Re: [RBW] cork grips - shellac vs. spar varnish

2015-06-02 Thread Jim Bronson
Spar varnish - is this for boat spars, aircraft wing spars, or both?

On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote:

 I come from a bamboo fly rod background, and we used flexible coatings to
 turn fibrous materials into tough composites - spar varnish, and maybe as
 exotic as mastic varnish on silk thread wraps or to turn an old silk braid
 into a floating fly line.  When I made my first twine wrap on a bike, it
 was natural for me to coat it with spar varnish.  Later wraps, found out
 shellac is awesome for this application because twine wraps on a bike don't
 need to be flexible - twine it, shellac it, and it's good to go and go.
 More than 2 coats would also be a mistake.

 While I haven't tried shellac on cork grips, its use there doesn't make
 sense.  Take a soft grippy material and put a hard slick exoskeleton on it
 - seems to defeat every purpose of a cork grip.
 Three years ago, when I put cork grips on my daughter's upright bike, I
 used spar varnish and here's the result 3 years later - it's soft and
 grippy, and still beads water like a new Ferrari


 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/aaP4110011.jpg


 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/aaP4110005.jpg

 That's the good news - now the bad news:  you have to be patient, because
 it takes 7 days to do this right (hey, it takes a month to mastic-varnish a
 silk fly line).  You want 5 coats, and wait a day between each coat to let
 it soak and cure.  You apply thin coats and of course the cork sucks it
 right up.  Wait a day and apply another.  It won't be until the 4th coat
 that you can see the cork is sealed and you're apply a build-up.  After the
 last coat, give it two days to cure, and it will still feel tacky - don't
 worry.  Take a lint-free cloth and buff it like you're shining shoes.  You
 will be delighted with the result for years...

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Re: [RBW] cork grips - shellac vs. spar varnish

2015-06-02 Thread Ron Mc
any weathering application of a flexible fibrous material that will absorb 
the oils - bamboo fly rods, too - this one was made in 1915 
of course the name came from spars on sailing ships

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/estes/Chama/aP7050087.jpg


On Tuesday, June 2, 2015 at 11:13:25 AM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:

 Spar varnish - is this for boat spars, aircraft wing spars, or both?


  

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[RBW] cork grips - shellac vs. spar varnish

2014-04-12 Thread Ron Mc
I come from a bamboo fly rod background, and we used flexible coatings to 
turn fibrous materials into tough composites - spar varnish, and maybe as 
exotic as mastic varnish on silk thread wraps or to turn an old silk braid 
into a floating fly line.  When I made my first twine wrap on a bike, it 
was natural for me to coat it with spar varnish.  Later wraps, found out 
shellac is awesome for this application because twine wraps on a bike don't 
need to be flexible - twine it, shellac it, and it's good to go and go. 
 More than 2 coats would also be a mistake.  

While I haven't tried shellac on cork grips, its use there doesn't make 
sense.  Take a soft grippy material and put a hard slick exoskeleton on it 
- seems to defeat every purpose of a cork grip.  
Three years ago, when I put cork grips on my daughter's upright bike, I 
used spar varnish and here's the result 3 years later - it's soft and 
grippy, and still beads water like a new Ferrari  


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/aaP4110011.jpg
  

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/aaP4110005.jpg

That's the good news - now the bad news:  you have to be patient, because 
it takes 7 days to do this right (hey, it takes a month to mastic-varnish a 
silk fly line).  You want 5 coats, and wait a day between each coat to let 
it soak and cure.  You apply thin coats and of course the cork sucks it 
right up.  Wait a day and apply another.  It won't be until the 4th coat 
that you can see the cork is sealed and you're apply a build-up.  After the 
last coat, give it two days to cure, and it will still feel tacky - don't 
worry.  Take a lint-free cloth and buff it like you're shining shoes.  You 
will be delighted with the result for years...

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[RBW] cork grips - shellac vs. spar varnish

2014-04-12 Thread Philip Williamson
I feel a trip to the hardware store coming on... That makes cork grips far more 
appealing to me.
I varnished some skateboard pedal decks, but the shellac whitened in the rain. 
Can I spar varnish right over the shellac, or do I need to strip the shellac 
off, first? This is to protect and shine up the bottoms of recycled skateboard 
squares that snap into clipless pedals to make a platform. Is that even a 
legitimate use of that material? 

Thanks,
Philip
www.biketinker.com

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