Re: [RBW] The "One Bike" for a featherweight?
You're very welcome Rich ! Life is Good :) On Thursday, July 12, 2018 at 1:55:33 PM UTC-4, RichS wrote: > > Garth, > > You’ve just described my childhood. > > Many thanks, > Rich > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 12, 2018, at 1:43 PM, Garth > > wrote: > > "Way back when" I and everyone else rode whatever you had. You didn't > need anything "special" then, nor do you now. as a teen, I toured on a > middle of the road Trek 6something. The rims were probably narrow Rigidas > and I rode Specialized Touring Turbos in either 27 x 1-1/8 or 1-1/4. The > crank I believe was an SR double with 40/52 rings and a 6 speed 13-28 FW. > I never once thought of changing one damn thing. Riding the big ass hills > of the Mississippi river was no problem loaded with panniers, tent and > sleeping bag. My buddy I rode with brought along his "portable" tape > recorder, yea, the big ass things that took D batteries, and we rocked out > along the way. > > > My neighbors rode their Treks from Rochester to Door Co. Wisconsin every > summer, no panniers, just backpacks yes backpacks. Worked for them > ... back when everyone(men *and* women *and *kids) was strong and tough > as F'n nails, not like whiny "I gotta have this that and the other to help > me" nonsense you see today. Kids played outside, rode their bikes around > town, we played "touch" football every Sunday after or before Vikings > games. "Touch" wasn't very polite or touchy, I tell you that , ha ha :) > > We played outside in the ice 'f'n cold MN winter, walked here and there > and everywhere. Played boot hockey, skitched behind cars when it snowed and > threw snowballs at them. We had tomato fights in people gardens at night > and watched horror movies on TV 'tll the channel went off the air. Yes, > stations used to sign off, "see ya later folks, go to f'n bed cuz all we're > gonna do is emit this annoying tone all night long." > > Oh yeah Gatorade came in bottles, as in GLASS bottles, and it was > fantastic. Pop and beer came in "returnables" , a case of 24 reusable and > returnable bottle of which you paid a minimal deposit for and got back upon > return of the bottles. The bottles were cleaned at the bottler and refilled > and sold again. Everything tasted great out of returnables , it just did > and there is no use trying to explain it. . On weekends I'd go with my Dad > to get gas @ Earls one man service station, back when they really were > service stations. He had a glass door pop machine that didn't take money, > you paid Earl of course, who else is there, duh ? On his chest freezer > with ice cream sandwiches was a kids dream. Gasoline, pop and ice cream > sandwiches all the basics covered . Oh, and KFC down the street too > was a treat. Back when chicken was chicken, and what they didn't sell real > people hand picked the meat off the bones and made sandwiches covered in > home made gravy to sell the next day. > > > ah well . . . . way back when when everything was fresh and new and > special. Going out to eat was a REAL TREAT and infrequent. You could go to > any airport and run around and look at all the planes without assuming > you're a criminal for being born. Flying was a big deal, people wore nice > clothes and were polite. > > Sorry for running about and all stuff happens . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/ZA_JyqGAdrY/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com . > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > . > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] The "One Bike" for a featherweight?
Garth, You’ve just described my childhood. Many thanks, Rich Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 12, 2018, at 1:43 PM, Garth wrote: > > "Way back when" I and everyone else rode whatever you had. You didn't need > anything "special" then, nor do you now. as a teen, I toured on a middle of > the road Trek 6something. The rims were probably narrow Rigidas and I rode > Specialized Touring Turbos in either 27 x 1-1/8 or 1-1/4. The crank I believe > was an SR double with 40/52 rings and a 6 speed 13-28 FW. I never once > thought of changing one damn thing. Riding the big ass hills of the > Mississippi river was no problem loaded with panniers, tent and sleeping bag. > My buddy I rode with brought along his "portable" tape recorder, yea, the big > ass things that took D batteries, and we rocked out along the way. > > > My neighbors rode their Treks from Rochester to Door Co. Wisconsin every > summer, no panniers, just backpacks yes backpacks. Worked for them > ... back when everyone(men and women and kids) was strong and tough as F'n > nails, not like whiny "I gotta have this that and the other to help me" > nonsense you see today. Kids played outside, rode their bikes around town, we > played "touch" football every Sunday after or before Vikings games. "Touch" > wasn't very polite or touchy, I tell you that , ha ha :) > > We played outside in the ice 'f'n cold MN winter, walked here and there and > everywhere. Played boot hockey, skitched behind cars when it snowed and threw > snowballs at them. We had tomato fights in people gardens at night and > watched horror movies on TV 'tll the channel went off the air. Yes, stations > used to sign off, "see ya later folks, go to f'n bed cuz all we're gonna do > is emit this annoying tone all night long." > > Oh yeah Gatorade came in bottles, as in GLASS bottles, and it was > fantastic. Pop and beer came in "returnables" , a case of 24 reusable and > returnable bottle of which you paid a minimal deposit for and got back upon > return of the bottles. The bottles were cleaned at the bottler and refilled > and sold again. Everything tasted great out of returnables , it just did and > there is no use trying to explain it. . On weekends I'd go with my Dad to get > gas @ Earls one man service station, back when they really were service > stations. He had a glass door pop machine that didn't take money, you paid > Earl of course, who else is there, duh ? On his chest freezer with ice cream > sandwiches was a kids dream. Gasoline, pop and ice cream sandwiches all > the basics covered . Oh, and KFC down the street too was a treat. Back when > chicken was chicken, and what they didn't sell real people hand picked the > meat off the bones and made sandwiches covered in home made gravy to sell the > next day. > > > ah well . . . . way back when when everything was fresh and new and > special. Going out to eat was a REAL TREAT and infrequent. You could go to > any airport and run around and look at all the planes without assuming you're > a criminal for being born. Flying was a big deal, people wore nice clothes > and were polite. > > Sorry for running about and all stuff happens . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/ZA_JyqGAdrY/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] The "One Bike" for a featherweight?
"Way back when" I and everyone else rode whatever you had. You didn't need anything "special" then, nor do you now. as a teen, I toured on a middle of the road Trek 6something. The rims were probably narrow Rigidas and I rode Specialized Touring Turbos in either 27 x 1-1/8 or 1-1/4. The crank I believe was an SR double with 40/52 rings and a 6 speed 13-28 FW. I never once thought of changing one damn thing. Riding the big ass hills of the Mississippi river was no problem loaded with panniers, tent and sleeping bag. My buddy I rode with brought along his "portable" tape recorder, yea, the big ass things that took D batteries, and we rocked out along the way. My neighbors rode their Treks from Rochester to Door Co. Wisconsin every summer, no panniers, just backpacks yes backpacks. Worked for them ... back when everyone(men *and* women *and *kids) was strong and tough as F'n nails, not like whiny "I gotta have this that and the other to help me" nonsense you see today. Kids played outside, rode their bikes around town, we played "touch" football every Sunday after or before Vikings games. "Touch" wasn't very polite or touchy, I tell you that , ha ha :) We played outside in the ice 'f'n cold MN winter, walked here and there and everywhere. Played boot hockey, skitched behind cars when it snowed and threw snowballs at them. We had tomato fights in people gardens at night and watched horror movies on TV 'tll the channel went off the air. Yes, stations used to sign off, "see ya later folks, go to f'n bed cuz all we're gonna do is emit this annoying tone all night long." Oh yeah Gatorade came in bottles, as in GLASS bottles, and it was fantastic. Pop and beer came in "returnables" , a case of 24 reusable and returnable bottle of which you paid a minimal deposit for and got back upon return of the bottles. The bottles were cleaned at the bottler and refilled and sold again. Everything tasted great out of returnables , it just did and there is no use trying to explain it. . On weekends I'd go with my Dad to get gas @ Earls one man service station, back when they really were service stations. He had a glass door pop machine that didn't take money, you paid Earl of course, who else is there, duh ? On his chest freezer with ice cream sandwiches was a kids dream. Gasoline, pop and ice cream sandwiches all the basics covered . Oh, and KFC down the street too was a treat. Back when chicken was chicken, and what they didn't sell real people hand picked the meat off the bones and made sandwiches covered in home made gravy to sell the next day. ah well . . . . way back when when everything was fresh and new and special. Going out to eat was a REAL TREAT and infrequent. You could go to any airport and run around and look at all the planes without assuming you're a criminal for being born. Flying was a big deal, people wore nice clothes and were polite. Sorry for running about and all stuff happens . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] The "One Bike" for a featherweight?
Roadeo, not the San Marcos, is the lightest Riv. Believe my 53 Roadeo is 645 on the ends and 4 in the middle. Best, Rich -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] The "One Bike" for a featherweight?
I thought they were standard diameter with thicker tubing. On Thursday, July 12, 2018 at 9:01:27 AM UTC-4, Lum Gim Fong wrote: > > What did people tour on back in the ‘60’s and 70’s? Did they build > specific beefy frames for touring? Or was only standard diameter reynolds > tubing (I am guessing it was thin walled) available? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] The "One Bike" for a featherweight?
Back in the 70s I toured on my 73 Schwinn P-15 Paramount. It was (is - I still have it) made of a somewhat heavier than standard duty Reynolds 531 tubing set. It was not a full on touring bike, but did have a slightly longer wheelbase/chainstays than the P-10 racing Paramount - more of what would be called a sport-tourer. I still have the full matched set of Kirtland Tour Pack panniers - front, rear and handlebar bag all in red. Laing Cocoa, FL On Thursday, July 12, 2018 at 9:01:27 AM UTC-4, Lum Gim Fong wrote: > What did people tour on back in the ‘60’s and 70’s? Did they build > specific beefy frames for touring? Or was only standard diameter reynolds > tubing (I am guessing it was thin walled) available? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] The "One Bike" for a featherweight?
What did people tour on back in the ‘60’s and 70’s? Did they build specific beefy frames for touring? Or was only standard diameter reynolds tubing (I am guessing it was thin walled) available? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] The "One Bike" for a featherweight?
I'm 195 lbs and have owned a 58cm diagatube Hunq (now sold) and a 61cm Waterford Atlantis. I'm on the bigger end of the spectrum, I guess, but I think the Atlantis actually feels lively and cushy, especially compared to the Hunq. I took it out on a mixed surface 100K this weekend, and it was a delight. But if I could do it all over again, and was focused on as few bikes as possible, I'd buy a Homer. On Thursday, July 12, 2018 at 7:22:05 AM UTC-4, Hugh Flynn wrote: > > Some good points have been raised here, and I'll echo the advice to ride > what you have until it doesn't work for you. > > I've been riding a Heron Road (bought from Riv in 1998 or so) over mixed > terrain (including gravel) with 700 x 28 tires 20 years and have only JUST > converted it to 650 x 38. While I'm super happy with it, I really can't say > I was ever crazy unhappy with the 28s. > > I have recently added an Appaloosa to the mix because I found the Heron > didn't handle well fully loaded with front/rear racks and bags. Start by > doing what you want on the San Marcos and see what you think. I'd be > willing to guarantee that you won't hurt the frame in any way doing so. > > Hugh "underbiking" Flynn > Newburyport, MA > > On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 12:09 AM Drw > > wrote: > >> I’m about 180lbs, so not a featherweight. At one time I had a >> hunqapillar, Sam and 1983 specialized expedition. I loved the hunq loaded >> but didn’t like it unloaded. In comparison the expedition was great >> unloaded and wobbly with a heavy load. The Sam was a happy medium but I >> wanted bigger clearances, v brakes (this was before the new versions came >> out) and not 700c wheels, so I sold all of the above and got a Waterford >> Atlantis. It’s more hunqapillar than Sam, but it’s pretty close to a 1 bike >> for me. If I was lighter, I probably would go with something g like the >> ocean air rambler or a crust lightning bolt. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com . >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com >> . >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > Hugh Flynn > Newburyport, MA > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] The "One Bike" for a featherweight?
Some good points have been raised here, and I'll echo the advice to ride what you have until it doesn't work for you. I've been riding a Heron Road (bought from Riv in 1998 or so) over mixed terrain (including gravel) with 700 x 28 tires 20 years and have only JUST converted it to 650 x 38. While I'm super happy with it, I really can't say I was ever crazy unhappy with the 28s. I have recently added an Appaloosa to the mix because I found the Heron didn't handle well fully loaded with front/rear racks and bags. Start by doing what you want on the San Marcos and see what you think. I'd be willing to guarantee that you won't hurt the frame in any way doing so. Hugh "underbiking" Flynn Newburyport, MA On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 12:09 AM Drw wrote: > I’m about 180lbs, so not a featherweight. At one time I had a hunqapillar, > Sam and 1983 specialized expedition. I loved the hunq loaded but didn’t > like it unloaded. In comparison the expedition was great unloaded and > wobbly with a heavy load. The Sam was a happy medium but I wanted bigger > clearances, v brakes (this was before the new versions came out) and not > 700c wheels, so I sold all of the above and got a Waterford Atlantis. It’s > more hunqapillar than Sam, but it’s pretty close to a 1 bike for me. If I > was lighter, I probably would go with something g like the ocean air > rambler or a crust lightning bolt. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Hugh Flynn Newburyport, MA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] The "One Bike" for a featherweight?
I’m about 180lbs, so not a featherweight. At one time I had a hunqapillar, Sam and 1983 specialized expedition. I loved the hunq loaded but didn’t like it unloaded. In comparison the expedition was great unloaded and wobbly with a heavy load. The Sam was a happy medium but I wanted bigger clearances, v brakes (this was before the new versions came out) and not 700c wheels, so I sold all of the above and got a Waterford Atlantis. It’s more hunqapillar than Sam, but it’s pretty close to a 1 bike for me. If I was lighter, I probably would go with something g like the ocean air rambler or a crust lightning bolt. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] The "One Bike" for a featherweight?
Sean, this is exactly my dilemma. I have learned that enjoy standard diameter thin wall tubed framesets because they have more of a springy, energetic feel. Others might have different preferences. For example, even with a full touring load, my Hilsen was more fun (for me) to ride than my Atlantis. If you prefer that rock solid feel over what some might call noodly, you might choose the Atlantis or Hunq over the Hilsen. I eventually purchased an Ocean Air Cycles with standard diameter 8/5/8 tubing, have loaded it up with touring gear, and it is even better (for me). My weight is around 130-135. Sometimes I don't think average or larger folk uunderstand how important that difference is to us small guys. But there are wonderfully lively framesets available. Chris Johnson Sanger, Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] The "One Bike" for a featherweight?
I weigh 120 and if I had to narrow my collection to one bike it would probably be my 57cm Bleriot. I’ve used it on and off road, for commuting, for camping, and for brevets up to 600km. Ted Durant Milwaukee WI -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] The "One Bike" for a featherweight?
Even what Grant calls a light road bike is going to be stouter than what your average carbon rider considers such a thing; I have full confidence your San Marcos is fine for the riding you want to do. But you want a nice new MUSA bike so bollocks on all that San Marcos silliness! I think you'd love the Hunqapillar, and might even fit the used one that's listed around here somewhere. Or get a Crust Lightning Bolt for low-trail. I have one and it does handle similar to a Brompton. Joe Bernard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] The "One Bike" for a featherweight?
I want to see this. What geometry? I asked Chauncey to make me a "road bike" that could take 60s and fenders, but he (doubtless in his wisdom) gave it a slacker head and, while generous rake (55 mm), the trail is still 67 or so with 60s. but I wonder what my Rivs would feel like on dirt if they could take and were ridden with 60 mm tires. On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 10:54 PM, Philip Williamson < philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote: > ... > > That said, I just put a deposit down on a custom Fitz road bike with 60mm > tires and a dropper post. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] The "One Bike" for a featherweight?
First: ride what you have the way you can and want to ride. Figure out what works and what doesn’t. Many people prefer lighter bikes for gravel and bikepacking, some prefer 3” wide tires without suspension, some like 2.4” full suspension bikes. You won’t know until you try. >From there iron out what you might change: - do you want racks or strap on bags? - are you needing a lower top tube for dismounting? - does it waggle or feel too stiff? - does it feel like you need skinnier or fatter tires? - how about that top tube? Does it let you run the bars you want in the position you want? - are my tires supple enough? SHOULD I HAVE GUMWALLS? - why isn’t it orange? All of these will help you decide if what you have is right, almost there and tweakable, the correct base but serious overhauling or complete replacement. I have tended mostly towards tweaking the setup except in the case of my MTB. My first one came and went so fast I barely remember it. I’m tweaking it’s replacement to all hell though. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] The "One Bike" for a featherweight?
I weigh 236 today. I think a Bomba/Hunq is overkill for _me_! I’d ride that San Marcos. 35mm tires work surprisingly well, even for someone 100lbs heavier. They used to be huge. Deep gravel is safer with 38s, but who can afford extra gravel these days? That said, I just put a deposit down on a custom Fitz road bike with 60mm tires and a dropper post. Philip Santa Rosa, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] The "One Bike" for a featherweight?
Patrick, You have some really cool bikes. Cheers Don On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 4:56:44 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Perhaps this is not stealing from Riv's market, given your quandary, but > you might enquire with Chauncey Matthews (Matthews Custom Cycles, Belen, > NM) who specializes in rather nice and even exotic off road bikes at very > reasonable prices. Mine doesn't give me the superlative ride I'd expect > from an Atlantis or Hunqapillar -- but who knows, I've not ridden those -- > but it rides darned nicely for a bike that takes 60 mm tires with fenders, > 70s or 75s without, is made from lightweight heat treated tubing, has all > sorts of custom features, and allows use of a Logic triple with sub 160 mm > Q (Q on mine is right at 160, but I could get a 126-127 spindle to work in > place of the 130). Disc brakes with nice, tapered, curving fork, custom > racks f/r. > > I'm 175 and my bike shown weighs in at 30.34 lb with frame bag full of > kit, pump, spare tube, 4 oz sealant; 1 lb tires with 4 oz sealant; and > bulky dynamo light system, the innards of which are in the frame bag. > > On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 9:55 AM, Sean Steinle > wrote: > >> So, I see lots of discussion around how a bike handles for tall/heavy >> riders. What I don't see is much about us featherweights. Is it because we >> don't have to worry about it, or what? I'm 125 pounds if I'm lucky, and I'm >> lusting after a Bomba/Hunq. The thing is though, I'm wondering if it's >> overkill. I live in Kansas and have endless miles of country roads with >> loose, large gravel that I want to explore, and dip my toes into some >> bikepacking. I also commute to work, and buying a new bike will likely mean >> selling my Titanium Brommie, so this new bike will see plenty of paved >> roads for commuting duty as well. >> >> I bought a Soma San Marcos (54 cm 700c version) frame on an impulse, >> without doing any research. Everything that Grant has said about it though >> is that it's made with lightweight tubing and is a road bike. I was >> originally thinking about doing a 650b conversion to get 42s under there, >> but now I'm second guessing it with Grant's "this is a road bike" remarks. >> With my interest in lots of gravel riding and bikepacking, this frame seems >> like a poor choice. >> >> Sorry for the long-winded post. I think my real question boils down to: >> does being very light let me pick whichever frame I want as long as tire >> clearance and geo are good, without the worry about putting too much stress >> on the frame on rough surfaces? Or is a Hunq/Bomba still a good choice for >> me? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com . >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com >> . >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > > -- > Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. > By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. > Other professional writing services. > http://www.resumespecialties.com/ > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, New Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique > ** > ** > *Auditis an me ludit amabilis insania?* > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] The "One Bike" for a featherweight?
Hey Sean! Fantastic question(s). First, the weight of the engine is separate from any gear the bike carries. It doesn’t matter how much you, the engine, weigh, putting 50 pounds of gear on a bike is going to change how it rides. Lighter tubing more so than stiffer tubing. Where you carry gear also matters. Front or back (Rivendells have geometry for all rear or add some to the front if you want, entirely personal preference). Weight on top of a back rack has a higher center of gravity than that same weight in panniers down lower (just pack semi-balanced! Grin.). Riding smart and “unloading” the engine off the seat for bumps etc, allows a lighter frame to do more, but keep in mind that a load can’t unweight and will impact in all those bumps and washboards even when you unweight. So, a lighter engine can ride a lighter tubed bike for road, but as soon as you add in trail and/or touring and/or bikepacking (the best and most challenging of both trail and touring!) I’d suggest a stiffer frame. But keep in mind that Grant has you covered and describes very well the range a bike can do well. Just based on what you’ve described, it sounds like an App. or Atlantis would be perfect, and easily handle what you’re going to throw at it. Give Riv a holler. They’d love to talk with you and help you out! It’s what they do! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] The "One Bike" for a featherweight?
So, I see lots of discussion around how a bike handles for tall/heavy riders. What I don't see is much about us featherweights. Is it because we don't have to worry about it, or what? I'm 125 pounds if I'm lucky, and I'm lusting after a Bomba/Hunq. The thing is though, I'm wondering if it's overkill. I live in Kansas and have endless miles of country roads with loose, large gravel that I want to explore, and dip my toes into some bikepacking. I also commute to work, and buying a new bike will likely mean selling my Titanium Brommie, so this new bike will see plenty of paved roads for commuting duty as well. I bought a Soma San Marcos (54 cm 700c version) frame on an impulse, without doing any research. Everything that Grant has said about it though is that it's made with lightweight tubing and is a road bike. I was originally thinking about doing a 650b conversion to get 42s under there, but now I'm second guessing it with Grant's "this is a road bike" remarks. With my interest in lots of gravel riding and bikepacking, this frame seems like a poor choice. Sorry for the long-winded post. I think my real question boils down to: does being very light let me pick whichever frame I want as long as tire clearance and geo are good, without the worry about putting too much stress on the frame on rough surfaces? Or is a Hunq/Bomba still a good choice for me? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
