[RBW] Truing wheels question.

2018-10-06 Thread Joe Bernard
What they said about 1/4 turns, but I'll get granular as a mechanic who only 
works on wobbly spots on the rim, and does it with the wheel in the bike. 

First, you gotta remember which way the nipples turn, which can be confusing 
with the spoke tool in your hand. Always picture looking down "through" the rim 
so you're turning clockwise to bring the nipple down on the spoke, 
counterclockwise to pull it up off the spoke. 

Ok, now get the off-center spot of the rim between the pads (or on the truing 
stand). See that spot closest to a pad? It needs to move back towards the 
center. First loosen a couple spokes on the "close" side, then tighten a couple 
on the "away" side. Keep fiddling with this adjustment until the rim is back in 
the center. Easy!😋

Working on just the one spot won't get you into territory where you're screwing 
up the tension on the whole wheel, it's just a minor adjustment you can even do 
on the road. For the whole shebang I'd waltz on down to RBW and have Rich do 
it. I ain't no wheelbuilder. 

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Re: [RBW] Truing wheels question.

2018-10-06 Thread Ben Miller
I've built a dozen or so wheels without any issues. And I've trued wheels in 
the middle of rides (just not ones I built :) 

It's not hard. Like others have said, go slow with quarter turns. Read a book 
on wheel building or Sheldon Brown's page on it. Wheel building is mostly 
trueing the wheel. I disagree that you need a dedicated stand. I built my first 
half dozen wheels on the frame. Use the rim brake as a guide (not your hand!) 
Side pull brakes make it easy. But cantilevers work too. Wheels I built this 
way have over 10,000 km without any problems. 

Good luck and have fun.

Ben

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Re: [RBW] Truing wheels question.

2018-10-06 Thread Patrick Moore
Minor truing is easy; just do things slowly by making quarter turns.

I've been fortunate over the last several years in having my wheels all
built by *good* builders; they hardly ever go out of true. But other wheels
require a bit of tweaking over the first few hundred miles, but this is
easy by careful identification of out-of-true areas, and careful, slow
adjustment. Easier than tweaking bent brake rotors!

I just use my thumb as a truing guide - hand grasping seatstay.

I have built just 1 wheel myself, and that was the platonic ideal of a
wheel: 36 spokes, no dish. I followed Sheldon's instructions, using no
stand but placing the newly built and tensioned wheel in the frame and
using my left thumb, hand gripping the seatstay, to finish truing. The
wheel was apparently bulletproof, since it needed to adjustment in the
several thousand miles I put on it.

On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 9:28 AM Lum Gim Fong  wrote:

> Was wondering if this is easy to do for a first timer, or could I mess up
> the spoke tension and cause big probs.
>
> Of course, safety is my first concern. I don't want to mess up the wheel
> and cause a safety issue.
>
> But it is a skill I would like to have so I don't have to run to the LBS
> over something that may be simple to do myself.
>
> Books make it seem simple.
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Re: [RBW] Truing wheels question.

2018-10-06 Thread 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch
It’s not that difficult. I recommend putting the wheel in a truing stand, 
rather than in the bike (there are consumer-level truing stands available) and 
going slowly. 1/4 turns of the spoke nipples. Don’t make big changes—a little 
at a time until it’s true again.

Most of the time, a spoke or two will have gone loose, and all that’s needed is 
to retighten it. 

That works for me. If the out-of-trueness exceeds my skills, I’ll take it to my 
LBW (local wheel builder).

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> On Oct 6, 2018, at 8:28 AM, Lum Gim Fong  wrote:
> 
> Was wondering if this is easy to do for a first timer, or could I mess up the 
> spoke tension and cause big probs.
> 
> Of course, safety is my first concern. I don't want to mess up the wheel and 
> cause a safety issue.
> 
> But it is a skill I would like to have so I don't have to run to the LBS over 
> something that may be simple to do myself.
> 
> Books make it seem simple.
> 
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[RBW] Truing wheels question.

2018-10-06 Thread Lum Gim Fong
Was wondering if this is easy to do for a first timer, or could I mess up 
the spoke tension and cause big probs.

Of course, safety is my first concern. I don't want to mess up the wheel 
and cause a safety issue.

But it is a skill I would like to have so I don't have to run to the LBS 
over something that may be simple to do myself.

Books make it seem simple.

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