Re: [RBW] Re: Two posts on our site
Wide, fat, 622 slick on the rear, skinny, little 406 tire in front, looong fork with huge rake On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Patrick, who's to say you have to get both tires the same? Get one of each! While I thought I was kidding . come to think of it , why not? It's funny how we assume we need the same tire front and rear, but the two serve totally different functions and ride completely different. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Two posts on our site
Well that's...not cool! Did he say why he went to the other store? Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com on behalf of Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery Sent: Fri 10/29/2010 7:24 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Two posts on our site My first bike shop job was at one of the larger shops in the area, and the owner is/was a pretty hard-headed, sharp-elbowed businessman. I remember one time hearing him telling an aspiring-but-procrastinating customer I'm not operating a museum. That has stuck with me over the years - in this business I can have nice bikes on display and offer lots of good advice to anybody who comes through the door, but merchandise has to be sold and cash has to flow in. Tire-kickers and gawkers need to be subsidized by the people who buy stuff. Recently my staff and I spent a couple hours with a customer, answering questions, letting him ride different bikes, etc. On his third call, he started asking about different handlebars, and I answered his questions based on my experience. Ten minutes into the call he tells me he decided to buy the bike, which I had in stock, from another place. I just remembered, I'm not operating a museum (or, for that matter, a free consulting business), and the remainder of the conversation was incredibly brief. I am glad that I got off the phone quickly, because I was somewhat angry about it... On Oct 29, 6:02 pm, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote: Jim Hill's comments remind me, for some reason, of a quote they used to hang on the wall in City Lights Bookstore, in SF: People who say they love poetry and never buy any are a bunch of cheap sons-of-bitches. - attributed variously to Kenneth Patchen and Lawrence Ferlinghetti Hope that doesn't offend anyone, it's offered in humor. Anyway I needed some new woolie stuff, so I ordered it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. winmail.dat
Re: [RBW] Re: Two posts on our site
Thanks for this. Can you point me to the Schwalbe speed chart? I am now torn between the Supremes and the 50 mm Liteskin Big Apple ... I know the 60 BAs are very nice rolling for their width, softeness and bulk. On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, No the Marathon Supremes are not dogs. But, it depends on your definition of a dog tire! From other forums I participate in, lots of folks use them and they are quick rolling tires. You can look in Schwalbes speed chart for each tire too, the Supremes are the best rolling of all the Marathons except the Racer. But hey, 40mm tires are 40mm tires. They are 28's, and will never be like them. It's mostly a matter of physics. Look at specs. The weight, tread and compound pretty much tell the story. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Two posts on our site
Thanks -- very useful. On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: With each tire description there is a little chart Schwalbe shows. http://www.schwalbetires.com/sites/all/definitions//Evaluation.html http://www.schwalbetires.com/bike_tires/road_tires/toughest http://www.schwalbetires.com/bike_tires/road_tires/faster On Oct 30, 11:50 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for this. Can you point me to the Schwalbe speed chart? I am now torn between the Supremes and the 50 mm Liteskin Big Apple ... I know the 60 BAs are very nice rolling for their width, softeness and bulk. On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, No the Marathon Supremes are not dogs. But, it depends on your definition of a dog tire! From other forums I participate in, lots of folks use them and they are quick rolling tires. You can look in Schwalbes speed chart for each tire too, the Supremes are the best rolling of all the Marathons except the Racer. But hey, 40mm tires are 40mm tires. They are 28's, and will never be like them. It's mostly a matter of physics. Look at specs. The weight, tread and compound pretty much tell the story. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Two posts on our site
SOMEWHAT angry? Who raised that moron? -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 7:24 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Two posts on our site My first bike shop job was at one of the larger shops in the area, and the owner is/was a pretty hard-headed, sharp-elbowed businessman. I remember one time hearing him telling an aspiring-but-procrastinating customer I'm not operating a museum. That has stuck with me over the years - in this business I can have nice bikes on display and offer lots of good advice to anybody who comes through the door, but merchandise has to be sold and cash has to flow in. Tire-kickers and gawkers need to be subsidized by the people who buy stuff. Recently my staff and I spent a couple hours with a customer, answering questions, letting him ride different bikes, etc. On his third call, he started asking about different handlebars, and I answered his questions based on my experience. Ten minutes into the call he tells me he decided to buy the bike, which I had in stock, from another place. I just remembered, I'm not operating a museum (or, for that matter, a free consulting business), and the remainder of the conversation was incredibly brief. I am glad that I got off the phone quickly, because I was somewhat angry about it... On Oct 29, 6:02 pm, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote: Jim Hill's comments remind me, for some reason, of a quote they used to hang on the wall in City Lights Bookstore, in SF: People who say they love poetry and never buy any are a bunch of cheap sons-of-bitches. - attributed variously to Kenneth Patchen and Lawrence Ferlinghetti Hope that doesn't offend anyone, it's offered in humor. Anyway I needed some new woolie stuff, so I ordered it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Two posts on our site
Patrick, I have both and aside from telling that the supremes weigh significantly less, I can't really tell if they roll ant faster on my regular commute of pavement and gravel. My max speed on the downhills seems to be the same. René Sent from my iPhone 4 On Oct 30, 2010, at 8:50 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for this. Can you point me to the Schwalbe speed chart? I am now torn between the Supremes and the 50 mm Liteskin Big Apple ... I know the 60 BAs are very nice rolling for their width, softeness and bulk. On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, No the Marathon Supremes are not dogs. But, it depends on your definition of a dog tire! From other forums I participate in, lots of folks use them and they are quick rolling tires. You can look in Schwalbes speed chart for each tire too, the Supremes are the best rolling of all the Marathons except the Racer. But hey, 40mm tires are 40mm tires. They are 28's, and will never be like them. It's mostly a matter of physics. Look at specs. The weight, tread and compound pretty much tell the story. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Two posts on our site
Thanks, Rene; one more small + for the BAs, as far as I am concerned. Patrick Moore, who hit 36.5 mph down the usual, 4/10 mile S bend hill this morning on 60 mm BAs at 12/17 psi. On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, I have both and aside from telling that the supremes weigh significantly less, I can't really tell if they roll ant faster on my regular commute of pavement and gravel. My max speed on the downhills seems to be the same. René Sent from my iPhone 4 On Oct 30, 2010, at 8:50 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for this. Can you point me to the Schwalbe speed chart? I am now torn between the Supremes and the 50 mm Liteskin Big Apple ... I know the 60 BAs are very nice rolling for their width, softeness and bulk. On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, No the Marathon Supremes are not dogs. But, it depends on your definition of a dog tire! From other forums I participate in, lots of folks use them and they are quick rolling tires. You can look in Schwalbes speed chart for each tire too, the Supremes are the best rolling of all the Marathons except the Racer. But hey, 40mm tires are 40mm tires. They are 28's, and will never be like them. It's mostly a matter of physics. Look at specs. The weight, tread and compound pretty much tell the story. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Two posts on our site
+1 on the Mara Sups being great climbers and smooth rollers, that occasionally (often often) feel like they are filled with lead (on a SH). andrew On Oct 30, 2010, at 6:07 PM, EricP wrote: First caveat - I have not used the 700xanything Big Apples. Only the 26 inch version. Second, have used the Marathon Supremes in both 26 and 700 versions. Have the latter 700x40 on the Sam Hillborne. I find the Supremes a better climbing tire. My wife feels the Liteskin 26 inch Big Apple is a better tire than the Supreme. She is not as nuts as the rest of us, but has her own preference in tires. That being said, the Sam Hillborne next year will probably be set up with Paselas. The Supremes from time to time feel like they are filled with concrete. Can't figure it out. But the wheels just don't wanna roll. Eric Platt On Oct 30, 3:40 pm, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Patrick, who's to say you have to get both tires the same? Get one of each! While I thought I was kidding . come to think of it , why not? It's funny how we assume we need the same tire front and rear, but the two serve totally different functions and ride completely different. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Two posts on our site
That's interesting. I rode the Marathon Extremes (discontinued by Riv I believe) on the Atlantis today, rode on pavement and climbed on tacky dirt, and they just felt great. I know these things are nonlinear, but I just thought I'd give you some data. -Jim W. p.s. I ate ribs and drank beer in the middle of the ride. Maybe that was the key factor. Still pumped about today's ride. Beautiful day in So. Cal. Totally unplanned, sorry I don't have photos. -Original Message- From: EricP ericpl...@aol.com The Supremes from time to time feel like they are filled with concrete. Can't figure it out. But the wheels just don't wanna roll. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
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Stupid Giants On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:50 AM, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote: Grant's discussion about salary and the SF Giants got me to thinking. Barry Zito is being paid $18 million for this season. He pitched 199 innings. That means he got paid $90 thousand for each inning he pitched. If he averaged 25 pitches per inning, he was getting paid about $3500 per pitch. And now he is sitting on the bench cause he's not very good, and to be a spectator he is getting paid about $90 thousand per game. Now that's obscene. On Oct 29, 11:19 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I feel your pain. The resume business, surprisingly active during the usually slow summer, has been exceptionally bad over the last six weeks, for me and for others including the very high enders ($1500/pop upward). That said, one OT comment and one OT (= on topic) comment: first, send me (y'all; not just John) solid resume candidates and if I close, you get 20% (my usual fee for mid-level management and professionals is $500 + $100 for cover letter, so that's $100 or $120), which is 5% better than the usual referral fee at this level. Second: I hope to buy a tech deluxe shortly after I mess around with the Motobecane's bar reach and height. AND I will spend at least 10% of the remainder at Riv for each such as above client. So there. Patrick struggling in ABQ Moore On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:46 AM, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote: We've had a super slow week, and yesterday was the slowest day of all. Grant wrote this last night: http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/knothole_post/303 Dave thought of this a little while ago: http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/304 As Grant said, If you plan to buy something anyway and we have ithope to hear from you. Cheers, John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
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On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 4:39 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Contrary to popular belief, it is possible to wear out Schwalbe Marathons. On my Atlantis, are rear will go around 6k miles, in a mix of loaded touring, some off roading general riding. I've never pushed one to the point of seeing what's under the tread but when the center of the chevron pattern is getting faint I think it's earned its keep. A brand new pair of tires at the start of touring season is pretty good insurance against flats. BTW, Riv has stock again on the Marathon Supreme (my favorite). I just got a pair of 40s, looking ahead to next year. They seem to come'n'go, so I grabbed 'em while they had them. Expensive? Sure. Worth it? Absolutely. For a good compromise between rolling niceness and flat resistance, what is the best Marathon tire? I've had Racers -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Two posts on our site
How do they roll? On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 5:49 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: My only experience is with the Marathon Supreme. They are certainly flat resistant and long wearing. I find them quite comfortable at 50 to 60 psi in 35 mm size with no load. I'll bump up 10 psi for loaded touring. In over 2 years and at least 10k miles, I've had 2 flats: one a fine wire, probably from a car or truck tire, and the other a dreaded goat head in Northern Arizona last month. Nothing's perfect. dougP For a good compromise between rolling niceness and flat resistance, what is the best Marathon tire? I've had Racers -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Two posts on our site
Thanks. So they are not dogs. Flat resistant, mega wear and non-dogginess, if not spriteliness -- worth a closer look in case I come up with some extra change for Riv-helping purchases. FWIW, the cheapish Specialized Hemisphere 38s that I now have on the Fargo's 2nd wheelset roll at ~40/50 as well as the 60mm+ Big Apples at say 16/20 and possibly climb a bit better thanks to considerably lower rim and tire and tube weights, but they are not worth the hassle and expense of a second wheelset and tireset. Perhaps the Marathons are. (I compare the two via the computer readout at ordinary cruising efforts in the same -- 67 -- gear on known, flat, paved surfaces, computer calibrated properly for each -- 17-18 is normal absent significant headwind.) Anyone else to chime in on the Marathons 38s/40s? On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 8:22 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: On Oct 29, 4:53 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: How do they roll? -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM I'm not sure how to answer that question. If you mean pedaling effort, they seem pretty similar to the other tires I've used on my Atlantis (Panaracer Pasela T-Serve). My flat land riding gears are in the 60s 70s; I can't push +80 without a tailwind or gravity assist. dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
