Re: [RBW] FS-64 cm Creamsicle Rambouillet 650 conversion, full bike. $1750

[Alan Lavine]

BB height on the Ram with compass 42 tires = 26 cm.
> On Sep 21, 2016, at 9:24 PM, Philip Williamson  
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> I'd call a 2.5mm difference in BB height functionally the same. Would you 
> tell someone they shouldn't run 172.5mm cranks on a Rivendell? 
> 
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Re: [RBW] FS-64 cm Creamsicle Rambouillet 650 conversion, full bike. $1750

[Philip Williamson]

I'd call a 2.5mm difference in BB height functionally the same. Would you tell 
someone they shouldn't run 172.5mm cranks on a Rivendell? 

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Re: [RBW] FS-64 cm Creamsicle Rambouillet 650 conversion, full bike. $1750

[Lungimsam]

Right,
Bb drop and bb height are two different things. I am talking about bb height as 
I measured from floor to bottom of bb shell, though it is traditionally 
measured from floor to bb center

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Re: [RBW] FS-64 cm Creamsicle Rambouillet 650 conversion, full bike. $1750

[alan lavine]

Just to be clear, y'all are talking about BB height.  BB drop is how far 
below a line connecting the 2 hubs the center of the BB is (syntax?)  This 
doesn't change with different tires.

Having said that, is there no interest at all in buying my Ram ?!?  Have to 
make room for my new Yuba Mundo grandkids limousine !

Thanks, Alan

On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 2:52:17 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> I think the blue and subsequent had more clearance than the original 
> orange and cream ones.  In any event, even switching to 42mm Hetres will 
> result in additional bottom bracket drop, because the Rambouillet was 
> originally designed with 28mm tires in mind, and 650Bx42 are ~ 5 mm 
> smaller in diameter. 
>
>
> On 09/21/2016 02:38 PM, Lungimsam wrote: 
> > ttoshi from the forum has a 52 blue that takes a hetre with fenders. 
> I'll have to see if mine will one day. 
> > 
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Re: [RBW] FS-64 cm Creamsicle Rambouillet 650 conversion, full bike. $1750

[Steve Palincsar]

I think the blue and subsequent had more clearance than the original 
orange and cream ones.  In any event, even switching to 42mm Hetres will 
result in additional bottom bracket drop, because the Rambouillet was 
originally designed with 28mm tires in mind, and 650Bx42 are ~ 5 mm 
smaller in diameter.



On 09/21/2016 02:38 PM, Lungimsam wrote:

ttoshi from the forum has a 52 blue that takes a hetre with fenders. I'll have 
to see if mine will one day.



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Re: [RBW] FS-64 cm Creamsicle Rambouillet 650 conversion, full bike. $1750

[Lungimsam]

I think itsa 54cm frame

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Re: [RBW] FS-64 cm Creamsicle Rambouillet 650 conversion, full bike. $1750

[Lungimsam]

Here is ttoshi's:
https://flic.kr/p/dsz6t7

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Re: [RBW] FS-64 cm Creamsicle Rambouillet 650 conversion, full bike. $1750

[Lungimsam]

ttoshi from the forum has a 52 blue that takes a hetre with fenders. I'll have 
to see if mine will one day.

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Re: [RBW] FS-64 cm Creamsicle Rambouillet 650 conversion, full bike. $1750

[allenmichael]

I have a 58 persimmon (orange)/white rambouillet with 650b, 42 red Hetres 
that fit well. I haven't tried a fender yet.

Michael Allen

On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 6:32:46 AM UTC-7, alan lavine wrote:
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> Orange/white 
>
> > On Sep 21, 2016, at 9:26 AM, Steve Palincsar  > wrote: 
> > 
> > On 09/21/2016 09:10 AM, Alan Lavine wrote: 
> >> A 42 x 650b definitely fits a Ram frame, at least on mine it does.  I 
> can measure the BB height if it helps. 
> > 
> > What color is yours? 
> > 
> > 
> >> Alan 
> >>> On Sep 21, 2016, at 8:58 AM, Steve Palincsar  > wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> On 09/21/2016 08:54 AM, Lungimsam wrote: 
>  I measured my bb height on my Rambouillet with 700x28c tires. I will 
> compare it if I try 650b to tune in the closet tire equivalent I can fit, 
> then see if I can keep the same bb height at 650b. 
>  
> >>> This is very unlikely.  A 42mm 650B wheel + tire has about the same 
> outside diameter as a 700Cx23 wheel + tire, and it's even questionable as 
> to whether a 42mm 650B will fit a Rambouillet frame. 
> >>> 
> >>> 
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Re: [RBW] FS-64 cm Creamsicle Rambouillet 650 conversion, full bike. $1750

[Alan Lavine]

Orange/white

> On Sep 21, 2016, at 9:26 AM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
> 
> On 09/21/2016 09:10 AM, Alan Lavine wrote:
>> A 42 x 650b definitely fits a Ram frame, at least on mine it does.  I can 
>> measure the BB height if it helps.
> 
> What color is yours?
> 
> 
>> Alan
>>> On Sep 21, 2016, at 8:58 AM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 09/21/2016 08:54 AM, Lungimsam wrote:
 I measured my bb height on my Rambouillet with 700x28c tires. I will 
 compare it if I try 650b to tune in the closet tire equivalent I can fit, 
 then see if I can keep the same bb height at 650b.
 
>>> This is very unlikely.  A 42mm 650B wheel + tire has about the same outside 
>>> diameter as a 700Cx23 wheel + tire, and it's even questionable as to 
>>> whether a 42mm 650B will fit a Rambouillet frame.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [RBW] FS-64 cm Creamsicle Rambouillet 650 conversion, full bike. $1750

[Steve Palincsar]

On 09/21/2016 09:10 AM, Alan Lavine wrote:

A 42 x 650b definitely fits a Ram frame, at least on mine it does.  I can 
measure the BB height if it helps.


What color is yours?



Alan

On Sep 21, 2016, at 8:58 AM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:


On 09/21/2016 08:54 AM, Lungimsam wrote:

I measured my bb height on my Rambouillet with 700x28c tires. I will compare it 
if I try 650b to tune in the closet tire equivalent I can fit, then see if I 
can keep the same bb height at 650b.


This is very unlikely.  A 42mm 650B wheel + tire has about the same outside 
diameter as a 700Cx23 wheel + tire, and it's even questionable as to whether a 
42mm 650B will fit a Rambouillet frame.




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Re: [RBW] FS-64 cm Creamsicle Rambouillet 650 conversion, full bike. $1750

[Alan Lavine]

A 42 x 650b definitely fits a Ram frame, at least on mine it does.  I can 
measure the BB height if it helps.
Alan
> On Sep 21, 2016, at 8:58 AM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 09/21/2016 08:54 AM, Lungimsam wrote:
>> I measured my bb height on my Rambouillet with 700x28c tires. I will compare 
>> it if I try 650b to tune in the closet tire equivalent I can fit, then see 
>> if I can keep the same bb height at 650b.
>> 
> 
> This is very unlikely.  A 42mm 650B wheel + tire has about the same outside 
> diameter as a 700Cx23 wheel + tire, and it's even questionable as to whether 
> a 42mm 650B will fit a Rambouillet frame.
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Re: [RBW] FS-64 cm Creamsicle Rambouillet 650 conversion, full bike. $1750

[Steve Palincsar]

On 09/21/2016 08:54 AM, Lungimsam wrote:

I measured my bb height on my Rambouillet with 700x28c tires. I will compare it 
if I try 650b to tune in the closet tire equivalent I can fit, then see if I 
can keep the same bb height at 650b.



This is very unlikely.  A 42mm 650B wheel + tire has about the same 
outside diameter as a 700Cx23 wheel + tire, and it's even questionable 
as to whether a 42mm 650B will fit a Rambouillet frame.


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Re: [RBW] FS-64 cm Creamsicle Rambouillet 650 conversion, full bike. $1750

[Lungimsam]

I measured my bb height on my Rambouillet with 700x28c tires. I will compare it 
if I try 650b to tune in the closet tire equivalent I can fit, then see if I 
can keep the same bb height at 650b.

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Re: [RBW] FS-64 cm Creamsicle Rambouillet 650 conversion, full bike. $1750

[alan lavine]

Price bump: $1650-

Alan

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> Hi Calvin,
> I have to admit I never pay attention to BB drop, as I don't pedal through 
> turns. Never had a pedal strike.
> Best,
> Alan
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> On Sep 20, 2016, at 6:56 PM, Calvin Rocchio  
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> How has the BB drop been on this? Have pedal strikes been an issue? 
>
> On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 8:38:40 AM UTC-7, alan lavine wrote:
>>
>> Also,if you think the price is not right, let me know and we'll talk.
>>
>> On Monday, September 19, 2016 at 9:13:47 PM UTC-4, alan lavine wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry, forgot that!  Compass Babyshoe Pass 650x42. 
>>> Alan 
>>> > On Sep 19, 2016, at 9:09 PM, Daniel Jackson  
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Re: [RBW] FS-64 cm Creamsicle Rambouillet 650 conversion, full bike. $1750

[Alan LaVine]

Hi Calvin,
I have to admit I never pay attention to BB drop, as I don't pedal through 
turns. Never had a pedal strike.
Best,
Alan

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 20, 2016, at 6:56 PM, Calvin Rocchio  wrote:
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> How has the BB drop been on this? Have pedal strikes been an issue? 
> 
>> On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 8:38:40 AM UTC-7, alan lavine wrote:
>> Also,if you think the price is not right, let me know and we'll talk.
>> 
>>> On Monday, September 19, 2016 at 9:13:47 PM UTC-4, alan lavine wrote:
>>> Sorry, forgot that!  Compass Babyshoe Pass 650x42. 
>>> Alan 
>>> > On Sep 19, 2016, at 9:09 PM, Daniel Jackson  
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>>> > 
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Re: [RBW] FS-64 cm Creamsicle Rambouillet 650 conversion, full bike. $1750

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How has the BB drop been on this? Have pedal strikes been an issue? 

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>> Sorry, forgot that!  Compass Babyshoe Pass 650x42. 
>> Alan 
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Re: [RBW] FS-64 cm Creamsicle Rambouillet 650 conversion, full bike. $1750

[alan lavine]

Also,if you think the price is not right, let me know and we'll talk.

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Re: [RBW] FS-64 cm Creamsicle Rambouillet 650 conversion, full bike. $1750

[Alan Lavine]

Sorry, forgot that!  Compass Babyshoe Pass 650x42.
Alan
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