Re: [RBW] Is this an insane idea?

2018-06-07 Thread Eric Karnes
Thanks!

On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 8:46:20 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> I found it! RR36, this link is from Cyclofiend's Riv page. I can't believe 
> I remembered what derailer he used correctly ;-)
>
> http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/rbw/rr36_pg27.jpg
>

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Re: [RBW] Is this an insane idea?

2018-06-07 Thread Joe Bernard
This is the thingey you need to hang the derailer/tensioner..Jim used a 
derailer that had one built in. I have one around here somewhere..I'll send it 
to you if I find it soon. 

https://harriscyclery.net/m/product/sunrace-rear-derailleur-adaptor-claw-963.htm

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Re: [RBW] Is this an insane idea?

2018-06-07 Thread Joe Bernard
I found it! RR36, this link is from Cyclofiend's Riv page. I can't believe I 
remembered what derailer he used correctly ;-)

http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/rbw/rr36_pg27.jpg

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Re: [RBW] Is this an insane idea?

2018-06-07 Thread Max S
What you really want is a SRAM wireless shifting implemented in an IGH! 

- Max "unplugged" in A2 


On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 6:30:38 PM UTC-4, Eric Karnes wrote:
>
> This is also intriguing. I have a wide low on there already, am a lazy 
> shifter, and really only need a main and granny for most riding.
>
> Anyone know the RR number so I can see the detail of James's build?
>
> Eric
>
> On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 2:25:58 AM UTC-4, James Warren wrote:
>>
>>
>> Not insane at all. I’m the somebody, and it worked well. 
>>
>> I switched it to Alfine 11 six years later, but I don’t like that as 
>> much, and one of these months, I’m going to bring the green QB back to its 
>> front-shifting glory. 
>>
>> -Jim W. 
>>
>>
>> > On Jun 6, 2018, at 7:53 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote: 
>> > 
>> > Somebody in an old Reader put a derailer claw on his QB and attached a 
>> beater Shimano 200GS derailer, which then allowed him to use a wide-low 
>> 2-speed crank. This is similar to the setup on my Pashley Clubman: I use a 
>> Paul Melvin tensioner, 40-26 cranks and a front derailer. You could do this 
>> with a triple crank, too, which would give you a pretty decent gear range 
>> without modifying the frame. You'll need a cable stop for the front shifter 
>> cable, too..Riv sells them. 
>> > 
>> > So: Rear derailer claw, old rd or singleator, double or triple cranks, 
>> front derailer, front shifter and cable stop.   
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Re: [RBW] Is this an insane idea?

2018-06-07 Thread Eric Karnes
This is also intriguing. I have a wide low on there already, am a lazy 
shifter, and really only need a main and granny for most riding.

Anyone know the RR number so I can see the detail of James's build?

Eric

On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 2:25:58 AM UTC-4, James Warren wrote:
>
>
> Not insane at all. I’m the somebody, and it worked well. 
>
> I switched it to Alfine 11 six years later, but I don’t like that as much, 
> and one of these months, I’m going to bring the green QB back to its 
> front-shifting glory. 
>
> -Jim W. 
>
>
> > On Jun 6, 2018, at 7:53 PM, Joe Bernard > 
> wrote: 
> > 
> > Somebody in an old Reader put a derailer claw on his QB and attached a 
> beater Shimano 200GS derailer, which then allowed him to use a wide-low 
> 2-speed crank. This is similar to the setup on my Pashley Clubman: I use a 
> Paul Melvin tensioner, 40-26 cranks and a front derailer. You could do this 
> with a triple crank, too, which would give you a pretty decent gear range 
> without modifying the frame. You'll need a cable stop for the front shifter 
> cable, too..Riv sells them. 
> > 
> > So: Rear derailer claw, old rd or singleator, double or triple cranks, 
> front derailer, front shifter and cable stop.   
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Re: [RBW] Is this an insane idea?

2018-06-06 Thread James Warren


Not insane at all. I’m the somebody, and it worked well.

I switched it to Alfine 11 six years later, but I don’t like that as much, and 
one of these months, I’m going to bring the green QB back to its front-shifting 
glory.

-Jim W.


> On Jun 6, 2018, at 7:53 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> Somebody in an old Reader put a derailer claw on his QB and attached a beater 
> Shimano 200GS derailer, which then allowed him to use a wide-low 2-speed 
> crank. This is similar to the setup on my Pashley Clubman: I use a Paul 
> Melvin tensioner, 40-26 cranks and a front derailer. You could do this with a 
> triple crank, too, which would give you a pretty decent gear range without 
> modifying the frame. You'll need a cable stop for the front shifter cable, 
> too..Riv sells them. 
> 
> So: Rear derailer claw, old rd or singleator, double or triple cranks, front 
> derailer, front shifter and cable stop.  
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Re: [RBW] Is this an insane idea?

2018-06-06 Thread Patrick Moore
Someone makes cassette hubs for 120 mm OL rear ends, on which you can fit
(I think) 5 of 7 7-speed cogs, 6 of 8, and so forth. Or, get an old
freewheel hub and buy one of the never-wil-disappear 5 speed freewheels
floating around.

In an early RR, Grant described Lon Haldeman's custom Riv Road, which had a
multiple cog rear cluster than Haldeman shifted by hand -- ie, no
derailleur or shifter.

On my '99 fixie Riv Road custom, I have a 15 t cruising gear on 1 side
(76") and a 17/19 Dingle on the other (67" and 60"). Not low enough for
serious off road, but with the SOs long "dropouts" you could get a wider
spread.

It would seem regrettable to permanently alter a bike you like so much in
its original form.

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 5:54 PM, Eric Karnes  wrote:

> So, I've been pondering something lately...
>
> As I've mentioned a number of times in various discussions here, I'm
> completely enamored with my SimpleOne. It's the best bike I've ever ridden.
> But I lack the legs of Deacon and require gears for some of longer
> mixed-terrain rides I do (although I'm seriously interested in learning
> more about his floor living ideas...but I digress). Recently, I've been
> toying with the idea of tracking down another SO or Quickbeam and having a
> frame builder convert the track ends to run-of-the-mill dropouts and spread
> the rear end to accommodate the 130mm cassette wheels I already own.
>
> Is this idea insane? Blasphemous? Would it be possible (or advisable) to
> spread the rear that far? Would it make more sense to just have a custom
> built? I can't really afford $3500 for a Riv custom and don't know the
> tubing specs (which I imagine are as important as geometry). And even if
> Riv were willing to divulge those details, it would be unethical to get
> that info and then have someone execute Grant's exact design for cheaper.
>
> Any thoughts to help me work through this first-world conundrum?
>
> Eric
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