[RBW] Coffeeneuring on A Stolen Clem

[Karl]

Great ride report. If goose poop is the worst thing on a ride... it was a 
pretty good day. Thanks for sharing. 

Karl
Nashville, TN

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[RBW] Coffeeneuring on A Stolen Clem

[Philip Williamson]

That’s a great ride report!
Congratulations on your n+1 coup. Your husband now needs a Roadini. 

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA

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[RBW] Coffeeneuring on A Stolen Clem

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

DP,

1. I laughed out loud!
2. They’ve got it, but they won’t wear it.
3. See 2
4. These would look smashing on your wee lassies on their Clementines - 
Kut_Kloth Boutique on Etsy
5. It was nearly 60 degrees here but partly cloudy. The rest of my family live 
in the states in the polar vortex, and I’m not joking. I figured I could handle 
the goose poop and the partly cloudy!

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[RBW] Coffeeneuring on A Stolen Clem

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

1. You give new meaning to “Ride it like you stole it!”
2. You need friends with proper clothing.
3. Achieve #2 by informing them there is no such thing as bad weather, only bad 
clothing.
4. Great scarf! I have to recalibrate my expectation that a scarf in January 
might not be heavy wool knit.
5. Thanks for another great vicarious urban adventure, in which goose poo in 
January was a factor. Still scratching my head. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Coffeeneuring on A Stolen Clem

[Patrick Moore]

When I saw the headline, I thought that a friend's Clem had been stolen.
Then I began reading and thought that you had borrowed the Clem and that
*it* was stolen. Now I see that all that happened is that you borrowed the
Clem and had a good ride. Relief all around.

Personally, I keep a couple of Rivs so that I can steal one from myself if
I get tired of the other one. I've gotten so used to setting up my bikes
just so that I don't enjoy others' bikes as much (tho' Ryan Watson's old
Herse felt so good when I first got on it that I bought it).

I've developed good relationships with my most frequented area stores over
the years and they seem quite happy to let me roll a bike around in place
of a shopping cart. I did ask a couple of employees at the nearest, and
newest, Sprout's if I could do that; they were taken aback (I was on foot,
having come in a car) but said, "Sure, why not?" I try to do this only when
the business is not too busy, though.

How cold is "cool" where you are?

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 5:16 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> ***I initially wrote this in a pdf so that the photos would nicely embed.
> It was too large to include here, so I’m going the old-fashioned route. If
> there’s a better and easier way to view a pdf, let me know.***
>
> Today, I planned to meet friends at a coffee shop. On account of it being
> cloudy and cool, and a 743 foot climb back home, no one wanted to go by
> bike. Except me.
>
> Now, our destination coffee shop is new and has neither bike rack nor
> poles to lock up against. Knowing this, I decided I would ask if I could
> park the bike inside. What if they say I can’t bring my bike inside, I
> wondered. As I stood in my garage, my gaze fell upon my husband’s
> under-utilized Clem H, which happens to fit me fine. Better to take my
> husband’s bike so the thieves can’t steal MINE.
>
> Fortified by that comforting thought, I set to work feminizing his rugged
> and bare naked Clem H. First, I strapped on my gray medium Saddlesack,
> which has a patch (that I paid to have specially sewn on) of a blue bicycle
> with flowers in the baskets. The blue Banana Sax went on the front, and I
> loaded it with my essentials. Lastly, I put my pretty purple Hydroflask in
> the bottle cage of the French blue Clem (Those colors are lovely together!
> I thought to myself). I bade my fluffy dog farewell, and then pointed my
> Bosco bars towards the bike path. As the garage door was closing, I was
> futzing with my ear buds and SLAM. See, that Clem is lnnngg, and I had
> misjudged the distance of the bike from the garage door as it came down.
> Onto the rear tire. Whew, glad that wasn’t my bike, I thought, relieved. I
> mounted the bike, and oof, the top tube. That will take some getting used
> to; I’ve always suspected I’m a mixte person, and now I know it. I *may*
> have accidentally kicked the top tube with my boot. And then we were off!
>
> I’m used to the ride of a 55 cm Betty Foy, racked and bagged and loaded,
> rolling along on fendered 38s. The stolen Clem is a whole different animal.
> There were some things to get used to - first off, that sprung Brooks B67
> saddle. I initially thought it was loose, as it seemed to sway beneath me.
> No, it’s just hammocky - not like my B17 Select, hard as a wooden church
> pew. You know how your own tires and drivetrain sound, and it’s a foreign
> feeling to experience them on a different bike. Those big, fat Clem tires
> roll along with a hum that, once you’re acquainted with it, is soothing.
> When you coast, the drivetrain is silent. I have the clickety click when I
> coast on my Betty Foy, and I like it, but now I enjoy this pensive and
> peaceful feeling I get from the stolen Clem.
>
> I rode over desert washes, passed by a golf course, and cruised down near
> the country club. They are draining the pond there, and the birds are all
> in a panic over it. I looked down at the paved path to see a minefield of
> goose droppings. I did not imagine I would wish for fenders today, but here
> we are, I thought. I made a mental note to check a mirror for a green
> stripe up the back of me.
>
> The stolen Clem flew down the hills with ease, seeming to really like
> stretching its legs. I slowed it down, not trusting it like I do my Betty,
> but there was nothing to fear. Riding the Clem was like sailing on a cloud
> and being reassured that everything is well and good. It’s a capable bike,
> and it tells you that. I don’t know what elven magic is put in there by
> Rivendell, but the truth is that bike has a palpable personality.
>
> We had to stop at lots of intersections and wait for the crosswalk light,
> but we made 5.7 miles in 33:57 and beat everyone else to the coffee shop. I
> asked the baristas if I could bring in my bike since there was nowhere to
> lock up; they looked at me like they didn’t really understand, but they
> gave me permission. Relieved that I would have a way to get home after all

Re: [RBW] Coffeeneuring on A Stolen Clem

[Eric Daume]

I'm just rolling my eyes at those who think it's "too cool" to ride. It's
up to 8 degrees outside here, but windy.

Eric

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 7:16 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> ***I initially wrote this in a pdf so that the photos would nicely embed.
> It was too large to include here, so I’m going the old-fashioned route. If
> there’s a better and easier way to view a pdf, let me know.***
>
> Today, I planned to meet friends at a coffee shop. On account of it being
> cloudy and cool, and a 743 foot climb back home, no one wanted to go by
> bike. Except me.
>
> Now, our destination coffee shop is new and has neither bike rack nor
> poles to lock up against. Knowing this, I decided I would ask if I could
> park the bike inside. What if they say I can’t bring my bike inside, I
> wondered. As I stood in my garage, my gaze fell upon my husband’s
> under-utilized Clem H, which happens to fit me fine. Better to take my
> husband’s bike so the thieves can’t steal MINE.
>
> Fortified by that comforting thought, I set to work feminizing his rugged
> and bare naked Clem H. First, I strapped on my gray medium Saddlesack,
> which has a patch (that I paid to have specially sewn on) of a blue bicycle
> with flowers in the baskets. The blue Banana Sax went on the front, and I
> loaded it with my essentials. Lastly, I put my pretty purple Hydroflask in
> the bottle cage of the French blue Clem (Those colors are lovely together!
> I thought to myself). I bade my fluffy dog farewell, and then pointed my
> Bosco bars towards the bike path. As the garage door was closing, I was
> futzing with my ear buds and SLAM. See, that Clem is lnnngg, and I had
> misjudged the distance of the bike from the garage door as it came down.
> Onto the rear tire. Whew, glad that wasn’t my bike, I thought, relieved. I
> mounted the bike, and oof, the top tube. That will take some getting used
> to; I’ve always suspected I’m a mixte person, and now I know it. I *may*
> have accidentally kicked the top tube with my boot. And then we were off!
>
> I’m used to the ride of a 55 cm Betty Foy, racked and bagged and loaded,
> rolling along on fendered 38s. The stolen Clem is a whole different animal.
> There were some things to get used to - first off, that sprung Brooks B67
> saddle. I initially thought it was loose, as it seemed to sway beneath me.
> No, it’s just hammocky - not like my B17 Select, hard as a wooden church
> pew. You know how your own tires and drivetrain sound, and it’s a foreign
> feeling to experience them on a different bike. Those big, fat Clem tires
> roll along with a hum that, once you’re acquainted with it, is soothing.
> When you coast, the drivetrain is silent. I have the clickety click when I
> coast on my Betty Foy, and I like it, but now I enjoy this pensive and
> peaceful feeling I get from the stolen Clem.
>
> I rode over desert washes, passed by a golf course, and cruised down near
> the country club. They are draining the pond there, and the birds are all
> in a panic over it. I looked down at the paved path to see a minefield of
> goose droppings. I did not imagine I would wish for fenders today, but here
> we are, I thought. I made a mental note to check a mirror for a green
> stripe up the back of me.
>
> The stolen Clem flew down the hills with ease, seeming to really like
> stretching its legs. I slowed it down, not trusting it like I do my Betty,
> but there was nothing to fear. Riding the Clem was like sailing on a cloud
> and being reassured that everything is well and good. It’s a capable bike,
> and it tells you that. I don’t know what elven magic is put in there by
> Rivendell, but the truth is that bike has a palpable personality.
>
> We had to stop at lots of intersections and wait for the crosswalk light,
> but we made 5.7 miles in 33:57 and beat everyone else to the coffee shop. I
> asked the baristas if I could bring in my bike since there was nowhere to
> lock up; they looked at me like they didn’t really understand, but they
> gave me permission. Relieved that I would have a way to get home after all
> (and that my pilfered bike wasn’t going to be pilfered), I sat down and
> snapped a photo of the Clem (because it looked so classy sitting in the
> coffee shop) and me (because I was wearing my new bicycle scarf, made by my
> friend). My friends arrived and laughed that I had dragged my bike into the
> shop.
>
> After coffee, we departed and rode up 743 feet of climbing in 46:48, no
> sweat! I parked the Clem in its spot, but left my bags on it, because now
> I’m not so ready to call it “his” anymore. We have something special, that
> big old Clem and me, and I think we might be going more places together.
>
> Has anyone else out there been guilty of stealing a Riv?
> Cheers!
> Leah
>
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[RBW] Coffeeneuring Complete!

[Lum Gim Fong]

I can easily tell how cold it is without listening to snow sounds:

Under 50F.”too cold”.  Br

Keep the reports coming!

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[RBW] Coffeeneuring Complete!

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thanks, Andy and Lum. Andy, one of the ways I estimate temperature is the sound 
of the snow underfoot. I’m not a sound engineer, so I’m unsure of the technical 
way to describe it, but the “sparklier” it is the colder it is. -20˚F sounds 
very different from -10, 0, 10, 20, and 30. When I’m able to confirm with a 
thermometer, I’m accurate to the closest five degrees.

Lum, here we just call it weather, no crisis. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick 

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[Lum Gim Fong]

Wow! That is crisis weather here in Maryland!
Just goes to show what can be done on a bike in the winter.

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[RBW] Coffeeneuring Complete!

[ascpgh]

Wow. Stunning pics documenting the arrival of winter. I can smell the coffee 
now, and hear the unique sound of each day’s snow crunching under your feet.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh 

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[RBW] Coffeeneuring Complete!

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

All seven rides, complete with pipe, coffee, and solitude, logged here:
https://thegrid.ai/withabandon/coffeeneuring-challenge-2018/

With abandon,
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[RBW] Coffeeneuring 4-7

[MountNormal]

Indeed it does help. Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts! 

Best,
  
Stephen

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[RBW] Coffeeneuring 4-7

[Deacon Patrick]

Hey Stephen,

I like the Gunflint for 1) the big side pockets; 2) it is soft bottomed, so 
when I bikepack I can load it less, squich it forward, and carry my tent, 
sleeping bag, and pad on top of the rack nice and solid (strapping it atop a 
SaddleSack is floppy and I never figured out how to change that). The top opens 
up wide and is a non factor.

I have my doubts how long it will survive. The panniers have a few holes in 
them for a year of use, whereas my TourSacks have no holes from multiple years 
of rougher trips. Weather (snow, sleet, rain) is a concern as the closure isn’t 
as well thought out as the SaddleSack. I just keep stuff in there that is fine 
getting wet, but it has been fine so far. I’ve debated the medium SaddleSack 
and if it would leave me enough room to strap on my tent et al.

Hope that helps.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Coffeeneuring 4-7

[MountNormal]

Patrick,
   I attempted to send you a private message but I apparently have no idea as 
to how to accomplish that. That being said I thought I'd just ask on the forum. 
Question: How do you like the Frost River Gunflint? Pros? Cons? How does it 
compare to the medium Saddlesack? (If you've had experience with the sack). It 
seems to me that the Saddlesack would be easier to load/unload with the large 
opening. It seems to me that the inner flap of the Saddlesack is "more thought 
out" than the Gunflint. It seems to me that that the saddle attachment points 
at the far rear of the Saddlesack would be superior to the mid-of-the-bag 
saddle attachment of the Gunflint. But then, the Gunflint just looks WAY 
cooler! Anywho, just wanted to hear/read your two cents.

Stephen

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[RBW] Coffeeneuring 4-7

[Deacon Patrick]

I hadn’t realized I hadn’t posted these, so here they are in one go. Running, 
biking, coffee, pipe, wannabe three-speeding, fog, chill, sun, and wind! Enjoy!
https://thegrid.ai/withabandon/coffeeneuring-5-6-and-7

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Coffeeneuring #3

[Deacon Patrick]

In which I celebrate the absence of tourists with a bike, a run, a pipe, and a 
wee cuppa.
http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/above-the-garden-of-eden-coffeeneuring-3

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[RBW] Coffeeneuring #2

[Wayne Naha]

You've got the best scenery out there, Patrick.  Thanks for sharing some of it.

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Re: [RBW] Coffeeneuring #2

[Ed Fausto]

As always, nice photos Patrick!
Makes me wish that I can go back on that side of the pond and tour the
Great Divide.

Regards,
Ed Fausto
Manila, Philippines

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[RBW] Coffeeneuring #2

[Deacon Patrick]

http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/coffeeneuring-2

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[RBW] Coffeeneuring ride.

[hsmitham]

Hot off the presses.

Here 


Tail Winds,

~Hugh

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Re: [RBW] Coffeeneuring Ride on Redwood.

[David Banzer]

I had some concerns when I was riding with Hetres (40mm or so, didn't give 
them a chance to stretch) and recently when I tried the 1.75" Pari Motos 
(actual 38/39mm). Mostly just brushing a shoe when I forgot going around 
tight corners, usually at a slow speed. With the VR Speedsters (actual 
47mm) there really isn't a concern at all. I think I figured it's the same 
overall diameter as a 700x28c tire.
David
Chicago

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> That bike looks great as a B conversion. Any pedal-strike problems with 
> it's relatively low bottom bracket?
>
> On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 8:55 PM, David Banzer  > wrote:
>
>> Short blog post about a short bike ride to get a short cup of coffee.
>> Riv content - took Redwood, freshly shod with A23 wheelset. Vee Rubber 
>> Speedsters back on and feel nice and cushy.
>> http://treetopbags.blogspot.com/2015/10/coffeeneuring-ride-1.html
>> David
>> Chicago
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Re: [RBW] Coffeeneuring Ride on Redwood.

[David Banzer]

During the conversion of the Redwood, I finally came to the realization 
about overall wheel diameter. Granted, larger tires will have more tire 
drop so that will affect overall bb height during riding. However, consider 
the overall wheel diameter of a 700c wheel with a skinny tire - 700cx23mm 
is the same overall diameter as 650bx42mm. It'd be silly to run a 700x23 
tire on a bike with clearances for larger tires, but I doubt many would be 
concerned about bb height as the original wheel size is preserved.
In short - try it out for sure.
I actual prefer the handling of this bike with the 47mm tires rather than 
the 40mm tires as it gets the overall wheel diameter closer to what the 
bike was designed for.
David
Chicago 

On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 10:37:19 AM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I always toy with the idea of a b conversion, but the lowish BB on my bike 
> is a concern. But maybe not so much of one that I shouldn't do it!
> Thanks for the datapoint!
>
> On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 7:55:47 AM UTC-7, David Banzer wrote:
>>
>> I had some concerns when I was riding with Hetres (40mm or so, didn't 
>> give them a chance to stretch) and recently when I tried the 1.75" Pari 
>> Motos (actual 38/39mm). Mostly just brushing a shoe when I forgot going 
>> around tight corners, usually at a slow speed. With the VR Speedsters 
>> (actual 47mm) there really isn't a concern at all. I think I figured it's 
>> the same overall diameter as a 700x28c tire.
>> David
>> Chicago
>>
>> On Sunday, October 4, 2015 at 11:01:12 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> That bike looks great as a B conversion. Any pedal-strike problems with 
>>> it's relatively low bottom bracket?
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 8:55 PM, David Banzer  wrote:
>>>
 Short blog post about a short bike ride to get a short cup of coffee.
 Riv content - took Redwood, freshly shod with A23 wheelset. Vee Rubber 
 Speedsters back on and feel nice and cushy.
 http://treetopbags.blogspot.com/2015/10/coffeeneuring-ride-1.html
 David
 Chicago

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Re: [RBW] Coffeeneuring Ride on Redwood.

[cyclotour...@gmail.com]

I squeeze 32mm tires into my frame, but it's built around a 28mm size. 
Going to a 42B size would drop me down 9mm. That's a chunk of loss there!

But the new me is 100% content with the bike I have, yes I am. 100%, sir!


On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 9:19:42 AM UTC-7, David Banzer wrote:
>
> During the conversion of the Redwood, I finally came to the realization 
> about overall wheel diameter. Granted, larger tires will have more tire 
> drop so that will affect overall bb height during riding. However, consider 
> the overall wheel diameter of a 700c wheel with a skinny tire - 700cx23mm 
> is the same overall diameter as 650bx42mm. It'd be silly to run a 700x23 
> tire on a bike with clearances for larger tires, but I doubt many would be 
> concerned about bb height as the original wheel size is preserved.
> In short - try it out for sure.
> I actual prefer the handling of this bike with the 47mm tires rather than 
> the 40mm tires as it gets the overall wheel diameter closer to what the 
> bike was designed for.
> David
> Chicago 
>
> On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 10:37:19 AM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>>
>> I always toy with the idea of a b conversion, but the lowish BB on my 
>> bike is a concern. But maybe not so much of one that I shouldn't do it!
>> Thanks for the datapoint!
>>
>> On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 7:55:47 AM UTC-7, David Banzer wrote:
>>>
>>> I had some concerns when I was riding with Hetres (40mm or so, didn't 
>>> give them a chance to stretch) and recently when I tried the 1.75" Pari 
>>> Motos (actual 38/39mm). Mostly just brushing a shoe when I forgot going 
>>> around tight corners, usually at a slow speed. With the VR Speedsters 
>>> (actual 47mm) there really isn't a concern at all. I think I figured it's 
>>> the same overall diameter as a 700x28c tire.
>>> David
>>> Chicago
>>>
>>> On Sunday, October 4, 2015 at 11:01:12 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:

 That bike looks great as a B conversion. Any pedal-strike problems with 
 it's relatively low bottom bracket?

 On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 8:55 PM, David Banzer  wrote:

> Short blog post about a short bike ride to get a short cup of coffee.
> Riv content - took Redwood, freshly shod with A23 wheelset. Vee Rubber 
> Speedsters back on and feel nice and cushy.
> http://treetopbags.blogspot.com/2015/10/coffeeneuring-ride-1.html
> David
> Chicago
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Re: [RBW] Coffeeneuring Ride on Redwood.

[cyclotour...@gmail.com]

I always toy with the idea of a b conversion, but the lowish BB on my bike 
is a concern. But maybe not so much of one that I shouldn't do it!
Thanks for the datapoint!

On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 7:55:47 AM UTC-7, David Banzer wrote:
>
> I had some concerns when I was riding with Hetres (40mm or so, didn't give 
> them a chance to stretch) and recently when I tried the 1.75" Pari Motos 
> (actual 38/39mm). Mostly just brushing a shoe when I forgot going around 
> tight corners, usually at a slow speed. With the VR Speedsters (actual 
> 47mm) there really isn't a concern at all. I think I figured it's the same 
> overall diameter as a 700x28c tire.
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Sunday, October 4, 2015 at 11:01:12 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>>
>> That bike looks great as a B conversion. Any pedal-strike problems with 
>> it's relatively low bottom bracket?
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 8:55 PM, David Banzer  wrote:
>>
>>> Short blog post about a short bike ride to get a short cup of coffee.
>>> Riv content - took Redwood, freshly shod with A23 wheelset. Vee Rubber 
>>> Speedsters back on and feel nice and cushy.
>>> http://treetopbags.blogspot.com/2015/10/coffeeneuring-ride-1.html
>>> David
>>> Chicago
>>>
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>> David
>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Coffeeneuring Ride on Redwood.

[David Banzer]

Redwood fit 35mm 700c tires, could possibly squeeze in fenders, but it'd be 
really tight. I believe it would fit Compass' Barlow Pass tires just fine. 
I was content with it set up as a 700c road bike, but I had parts on hand 
to experiment with. I'm riding it a whole lot more with the 650b wheels, 
and will leave it like this indefinitely. I have SKS fenders as well that 
need to be installed. Plenty of room for those.
David
Chicago

On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 11:50:33 AM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I squeeze 32mm tires into my frame, but it's built around a 28mm size. 
> Going to a 42B size would drop me down 9mm. That's a chunk of loss there!
>
> But the new me is 100% content with the bike I have, yes I am. 100%, sir!
>
>
> On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 9:19:42 AM UTC-7, David Banzer wrote:
>>
>> During the conversion of the Redwood, I finally came to the realization 
>> about overall wheel diameter. Granted, larger tires will have more tire 
>> drop so that will affect overall bb height during riding. However, consider 
>> the overall wheel diameter of a 700c wheel with a skinny tire - 700cx23mm 
>> is the same overall diameter as 650bx42mm. It'd be silly to run a 700x23 
>> tire on a bike with clearances for larger tires, but I doubt many would be 
>> concerned about bb height as the original wheel size is preserved.
>> In short - try it out for sure.
>> I actual prefer the handling of this bike with the 47mm tires rather than 
>> the 40mm tires as it gets the overall wheel diameter closer to what the 
>> bike was designed for.
>> David
>> Chicago 
>>
>> On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 10:37:19 AM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I always toy with the idea of a b conversion, but the lowish BB on my 
>>> bike is a concern. But maybe not so much of one that I shouldn't do it!
>>> Thanks for the datapoint!
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 7:55:47 AM UTC-7, David Banzer wrote:

 I had some concerns when I was riding with Hetres (40mm or so, didn't 
 give them a chance to stretch) and recently when I tried the 1.75" Pari 
 Motos (actual 38/39mm). Mostly just brushing a shoe when I forgot going 
 around tight corners, usually at a slow speed. With the VR Speedsters 
 (actual 47mm) there really isn't a concern at all. I think I figured it's 
 the same overall diameter as a 700x28c tire.
 David
 Chicago

 On Sunday, October 4, 2015 at 11:01:12 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
>
> That bike looks great as a B conversion. Any pedal-strike problems 
> with it's relatively low bottom bracket?
>
> On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 8:55 PM, David Banzer  
> wrote:
>
>> Short blog post about a short bike ride to get a short cup of coffee.
>> Riv content - took Redwood, freshly shod with A23 wheelset. Vee 
>> Rubber Speedsters back on and feel nice and cushy.
>> http://treetopbags.blogspot.com/2015/10/coffeeneuring-ride-1.html
>> David
>> Chicago
>>
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>
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>
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>
>
>
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RE: [RBW] Coffeeneuring Ride on Redwood.

[olofstroh]

I have a custom Riv with 80 mm bb drop and 177,5 mm cranks converted to 650B 
(Pari-Motos, 39-40 mm). No long stretch to the ground, but no problem. You can 
always go back to your old wheels, but don´t hesitate to try.

 

Olof Stroh

Uppsala Sweden

 

 

Cyclotourist wrote:

 

I always toy with the idea of a b conversion, but the lowish BB on my bike is a 
concern. But maybe not so much of one that I shouldn't do it!

Thanks for the datapoint!

On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 7:55:47 AM UTC-7, David Banzer wrote:

I had some concerns when I was riding with Hetres (40mm or so, didn't give them 
a chance to stretch) and recently when I tried the 1.75" Pari Motos (actual 
38/39mm). Mostly just brushing a shoe when I forgot going around tight corners, 
usually at a slow speed. With the VR Speedsters (actual 47mm) there really 
isn't a concern at all. I think I figured it's the same overall diameter as a 
700x28c tire.
David
Chicago

On Sunday, October 4, 2015 at 11:01:12 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

That bike looks great as a B conversion. Any pedal-strike problems with it's 
relatively low bottom bracket?

 

 

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Re: [RBW] Coffeeneuring Ride on Redwood.

[cyclotourist]

That bike looks great as a B conversion. Any pedal-strike problems with
it's relatively low bottom bracket?

On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 8:55 PM, David Banzer  wrote:

> Short blog post about a short bike ride to get a short cup of coffee.
> Riv content - took Redwood, freshly shod with A23 wheelset. Vee Rubber
> Speedsters back on and feel nice and cushy.
> http://treetopbags.blogspot.com/2015/10/coffeeneuring-ride-1.html
> David
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[RBW] Coffeeneuring Ride on Redwood.

[David Banzer]

Short blog post about a short bike ride to get a short cup of coffee.
Riv content - took Redwood, freshly shod with A23 wheelset. Vee Rubber 
Speedsters back on and feel nice and cushy.
http://treetopbags.blogspot.com/2015/10/coffeeneuring-ride-1.html
David
Chicago

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[RBW] coffeeneuring

[Eunice Chang]

For those of you who like coffee and bikes, here's my write up for this
year's coffeeneuring challenge:

https://sleepyneko.exposure.co/2014-coffeeneuring-challenge

(Related Riv content: It features Thumper the AHH)

Enjoy,
-E.

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Re: [RBW] coffeeneuring

[Joe Broach]

Eunice,

Thanks for sharing. Looks like you have a great coffee scene there. The
photos are stunning!

Best,
joe broach
portland, or

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 For those of you who like coffee and bikes, here's my write up for this
 year's coffeeneuring challenge:

 https://sleepyneko.exposure.co/2014-coffeeneuring-challenge

 (Related Riv content: It features Thumper the AHH)

 Enjoy,
 -E.

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[RBW] coffeeneuring

[WETH]

I enjoyed your writing and your photographs.  Thanks for sharing.  

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Re: [RBW] coffeeneuring

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Wonderful write up and terrific pictures! While I don't participate in the coffeeneuring challenge, I'm a dedicated Errandonnee participant every year (and a dedicated reader of the Chasing Mailboxes blog). it's so cool that you got to meet Mary!The death of 3 cyclists is a terrible tragedy, and in such a short time frame. It makes me very very sad to hear it. I learned something new - Australian Flat White (I googled it). Now I feel more with it but have never seen it offered in a coffee shop. The mixte is a beautiful bike - who is the builder?Thank you for the post.JoanOn 11/23/14, Eunice Changsleepyn...@gmail.com wrote:For those of you who like coffee and bikes, here's my write up for this year's coffeeneuring challenge:https://sleepyneko.exposure.co/2014-coffeeneuring-challenge(Related Riv content: It features Thumper the AHH)Enjoy,-E.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.



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Re: [RBW] coffeeneuring

[Eunice Chang]

Glad you all liked the post.

The mixte is a custom made by Ezra Caldwell of Fastboy Cycles, who passed
away earlier this year.

-E.

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 Wonderful write up and terrific pictures! While I don't participate in the
 coffeeneuring challenge, I'm a dedicated Errandonnee participant every year
 (and a dedicated reader of the Chasing Mailboxes blog).  it's so cool that
 you got to meet Mary!

 The death of 3 cyclists is a terrible tragedy, and in such a short time
 frame.  It makes me very very sad to hear it.

 I learned something new - Australian Flat White (I googled it).  Now I
 feel more with it but have never seen it offered in a coffee shop.
 The mixte is a beautiful bike - who is the builder?
 Thank you for the post.
 Joan


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 For those of you who like coffee and bikes, here's my write up for this
 year's coffeeneuring challenge:

 https://sleepyneko.exposure.co/2014-coffeeneuring-challenge

 (Related Riv content: It features Thumper the AHH)

 Enjoy,
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