot more standover room.   Similarly, a 52cm 
Hillbourne might be equivalent to about a 57cm Homer or Atlantis, if they 
existed.

Here's a link to the old geometry tables for comparison, which still have 
those old Sam Hillbourne sizes: 
 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gfiN1kOxVrthdc6eScUF9fP5n-BvRBILbBMYiEg5LM4/edit?pref=2=1#gid=0

Also,  here's a thread in which Grant talks about the Hillbourne sizing 
conversion:   
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/rbw-owners-bunch/_pGj9VCTu0E/JB3_bX-YOr4J 

On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 11:34:49 AM UTC-6, René wrote:
>
> I'm 5'11", barely 1" taller, yet my saddle height is 77-78, depending on 
> the shoes I wear. I guess my torso is shorter comparatively, yet I have 
> long arms. My stock original Homer configuration from RBW had me on an 8cm 
> stem on Noodles, which felt too far out no matter how much I raised the 
> handlebars. I now use a 5 cm stem at about saddle height or slightly 
> higher. 
>
> When I bought my Betty, Keven insisted I get the larger 61 or whatever 
> that size was, but I went with the 58 so my daughter's could also ride it. 
> It fits me perfectly. 
>
> The 61 Homer and Atlantis are fine vertically, but need the shorter stems 
> for classic drop bars. I have a 6cm stem on the Atlantis now. Thankfully I 
> could find those shorter reach Nitto stems. For upright rear-reaching bars, 
> the sizing is perfect. 
>
> Agree that fine tuning the sizing based on the intended configuration is 
> needed in many cases and default RBW sizing recommendations are for upright 
> riding handlebars. 
>
> René
>
> On Saturday, July 2, 2016, Andrew Huston  > wrote:
>
>> Yes. My PBH is 84. I wear a 30 inseam in pants. Saddle height measured in 
>> my MB6 and Jonesis 70cm. I'm gauging that my saddle height may indicate 
>> longer torso than legs, 5'10" btw. I'm not sure if this all adds up but 
>> I've measured multiple times and this is what I get.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Smaller Riv sizing

[Gravel & Grind Espresso + Bikes]

Hey Andrew,  James here from Gravel & Grind.   Per our conversation, here's 
some pics of a Joe App 51 mocked up as we talked about.  The guy I used is 
5 10 with a 83.75 pbh.  He described the position as 'groovy'.  That's a 
Nitto 10cm dirt drop stem, the saddle set to your height and the stem about 
2-3 cm from fully extended.  The last pic is just for reference so you can 
see how much post is exposed.  Totally reasonable, per our conversation 
about mountain bikes.  


-James










On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 1:34:49 PM UTC-4, René wrote:
>
> I'm 5'11", barely 1" taller, yet my saddle height is 77-78, depending on 
> the shoes I wear. I guess my torso is shorter comparatively, yet I have 
> long arms. My stock original Homer configuration from RBW had me on an 8cm 
> stem on Noodles, which felt too far out no matter how much I raised the 
> handlebars. I now use a 5 cm stem at about saddle height or slightly 
> higher. 
>
> When I bought my Betty, Keven insisted I get the larger 61 or whatever 
> that size was, but I went with the 58 so my daughter's could also ride it. 
> It fits me perfectly. 
>
> The 61 Homer and Atlantis are fine vertically, but need the shorter stems 
> for classic drop bars. I have a 6cm stem on the Atlantis now. Thankfully I 
> could find those shorter reach Nitto stems. For upright rear-reaching bars, 
> the sizing is perfect. 
>
> Agree that fine tuning the sizing based on the intended configuration is 
> needed in many cases and default RBW sizing recommendations are for upright 
> riding handlebars. 
>
> René
>
> On Saturday, July 2, 2016, Andrew Huston  > wrote:
>
>> Yes. My PBH is 84. I wear a 30 inseam in pants. Saddle height measured in 
>> my MB6 and Jonesis 70cm. I'm gauging that my saddle height may indicate 
>> longer torso than legs, 5'10" btw. I'm not sure if this all adds up but 
>> I've measured multiple times and this is what I get.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Smaller Riv sizing

[René Sterental]

I'm 5'11", barely 1" taller, yet my saddle height is 77-78, depending on
the shoes I wear. I guess my torso is shorter comparatively, yet I have
long arms. My stock original Homer configuration from RBW had me on an 8cm
stem on Noodles, which felt too far out no matter how much I raised the
handlebars. I now use a 5 cm stem at about saddle height or slightly
higher.

When I bought my Betty, Keven insisted I get the larger 61 or whatever that
size was, but I went with the 58 so my daughter's could also ride it. It
fits me perfectly.

The 61 Homer and Atlantis are fine vertically, but need the shorter stems
for classic drop bars. I have a 6cm stem on the Atlantis now. Thankfully I
could find those shorter reach Nitto stems. For upright rear-reaching bars,
the sizing is perfect.

Agree that fine tuning the sizing based on the intended configuration is
needed in many cases and default RBW sizing recommendations are for upright
riding handlebars.

René

On Saturday, July 2, 2016, Andrew Huston 
wrote:

> Yes. My PBH is 84. I wear a 30 inseam in pants. Saddle height measured in
> my MB6 and Jonesis 70cm. I'm gauging that my saddle height may indicate
> longer torso than legs, 5'10" btw. I'm not sure if this all adds up but
> I've measured multiple times and this is what I get.
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[RBW] Smaller Riv sizing

[Andrew Huston]

Yes. My PBH is 84. I wear a 30 inseam in pants. Saddle height measured in my 
MB6 and Jonesis 70cm. I'm gauging that my saddle height may indicate longer 
torso than legs, 5'10" btw. I'm not sure if this all adds up but I've measured 
multiple times and this is what I get. 

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[RBW] Smaller Riv sizing

[iamkeith]

How tall are you, Andrew, and do you have a notion about your proportions?  
Long limbs / short torso,  vice versa, long legs only, etc.  And your PBH, of 
course.  This would help give you better feedback.

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[RBW] Smaller Riv sizing

[Andrew Huston]

I am curious if anyone in the group has had success opting for a smaller 
size frame than would be suggested by the folks at Rivendell.  I have had a 
difficult time finding comfort on my 56 Sam but the jump down seems rather 
large. Maybe my proportions are ill built for their methods but a bike that 
does not fit will not get ridden.  I am considering an Atlantis or 650b 
Hunq now due to the range of sizing options in my range.  Alternatively, if 
there are any of these sizes out there looking for a new home, I'm on the 
lookout.  

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