[RBW] Test post: I'm RBW Owners Bunch!

[RBW Owners Bunch]

It looks like the latest Google glitch is that everybody's handle is "RBW 
Owners Bunch", at least on my browser.  It seems to be happening partially 
on iBob also.  How do you like your new username?

Bill "RBW Owners Bunch" Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

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Re: [RBW] Test Ride Opportunities in the Midwest (Madison, WI)

[Camden Powell]

I'd be interested in buying either a 52 or *maybe *a 59, but I figure these 
bikes are so unique that any test ride would do me good, even if it's not 
my size.

El lunes, 3 de julio de 2023 a la(s) 5:25:37 p. m. UTC-5, Danny escribió:

> Hey Camden,
>
> I'm local to Madison. What size frame are you looking to ride?
>
> -Danny
>
> On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 3:26 PM Richard Rose  wrote:
>
>> For me it has been a leap of faith. Although, I was at least able to ride 
>> my Clem for about 3 minutes on a very cold January morning. That was all I 
>> needed. And after spending a full year with it I had few doubts regarding 
>> my Gus purchase. Perhaps you can find someone here that is close enough 
>> that you can get a test ride in. I know I would be able to accommodate that 
>> but I am in Toledo, Ohio.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 3, 2023, at 3:42 PM, Camden Powell  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hey folks, 
>>
>> I've been fascinated by Rivendell's designs for a while and as of 
>> recently have been very tempted to order myself a frame. Thing is, I still 
>> have never ridden one, and it seems like quite a big move (for me, at 
>> least) to place an order without riding around a bit first. Is there 
>> anywhere to go in Southern WI to test a bike out? Dealer shops in Chicago 
>> or the Twin Cities that have demo bikes? I've been mainly looking at the 
>> Clem Smith Jr.
>>
>> Has anyone else gotten an opportunity to test a certain model prior to 
>> buying, or is a leap of faith the usual procedure? Would love to hear of 
>> others' experiences.
>>
>> -Camden
>>
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Re: [RBW] Test Ride Opportunities in the Midwest (Madison, WI)

[Danny]

Hey Camden,

I'm local to Madison. What size frame are you looking to ride?

-Danny

On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 3:26 PM Richard Rose  wrote:

> For me it has been a leap of faith. Although, I was at least able to ride
> my Clem for about 3 minutes on a very cold January morning. That was all I
> needed. And after spending a full year with it I had few doubts regarding
> my Gus purchase. Perhaps you can find someone here that is close enough
> that you can get a test ride in. I know I would be able to accommodate that
> but I am in Toledo, Ohio.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 3, 2023, at 3:42 PM, Camden Powell 
> wrote:
>
> 
> Hey folks,
>
> I've been fascinated by Rivendell's designs for a while and as of recently
> have been very tempted to order myself a frame. Thing is, I still have
> never ridden one, and it seems like quite a big move (for me, at least) to
> place an order without riding around a bit first. Is there anywhere to go
> in Southern WI to test a bike out? Dealer shops in Chicago or the Twin
> Cities that have demo bikes? I've been mainly looking at the Clem Smith Jr.
>
> Has anyone else gotten an opportunity to test a certain model prior to
> buying, or is a leap of faith the usual procedure? Would love to hear of
> others' experiences.
>
> -Camden
>
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Re: [RBW] Test Ride Opportunities in the Midwest (Madison, WI)

[Richard Rose]

For me it has been a leap of faith. Although, I was at least able to ride my Clem for about 3 minutes on a very cold January morning. That was all I needed. And after spending a full year with it I had few doubts regarding my Gus purchase. Perhaps you can find someone here that is close enough that you can get a test ride in. I know I would be able to accommodate that but I am in Toledo, Ohio.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 3, 2023, at 3:42 PM, Camden Powell  wrote:Hey folks, I've been fascinated by Rivendell's designs for a while and as of recently have been very tempted to order myself a frame. Thing is, I still have never ridden one, and it seems like quite a big move (for me, at least) to place an order without riding around a bit first. Is there anywhere to go in Southern WI to test a bike out? Dealer shops in Chicago or the Twin Cities that have demo bikes? I've been mainly looking at the Clem Smith Jr.Has anyone else gotten an opportunity to test a certain model prior to buying, or is a leap of faith the usual procedure? Would love to hear of others' experiences.-Camden



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[RBW] Test Ride Opportunities in the Midwest (Madison, WI)

[Camden Powell]

Hey folks, 

I've been fascinated by Rivendell's designs for a while and as of recently 
have been very tempted to order myself a frame. Thing is, I still have 
never ridden one, and it seems like quite a big move (for me, at least) to 
place an order without riding around a bit first. Is there anywhere to go 
in Southern WI to test a bike out? Dealer shops in Chicago or the Twin 
Cities that have demo bikes? I've been mainly looking at the Clem Smith Jr.

Has anyone else gotten an opportunity to test a certain model prior to 
buying, or is a leap of faith the usual procedure? Would love to hear of 
others' experiences.

-Camden


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[RBW] Test

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I posted a message that was bounced back, running a test here
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Re: [RBW] Test-ride in Asheville

[James Copp]

Hi Sam,
I would indeed like to try to test ride it. When might that work for you? I
live over by Hole donuts.

James
401.419.1544

On Mon, Sep 5, 2022 at 10:07 PM Sam Wanless  wrote:

> James,
>
> I have a waterford built AHH in a 65cm, in W. AVL. Doesn't *exactly* fit
> your criteria, but if you want to throw your leg over it your more than
> welcome to.
>
> sam w
> asheville, nc
>
> On Sunday, September 4, 2022 at 1:27:05 PM UTC-4 Steven Sweedler wrote:
>
>> James, I also have the same pbh and saddle height and long arms. I traded
>> for an older 64 Atlantis (single tt) and thought it was a bit large for the
>> rough stuff I like to ride. Little to no standover clearance. Sold it but
>> did not seek out a 61. Moved to frames with 559 wheels. Steve
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 4, 2022 at 8:17 AM James  wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone live in Asheville, NC and have an old-model Atlantis I could
>>> test ride, in either a 61cm or 64cm?  I want to start a search to buy one
>>> but it's hard to find conviction on what size I would prefer by simply
>>> looking at charts online.
>>>
>>> (I have a PBH of 91 and a saddle height of 81, with longer than average
>>> arms if anyone has input.  My 63 Toyo AHH fits great and the 62 Appaloosa
>>> works but is a touch too big.)
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Re: [RBW] Test-ride in Asheville

[Sam Wanless]

James,

I have a waterford built AHH in a 65cm, in W. AVL. Doesn't *exactly* fit 
your criteria, but if you want to throw your leg over it your more than 
welcome to. 

sam w
asheville, nc

On Sunday, September 4, 2022 at 1:27:05 PM UTC-4 Steven Sweedler wrote:

> James, I also have the same pbh and saddle height and long arms. I traded 
> for an older 64 Atlantis (single tt) and thought it was a bit large for the 
> rough stuff I like to ride. Little to no standover clearance. Sold it but 
> did not seek out a 61. Moved to frames with 559 wheels. Steve
>
> On Sun, Sep 4, 2022 at 8:17 AM James  wrote:
>
>> Does anyone live in Asheville, NC and have an old-model Atlantis I could 
>> test ride, in either a 61cm or 64cm?  I want to start a search to buy one 
>> but it's hard to find conviction on what size I would prefer by simply 
>> looking at charts online.  
>>
>> (I have a PBH of 91 and a saddle height of 81, with longer than average 
>> arms if anyone has input.  My 63 Toyo AHH fits great and the 62 Appaloosa 
>> works but is a touch too big.)
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Re: [RBW] Test-ride in Asheville

[Steven Sweedler]

James, I also have the same pbh and saddle height and long arms. I traded
for an older 64 Atlantis (single tt) and thought it was a bit large for the
rough stuff I like to ride. Little to no standover clearance. Sold it but
did not seek out a 61. Moved to frames with 559 wheels. Steve

On Sun, Sep 4, 2022 at 8:17 AM James  wrote:

> Does anyone live in Asheville, NC and have an old-model Atlantis I could
> test ride, in either a 61cm or 64cm?  I want to start a search to buy one
> but it's hard to find conviction on what size I would prefer by simply
> looking at charts online.
>
> (I have a PBH of 91 and a saddle height of 81, with longer than average
> arms if anyone has input.  My 63 Toyo AHH fits great and the 62 Appaloosa
> works but is a touch too big.)
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[RBW] Test-ride in Asheville

[James]

Does anyone live in Asheville, NC and have an old-model Atlantis I could 
test ride, in either a 61cm or 64cm?  I want to start a search to buy one 
but it's hard to find conviction on what size I would prefer by simply 
looking at charts online.  

(I have a PBH of 91 and a saddle height of 81, with longer than average 
arms if anyone has input.  My 63 Toyo AHH fits great and the 62 Appaloosa 
works but is a touch too big.)

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[RBW] Test; please ignore

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[RBW] Test, please ignore

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[RBW] Test ride 58cm Atlantis or Hunqapillar in New York City?

[John W]

Thanks Michael. I’m actually looking specifically to test ride the Atlantis (or 
Hunq) to test the frame and fit  qualities. I’d be a 58 in the Atlantis or 
maybe an equivalent 53 in the Hunq for starters. 

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[RBW] Test ride 58cm Atlantis or Hunqapillar in New York City?

[Michael Morrissey]

I have the 55 Appaloosa. I'll let you test ride it. The Hunq runs smaller. A 53 
or 56 is equivalent to the 58 Atlantis, I believe. 

Have you tried 718 Cycles?

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[RBW] Test ride 58cm Atlantis or Hunqapillar in New York City?

[John W]

Leaning toward the Atlantis, but Hunq curious, too. I'm 6' tall, mostly 
torso, and I think a 58cm is a good compromise for a test ride.

If anyone has one I'll bring along coffee or beer in return for a couple of 
laps in the park.

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[RBW] Test Ride Homer Hilsen 54cm or 56cm in Virginia/DC/Maryland?

[Philip Kim]

Hi,

Would like to see if anyone has a 54cm or 56cm Homer Hilsen that I could 
test ride in Virginia, Maryland or DC?

Thanks!

Phil in DC

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[RBW] Test Ride Tire Rentals in the Bay Area: Standard Rat Trap Pass

[Bill Lindsay]

So, in a fit of enthusiasm I bought a set of Standard Rat Trap Pass tires 
for my Bosco Bike.  Those of us who think a Bosco Cockpit is antithetical 
to performance, might think it was stupid to buy $60 tires for a Bosco 
Bike.  But, hey, I'm a tire guy.  I love buying tires and I think every 
bike deserves nice tires.  

Anyway the performance benefits for the riding I do on that Bosco bike were 
noticeable but admittedly small.  As a side-effect I suffered a big 
usability hit.  My Bosco Bike goes on the roof rack every morning and gets 
ridden home every night.  So the front wheel comes off and goes back on 5 
times a week.  My Bosco Bike has roller-cam brakes and steel fenders. 
 There is no good solution for getting the brakes open enough to clear the 
2.3" tires.  I have a plan for how to correct things, but it will take some 
significant modification of the front brake setup.  I'm going to push that 
off to Winter Project land.  

So, in the meantime, I will revert back to my Soma New Express 1.75" tires. 
 I will then have sitting in my tire box a pair of nearly new Rat Trap Pass 
Standard tires.  So, if you are in the Bay Area and want to try them out, 
let me know.  RBW listers can rent them for free (within reason).  I do 
have a list of tools I need for my new career as Team Mechanic for El 
Cerrito HS, so if you want to sponsor a tool, I would accept.  A voluntary 
(tax deductable) donation to "Friends of El Cerrito Music" would help fund 
the band and would also be appreciated in lieu of rental charges.  I'm 
thinking something like $10 per week is a decent recommended donation.  I'm 
not particularly interested in selling them outright, because I do expect 
to eventually having a setup solution on my bike.  If you really just want 
to try them out for free I won't bad-trip you, I promise.  

Anyway, if you want to try out Rat Trap Passes, let me know.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

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[RBW] Test ride Sam in Dallas?

[Anne Paulson]

I have an online friend who is currently riding an upright bike (some
Trek model, I don't know), riding 5 times a week, and wants to upgrade
to a faster bike. She's willing to spend a good chunk of money, $2000
or so. I'm figuring a Sam might be a good choice (you can get a built
up Sam for $2K, right?). Anyone have a  smaller sized Sam in the
Dallas area that they're willing to offer up for a test ride?

As with most people we advise, she probably won't end up with a
Rivendell bike even though she'd be better off with one. But at least
I gave her the heads-up to make sure the bike she picks allows decent
width tires. So that's something. I was looking at bikes sold by
Richardson Bike Mart, which seems to be a good Dallas shop. There's
this Trek 7.7 FX, that's supposedly a hybrid bike that "rockets along
roads, cruises along bike paths, and even hits dirt roads." The thing
is shod with 25mm tires! Why?

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[RBW] Test ride Sam in Dallas?

[Pondero]

The best I can do is a Quickbeam or a Hilsen in downtown Fort Worth.  Both are 
56cm.  If either of these would be helpful, I'd be willing to meet her 
somewhere.

Chris Johnson
Sanger, Texas

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[RBW] test

[Eddie Flayer]

test

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Re: [RBW] Test Fit Rides

[Kenneth Cote]

Good Day. 

I did the second test drive on the 62 Sam Hillborne this time. Nice fit. 
Will go with the Bosco handlebars. It is being put together for me as I 
speak. Now if my payment to the CC company goes through Riv can get their 
money  I will will be biking to work. Thanks to John in Portland for his 
help  guidance, and to you all for an informative and entertaining site.

On Saturday, January 31, 2015 at 8:07:47 PM UTC-8, James Warren wrote:

 Judging by your 95 cm PBH, 62 cm Hillborne would be good, and 67 cm AHH 
 would probably be a little better.

  

 (The 67 AHH is only effectively about 1 cm bigger feeling compared to the 
 62 Hillborne. This is because the Hillborne's top tube slopes up 6 degrees 
 while the AHH's only slopes up 1.5 degrees. Every degree adds about a 
 centimeter of headlug height.)

  

 Using Albatross's adds some flexibility in the sizing.

  

 I have a 93 cm PBH, and I enjoy my just-a-hair-too-big-for-me 62 cm 
 Hillborne with Albatross bars. It's pretty amazing actually.

 I once rode a 67 AHH for a few minutes, and it is too big for me. A 65 cm 
 AHH is just about perfect for me, and my 64 cm Rambouillet is an ideal drop 
 bar bike for my size. Obviously, I'm only giving you some crude numbers to 
 compare to, since we only have PBH for comparison.

  

 Have fun! You're gonna settle on a great bike.

  

 -JCW

 -Original Message- 
 From: Kenneth Cote 
 Sent: Jan 31, 2015 4:16 PM 
 To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: 
 Subject: [RBW] Test Fit Rides 

 Good Day. Test rode a Sam down in Portland. A little small. John will try 
 to get a 62 up to his stable to try. Looking to find out what size Sam 
 Hillborne or A Homer Hilsen is best fit for me. nearly 75 tall, PBH about 
 95cm, 55years old and want an upright ride, Albatross?. 8mile commute, 20+ 
 mile recreational rides, hope for longer tours as retirement looms. Anyone 
 near Tacoma Wa. willing to lend a bike for a ride around the block?

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Re: [RBW] Test Fit Rides

[John Bennett]

Dear Ken (and anyone in The Great NW),

The 62 Sam has arrived from RBW HQ in Walnut Creek and is now part of the 
Portland Test Center Fleet, along with a 55 and a 58, and every size of 
Cheviot (50-55-60).

The 62 is set up with Bosco bars, a B67 saddle, and fenders. Extremely 
comfortable and practical for winter riding. 

Email me (john-at-rivbike dot com) if you want to come by for a spin. As 
Ken will tell you, it's mostly our garage at this point, but we're sprucing 
it up in the coming weeks. 

Cheers,

John



On Saturday, January 31, 2015 at 8:07:47 PM UTC-8, James Warren wrote:

 Judging by your 95 cm PBH, 62 cm Hillborne would be good, and 67 cm AHH 
 would probably be a little better.

  

 (The 67 AHH is only effectively about 1 cm bigger feeling compared to the 
 62 Hillborne. This is because the Hillborne's top tube slopes up 6 degrees 
 while the AHH's only slopes up 1.5 degrees. Every degree adds about a 
 centimeter of headlug height.)

  

 Using Albatross's adds some flexibility in the sizing.

  

 I have a 93 cm PBH, and I enjoy my just-a-hair-too-big-for-me 62 cm 
 Hillborne with Albatross bars. It's pretty amazing actually.

 I once rode a 67 AHH for a few minutes, and it is too big for me. A 65 cm 
 AHH is just about perfect for me, and my 64 cm Rambouillet is an ideal drop 
 bar bike for my size. Obviously, I'm only giving you some crude numbers to 
 compare to, since we only have PBH for comparison.

  

 Have fun! You're gonna settle on a great bike.

  

 -JCW

 -Original Message- 
 From: Kenneth Cote 
 Sent: Jan 31, 2015 4:16 PM 
 To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: 
 Subject: [RBW] Test Fit Rides 

 Good Day. Test rode a Sam down in Portland. A little small. John will try 
 to get a 62 up to his stable to try. Looking to find out what size Sam 
 Hillborne or A Homer Hilsen is best fit for me. nearly 75 tall, PBH about 
 95cm, 55years old and want an upright ride, Albatross?. 8mile commute, 20+ 
 mile recreational rides, hope for longer tours as retirement looms. Anyone 
 near Tacoma Wa. willing to lend a bike for a ride around the block?

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[RBW] Test Fit Rides

[Kenneth Cote]

Good Day. Test rode a Sam down in Portland. A little small. John will try 
to get a 62 up to his stable to try. Looking to find out what size Sam 
Hillborne or A Homer Hilsen is best fit for me. nearly 75 tall, PBH about 
95cm, 55years old and want an upright ride, Albatross?. 8mile commute, 20+ 
mile recreational rides, hope for longer tours as retirement looms. Anyone 
near Tacoma Wa. willing to lend a bike for a ride around the block?

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Re: [RBW] Test Fit Rides

[Robert F. Harrison]

I'm a 95cm myself, though I'm a wee bit shorter. I ride a 66cm Quickbeam
which is perfect. I also have a 62cm Hunq which is fine as well but shows
more seat post. I ride both with Alba's but used to have mbars on the QB
and have been thinking moving to the Albastache now that my hip is good.

Bigger, up to a point, really is better.

Good luck and I'm sure John will get you fitted just right.

Aloha,

Bob



On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 6:07 PM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net
wrote:

 Judging by your 95 cm PBH, 62 cm Hillborne would be good, and 67 cm AHH
 would probably be a little better.



 (The 67 AHH is only effectively about 1 cm bigger feeling compared to the
 62 Hillborne. This is because the Hillborne's top tube slopes up 6 degrees
 while the AHH's only slopes up 1.5 degrees. Every degree adds about a
 centimeter of headlug height.)



 Using Albatross's adds some flexibility in the sizing.



 I have a 93 cm PBH, and I enjoy my just-a-hair-too-big-for-me 62 cm
 Hillborne with Albatross bars. It's pretty amazing actually.

 I once rode a 67 AHH for a few minutes, and it is too big for me. A 65 cm
 AHH is just about perfect for me, and my 64 cm Rambouillet is an ideal drop
 bar bike for my size. Obviously, I'm only giving you some crude numbers to
 compare to, since we only have PBH for comparison.



 Have fun! You're gonna settle on a great bike.



 -JCW

 -Original Message-
 From: Kenneth Cote
 Sent: Jan 31, 2015 4:16 PM
 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [RBW] Test Fit Rides

 Good Day. Test rode a Sam down in Portland. A little small. John will try
 to get a 62 up to his stable to try. Looking to find out what size Sam
 Hillborne or A Homer Hilsen is best fit for me. nearly 75 tall, PBH about
 95cm, 55years old and want an upright ride, Albatross?. 8mile commute, 20+
 mile recreational rides, hope for longer tours as retirement looms. Anyone
 near Tacoma Wa. willing to lend a bike for a ride around the block?

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Re: [RBW] Test Fit Rides

[James Warren]

When one of the 6-degree sloping bikes is the right size for the rider, it is 
going to naturally show more seatpost than a 2-degree sloping bike would when 
fit right to that same rider. 62 cm Hunq and 66 cm Quickbeam both being the 
right size for the same rider fits the math perfectly. The Hunq's top tube 
slopes 6 degrees and the Quickbeam's top tube slopes 2 degrees. 


On Jan 31, 2015, at 10:06 PM, Robert F. Harrison wrote:

 I'm a 95cm myself, though I'm a wee bit shorter. I ride a 66cm Quickbeam 
 which is perfect. I also have a 62cm Hunq which is fine as well but shows 
 more seat post. I ride both with Alba's but used to have mbars on the QB and 
 have been thinking moving to the Albastache now that my hip is good. 
 
 Bigger, up to a point, really is better. 
 
 Good luck and I'm sure John will get you fitted just right. 
 
 Aloha,
 
 Bob
 
 
 
 On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 6:07 PM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net 
 wrote:
 Judging by your 95 cm PBH, 62 cm Hillborne would be good, and 67 cm AHH would 
 probably be a little better.
 
  
 (The 67 AHH is only effectively about 1 cm bigger feeling compared to the 62 
 Hillborne. This is because the Hillborne's top tube slopes up 6 degrees while 
 the AHH's only slopes up 1.5 degrees. Every degree adds about a centimeter of 
 headlug height.)
 
  
 Using Albatross's adds some flexibility in the sizing.
 
  
 I have a 93 cm PBH, and I enjoy my just-a-hair-too-big-for-me 62 cm Hillborne 
 with Albatross bars. It's pretty amazing actually.
 
 I once rode a 67 AHH for a few minutes, and it is too big for me. A 65 cm AHH 
 is just about perfect for me, and my 64 cm Rambouillet is an ideal drop bar 
 bike for my size. Obviously, I'm only giving you some crude numbers to 
 compare to, since we only have PBH for comparison.
 
  
 Have fun! You're gonna settle on a great bike.
 
  
 -JCW
 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Kenneth Cote 
 Sent: Jan 31, 2015 4:16 PM 
 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
 Subject: [RBW] Test Fit Rides 
 
 Good Day. Test rode a Sam down in Portland. A little small. John will try 
 to get a 62 up to his stable to try. Looking to find out what size Sam 
 Hillborne or A Homer Hilsen is best fit for me. nearly 75 tall, PBH about 
 95cm, 55years old and want an upright ride, Albatross?. 8mile commute, 20+ 
 mile recreational rides, hope for longer tours as retirement looms. Anyone 
 near Tacoma Wa. willing to lend a bike for a ride around the block?
 
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Re: [RBW] Test Fit Rides

[James Warren]

Judging by your 95 cm PBH, 62 cm Hillborne would be good,and 67 cm AHH would probably be a little better.

(The 67 AHH is only effectively about 1 cm bigger feeling compared to the 62 Hillborne. This is because the Hillborne's top tube slopes up 6 degrees while the AHH's only slopes up 1.5 degrees. Every degree adds about a centimeter of headlug height.)

Using Albatross's adds some flexibility in the sizing.

I have a 93 cm PBH, and I enjoy my just-a-hair-too-big-for-me 62 cm Hillborne with Albatross bars. It's pretty amazing actually.
I once rode a 67 AHH for a few minutes, and it is too big for me. A 65 cm AHH is just about perfect for me, andmy 64 cm Rambouillet is an ideal drop bar bike for my size. Obviously, I'm only giving you some crude numbers to compare to, since we only have PBH for comparison.

Have fun! You're gonna settle on a great bike.

-JCW
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[RBW] test ride for a friend

[Rusty Click]

Is there anyone in Pittsburgh commuting distance, who has a Betty or 
Cheviot?  I have finally convinced a good friend and riding partner to 
consider getting her first Riv, but she would like to try riding one before 
making a purchase decision.  She is sure she wants a step through frame, 
and does quite a few bike trips with us.

Thanks,
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Pittsburgh,PA

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[RBW] test

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[RBW] test

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test2

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[RBW] TEST WEBMAIL

[J L]

This is just a test to help me troubleshoot access to this group - sent via
browser based gmail.

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[RBW] Test phone app

[JL]

This is just a test to help me troubleshoot access to the group - sent via 
iphone app

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[RBW] Test

[Rene Sterental]

I've been trying to post twice without success.

Rene

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Re: [RBW] Test

[Lyle Bogart]

seems to have worked.

On 28 July 2011 09:33, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've been trying to post twice without success.

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Re: [RBW] Test

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Thanks! I'll try the long post again...

Sent from my iPhone 4

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[RBW] test - please disregard this message if it gets through

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[RBW] test #2

[Richard]

Jim has been kind enough to let me send another test message.

Jim, thanks for all your suggestions and help.

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[RBW] test

[Richard]

Jim is helping me out with a problem I'm having with postings to the
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So as instructed by Jim, the list administrator, I'm posting this test
message.

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[RBW] Test rode the 48cm Hunq'a

[Ginz]

Hello all,

I stopped by to visit Rivendell on Thursday while passing through on
my San Fran vacation. I was lucky enough to take the 48cm gray and red
Hunqapillar for a spin around the parking lot. I'm 5'4 and I'd say my
76cm PBH (barefoot) was about as low as I'd want to be on that bike.
Any smaller and I'd probably have choose the Atlantis.  The bullmoose
bars had a great, comfortable, heads-up feel.  I'll have to think hard
about whether to replace my techno hardtail with a Hunq'a...

Is anyone planning to use a Hunqapillar for touring? I'm interested to
hear about your setup and plans.

Eric

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[RBW] Test rode a Sam today

[rcnute]

Dang, that bike was fun!  It really shone on a brief patch of gravel/
dirt.  I was sorely tempted to buy it right there.

I also rode a Soma Saga.  Nice enough but the Sam was the better
handling bike by far.

Ryan

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Re: [RBW] Test Ride-O-Rama

[CycloFiend]

More of a writeup on the rides here:

http://ramblings.cyclofiend.com/?p=431

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Re: [RBW] Test Ride-O-Rama

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on 3/28/10 4:36 AM, Ray Shine at r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

Nice work, Jim.  Good spread o' pix.  I was wondering f you have the time to
expand a bit on your impressions of the Foy and the Amos?  I've had my eye
on a Foy for a some time. How do you think it would ride with straight bars
and thumbies, or even Bullmoose and thumbies?

I'm not sure I could definitively extrapolate to straight bars - my bias
would be towards something with a bit of sweep - the new bullmoose bars have
an excellent position for my wrists - a good chunk of sweep.

The albatross bars were a bit enlightening.  I've ridden moustache bars and
find there's a specific angle below horizontal where I can position my
wrists comfortably and pull up pretty strongly for hills.  The albatross
bars were set in precisely the correct angle for me.  Then I was able to use
the forward curve to mimic a straight/mtb bar position.

It seems like I move my hands a lot more now than I used to - not sure I'd
ever be comfy with just a straight bar again.

Hope that's of some help,

- J

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[RBW] Test Ride-O-Rama

[cyclofiend]

Went over to the RBWHQL to pick up my Rich-built QB replacement
wheel, and had a grand time bumping into folks, chatting with Grant,
meeting Harry in person (FINALLY!) and enjoying a series of loops and
circuits around the local streets on a variety of bicycles. Sam
Hillborne, Betty Foy, SOMA San Marco (Amos), and the Roadeo.  Each had
their personality, but all had the Rivendell Ride.  Also got to check
out the newly painted Hunqapillar Prototype frame, looking resplendent
in grey and orange.

Photos appear in this set -
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/sets/72157623592760757/

Enjoy!

- Jim

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Re: [RBW] Test Ride-O-Rama

[Ray Shine]

Nice work, Jim.  Good spread o' pix.  I was wondering f you have the time to 
expand a bit on your impressions of the Foy and the Amos?  I've had my eye on a 
Foy for a some time. How do you think it would ride with straight bars and 
thumbies, or even Bullmoose and thumbies?






From: cyclofiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net
To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 11:21:33 PM
Subject: [RBW] Test Ride-O-Rama

Went over to the RBWHQL to pick up my Rich-built QB replacement
wheel, and had a grand time bumping into folks, chatting with Grant,
meeting Harry in person (FINALLY!) and enjoying a series of loops and
circuits around the local streets on a variety of bicycles. Sam
Hillborne, Betty Foy, SOMA San Marco (Amos), and the Roadeo.  Each had
their personality, but all had the Rivendell Ride.  Also got to check
out the newly painted Hunqapillar Prototype frame, looking resplendent
in grey and orange.

Photos appear in this set -
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/sets/72157623592760757/

Enjoy!

- Jim

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[RBW] test

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