Re: [RBW] New-to-me Ram - Need tires!

2013-05-09 Thread Kieran J
I've heard good things otherwise on the Nomads. At least, in relation to 
what they cost (about $22 each). If they don't work or feel too squirrelly, 
oh well.

That said, if anyone has a set of new or lightly used JBGs, I'd probably 
take those too !

KJ



On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 8:43:58 PM UTC-4, Mike Schiller wrote:

 I have a pair of 35mmNomads. On 20mm wide rims they measure ~32.5. I 
 didn't like them. They always felt unsettled.

 On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 1:38:19 PM UTC-7, Minh wrote:

 Kieran,

 Let us know on the actual measurements, i did not see that these measure 
 so much smaller then labeled.

 On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 3:05:28 PM UTC-4, Kieran J wrote:

 Yeah, will probably go without fenders for this one. I have other 
 fendered bikes for poor weather riding.

 Going to try the Resist Nomad 700x35 (31 actual) to start. Cheap enough 
 to try 'em out for fun. I've heard people say that the Ram is most stable 
 (or, was meant for) 700x28's, but I can't say no to that wasted bit of 
 clearance...

 KJ



 On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 2:12:42 PM UTC-4, Larry Powers wrote:

 After nearly 10 years of riding a Rambouillet I have found that with 
 fenders the bike is built for 28mm tires.  Yes I did get slightly bigger 
 tires on for awhile, Grand Bois 30mm,  but everything had to be just 
 right.  I am feeding mine a steady diet of Ruffy Tuffy tires.

 Without fenders the Jack browns would probably be a great choice.

 Larry Powers 
  
 Get a bicycle.  You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain


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 Date: Tue, 7 May 2013 15:39:12 -0700
 From: kjo...@gmail.com
 To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [RBW] New-to-me Ram - Need tires!

 Hi all,

 New Riv owner, long time lurker.

 Received and built up a 66cm Rambouillet today (Thanks Ryan!). Moved 
 all the parts over from my old ride, and things are feeling good.

 However, I'm still running the 25mm Bontrager slicks. It's all that 
 would fit on the Trek 710 that's now up for grabs. Anyone out there got 
 some ~32mm light duty gumwall tires lying around?

 I'm talking Jack Brown Greens, Grand Bois Cypres 30's or maybe even the 
 Challenge Eroica.

 And sorry about the loud colour palette in the photo. Yes, I promise to 
 change the bar tape- maybe pale blue?

 Cheers,


 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-SEAW5zsehOk/UYmCLP67OAI/ADI/1Ji5shM3Cfg/s1600/IMG_1947.JPG
 Kieran

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Re: [RBW] New-to-me Ram - Need tires!

2013-05-09 Thread PATRICK MOORE
The Kojaks run a bit small -- haven't measured those on the Ram, but those
on the narrow semi-aero Sun rims on the '03 measure 32 mm; I assume those
on the Ram, on slightly wider rims, run at least the same. At any rate,
wider than 28 mm which was the OP's cutoff for fenders. I think there was
some talk about a gradual increase in fender clearance on this model?

(My 27 mm P-Roubaix run about 30 mm.)

On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:51 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Do some Rams have more clearance than others? I haven't tried fenders
 yet, but on my 58 there is surely a lot of gap over 35 mm tires:


 https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/RAMBOUILLETFINALLYBUILT040613#5863925294024508226


 https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/RAMBOUILLETFINALLYBUILT040613#5863925386730853778


 Patrick,

 There's 35, and then there's 35. Schwalbes I've owned tend to run about
 10% under width. Have you measured those 'jaks? I seem to remember your 26
 versions were undersized...

 Best,
 joe broach
 portland, or

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RE: [RBW] New-to-me Ram - Need tires!

2013-05-08 Thread Larry Powers
After nearly 10 years of riding a Rambouillet I have found that with fenders 
the bike is built for 28mm tires.  Yes I did get slightly bigger tires on for 
awhile, Grand Bois 30mm,  but everything had to be just right.  I am feeding 
mine a steady diet of Ruffy Tuffy tires.

Without fenders the Jack browns would probably be a great choice.

Larry Powers 

 

Get a bicycle.  You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain


Date: Tue, 7 May 2013 15:39:12 -0700
From: kjo...@gmail.com
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] New-to-me Ram - Need tires!

Hi all,
New Riv owner, long time lurker.
Received and built up a 66cm Rambouillet today (Thanks Ryan!). Moved all the 
parts over from my old ride, and things are feeling good.
However, I'm still running the 25mm Bontrager slicks. It's all that would fit 
on the Trek 710 that's now up for grabs. Anyone out there got some ~32mm light 
duty gumwall tires lying around?
I'm talking Jack Brown Greens, Grand Bois Cypres 30's or maybe even the 
Challenge Eroica.
And sorry about the loud colour palette in the photo. Yes, I promise to change 
the bar tape- maybe pale blue?
Cheers,
Kieran



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Re: [RBW] New-to-me Ram - Need tires!

2013-05-08 Thread Kieran J
Yeah, will probably go without fenders for this one. I have other fendered 
bikes for poor weather riding.

Going to try the Resist Nomad 700x35 (31 actual) to start. Cheap enough to 
try 'em out for fun. I've heard people say that the Ram is most stable (or, 
was meant for) 700x28's, but I can't say no to that wasted bit of 
clearance...

KJ



On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 2:12:42 PM UTC-4, Larry Powers wrote:

 After nearly 10 years of riding a Rambouillet I have found that with 
 fenders the bike is built for 28mm tires.  Yes I did get slightly bigger 
 tires on for awhile, Grand Bois 30mm,  but everything had to be just 
 right.  I am feeding mine a steady diet of Ruffy Tuffy tires.

 Without fenders the Jack browns would probably be a great choice.

 Larry Powers 
  
 Get a bicycle.  You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain


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 From: kjo...@gmail.com javascript:
 To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:
 Subject: [RBW] New-to-me Ram - Need tires!

 Hi all,

 New Riv owner, long time lurker.

 Received and built up a 66cm Rambouillet today (Thanks Ryan!). Moved all 
 the parts over from my old ride, and things are feeling good.

 However, I'm still running the 25mm Bontrager slicks. It's all that would 
 fit on the Trek 710 that's now up for grabs. Anyone out there got some 
 ~32mm light duty gumwall tires lying around?

 I'm talking Jack Brown Greens, Grand Bois Cypres 30's or maybe even the 
 Challenge Eroica.

 And sorry about the loud colour palette in the photo. Yes, I promise to 
 change the bar tape- maybe pale blue?

 Cheers,


 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-SEAW5zsehOk/UYmCLP67OAI/ADI/1Ji5shM3Cfg/s1600/IMG_1947.JPG
 Kieran

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Re: [RBW] New-to-me Ram - Need tires!

2013-05-08 Thread Minh
Kieran,

Let us know on the actual measurements, i did not see that these measure so 
much smaller then labeled.

On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 3:05:28 PM UTC-4, Kieran J wrote:

 Yeah, will probably go without fenders for this one. I have other fendered 
 bikes for poor weather riding.

 Going to try the Resist Nomad 700x35 (31 actual) to start. Cheap enough to 
 try 'em out for fun. I've heard people say that the Ram is most stable (or, 
 was meant for) 700x28's, but I can't say no to that wasted bit of 
 clearance...

 KJ



 On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 2:12:42 PM UTC-4, Larry Powers wrote:

 After nearly 10 years of riding a Rambouillet I have found that with 
 fenders the bike is built for 28mm tires.  Yes I did get slightly bigger 
 tires on for awhile, Grand Bois 30mm,  but everything had to be just 
 right.  I am feeding mine a steady diet of Ruffy Tuffy tires.

 Without fenders the Jack browns would probably be a great choice.

 Larry Powers 
  
 Get a bicycle.  You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain


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 Date: Tue, 7 May 2013 15:39:12 -0700
 From: kjo...@gmail.com
 To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [RBW] New-to-me Ram - Need tires!

 Hi all,

 New Riv owner, long time lurker.

 Received and built up a 66cm Rambouillet today (Thanks Ryan!). Moved all 
 the parts over from my old ride, and things are feeling good.

 However, I'm still running the 25mm Bontrager slicks. It's all that would 
 fit on the Trek 710 that's now up for grabs. Anyone out there got some 
 ~32mm light duty gumwall tires lying around?

 I'm talking Jack Brown Greens, Grand Bois Cypres 30's or maybe even the 
 Challenge Eroica.

 And sorry about the loud colour palette in the photo. Yes, I promise to 
 change the bar tape- maybe pale blue?

 Cheers,


 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-SEAW5zsehOk/UYmCLP67OAI/ADI/1Ji5shM3Cfg/s1600/IMG_1947.JPG
 Kieran

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Re: [RBW] New-to-me Ram - Need tires!

2013-05-08 Thread James Warren
Kieren,Despite the word on the street, I'll let you know that for me, the Ram with Jack Brown Greeen 700x 33.333 is just the bee's knee's.I have a lot of nice bikes, and the Ram, so equipped, keeps coming back to being my favorite of them. It's a 64 cm frame and I'm about 225 lbs. I have the handlebar about 2 centimeters lower than seat height.Your tire choice sounds good. I've considered trying some 700x30's on my Ram, but my results have been so nice for over five years now that I always stick with the Jack Browns.Enjoy the bike. It sounds like it should be pretty similar to mine. I use mine for long day rides and for metric centuries and for metric centuries like Levi's Fondo that goes on Willow Creek dirt road and for other rides with fire road options. I have also used it for two-night overnighters when I'm not bringing any cooking gear. For that purpose, I've put the Atlantis's rear wheel on the Ram and mainly loaded the rear with a rack and also used a very small handlebar bag. Such mini-tours on the Ram are excellent. I put on the Atlantis rear wheel with its extra spokes and 135 mm rear width. The Ram's rear spacing of 132.5 mm is wonderful for such versatility. (It's everyday "road" rear wheel is 130 mm with 32 spokes. Also, the Atlantis and Ram were both set up with identical Shimano 9-speed cassettes so that I could do this wheel-lending.) Also, about a quarter of my daily commutes are on the Ram. All of the above uses have been optimized through use of the Jack Brown Green tire. It's an outstanding bike.-Jim-Original Message-
From: Kieran J <kjo...@gmail.com>
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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] New-to-me Ram - Need tires!

Yeah, will probably go without fenders for this one. I have other fendered bikes for poor weather riding.Going to try the Resist Nomad 700x35 (31 actual) to start. Cheap enough to try 'em out for fun. I've heard people say that the Ram is most stable (or, was meant for) 700x28's, but I can't say no to that wasted bit of clearance...KJOn Wednesday, May 8, 2013 2:12:42 PM UTC-4, Larry Powers wrote:


After nearly 10 years of riding a Rambouillet I have found that with fenders the bike is built for 28mm tires. Yes I did get slightly bigger tires on for awhile, Grand Bois 30mm, but everything had to be just right. I am feeding mine a steady diet of Ruffy Tuffy tires.Without fenders the Jack browns would probably be a great choice.Larry Powers 

Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live. - Mark TwainDate: Tue, 7 May 2013 15:39:12 -0700From: kjo...@gmail.comTo: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comSubject: [RBW] New-to-me Ram - Need tires!Hi all,New Riv owner, long time lurker.Received and built up a 66cm Rambouillet today (Thanks Ryan!). Moved all the parts over from my old ride, and things are feeling good.However, I'm still running the 25mm Bontrager slicks. It's all that would fit on the Trek 710 that's now up for grabs. Anyone out there got some ~32mm light duty gumwall tires lying around?I'm talking Jack Brown Greens, Grand Bois Cypres 30's or maybe even the Challenge Eroica.And sorry about the loud colour palette in the photo. Yes, I promise to change the bar tape- maybe pale blue?Cheers,Kieran



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Re: [RBW] New-to-me Ram - Need tires!

2013-05-08 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Do some Rams have more clearance than others? I haven't tried fenders yet,
but on my 58 there is surely a lot of gap over 35 mm tires:

https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/RAMBOUILLETFINALLYBUILT040613#5863925294024508226

https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/RAMBOUILLETFINALLYBUILT040613#5863925386730853778

On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Larry Powers lapower...@hotmail.comwrote:

 After nearly 10 years of riding a Rambouillet I have found that with
 fenders the bike is built for 28mm tires.  Yes I did get slightly bigger
 tires on for awhile, Grand Bois 30mm,  but everything had to be just
 right.  I am feeding mine a steady diet of Ruffy Tuffy tires.

 Without fenders the Jack browns would probably be a great choice.

 Larry Powers

 Get a bicycle.  You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain


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 Date: Tue, 7 May 2013 15:39:12 -0700
 From: kjo...@gmail.com
 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [RBW] New-to-me Ram - Need tires!


 Hi all,

 New Riv owner, long time lurker.

 Received and built up a 66cm Rambouillet today (Thanks Ryan!). Moved all
 the parts over from my old ride, and things are feeling good.

 However, I'm still running the 25mm Bontrager slicks. It's all that would
 fit on the Trek 710 that's now up for grabs. Anyone out there got some
 ~32mm light duty gumwall tires lying around?

 I'm talking Jack Brown Greens, Grand Bois Cypres 30's or maybe even the
 Challenge Eroica.

 And sorry about the loud colour palette in the photo. Yes, I promise to
 change the bar tape- maybe pale blue?

 Cheers,


 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-SEAW5zsehOk/UYmCLP67OAI/ADI/1Ji5shM3Cfg/s1600/IMG_1947.JPG
 Kieran

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Re: [RBW] New-to-me Ram - Need tires!

2013-05-08 Thread Joe Broach
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:51 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Do some Rams have more clearance than others? I haven't tried fenders yet,
 but on my 58 there is surely a lot of gap over 35 mm tires:


 https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/RAMBOUILLETFINALLYBUILT040613#5863925294024508226


 https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/RAMBOUILLETFINALLYBUILT040613#5863925386730853778


Patrick,

There's 35, and then there's 35. Schwalbes I've owned tend to run about
10% under width. Have you measured those 'jaks? I seem to remember your 26
versions were undersized...

Best,
joe broach
portland, or

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Re: [RBW] New-to-me Ram - Need tires!

2013-05-08 Thread Mike Schiller
I have a pair of 35mmNomads. On 20mm wide rims they measure ~32.5. I 
didn't like them. They always felt unsettled.

On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 1:38:19 PM UTC-7, Minh wrote:

 Kieran,

 Let us know on the actual measurements, i did not see that these measure 
 so much smaller then labeled.

 On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 3:05:28 PM UTC-4, Kieran J wrote:

 Yeah, will probably go without fenders for this one. I have other 
 fendered bikes for poor weather riding.

 Going to try the Resist Nomad 700x35 (31 actual) to start. Cheap enough 
 to try 'em out for fun. I've heard people say that the Ram is most stable 
 (or, was meant for) 700x28's, but I can't say no to that wasted bit of 
 clearance...

 KJ



 On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 2:12:42 PM UTC-4, Larry Powers wrote:

 After nearly 10 years of riding a Rambouillet I have found that with 
 fenders the bike is built for 28mm tires.  Yes I did get slightly bigger 
 tires on for awhile, Grand Bois 30mm,  but everything had to be just 
 right.  I am feeding mine a steady diet of Ruffy Tuffy tires.

 Without fenders the Jack browns would probably be a great choice.

 Larry Powers 
  
 Get a bicycle.  You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain


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 Date: Tue, 7 May 2013 15:39:12 -0700
 From: kjo...@gmail.com
 To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [RBW] New-to-me Ram - Need tires!

 Hi all,

 New Riv owner, long time lurker.

 Received and built up a 66cm Rambouillet today (Thanks Ryan!). Moved all 
 the parts over from my old ride, and things are feeling good.

 However, I'm still running the 25mm Bontrager slicks. It's all that 
 would fit on the Trek 710 that's now up for grabs. Anyone out there got 
 some ~32mm light duty gumwall tires lying around?

 I'm talking Jack Brown Greens, Grand Bois Cypres 30's or maybe even the 
 Challenge Eroica.

 And sorry about the loud colour palette in the photo. Yes, I promise to 
 change the bar tape- maybe pale blue?

 Cheers,


 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-SEAW5zsehOk/UYmCLP67OAI/ADI/1Ji5shM3Cfg/s1600/IMG_1947.JPG
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