Re: [RBW] What's Good - Wide-ish/flared drops edition...

2022-12-09 Thread Ben Mihovk
I guess I should add that I'm not really willing to go 31.8 clamp 
diameter...I'm looking only for 26mm.

Ben

On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 12:59:25 PM UTC-6 wboe...@gmail.com wrote:

> I quite like Ritchey's Venturemax, and also have a set of Salsa 
> Cowchippers.  Both are 12ish degrees of flare, which seems just right for 
> me.  Ergo bend bars are divisive, though.
>
>
>
> On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 1:16:30 PM UTC-5 Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:
>
>> I was certain I at least captured something since swapping to the RM013 
>> in 52cm but I’ve apparently failed at documenting anything on this one 
>> since this prior Salsa Cowbell build from June’21. 
>>
>> This would eventually wear the aforementioned Nitto bars with shim, 
>> Sugino GLP double cranks bought from Bill L., turned into a single 42t, 
>> Nitto 32f mini front rack with partial DIY light mount bracket from a cut & 
>> filed 52t chainring drilled and adapted for a Paul Gino light mount to get 
>> a battery light bar bracket out in front and above the tire.  Plus a Tubus 
>> Tara option for front low riders if another build meant for more errand 
>> running went down.  Actually, come to think of it, I never tested whether 
>> the Tara hoop would’ve interfered with the new light placement (or vice 
>> versa.)  It probably would have…
>>
>>
>> On Friday, December 9, 2022, Coal Bee Rye Anne  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi J,
>>> Adding this link for prosperity...  Primarily compares RM014 to RM013 
>>> but scroll to the bottom for the notable Noodle comparison!  I eventually 
>>> stumbled upon this page some time ago during searches for 52cm RM013 bars 
>>> and trying to verify how they were measured.  I'll see if I could dig up a 
>>> photo of the build though it'll likely differ in some regard from the most 
>>> recent variation as I had swapped bars/levers/cranks/wheel at various 
>>> points but unfortunately think I missed an proper photo documentation of 
>>> where it ended.
>>>
>>> http://biketouringnews.com/components-touring-bicycles/cockpit/touring-bike-handlebars/nitto-dirt-drop-handlebars/
>>> On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 11:28:23 AM UTC-5 J wrote:
>>>
 Brian-
 That's good insight about the 52 vs 48, the difference being in the 
 width of the flair only, since nowhere else is that useful info available. 
 I've been considering moving from the narrowest Towel Rack V1 to a Noodle 
 bar but have been unsure I could get along with the narrow width. What 
 bike 
 are you using the 52 Noodle on, any photos? 

 On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 10:49:26 AM UTC-5 lwt...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Check out the PNW Coast bar.  A little flair but not too crazy. They 
> make really nice stuff at a reasonable price and great customer service.
>
> On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 8:25:06 AM UTC-7 Coal Bee Rye Anne 
> wrote:
>
>> 52cm Nitto RM013 - it's essentially a 48mm Noodle with extra flare 
>> only in the drop itself (so hoods retain a more normal orientation but 
>> that 
>> extra flare when in the drops feels nice if venturing off into slightly 
>> more technical terrain.) 
>> I started with a 48cm RM013 after being confused about the 
>> measurements, which differ from the Noodle, and found the 48cm RM013 it 
>> a 
>> hair too narrow for my liking.  I eventually acquired the desired 52cm 
>> of 
>> the same model through a series of parts swaps and list purchases as 
>> well 
>> as a Salsa Cowbell in the widest 46cm size (which is 46cm center to 
>> center 
>> at the hoods making the drop/bar ends over 50cm.)
>>
>> I really like aspects of both the Cowbell and RM013 for the types of 
>> riding you describe but found I personally seem to prefer longer ramps.  
>> The Cowbell's 68mm reach felt much too short for me, personally, and was 
>> the only reason I moved away from them.  The 90mm reach of the RM013 
>> felt 
>> much better when on the ramps.  I was kind of indifferent to the deeper 
>> drop vs. the Cowbell but do like the unique flare combined with a more 
>> traditional road drop for a mixed surface road-ish bike.  I'd considered 
>> trying Crust's new 31.8 Bonneville bar since I was running a 31.8 thread 
>> less stem with 26.0 shim for the RM013's on my only drop bar bike.  I 
>> thought I'd like to try the longer/flatter 120mm ramp and 15deg flare 
>> compared to the Cowbell 12deg, however, that frame has since been 
>> sidelined 
>> so won't be attempting any other drop swaps anytime soon.
>>
>> I also have one of the original v1 Towel Rack/Leather Bar in the 
>> 66cm/26.0 (only the single option in the v1) but used it only briefly on 
>> a 
>> short brakeless test ride mid-build on another project.  It was 
>> certainly 
>> wde but I have not yet had an opportunity to fully test it yet as 
>> the 
>> full build has not 

Re: [RBW] What's Good - Wide-ish/flared drops edition...

2022-12-09 Thread Will Boericke
I quite like Ritchey's Venturemax, and also have a set of Salsa 
Cowchippers.  Both are 12ish degrees of flare, which seems just right for 
me.  Ergo bend bars are divisive, though.



On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 1:16:30 PM UTC-5 Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:

> I was certain I at least captured something since swapping to the RM013 in 
> 52cm but I’ve apparently failed at documenting anything on this one since 
> this prior Salsa Cowbell build from June’21. 
>
> This would eventually wear the aforementioned Nitto bars with shim, Sugino 
> GLP double cranks bought from Bill L., turned into a single 42t, Nitto 32f 
> mini front rack with partial DIY light mount bracket from a cut & filed 52t 
> chainring drilled and adapted for a Paul Gino light mount to get a battery 
> light bar bracket out in front and above the tire.  Plus a Tubus Tara 
> option for front low riders if another build meant for more errand running 
> went down.  Actually, come to think of it, I never tested whether the Tara 
> hoop would’ve interfered with the new light placement (or vice versa.)  It 
> probably would have…
>
>
> On Friday, December 9, 2022, Coal Bee Rye Anne  
> wrote:
>
>> Hi J,
>> Adding this link for prosperity...  Primarily compares RM014 to RM013 but 
>> scroll to the bottom for the notable Noodle comparison!  I eventually 
>> stumbled upon this page some time ago during searches for 52cm RM013 bars 
>> and trying to verify how they were measured.  I'll see if I could dig up a 
>> photo of the build though it'll likely differ in some regard from the most 
>> recent variation as I had swapped bars/levers/cranks/wheel at various 
>> points but unfortunately think I missed an proper photo documentation of 
>> where it ended.
>>
>> http://biketouringnews.com/components-touring-bicycles/cockpit/touring-bike-handlebars/nitto-dirt-drop-handlebars/
>> On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 11:28:23 AM UTC-5 J wrote:
>>
>>> Brian-
>>> That's good insight about the 52 vs 48, the difference being in the 
>>> width of the flair only, since nowhere else is that useful info available. 
>>> I've been considering moving from the narrowest Towel Rack V1 to a Noodle 
>>> bar but have been unsure I could get along with the narrow width. What bike 
>>> are you using the 52 Noodle on, any photos? 
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 10:49:26 AM UTC-5 lwt...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Check out the PNW Coast bar.  A little flair but not too crazy. They 
 make really nice stuff at a reasonable price and great customer service.

 On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 8:25:06 AM UTC-7 Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:

> 52cm Nitto RM013 - it's essentially a 48mm Noodle with extra flare 
> only in the drop itself (so hoods retain a more normal orientation but 
> that 
> extra flare when in the drops feels nice if venturing off into slightly 
> more technical terrain.) 
> I started with a 48cm RM013 after being confused about the 
> measurements, which differ from the Noodle, and found the 48cm RM013 it a 
> hair too narrow for my liking.  I eventually acquired the desired 52cm of 
> the same model through a series of parts swaps and list purchases as well 
> as a Salsa Cowbell in the widest 46cm size (which is 46cm center to 
> center 
> at the hoods making the drop/bar ends over 50cm.)
>
> I really like aspects of both the Cowbell and RM013 for the types of 
> riding you describe but found I personally seem to prefer longer ramps.  
> The Cowbell's 68mm reach felt much too short for me, personally, and was 
> the only reason I moved away from them.  The 90mm reach of the RM013 felt 
> much better when on the ramps.  I was kind of indifferent to the deeper 
> drop vs. the Cowbell but do like the unique flare combined with a more 
> traditional road drop for a mixed surface road-ish bike.  I'd considered 
> trying Crust's new 31.8 Bonneville bar since I was running a 31.8 thread 
> less stem with 26.0 shim for the RM013's on my only drop bar bike.  I 
> thought I'd like to try the longer/flatter 120mm ramp and 15deg flare 
> compared to the Cowbell 12deg, however, that frame has since been 
> sidelined 
> so won't be attempting any other drop swaps anytime soon.
>
> I also have one of the original v1 Towel Rack/Leather Bar in the 
> 66cm/26.0 (only the single option in the v1) but used it only briefly on 
> a 
> short brakeless test ride mid-build on another project.  It was certainly 
> wde but I have not yet had an opportunity to fully test it yet as the 
> full build has not yet materialized.  Current iterations are also 
> significantly different in spec than the v1 but I do hope to eventually 
> give it a try.
>
>
> https://crustbikes.com/collections/handlebars/products/nitto-rm-dirt-drop
>
> 

[RBW] What's Good - Wide-ish/flared drops edition...

2022-12-09 Thread Ben Mihovk
Hey everyone!
I posted earlier about reach in converting to a wider bar and decided to 
start a different conversation to get opinions on wide-ish, flared drops.

I like the Nitto Noodle quite well, but I think I do want a little flare 
and I don't want to bend them myself. So what's good out there? I'm tempted 
by the Crust Towel Rack, but I'd love to hear what you all like.

If it helps/matters, the kind of riding I do with the bike it's going is 
casual rails-to-trails, some rolling gravel roads, but nothing too 
technical or serious.

Thanks!
Ben

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