Re: [RBW] silly question re: cyclometers

[René Sterental]

Nothing silly about the question, not for this geek anyway... :-)

I've been a fan of Garmin units for many years, used Polar before that. The
basic units of 20 years ago left me wanting for more, whereas the latest
Garmin units, even the most basic are really good, especially with the new
sensors that don't require magnets.

What I look for mainly, are Heart Rate and cadence, I get informed on speed
and distance secondarily as part of tracking my improvements and I also
like looking at temperature to quantify how I feel. And, of course, the
gradient. I just like having that data available and correlating my
feelings and perceptions during my rides to the data.

I tried Cyclemeter on my iPhone for a while, and found the use of the
iPhone on the handlebars cumbersome. Also, if I stopped to take photos,
call or text, very often Cyclemeter would pause and I'd be unaware until
some later point when I'd realize it wasn't tracking the ride. It's still
the best iPhone app, but for me the Garmin experience is the most complete.

I have nothing against those who don't like them or just use a basic tool,
but I like the uploading of the rides to track them, look back at past
rides, plan new routes using RideWithGPS and then upload them to the Garmin.

And, I keep screens that are both cluttered with data or minimalists and
alternate as it suits my mood or a particular ride.

Garmin offers different models to suit different needs and preferences.
There are a number of new competitors that seem to be pretty good as well.

René

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> Good ol' map and compass work well for this too, though require a bit more
> mindfulness. And if a phone has GPS and an offline map (I use topomaps),
> location is found in 30 s. just by turning off airplane mode, no matter how
> remote you are. So far I've used this five times, and needed it only two of
> those, and that since 2012 doing tours on great divide MTB trail,
> continental divide trail, and Colorado Trail, all of which have some
> significant head scratchers (usually of the "I know where I am, but where
> do I go from here" variety).
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> But again, its nice when touring, especially in remote areas with no cell
>> service, when you're trying to find your way on countryoads and you need to
>> know how far you've gone so that you can be looking out for that unmarked
>> right turn you're supposed to make...
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 9:07:14 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>>
>>> I use the simplest one possible. None.
>>>
>>> Ask yourself: what do I REALLY need to know as I ride? Does it truly
>>> matter to me that I see my speed? My average? Does any of that information
>>> help me enjoy the ride? Or does it have me riding to the numbers? Pushing
>>> myself instead of "just riding"?
>>>
>>> The reality is that if you don't use a computer, you can still track
>>> basic info like distance and time (and thus average speed) with a clock and
>>> basic map. If you have a smart phone, or watch, you can track those in a
>>> general way on the ride.
>>>
>>> I find technology is WAY overrated and am far happier riding without the
>>> numbers in my face.
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 9:18:51 AM UTC-6, bluebirdonabicycle wrote:

 Maybe its my age but its a confusing world looking at the many
 different cyclometers (or whatever they are called)
 Im looking for something wireless, simple that has the basic
 (important) features likeHow fast? Distance? Total miles?
 But well built.
 Most I look at seem cluttered with endless features.
 Any opinions from those who have traveled this road?

 BBOB

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Re: [RBW] silly question re: cyclometers

[David Hallerman]

The Padrone has a bigger screen than the Micro Wireless, but uses the same 
mount and transmitter.

You can simply swap out one for the other.

> On Jul 26, 2016, at 2:42 PM, 'Mark Etze' via RBW Owners Bunch 
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> 
> 
> Not sure what the difference is between the Cateye Padrone and Cateye Micro 
> Wireless, but I have been using the Micro Wireless on 2 bikes and they work 
> great. I strap it to the top tube to pick uip the rear wheel for the one bike 
> I use on a trainer and also ride outside. Cateye computers seem to be the 
> easiest to set up for me.
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Re: [RBW] silly question re: cyclometers

[Tim Gavin]

I use Strava on my iPhone to track my rides.  But I don't refer to it en
route.  Also, Strava/GPS seems to drain the battery significantly, so it's
not a good solution for very long rides.  (Although, I've solved the
battery problem with the USB charge off my Luxos U).

I use a simple cyclometer on most of my bikes, usually a sub-$50 Cateye
computer.

I prefer to have a cyclometer for the following reasons:
1) distance, for navigation.  If I'm on an organized ride with
mile/distance markers, my cyclometer can tell me where I am.  That's a nice
mental boost, especially in the back half of a very long/hot day.
2) time of day.  I usually keep the clock display up.  Another aid to
mental orientation, and a reminder of whether I'm on schedule or not
(important when trying to get to a campsite before dark).
3) speed, for entertainment/encouragement.  I'm a big fella so I bomb down
hills.  It's fun to see my high score.  Also, I have a tendency to settle
into a slowish 13-14 mph road speed once I'm tired, and the cyclometer
reminds me to pick up the pace a bit (back to 16-18 mph if I can).

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Tim Butterfield 
wrote:

> My currently cycle computer is my iPhone 5S on a QuadLock mount running
> the Wahoo Fitness app and the Wahoo Tickr X and Blue SC sensors.  I do not
> often refer to it while riding, but I do like having the data available for
> after ride comparisons.  (This ride felt harder.  Was it?)  I also like
> that the Wahoo Fitness app supports uploading data to a wide variety of web
> sites.
>
> As much as I like this combination, I'm a bit torn about whether to use it
> on my soon to arrive AHH.  I will be getting a Garmin Varia Rear View Radar
> tail light for that bike and I'm not yet sure if I want to use that with
> just the radar read out display or maybe connect it to a Garmin cycling
> computer.  I'm currently leaning towards using it with an Garmin Edge 820.
> If you want reviews on a variety of devices, check out the
> http://www.dcrainmaker.com/ site.
>
> Tim
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 8:18 AM, bluebirdonabicycle <
> gentlemanonabicy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Maybe its my age but its a confusing world looking at the many different
>> cyclometers (or whatever they are called)
>> Im looking for something wireless, simple that has the basic (important)
>> features likeHow fast? Distance? Total miles?
>> But well built.
>> Most I look at seem cluttered with endless features.
>> Any opinions from those who have traveled this road?
>>
>> BBOB
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Re: [RBW] silly question re: cyclometers

['Mark Etze' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Not sure what the difference is between the Cateye Padrone and Cateye Micro 
Wireless, but I have been using the Micro Wireless on 2 bikes and they work 
great. I strap it to the top tube to pick uip the rear wheel for the one 
bike I use on a trainer and also ride outside. Cateye computers seem to be 
the easiest to set up for me.

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Re: [RBW] silly question re: cyclometers

[Tim Butterfield]

My currently cycle computer is my iPhone 5S on a QuadLock mount running the
Wahoo Fitness app and the Wahoo Tickr X and Blue SC sensors.  I do not
often refer to it while riding, but I do like having the data available for
after ride comparisons.  (This ride felt harder.  Was it?)  I also like
that the Wahoo Fitness app supports uploading data to a wide variety of web
sites.

As much as I like this combination, I'm a bit torn about whether to use it
on my soon to arrive AHH.  I will be getting a Garmin Varia Rear View Radar
tail light for that bike and I'm not yet sure if I want to use that with
just the radar read out display or maybe connect it to a Garmin cycling
computer.  I'm currently leaning towards using it with an Garmin Edge 820.
If you want reviews on a variety of devices, check out the
http://www.dcrainmaker.com/ site.

Tim

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 8:18 AM, bluebirdonabicycle <
gentlemanonabicy...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Maybe its my age but its a confusing world looking at the many different
> cyclometers (or whatever they are called)
> Im looking for something wireless, simple that has the basic (important)
> features likeHow fast? Distance? Total miles?
> But well built.
> Most I look at seem cluttered with endless features.
> Any opinions from those who have traveled this road?
>
> BBOB
>
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Re: [RBW] silly question re: cyclometers

[WETH]

A second vote for cyclemeter app!

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Re: [RBW] silly question re: cyclometers

[Eric Norris]

I like using a computer, and I’ve used a lot of different kinds. In my opinion, 
the best computer ever made was the Avocet 50, which sadly has been out of 
production for many years. Big numbers, easy to use, with elevation gain. I 
wrote about it here:

http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com/2010/03/in-praise-of-avocet-50.html 

I still have one that I’m saving for a future project.

Nowadays, I’ve turned to GPS units. I have used Garmin units since about 2005, 
but switched to a Wahoo Elemnt this year. GPS units don’t need wires, or spoke 
magnets, or calibration. With a few spare mounts you can swap one unit from 
bike to bike in seconds. 

Most GPS units also have the ability to set up the display to show only what 
you need. The Elemnt uses a smartphone app that is particularly easy to use.

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> On Jul 26, 2016, at 8:18 AM, bluebirdonabicycle 
>  wrote:
> 
> Maybe its my age but its a confusing world looking at the many different 
> cyclometers (or whatever they are called) 
> Im looking for something wireless, simple that has the basic (important) 
> features likeHow fast? Distance? Total miles?
> But well built. 
> Most I look at seem cluttered with endless features.
> Any opinions from those who have traveled this road?
> 
> BBOB
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Re: [RBW] silly question re: cyclometers

[Lungimsam]

Sigma  Pure 1 ATS
New model for 2016
Large display
Only one button, wireless.
Only shows:
Current speed
Miles
Total miles
Riding time
Total riding time

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Re: [RBW] silly question re: cyclometers

[David Hallerman]

Oh, there are three levels of Cateye Padrone, and I was pointing to the 
least complex, least costly one.



On 7/26/16 12:47 PM, David Hallerman wrote:

Cateye Padrone.

Basic, simple, large, well-built.

- David Hallerman -

On Jul 26, 2016, at 11:18 AM, bluebirdonabicycle 
> 
wrote:


Maybe its my age but its a confusing world looking at the many 
different cyclometers (or whatever they are called)
Im looking for something wireless, simple that has the basic 
(important) features likeHow fast? Distance? Total miles?

But well built.
Most I look at seem cluttered with endless features.
Any opinions from those who have traveled this road?

BBOB
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Re: [RBW] silly question re: cyclometers

[David Hallerman]

Cateye Padrone.

Basic, simple, large, well-built.

- David Hallerman -

> On Jul 26, 2016, at 11:18 AM, bluebirdonabicycle 
>  wrote:
> 
> Maybe its my age but its a confusing world looking at the many different 
> cyclometers (or whatever they are called) 
> Im looking for something wireless, simple that has the basic (important) 
> features likeHow fast? Distance? Total miles?
> But well built. 
> Most I look at seem cluttered with endless features.
> Any opinions from those who have traveled this road?
> 
> BBOB
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Re: [RBW] silly question re: cyclometers

[Patrick Moore]

If you have a smartphone, Cyclemeter works well, even the free version,
which does far more than I need.

Other Patrick's practice is far too zen and mellow for me, but cyclemeter
or somesuch at least requires no special gadget for each bike.

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 9:18 AM, bluebirdonabicycle <
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> Maybe its my age but its a confusing world looking at the many different
> cyclometers (or whatever they are called)
> Im looking for something wireless, simple that has the basic (important)
> features likeHow fast? Distance? Total miles?
> But well built.
> Most I look at seem cluttered with endless features.
> Any opinions from those who have traveled this road?
>
> BBOB
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[RBW] silly question re: cyclometers

[bluebirdonabicycle]

Maybe its my age but its a confusing world looking at the many different 
cyclometers (or whatever they are called) 
Im looking for something wireless, simple that has the basic (important) 
features likeHow fast? Distance? Total miles?
But well built. 
Most I look at seem cluttered with endless features.
Any opinions from those who have traveled this road?

BBOB

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