I guess I should add that I'm not really willing to go 31.8 clamp 
diameter...I'm looking only for 26mm.

Ben

On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 12:59:25 PM UTC-6 wboe...@gmail.com wrote:

> I quite like Ritchey's Venturemax, and also have a set of Salsa 
> Cowchippers.  Both are 12ish degrees of flare, which seems just right for 
> me.  Ergo bend bars are divisive, though.
>
>
>
> On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 1:16:30 PM UTC-5 Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:
>
>> I was certain I at least captured something since swapping to the RM013 
>> in 52cm but I’ve apparently failed at documenting anything on this one 
>> since this prior Salsa Cowbell build from June’21. 
>>
>> This would eventually wear the aforementioned Nitto bars with shim, 
>> Sugino GLP double cranks bought from Bill L., turned into a single 42t, 
>> Nitto 32f mini front rack with partial DIY light mount bracket from a cut & 
>> filed 52t chainring drilled and adapted for a Paul Gino light mount to get 
>> a battery light bar bracket out in front and above the tire.  Plus a Tubus 
>> Tara option for front low riders if another build meant for more errand 
>> running went down.  Actually, come to think of it, I never tested whether 
>> the Tara hoop would’ve interfered with the new light placement (or vice 
>> versa.)  It probably would have…
>>
>>
>> On Friday, December 9, 2022, Coal Bee Rye Anne <lionsrug...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi J,
>>> Adding this link for prosperity...  Primarily compares RM014 to RM013 
>>> but scroll to the bottom for the notable Noodle comparison!  I eventually 
>>> stumbled upon this page some time ago during searches for 52cm RM013 bars 
>>> and trying to verify how they were measured.  I'll see if I could dig up a 
>>> photo of the build though it'll likely differ in some regard from the most 
>>> recent variation as I had swapped bars/levers/cranks/wheel at various 
>>> points but unfortunately think I missed an proper photo documentation of 
>>> where it ended.
>>>
>>> http://biketouringnews.com/components-touring-bicycles/cockpit/touring-bike-handlebars/nitto-dirt-drop-handlebars/
>>> On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 11:28:23 AM UTC-5 J wrote:
>>>
>>>> Brian-
>>>> That's good insight about the 52 vs 48, the difference being in the 
>>>> width of the flair only, since nowhere else is that useful info available. 
>>>> I've been considering moving from the narrowest Towel Rack V1 to a Noodle 
>>>> bar but have been unsure I could get along with the narrow width. What 
>>>> bike 
>>>> are you using the 52 Noodle on, any photos? 
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 10:49:26 AM UTC-5 lwt...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Check out the PNW Coast bar.  A little flair but not too crazy. They 
>>>>> make really nice stuff at a reasonable price and great customer service.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 8:25:06 AM UTC-7 Coal Bee Rye Anne 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 52cm Nitto RM013 - it's essentially a 48mm Noodle with extra flare 
>>>>>> only in the drop itself (so hoods retain a more normal orientation but 
>>>>>> that 
>>>>>> extra flare when in the drops feels nice if venturing off into slightly 
>>>>>> more technical terrain.) 
>>>>>> I started with a 48cm RM013 after being confused about the 
>>>>>> measurements, which differ from the Noodle, and found the 48cm RM013 it 
>>>>>> a 
>>>>>> hair too narrow for my liking.  I eventually acquired the desired 52cm 
>>>>>> of 
>>>>>> the same model through a series of parts swaps and list purchases as 
>>>>>> well 
>>>>>> as a Salsa Cowbell in the widest 46cm size (which is 46cm center to 
>>>>>> center 
>>>>>> at the hoods making the drop/bar ends over 50cm.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I really like aspects of both the Cowbell and RM013 for the types of 
>>>>>> riding you describe but found I personally seem to prefer longer ramps.  
>>>>>> The Cowbell's 68mm reach felt much too short for me, personally, and was 
>>>>>> the only reason I moved away from them.  The 90mm reach of the RM013 
>>>>>> felt 
>>>>>> much better when on the ramps.  I was kind of indifferent to the deeper 
>>>>>> drop vs. the Cowbell but do like the unique flare combined with a more 
>>>>>> traditional road drop for a mixed surface road-ish bike.  I'd considered 
>>>>>> trying Crust's new 31.8 Bonneville bar since I was running a 31.8 thread 
>>>>>> less stem with 26.0 shim for the RM013's on my only drop bar bike.  I 
>>>>>> thought I'd like to try the longer/flatter 120mm ramp and 15deg flare 
>>>>>> compared to the Cowbell 12deg, however, that frame has since been 
>>>>>> sidelined 
>>>>>> so won't be attempting any other drop swaps anytime soon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also have one of the original v1 Towel Rack/Leather Bar in the 
>>>>>> 66cm/26.0 (only the single option in the v1) but used it only briefly on 
>>>>>> a 
>>>>>> short brakeless test ride mid-build on another project.  It was 
>>>>>> certainly 
>>>>>> wiiiide but I have not yet had an opportunity to fully test it yet as 
>>>>>> the 
>>>>>> full build has not yet materialized.  Current iterations are also 
>>>>>> significantly different in spec than the v1 but I do hope to eventually 
>>>>>> give it a try.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://crustbikes.com/collections/handlebars/products/nitto-rm-dirt-drop
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://crustbikes.com/collections/handlebars/products/nitto-x-crust-bonneville-bar?variant=39999234146394
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brian Cole
>>>>>> Lawrence NJ
>>>>>> On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 9:36:15 AM UTC-5 bjmi...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey everyone!
>>>>>>> I posted earlier about reach in converting to a wider bar and 
>>>>>>> decided to start a different conversation to get opinions on wide-ish, 
>>>>>>> flared drops.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I like the Nitto Noodle quite well, but I think I do want a little 
>>>>>>> flare and I don't want to bend them myself. So what's good out there? 
>>>>>>> I'm 
>>>>>>> tempted by the Crust Towel Rack, but I'd love to hear what you all like.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If it helps/matters, the kind of riding I do with the bike it's 
>>>>>>> going is casual rails-to-trails, some rolling gravel roads, but nothing 
>>>>>>> too 
>>>>>>> technical or serious.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>> Ben
>>>>>>>
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